Was looking to private sale a handgun off a buddy, but someone told me the rules recently changed. Are they still the same as before, just go get one at the sheriffs office?

On a private sale between a friend and I do I have to fill in anything for the FFL Number, NICS Transaction Number, and the NICS Approval Date? I don’t have a license to sell but I don’t believe I need one to do a private transaction.

Has anyone dealed with Livingston county sheriffs office for getting their license and if so, was it reasonably timed or did it take forever to do so. Taking the course next Tuesday and just want to know what to expect after the fact

Secret Michigan Gun Control Bill That Passed Committee Is Revealed SB 1149 Substitute Ghost Gun Ban

Note that 2A Edu often had 2+hours videos discussing new bills where he may not get to any details until he is 20 minutes into the video but in this video and some other recent videos he has gotten straight to the point and kept the video under 30 minutes. He has mentioned getting feedback from viewers regarding length of his videos so has been putting some out that are shorter and right to the point. I just started watching some of his videos again after possibly a year so because I did not have the time or patience to listen to the same long introduction on history of 2A rights.

A few years ago when the Democrats took the house, senate along with Whitmore being governor I was wondering how long they would wait for putting forth more bills affecting firearm. I thought they were holding back after the few bills that went into effect early this year--i was wondering what they were waiting for to put forth many more bill. After the results the November election the Democrats appear to be trying to get all their firearm bills through the lame duck session.

I thought I should bring it to everyone’s attention that bills were just introduced into the Michigan Senate to ban the manufacture of homemade firearms (a.k.a. “Ghost Guns”) without serial numbers. I’m not sure what the legal process would be to make a serial number on a homemade firearm. But I wanted to make sure people were aware. Especially with the pinned post about not needing to register home built pistols, I figured these bills could cause some confusion in that question, should they pass.

Recently picked up a Del-Ton Lima Ar Pistol was wondering if this would fit on the buffer tube (Pistol Foam Buffer Tube, 6.5) and for this price is this a good company to trust i feel like it might be cheaply made it says CNC machined from Aluminum alloy but don't want to fork over the 100-300 for a commercial brand one. Any advice would be helpful.

link to folding stock adapter https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1079319489

Hello everyone, I'm 23 y/o living in Michigan on a F-1 student visa and went to the gun range a few times and thoroughly enjoyed shooting (something not available in my home country). I've got a MI driver's license which would be proof of MI residency. Now I'd like to buy a gun to take to the range so I can avoid renting. I looked into it and clearly I can't get a CPL, but it seems that if I'd get a hunting license this would allow me to buy a gun according to this from the ATF.

Thus my question, would this be a way for me to buy and register a gun in Michigan? And would I be able to buy a handgun with a hunting license or is it limited to rifles/shotguns only?

Basically the title. I've been wanting to go to BWSA but it's an hour drive from me. If it's the closest outdoor range I can plan accordingly, but it'd be easier to go more frequently if there's somewhere closer.

Been having issues with my old 22 target pistol, so everyone said buy high quality ammo, see if that helps.

So I picked up a box of 100 rounds of CCI TARGET 22LR. SEALED. Brand new. From Cabela’s in Saginaw.

Get to the range, and halfway through the box, I found these rounds.

They look like 22 short casings, on a standard slug? I have no idea.

Adding to the mystery, is the markings on the base: an “A”. Matches up to what Aguila puts on their ammo.

I don’t see where CCI is connected to Aguila in any way? And that still doesn’t explain the wrong shell casings.

Wtf. Anyone else ever see this?

Michigan Legislature lame duck bills, targeting anything and everything about firearms, that have seen movement in November/December:

• prohibiting carry in state buildings SB 0857, SB 0858

• a bumpstock ban, last action was in June, currently in committee SB 0942

• feel-good useless bureacracy and creating a do-not-sell list so you can sign yourself up on a list of prohibited persons! SB 1086

• banning guns of color SB 1134, banning toys of darkness SB 1135

• 'ghost gun' ban and criminalizing existing ones, prohibit 3D printing or CNC machining, 'assembling' more than 3 firearms in a year SB 1149

• requiring all parts of guns recovered in buyback programs to be destroyed SB 1136. Also HB 6144.

• prohibiting the sale and mandating complete destruction of all guns recovered by police SB 1137, and SB 1138. Also HB 6145-6146.

• changes to vehicle storage, with increased penalties depending on what the criminal who steals your weapon does with it, HB 6175

• remove manufacturer immunity from lawsuits HB 6185

• target buyers and dealers of illegal sales (redundant?) HB 6222

• fee increase for hunting licenses AND linking them to the CPI so they can go up every year HB 6229

• HB 4198 has gone through a couple of revisions after sitting dormant for several months. It now allows local government (aka city, township, etc) to ban open carry in their owned and leased buildings. h/t to /u/PutridDropBear and /u/elodam

I know this question has been asked to death, and I'm pretty sure I understand the process. But I want to post this as a sanity check to make sure I'm not overlooking some huge rule:

• Both my dad and I have our CPLs.
• I would like to surprise him with a handgun for Christmas
• My understanding is that after gifting it to him, we have to fill out a RI-060 form
• He then has to submit the RI-060 form within 10 days of the gifting (in this case, Christmas)

Is my understanding correct? Thanks, Michiganders!

Forgive my ignorance, or partial ignorance.

This weapon seems to fall in a quagmire legal chaos. It's a 16.1 barrel making ilit a Carbine for the Feds but it's only 22.7in long with the stock collapsed making it a pistol in MI.

I know I will have to get a permit to purchase from my local PD/Sheriff, my question is, can I put a vertical grip or an angled fore foregrip on it.

Haven't purchased yet, just looking for a range toy of sorts and don't want to get upside down with the law.

I currently have the newest version of the Barretta APX A1 FS. I personally love it after they updated the trigger and everything and I bought it at a steal since at the time no one realized they were a good gun for the price. I don't hunt currently and if I do it will be with a bow. I only really want one gun though so I can be an expert with whatever one I choose. Is a 9mm handgun the right way to go though? I could make money on it if I sold it now and I'm wondering if I made the right choice. Whats yalls take?

I have my CPL and recently bought a del-ton lima ar pistol barrel length 7.5inches overall length 23inches currently only has the buffer tube on it I'm curious on the legality of adding a pistol brace NOT A STOCK to the firearm i know i can have a handstop or angled grip instead of vertical grip but what is the legality of adding a fixed pistol brace onto it as well.

I cant find any posts or legislation with a DEFINITIVE answer so if anyone can help me i'd greatly appreciate it.

Hello,

I am looking to put a Folding Stock on my AR7 (see Haga Def. adapter) and wanted to check the legality beforehand the resulting configuration would be as such:
- Registered as a Long gun
- 16'' Barrel
- <26'' shortest OAL
- >26'' extended OAL

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There was this post about this adapter (outside of Michigan) -that would make this a SBR.

What would it be classified under Michigan Law? -I found this table in a previous post, but the classification remain unclear to me:

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Thank you for your help

What’s your gym carry gun? Or do you feel “safe” at the gym?

I am a new FFL dealer in Michigan my previous state had 0 laws like this and I am trying to understand the laws and be compliant, I read MCL 28.422a, and there are a few things that are not exactly clear based on what the RI-060 instruction say and what the law says... (by design I'm sure)

1. MCL 28.422a does not say anything about a NICS approval or a NICS transaction Number is required, it just says "the record must include the dealer license number of the federally licensed firearms dealer that performed the federal national instant criminal background check" For the RI-060 does this mean that these sections (NICS approval/number) can technically be left blank on every form..? Which leads me to my next question:
2. Customer purchases long gun, but is delayed until Brady Date which changes to open status, what do you put for the "NICS approval" to transfer the long gun. What is considered "approval"? He did not get a proceed from NICS, so is it the Brady date, or is this just left blank...? (assuming you even fill out an RI-060)
3. Am I correct that the seller, FFL or non-FFL, does NOT have to retain the RI-060 seller copy at all for any firearm sale. MCL 28.422a says "seller may retain" does that mean i can just throw out the sheriff (assuming one is not submitted) and seller copy immediately? Just we have to provide a copy to the purchaser?
4. If i am correct in everything above, If it's a long gun, what would happen if we didn't fill one out at all...? How would the state know we didn't give a copy to the purchaser? As i understand the purchaser does not have to retain a copy either....

Thank you to you all for your help, keep fighting the good fight.

Anybody get anything good? I was at Dunhams at 4:15 am getting the Hellcat Pro package. Was just me and 2 old dudes buying hunting ammo.

Figured this post might be helpful for people who got in trouble years ago and are wondering if they can legally purchase.

1 felony. Posession of narcotics under 25 gr.

1 misdemeanor for drunk and disorderly. <90 sentence

Both offenses occured in 2012. Clean slate was set into action 1.5 years ago. I checked my IChat a couple weeks after it was brought into effect. Record still showed up on iChat.

Forgot about it for another 1.5 years. Randomly stumbled across another post / article about the clean slate act. Ran iChat last Monday. Came back clean, no record found.

Asked several lawyers if I should be good to go and try to get an LTP and firearm after. Most lawyers said it was highly unlikely I would be able to purchase or pass a NICS check. I might be clear at the state level but not the federal level. Anyway, I proceeded to obtain a LTP from the local PD this weekend. Clerk informed me they ran a LEIN and a NICS check. Most lawyers stated they would only run a LEIN check. That might make you think you could obtain a LTP but then would fail the FBI (NICS) check at your local FFL. This was not the case.

Went to the local FFL dealer the same day and walked out with a glock 19. Passed the NICS check in 10-15 min.

TLDR; Lawyers don't know everything and might just want money to file another "expungement" or fake "Resortation of 2A Rights" case when you don't need one.

Good luck everyone.

Someone pls answer

I'm planning on getting my CPL and I know if you smoke weed you are disqualified from getting one, I've never smoked but I have bought weed for my partner who is of age when they ask and I'm meijer or Walmart. But I heard that if you buy it it puts a mark on your ID/Drivers license that also disqualifies you, so I'm wondering if that is true?

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Anyone have info or a member here? Looking to possibly get a membership but not having any luck with a response. Would like info on range times and any other common information about memberships. I visited their website for any info but it’s pretty vague as to range hours and membership. TIA

I cerakote as a hobby sometimes, and ordered a couple pints of V series thinking it would apply the same as C & H series and it does not. I had the hardest time working with it, so am looking to just give these four bottles to anyone who might be able to put it to use. Bought it in March 2023, so it's technically "expired", but that just means Cerakote won't honor any warranty with it now. Been kept in vac-sealed bags (except the gold). Chat is off, PM only.

I'm in Washtenaw county. Not trying to deal with shipping, so be willing to drive if you're elsewhere.

• V-119P - Satin Silver
• V-139P - Titanium Red Piston Coat
• V-166P - Cobra Black
• V-172P - Gold (used a couple ounces)

What are the Gun Laws for Active Duty Military? i’m moving from Louisiana. I’m planning on purchasing here in LA and probably purchasing one in MI.

Happy pre-thanksgiving everyone!

Before people say just google it, I did some searching but am coming up with contradictory information. I’m looking to purchase a handgun from my dad. We both have a CPL in Michigan. What documents do we need to complete? Thanks!

I just need one large interceptor vest back panel. I’ve got the front two I just need one more to complete an outer vest.