/r/progun
This is a place for discussion and debate of Second Amendment related topics, with a Pro-2A emphasis.
Civil debate is welcome and encouraged. Even if you're completely opposed to 2A, you're welcome to share your thoughts here, as long as you maintain civility.
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State/regional subreddits
Other regional/international gun subreddits
/r/pdxgunnuts (OR) | /r/PhillyGuns (PA) |
/r/TxGuns (TX) | /r/austinguns (TX) |
/r/DFWGuns (TX) | /r/HoustonGuns (TX) |
/r/SanAntonioGuns (TX) | /r/BayAreaGunMeetups (CA) |
/r/northeastguns | /r/CanadaGuns |
/r/SwissGuns | /r/aussieshooters |
/r/gunmeetups |
/r/progun
I've read some extreme views regarding the 2A on Reddit such as anyone should be able to walk into any store and buy any firearm, no questions asked, and it doesn't matter if you're entering private property which the owner has requested (or demanded) that you don't carry a weapon on their property, then tough titty, you're going to do it anyway. And I've heard people saying versions of this in real life as well.
I went to a gun show this past weekend and noticed that here, of all places, where the 2A is supposedly more cherished that anywhere else in society, every person there allowed a trigger guard to be put on their firearms. Which greatly infringed people's right to bear arms. With no questions asked and without one single person protesting the policy. I just thought it was funny that the gunniest gun venue in existence is the one place people are complaining about having their right to bear arms being infringed.
I know it’s still very early in the term, but I wager reciprocity and national constitutional carry aren’t happening?
I live in MA and, as a lot of you already know, our governor passed a bill that is either on par or worse with the laws we are seeing in CA. After more than 90,000 citizens signed a petition to have the law put up for referendum and suspended until the next election, the governor added an emergency preamble to the law and had it enacted immediately. Seeing things like this happen make me extremely pessimistic about the whole state of our 2A fight. Does anyone see any hope for our gun laws improving ever—in general, as I’m pretty sure MA is cooked—or are our politicians just going to keep incrementally stripping us of our rights indefinitely?
It seems that every now and then on Reddit I run across folks who are very knowledgeable in how real science and research actually work and they often end up becoming very helpful. The gun control sub and this guy who occasionally used to debunk all our arguments(maniac something)had some pretty strong arguments and tons of research backing them up. Basically anything they commented had no intelligent response. So that brings me to the main point, what can I use to rest assured that my love of guns does not mean I must be apathetic and careless about innocent lives that are lost? Who amongst you has seen their arguments in depth or was on their side at one point and changed your mind? Thanks.
I have flown with guns before, and I'm just curious about the process in Las Vegas.
thx
Trump is within his power to craft an executive order declaring that the taxation and licensing of any right is, by its very nature, unconstitutional, and that precedent exists with the 24th Amendment, which banned poll taxes, and in the First Amendment, which would find the licensing of churches antithetical to the Constitution.
The order would then direct the ATF to create a law to submit to Congress to repeal the NFA and GCA and ban states from requiring any license, permit, background check, or fee or from collecting any tax on any activity, business, or item associated with any protected right.
i am not here to attack anybody over their beliefs. I am someone who personally enjoys shooting firearms and believes in the 2nd amendment, however dont know how i feel about giving people the right to own any firearm they might want. below are some questions/counters i have that i would like to be answered.
i understand there is inherent bias in asking a pro-2a subreddit to help me understand how i feel on 2a points, im well aware. i still thought this subreddit would be a good resource to get the perspectives of people who are in favor of pro 2a
edit: after reading some replies (the insightful ones, at least) im starting to realize some of my points are coming from a more utopian view of society and an inherent assumption that people are good.
I don't know if any of you who frequent this sub are familiar with ASAP Rocky the rapper (and Rihanna's boyfriend/baby daddy), but the dude is on trial for assault with a semiautomatic weapon and is facing 24 years in the slammer. He's on video brandishing the gun at the victim and shooting toward the victim after they got into a scuffle. Get this, his defense attorney is the same dude that repped Trump (Joe Tacopina) in the Stormy Daniels trial and the E. Jean Carroll civil case. Tacopina's argument for Rocky is that Rocky carries a prop/fake gun for protection and fired two shots as a warning. Rocky is licensed to carry and has several registered real firearms police found when they raided his house.
Anyway I don't think I've ever met someone permitted to carry who'd choose a fake gun over a real one for protection purposes. I'm no lawyer but that defense seems idiotic and like it wouldn't go over well with the jury. To make matters worse, one of the jurors is a firearms instructor.
I'm a big fan of Rocky's but idk this seems like a tough one to sell. I'm following the trial intently and hoping for the best.
Have you ever met someone who carried a fake gun for protection even though they legally could carry a real one?
Given how 2A advocacy organizations tend to focus on guns, this is a really bad strategy since it makes their opponents easy to stereotype their supporters as white guy crazy gun nuts and in turn, makes us easy to divide and conquer . We need to make sure that this strategy of theirs would be difficult to pull off and I say we need to treat any attack on the right to keep and bear any arms whether if it's a gun or a blade or any other weapon (martial arts and the human fist included) as an attack on the 2nd Amendment as a whole. This means that gun rights advocacy organizations like the NRA and the GOA should work hand in hand with martial artists and blade collectors to ensure that the 2A is protected and clawed back to where it should be . Let it be a hornet's nest where kicking the right to keep and bear arms (such as guns and other weapons) will have 2A advocacy organizations and people swarming over those who want the 2A crippled.
Moreover, with the changing demographics of gun owners (diluting the stereotypical white guy gun owner) , we need to welcome them on-board and use them in arguments for gun owners against gun grabbers.
Yeah, think of the women and children? Well, given how women ( and children) are weaker than men, they need to have an equalizer in the 2A such as access to a blade* or even best still, a gun to equalize the situation if they are attacked.
But guns affect minorities and LGBTQ+s! Then they should have access to the full might of the 2A's acknowledgement of the right to bear arms to prevent genocides from happening.
What about those crazy mass shooters? Throw the entire penal code at them if they survive and don't even publish their names.
All 2A advocate organizations need to change their view of the 2A as just guns and fight for the acknowledgement of the right to keep and bear arms, no matter what types of arms they are.
PS: I think an end goal for 2A advocates should be that a kid can drop in to buy a dory*, dao* or an XM7 (giggle switch and all) over the counter at Macy's depending on his/her/whatever pronoun they choose' choice.
*There's a reason why naginatas are considered a woman's weapon in feudal Japan. Biology plays a part in that with biological females being shorter and at a reach disadvantage compared to a biological male, so polearms are a equalizer.
*Greek hoplite spear
*Chinese single edged sword.