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Thrift store carry?

I tried to search for this question but didn’t see anything. I know places of worship are generally off-limits for concealed carry. But has anyone ran into issues carrying into thrift store that’s owned and operated by a church?

The one we go most often shares a name with the church. It’s not in the same building—it’s across the street on a different lot. The others we like are clearly affiliated with a church but don’t share a name and aren’t really close to the church (as far as I can tell).

3 Comments
2024/10/05
14:51 UTC

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Firearms Lessons

Howdy ya'll,

I have a buddy in the BR/NOLA area looking to get a little more training for pistol and rifle shooting. He's already got his CC and is fairly familiar with firearms but he has yet to take any basic/intermediate/advanced rifle or pistol courses and certainly hasn't taken any more "tactical" oriented courses. I know my neck of the woods here in Texas better and despite that he's willing to travel, LA should have its fair share of excellent firearms training courses. Do any of ya'll have recommendations on specific ranges/courses/programs in the BR/NOLA area or large Louisiana?

3 Comments
2024/09/12
21:27 UTC

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US v. Comeaux: Appellant's Opening Brief

Opening brief here. Despite being procedurally behind US v. Peterson, this case actually uses Bruen.

Comeaux, whose rap sheet only consists of an instance of DUI, got arrested for possessing 5 homemade suppressors. What led to this arrest was that on May 31, 2022, the police went to Comeaux's home because a neighbor reported that Comeaux discharged a gun in a threatening manner, which the latter admitted, only to scare the neighbors who have been harassing him. Comeaux has reported to the police that his neighbors had repeatedly trespassed his property, had killed his grass with weed killer, and had put cooking oil in his equipment. He also reported that he felt his firearms were "the only self-defense he had against his neighbors."

After Comeaux admitted to firing the shot, the police executed a search warrant and seized his firearm collection with firearm accessories and fabrication tools. His 5 silences were included in the seized property.

Comeaux filed a MTD challenging 26 USC §§ 5861(d) (possessing NFA items not registered to the possessor, which is the subject of appeal) and 5861(i) (possessing unserialized NFA items), but the district judge David C. Joseph, who got appointed by Trump, denied the motion to dismiss on 2A grounds by saying that they are "dangerous and unusual" because of the potential criminal misuse due to the suppressor's features, and the historical legislative record on the state level that reflects the public's negative perception of suppressors after they were patented in 1908. Judge Joseph erred on two reasons:

a. He did not undergo the full Bruen analysis. He skipped over the text and didn't use the historical analysis on why suppressors were historically considered unusual (in reality, per the American Suppressor Association, there are 3.15 million suppressors in circulation). Rather, he used interest balancing to point out the potential criminal misuse of suppressors due to their features to conclude that they are "unusual."

b. While it is true that the suppressors got regulated quite quickly on state level besides the federal level when the suppressors came out in the early 1900s, those regulations came way later after 1791. See Defendant's Opposition to Motion to Dismiss.

Comeaux pled conditionally guilty and filed an appeal raising two questions:

  1. Is 26 U.S.C. § 5861(d), which prohibits the personal possession of silencers that are not registered with the Treasury, facially unconstitutional under the Second Amendment?
  2. Is 26 U.S.C. § 5861(d), which prohibits the personal possession of silencers that are not registered with the Treasury, unconstitutional as applied to a gun collector who made five homemade silencers to protect his hearing and make his self-defense actions more effective and who only possessed those silencers in his rural personal residence? (note that this is the alternate route to the first)

In his appeal, Comeaux says that silencers are "arms" because per US v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174, "arms" included the "proper accoutrements" or related items and accessories like "gun-cleaning equipment." Comeaux also uses the textual definition of the arm to bolster his statement that one can take a silencer “into his hands” and can use the instrument in “wrath to strike another.” He also says that silencers are "necessary to use ... weapons effectively" because they can mitigate hearing loss, as pointed by Kolbe I and Mock II in the latter's concurring opinion.

Alternatively, silencers are implicitly protected, with the hearing loss mitigation being one reason.

In regards to the historical inquiry, Comeaux points out to the dearth of evidence and information regarding silencer use in the congressional record regarding the NFA. He also points out that firearm registration didn't appear until 1911, in which the Sullivan Act was the first registration law, and that only 11 out of 48 states in 1934 had registration statutes. In regards to the tax, he points out that there are no founding laws permanently disarming individuals who failed to register and pay a tax on a weapon. Though not mentioned, while there were arms-related taxes, those were scant during the 19th century. Finally, he points out that the government's proffering of historical laws that regulated firearms commerce doesn't work because § 5861(d) prohibits one from acquiring or possessing suppressors, not selling them.

Overall, a good brief. What could have been better is that in the explicit protection (or implicit), a law regulating or even banning suppressors is respectively a ban or regulation on suppressed firearms, and perhaps not rely on the "necessary" requirement.

0 Comments
2024/09/07
06:32 UTC

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FPC needs 2 more people from Louisiana

Your Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) Legal Action Team is urgently looking for qualified FPC members and supporters in Louisiana who wish to sue the government and help us defeat an unconstitutional law.

But we're running out of time and need to find 2 more potential plaintiffs ASAP!

For this lawsuit, we are looking for the following:

Individuals:

  • Location: Resides in Louisiana, specifically one of the following parishes: Acadia, Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Benville, Bosser, Caddo, Calcasieu, Caldwell, Cameron, Claiborne, Concordia, DeSoto, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Iberia, Jackson, Jefferson Davis, La Salle, Lafayette, Lincoln, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Landry, St. Martin, St. Mary, Tensas, Union, Vermilion, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, Winn.

  • Age: 18-19

  • Issue(s): Would apply for a carry permit in LA but can't because of age-based restrictions and travels within 1000 feet of the grounds of any public, parochial or private elementary or secondary school.

Background: Legally eligible to possess and acquire firearms; no criminal or serious mental health history.

Sign up here: https://forms.firearmspolicy.org/landing/2024-1019-la-18-20-carry

0 Comments
2024/08/14
23:20 UTC

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How to go about buying a handgun in a private sale

Hi yall! I, 19f am aware of the laws stating that I can only aquire a handgun if it is bought for me (wont happen with my liberal family) or if I get it through a private sale. I have no Idea how I would set up or find a trustworthy person to buy from, arm dealers from film with guns displayed in suitcases in the trunks of their cars come to mind lol. New Orleans is not safe and im tired of feeling defenseless. I have shot guns in the past, am aware of safety rules and will practice regularly. I plan on being a responsible gun owner.

4 Comments
2024/07/05
02:36 UTC

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Permitless Carry Laws for Non Residents

Visiting from out of town this weekend

Can non residents legally conceal carry with the new law going into effect in 5 minutes?

2 Comments
2024/07/04
04:55 UTC

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Conceal carry law questions

I’m sure everybody has seen the new law about to go into effect tomorrow (7/4/24).

This law gives people ages 18+ the ability to conceal carry.

But what about actually purchasing a handgun? Will it be possible for those age 18+ to purchase a handgun ?

I’m not too knowledgeable on guns but I’d like to be able to practice my newly given right and take safety courses, etc.

2 Comments
2024/07/03
23:43 UTC

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Gunsmith recommendations

Hey, good evening. I have a 1911 and just installed a WC extended slide stop. Unfortunately now the slide rarely locks back when the mag is empty. I'm looking for someone to fit it to the gun so that it locks the slide. I'm in New Orleans but willing to travel.

5 Comments
2024/04/09
01:32 UTC

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Post-constitutional carry CCW permit?

Saw the following posted on a Louisiana state Rep's Facebook: https://countrywideconcealed.com/louisiana/registration?c=20062&clck=333437579&s1=1061&s2=&s3=&s4=&s5=

My interpretation is now that Constitutional carry has passed, they have made it much easier to take the course previously required for CCW permit applications, and that this site is providing that course. I watched the video and took a 10 question quiz. I now have the option of purchasing a certificate of completion from them for $88. Does anyone know if this training certificate can now be submitted to Louisiana State Police in order to receive a CCW permit? Despite Constitutional carry, I would be interested in having the permit anyway, for reciprocity, etc.

2 Comments
2024/04/07
18:30 UTC

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Louisiana Constitutional Carry Guide and PSA

I am the Vice President of the Louisiana Shooting Association (LSA), as well as an Attorney and Concealed Carry Instructor in Baton Rouge. The LSA and I have worked with the legislature on Constitutional Carry for years now, and since it was signed yesterday, I wanted to make this post as a public service announcement to provide useful information for anyone who may wish to take advantage of this new law.

I will try to answer any questions I can. I would personally prefer if this stays on topic rather than descend into a political debate, however, I will try not to simply ignore any good-faith political questions and discussion, time permitting. This is not meant to convince anyone to carry a gun or not, nor is it meant to persuade anyone to either side. Rather, this is intended as a guide to help keep people in compliance with the law, as it is a bit complicated.

Also, it is important that I include this disclaimer: though I am an attorney, nothing in this post constitutes official legal advice and is for educational purposes only. Reading this post does not form any attorney-client relationship, and you assume full, personal responsibility for being in compliance with any relevant law.

First, some background information. Louisiana is now the 28th state to enact a form of Constitutional Carry legislation, so really this is no longer new and cutting edge. It has been the majority of the country for a few years now. Further, Louisiana has always been a “Permitless Carry” state in a sense, as permitless open carry for anyone 18 or older has always been legal since the State’s inception in 1812. It is constitutionally protected in Louisiana, and has been even before our 2012 Amendment to Article 1, Section 11 of the State Constitution. See State v. Bias, 37 La.Ann 259 (La. 1885). The first iteration of our current Concealed Handgun Permit statute came about in 1996, and has been modified over the years to change the regime slightly here and there. So people carrying guns open and concealed is nothing new.

I provide this background information for two reasons – one, it will help make sense of some of the legal issues that regulate the area under the new law. Second, to hopefully ease the concerns of some people out there who may not understand this area of law well. As I hope to show below, this change to the law is not all THAT substantial relative to what has been the status quo in Louisiana for a long time. Permitless open carry has always been the law, but concealed carry is by far the more socially acceptable and generally desired method, both from a social and practical standpoint. In a sense, this just modernizes what has always been.

1. What does the law do?

First things first, the new law does not go into effect until July 4, 2024. DO NOT CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN WITHOUT A PERMIT PRIOR TO THIS DATE.

In short, the current law now allows anyone who could have legally open carried with no permit to legally carry concealed with no permit. However, anyone carrying concealed with no permit still has all the same duties and restrictions of people carrying with permits on top of what they would if they were open carrying.

What that means is that, if you are 18 or older and can legally be in possession of a handgun, you can carry that handgun concealed on your person. However, you must abide by all the rules and restrictions that have been in place both for open carry AND for permitted concealed carry, as follows:

A. You cannot carry under the influence of alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance (including prescription drugs). For the purposes of concealed carry, the maximum blood alcohol concentration allowable is 0.05, lower than for driving. (La R.S. 40:1379.3 I(1))

B. If a law enforcement officer approaches you in an official manner or with an official purpose, you must inform the officer that you are carrying a concealed handgun, and, if the officer chooses to, you must submit to a pat down and be temporarily disarmed for the duration of the encounter. (La R.S. 40:1379.3 I(2))

C. You cannot carry a concealed handgun in any of the following prohibited locations from the Concealed Handgun Statute (La R.S. 40:1379.3 M, N, and O):

(1) A law enforcement office, station, or building.

(2) A detention facility, prison, or jail.

(3) A courthouse or courtroom, provided that a judge may carry such a weapon in his own courtroom.

(4) A polling place.

(5) A municipal building or other public building or structure, only if the building or structure is utilized as the meeting place of the governing authority of a political subdivision.

(6) The state capitol building.

(7) Any portion of an airport facility where the carrying of firearms is prohibited under federal law, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, if the firearm is encased for shipment, for the purpose of checking such firearm as lawful baggage.

(8) Any church, synagogue, mosque, or other similar place of worship, unless authorized by the person who has authority over the administration of the church, synagogue, mosque, or other similar place of worship.

(9) A parade or demonstration for which a permit is issued by a governmental entity.

(10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises (in short, a bar and some other places)

(11) Any school, school campus, or school bus as defined in R.S. 14:95.6.

(12) in the private residence of any person without first receiving their permission.

(13) any other place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by the lawful custodian of the property (i.e., posted “no guns” signs).

D. You also cannot carry in the following places which are prohibited for open carry, but not for permitted carriers, as will be discussed in the next section:

(1) Within 1000 feet of any school (a “school zone”) (La R.S. 14:95.2 and 95.6)

(2) in ANY place that sells alcohol for consumption on the premises (including restaurants). (La R.S. 14:95.5)

Carrying in violation of any of the above is still a crime.

2. Are there still permits, and why would I get one?

A careful reading of the above will show that getting a concealed handgun permit is still necessary if you intend to carry concealed regularly and in most places. It is EXTREMELY critical to point out that those two places in section D above do NOT apply to concealed handgun permits.

If you have a permit, you can legally be within 1000 feet of a school. This is both a state AND a federal law, and the only exception to both is for permits issued by the state. Violation of this is also the only prohibited location that is a felony. You can check maps for most cities to show where the school zones are, and a quick glance will show you that a huge amount of most cities is included in these zones. Here is the map of East Baton Rouge Parish, for example: https://data.brla.gov/Public-Safety/School-Gun-Free-Zone/rft4-hjp5

Second, the blanket prohibition on carrying firearms in alcoholic beverage outlets (14:95.5) has an exception for permit holders allowing them to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. So you have to have a permit to be in most restaurants, as most restaurants serve alcohol.

Obviously, if you intend to carry a concealed handgun with any regularity, you will still need a permit if only for the restriction on carrying in these two places. You will almost certainly go eat at a restaurant that serves alcohol, and it would be VERY difficult to manage to avoid these school zones at all times.

Please note that having a firearm in your vehicle is an exception to the school zone law as well, so you can drive through the school zone, or otherwise legally leave your gun in your car if necessary. However, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU LEAVE A FIREAM IN YOUR VEHICLE THAT IS NOT LOCKED IN SOME KIND OF SECURE CONTAINER. This is how most stolen guns are stolen, and they make many different kinds of vehicle safes. Even a simple one will stop most smash-and-grab vehicle burglaries.

Finally, having a permit grants you concealed carry reciprocity with most other states. While 27 other states (which we have reciprocity with) also have permitless carry, there are some that don’t, and some of these states may also have similar laws to ours where permit holders have greater rights.

So, in short, constitutional carry is great for people who may wish to carry a concealed handgun on a limited basis, only to certain places where it is lawful to do so. It also clarifies a long-standing question of law as to whether it is legal to carry a concealed handgun on your own private property with no permit (your private property is also exempt from the gun free school zones). It may also be good for people who wish to experiment with concealed carry to decide if they wish to pursue getting a permit to carry with greater regularity. Permits are expensive (about $300 every five years) which significantly disadvantages people of limited means, who often have the highest need for self-defense. Finally, it is my hope that it means fewer guns are left in cars, as now people will be able to keep the gun on them more often, where it is much less likely to be stolen.

As a final thought, while training is not mandatory for the new permitless carry law, training is ALWAYS advisable. If you've read this far, you've seen just how much there is to know about this to stay in compliance with the law. There's also a lot to know about how to carry a concealed handgun effectively, safely, and comfortably, in addition to shooting skills themselves.

I’m sure there are questions people have that I have left out here, and I will try to answer all that I can.

If you support these legislative efforts and victories, and would like to help us in our continued efforts to clarify and improve Louisiana’s concealed carry and other gun laws, please consider joining the Louisiana Shooting Association, as we are always on the forefront of these efforts.

https://louisianashooting.com/

25 Comments
2024/03/06
20:02 UTC

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Governor Jeff Landry calls special session on crime, set to begin Feb. 19

https://www.wbrz.com/news/governor-jeff-landry-calls-special-session-on-crime-set-to-begin-feb-19

BATON ROUGE - Governor Jeff Landry issued his plans for a special session to take place from February 19 to March 6 in attempt to address crime.

Among the many items to be addressed include restricting parole eligibility, expanding criteria for revoking parole and probation, increasing penalties for carjacking, granting immunity from liability based on certain criteria for peace officers, allowing concealed carrying of weapons without a permit to certain people, and legislating with regard to the prosecution of third-degree rape.

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2024/02/08
22:24 UTC

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Selling Polymer 80?

I have an AR12 I’m going to bring to a Gunshop and get a couple hundred bucks for. I also have one of those Polymer80’s and a jig. From what I’ve read as long as it isn’t drilled out and completed it isn’t a firearm. Mine has sat in a box since 2021 undrilled and un molested. Before I try to bring it somewhere I was interested in seeing the legality of selling it to a shop. I think a private sale would probably be quicker but I don’t know if it is legal. Any input? Would I have to serialize it even though it’s just a chunk of polymer still?

2 Comments
2024/01/27
03:17 UTC

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New LA CHP Update: Digital Fingerprinting Throughout LA for the CHP

I wanted to give everyone a heads-up that we have finally received what was promised over 10 years ago. Now when applying for the LA CHP, you will be able to get fingerprinted locally with identogo locations and it will be digitally submitted along with your online application. There is no longer a need to go to the headquarters in Baton Rouge to be fingerprinted in person.

Here is the notification from the LSP to instructors:

LSP has rolled out a new statewide applicant processing solution called "LAPS." This system makes it easier for applicants who need fingerprints to obtain them electronically close to their residence. This function is now available for CHP applicants, and we have already noticed a good bit of applicants utilizing this process.

Upon applying online, applicants will receive an email with instructions to schedule a fingerprint appointment in the LAPS system. Those who choose to submit paper applications can still utilize this process as well, and are encouraged to do so rather than sending us fingerprint cards. To schedule an appointment near their residence, applicants can visit the LAPS website at https://unroll.identogo.com/ and enter one of the below codes in the "Service Code" box:

27KBQ3 if you have lived in LA 15 years or more, or

27KBNN if you have lived in LA less than 15 years

We believe this process will make submitting fingerprints easier for applicants, as well as help reduce the large amount of print cards we receive in our office. As always, please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you!

As for as wait times, they have been very efficient over the last year. Most of my students receive the permit in about 2-3 weeks. This could make it 1-2 weeks.

Also, after receiving the approval email, you will likely find that the LA Wallet app will be updated to include your digital permit. Not familiar with the app? I have a video talking about it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9r2HX1NIzO

Enjoy!

6 Comments
2024/01/09
19:08 UTC

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LA concealed carry permit

Just paid for my permit, does that mean I’ve been approved and should expect it soon? TIA

5 Comments
2023/11/20
04:06 UTC

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Landry won - Constitutional Carry finally??

Hopefully since Landry won we will finally get constitutional carry. He announced last month that he would:

"Republican Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said Wednesday he will get constitutional carry gun legislation passed in the state if he is elected governor in November."

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jeff-landry-louisiana-gun-rights/2023/09/20/id/1135290/

28 Comments
2023/10/15
12:10 UTC

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Gun ranges in the nola area

Hey guys , I just wanted to ask for range recommendations. It seems like every range I can find either requires you to be 21 to shoot or doesn't allow rifle calibers. I bought a new AR recently and can't find a place to shoot it. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated

7 Comments
2023/10/06
21:43 UTC

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conceal carry application question.

So i have a question. Lived in Louisiana for a year, moved from arkansas and grew up in CT. I have had my conceal carry in both CT and AR with no issues. I want my conceal carry down here since i now live here and will be here most likely for a very long time. Heres the issue, i have had a few arrests when i was in college years and years ago, like 15yrs ago ( a dui which was expunged and dismissed) and before that when i was a minor a pot charge, same deal. Never in the past two states i have lived in have i had to disclose these since they were both dismissed and expunged from the record. I come here and find out question G says "If you have ever been arrested, charged, detained, indicted, or summoned for any criminal offense or violation, EVEN THOSE CHARGES WHICH YOU BELIEVE TO HAVE BEEN DROPPED, DISMISSED, NOLLE PROS, EXPUNGED, etc ., you must answer “YES” to the arrest questions (Question #7) and submit certified true copies of the final court disposition of the case with your application". Now in CT, arguably the most communist state, this was not an issue and neither was it in arkansas. Upon trying to obtain copies of these, I come to find out the records have been cleared as they don't keep these records on file for more than 10 years. I called the Superior court and sent a notarized letter with photo id asking, and they cant find any records for these. What should i do. My past lawyer also has no copies of these on hand as he only keeps records for 7yrs. should i answer no like i did in CT and AR and hope for the best. I really want my CC this countries spiraling out of control and i miss carrying my firearm concealed.

Side note: WTF is this backwards state.

12 Comments
2023/09/20
23:35 UTC

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