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Rebel Moon is a better story than Dune

Hear me out!

Dune is a simple story that has been expanded upon in the books, making it relatively easy to compress down a part of that story for film adaption, even though it misses out so much detail.

Rebel moon is an in depth and complex story that needs more space to breathe and fill out necessary detail to make is have a better flow.

The story of Dune is vast, with in depth characters and incredible world building. The recent movie adaption, while missing a large chunk of backstories and world building, still makes sense and flows really well. A lot of what makes Dune epic, is the depth of all the stories into the different houses, culture, religions and races. The story of Dune is a relatively simple one of Paul is a gifted young man who eventually grows up to become the leader of a rebellion and a religious messiah, all in an attempt to avenge his father's death.

Rebel moon on the other hand also has a vast universe, but it is not built or shown very well, the character of Tarak is a Prince from a world of vast culture and wealth that was overthrown by the military imperium. The characters all have interesting backstories, but are not acted well or written well. The story itself more resembles the movie Battle Beyond the Stars than it does Dune or Star Wars.

My argument is this, with the right actors and the right writers, as well as 6-9 movies to slowly build the universe, characters and plot, would be a better story than Dune, and on the same level as Star Wars. Building the origins of the rebellion and learning more about the brother sister story, learning more about Tarak and his people, learning more about General Titus. The story had the potential to be better than Dune in movie form, that is my point. Clearly it isn't though and inexperienced writing and acting ruined it. Due to the potential and vast amount in the story of Rebel Moon, in order for the movie to make any sense, it was mainly full of exposition. The battle we got in the second movie should have been bigger and the final culmination of a trilogy.

First movie learning about the characters who there are and what they lose, giving them purpose to fight. Including the story of Kora.

Second movie, Kora hiding out in a slightly larger village than the one she is in, showing her building relationships and making friends, as well as the ultimatum from the military imperium about the crops. Additionally some epic battle and story about how the rebellion was form, how those other characters were forged in the battles they fight in while seeking their vengeance.

Third movie, is basically the first movie where Kora meets and gets help, they have the small altercation, then they return to the planet for the 40 min epic battle, with the sister of the slain brother showing up to save the day as well as the esteemed Sir Anthony Hopkins robot.

You could literally do another movie about the fall of Taraks people.

Another movie about the rise of Kora as a military bodyguard and epic warrior.

Writing ruined the potential. But the story that is there is better than dune.

Everyone seems to compare this to Star Wars already because of a misquote. Feel free to check out the article clarifying. https://gizmodo.com.au/2024/01/how-rebel-moon-wouldve-been-different-if-it-were-star-wars

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2024/05/02
10:15 UTC

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Sentient Ships pre 1960?

Hello,

Anyone know any stories featuring sentient spaceships pre 1960? Anyone know the first time one appeared in fiction?

Thank you

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2024/05/02
09:54 UTC

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Have I lost the plot (pun intended) or have I imagined that Asimov also wrote a short story called The First Question? I'm aware of The Last Question but I swear he wrote a follow up/prequel called The First Question and now can't find anything referencing it at all.

I swear I didn't dream it.

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2024/05/02
08:48 UTC

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Bioshock Remastered - #20 Olympus Heights part 1 (Walkthrough, Hard)

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2024/05/02
07:46 UTC

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Would it be inaccurate to describe “The Expanse” as “Game of Thrones,” but in space?

I have not seen game of thrones, but from what I understand they both feature multiple protagonists following each of their stories individually. They are both about a mounting conflict between long time rivals and warring factions on a massive scale while a much larger threat mounts in the background. The only thing I can think of to differentiate them is obviously setting and the fact that the expanse has far less incest lmao 🤣

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2024/05/02
05:40 UTC

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How aware of/influenced by Lovecraft do you think Cixin Liu was when he wrote “Remembrance of Earth’s Past?”

I know there are a lot of differences in genre between the two of them, but some of the themes are strikingly similar. The universe is vast, uncaring, and dangerous. It is filled with beings who are, at best, indifferent to humanity and at worst will destroy everything in existence to wipe it out. There are terrifying species that possibly exist in higher dimensions and are incomprehensible for our limited brain to visually process - we would go mad from even seeing them. Etc, etc, etc. I know Liu must be aware of and have read Lovecraft, but do you think any of the Cthulu mythos consciously influenced themes explored in the trilogy?

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2024/05/02
04:56 UTC

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Other shows like Haven or Eureka

Looking for some shows along the same lines as both shows or women good adventure type or action sci-fi

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2024/05/02
04:43 UTC

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I suggest that WC create a show derived from The 100. It would be about Bill Kadington's cult, starting from the moment he first thought about it on Earth until the moment of the ascendance. It could be a great show if they planned it right.

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2024/05/02
04:05 UTC

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Plant people and egg laying.

From what I understand being a plant person is close to impossible because photosynthesis does not create enough energy for it to be viable.

Now instead of being warm blooded a plant person in this scenario is cold blooded in order to drop daily energy needs a bit.

I have not done much research on this but cold blooded animals from what I have seen need significantly less calories than warm blood. Anyways even with this we likely still need more calories so hunting and gathering or normal human omnivorous eating would supplement the photosynthesis.

Now another big benefit to cold blooded animals is that they lay eggs. Typically from what I have seen laying eggs is less energy intensive than normal birth but it provides the egg baby less energy thus is smaller upon hatching.

What if we could instead offset the fact that the eggs baby has less energy by allowing the egg to photosynthesize.

Now I have no clue how this could work, if it's even possible or worth happening but I thought it would be interesting. How would the baby hatch would it be much larger and stronger than normal due to extra energy or would it remain in the egg for far longer in order to grow even more or develop better? Interested to hear others thoughts on this.

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2024/05/02
02:26 UTC

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Back in the day, Isaac Asimov's monthly SciFi magazine published a short poem about the cockroach. And how it would meet its end. Can't find it, anywhere...

I've searched high and low for decades now! It seems like an easy enough search to a former library worker but I just keep coming up with bupkis. Nada. Empty, paper-cut, ink-stained, keyboard-bruised fingers... Anyone got any help? The poem started out listing the lonnng history of the cockroach and its seeming perfection, in evolutionary terms. It spent a few lines on how loathsome young, little creatures on this planet, the Humans, find it. I think it mentioned how the horrid, little beastie is actually a useful part of the cycle of life and death, decay and recycling of resources in a finite cycle... And then it brought that long, tens of millions of years-long history around to likely surviving the ever-so much smarter Humans, destined to kill themselves off in nuclear annihilation, before going on to finally meet its final and deserved end when the Sun goes supernova and blast-bakes the Inner Planets. Crispy critters? Nooo, hot, wind-blown carbon... No more cockroach. Does anyone here have any help for my long search??

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2024/05/02
02:03 UTC

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Wanting to start watching The Expanse. What should I know going in?

Main reason I ask: I heard it’s considered hard sci-fi, and the science here is probably gonna be stuff I barely know jack shit about. As it stands, science comes in third in terms of areas of study I understand super well, behind history and literature, but in the nitty gritty of science itself, I’ve got a good handle on ecology, I like to think a good understanding of biology and chemistry, and I have something of a grasp on some basic physics concepts, but that’s about it, so there’s probably gonna be things in here that’ll just zip over my head and I’m gonna be lost.

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2024/05/02
01:15 UTC

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More Modern "League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen" ?

tag for <RANDOM>
Not sure why, but I started thinking of who would be cool to include in a 1980s-NOW League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen... here's what I have so far:

Jack Traven, (who changed his name from Johnny Utah after the events of Point Break… also possibly John Wick)

Jason Born

Laura Croft? (might be the wrong time)

Agent Starling (maybe secretly a villain becoming a female Lector)

Wednesday

Michael Knight/Long

Stringfellow Hawke

Condor Man

Ralph Hanley

Dutch

Gru

Eleven

Elliot/Mastermind/Mr.Robot

Harry Vanderspeigle/Goliath from Resident Alien

Royal Abbot from Outer Range

Tom Brady (possibly Flash Gordon)

Nacho Libre

Dr. Jennifer Melfi

Harold Finch

John Tavner, in fact, the whole story takes place in the “Patriot” universe after he swims through the jellyfish.

That's all I had time for.... I was envisioning a more modern cyber-punk kind of thing... who else??? Villains too!

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2024/05/02
00:43 UTC

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Rebel Moon is hot garbage. Ignoring the flawed physics, recycled plotlines, and overused tropes with a DEI cast, the inclusion of space swords and space Vikings was particularly bizarre. It's almost comical how a former imperial general turned space gladiator encounters an imperial guard—this s

Rebel Moon is hot garbage. Ignoring the flawed physics, recycled plotlines, and overused tropes with a DEI cast, the inclusion of space swords and space Vikings was particularly bizarre. It's almost comical how a former imperial general turned space gladiator encounters an imperial guard—this seems like something Games Workshop might take issue with, considering the blatant similarities. Bringing a sword to a plasma bolt gunfight just adds to the absurdity. A Nordic farming village, with the aid of an eclectic DEI band of rebels, manages to overthrow a seasoned space Roman legion, which is just ridiculous.

The show borrows heavily from Star Wars, Star Trek, Dune, Games Workshop's Warhammer 40k, and Avatar, wraps it in DEI, and completely disregards physics. It seems designed for an undiscerning audience that doesn’t engage critically with content. It's suited for younger viewers or those with less education. I could envision it being mocked on MST3000 within a year.

While I support diversity and inclusion, it feels like Netflix, along with much of corporate media, pushes it to an extreme. However, I won't delve into that debate here to avoid unnecessary accusations of bigotry. The movies were terrible for many reasons unrelated to DEI: they were riddled with plot holes and borrowed heavily from various sci-fi and fantasy sources. It’s surprising that Games Workshop hasn't pursued legal action given the clear resemblance to their designs. The quality of the plot, storylines, and mechanics was poor, as were the special effects. The only redeeming feature was the android, which deserved more integration into the story. And as for coal-powered faster-than-light ships—what were they thinking?

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2024/05/02
00:26 UTC

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Trying to remember a book

I read it in the early '80s, but I don't know how old it was. Somewhat near future, countries have become focused on caring for the oceans. A team is working in a kelp forest off the coast of California. The first part ends with them fighting a giant octopus or squid, and one of them loses an arm. The arm gets replaced but it's a different skin color. In the rest of the book he keeps making references to his "white arm." The last part is about a secret project to engineer humans who are naturally amphibious. I think it may have been called the Aquanauts. There was a sequal that may have been called The Gray Whales. Does it sound familiar to anyone?

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2024/05/02
00:00 UTC

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I love Tron and made a video exploring it's fascinating history and evolution over the years

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2024/05/01
22:19 UTC

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Does anyone know where I can watch Psychoz (sci-Fi French short film)

Ive looked everywhere online and can only find the audience reviews/reaction. I signed up for a website that has short film festivals on it but this particular one is no longer there.

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2024/05/01
21:59 UTC

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Does anyone wanna join a Fantasy/Sci-Fi book club???

Hey everyone,

I'm thrilled to be starting a fantasy and sci-fi book club, and I'm on the hunt for fellow adventurers to embark on literary journeys with me! Whether you're a fan of epic quests, intergalactic adventures, or magical realms, this club is for you.

Since we'll be meeting online, we'll need to find the perfect day and time for our gatherings, as well as select our inaugural book together. Personally, I'm drawn to the captivating worlds crafted by authors like Brandon Sanderson and the mind-bending storytelling of "Ender's Game."

If you share my love for all things fantastical and futuristic, shoot me a DM and let's set off on an epic reading adventure together!

Looking forward to exploring new worlds with you all! 🚀📚

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2024/05/01
21:06 UTC

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Fringe. I forget how good this show was

decided to take this one off the shelf and watch the entire series this month. What a great show.

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2024/05/01
20:53 UTC

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Floating island (Dragon Balls Z)

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2024/05/01
20:48 UTC

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Need help finding a movie

 So i don't have any pictures or videos, but please help me out. I vaguely remember only one scene. There's a woman with a small bouquet of flowers and she was at this grave like site, there are zombies or ghosts standing/sitting on their graves. She hands them out to some of them but she runs out because she didnt have enough with her, So the zombies/ghosts get angry and start chasing her. That's all i remember the sky was kind of orange i think, there was a big building behind her, the movie had to been made before 2013~ the movie might have been in english or thai i can't remember. I know this isn't a lot of information but i have been searching for this movie for a long time and haven't found anything.

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2024/05/01
20:46 UTC

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Dyson Sphere inspired mothership, what would be the implications of such construction?

I'm an amateur writer in free time and am currently working on my scifi novel. There are a lot of different states and empires that fill my fictional galaxy, and this one popped in my head right now, so I immediately went to work.

The core concept is "Dyson Sphere is the engine" (more of a Dyson ring). So I drew the star that is surrounded by a structure representing a mothership of an empire (image). But soon I realized that might be harder to rationalize than I thought. So here are some parameters and effects I thought of that would affect the reality of this thing:

Orus

Star parameters

  • Star name: Orus
  • Type: Red Dwarf
  • Radius: 0.16 sol
  • Mass: 0.13 sol

Effects:

  • Moving such a thing would disrupt neighboring star systems
  • The mothership would eradiate entire spectrums of em radiation, making it dummy unsafe
  • The mothership would drag matter as it goes, such as planets, asteroid belts etc. effectively having its own star system
  • the structure itself would have a considerable gravity
  • Powerful WOMD: Ineduce amplified solar winds at the target

The structure itself would operate as military and residentual station/mothership. It is represented by two symmetrical sides that are thin in their coronal plane but thicken with the contact with the star (shape inspiration). The star would be artificially made instead of snaching one from the heavens. I chose red dwarf because of its size. Even tho those are one of the smallest possible stars, they are still remarkable.

Lore: Imperial capital of the most powerful political entitiy in the galaxy. Zealous civilization revering the god of the sun and stars. Mostly peacekeepers, swearing an oath of allegiance to any foreign states that convert to their religion.

What do you think the implications of this enormous construction would be?

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2024/05/01
20:26 UTC

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The War Of The Worlds Jeff Wayne's Musical - Illustrations by Geoff Taylor (1978)

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2024/05/01
20:11 UTC

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Zack Snyder on his Rebel Moon films

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2024/05/01
20:00 UTC

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Larry Niven Recommendations

The only author for which I have read all, their books, is Larry Niven. I want to enjoy that again, so Im tossing the idea of reading them all again because it’s been awhile, or do people have recommendations? I’m not big into science fiction authors as other types of media so I’m not as familiar with authors.

Franchises I enjoy are Star Trek, the expanse, firefly…but I can never seem to get into books about them. Larry Niven sparked my imagination and got me to creat those worlds so……

Thank you all for your input.

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2024/05/01
19:40 UTC

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Yeoman Rand...🥰

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2024/05/01
19:16 UTC

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[Star Trek] [PbP] [40+ new posts daily] Shadow Fleet

Shadow Fleet is the internet's premier Star Trek roleplay set in the year 2402. We've been in operation since 2007 and have gained popularity year on year. Our community is like a family, we welcome roleplayers of all experience levels. Come say hello on our Discord to find out more.

We offer our players:

- An Active and Large Community from across the world

- High activity, with 40+ new posts daily

- Adherence to canon and the prime Star Trek Universe (currently at Picard season 3)

- Authentic Chain of Command, with progression milestones for commissioned and non-commissioned routes

- The chance to earn 'IC' and 'OOC' awards and merits

- Experienced and talented Game Masters

- The latest version of SMF

- A Friendly and Welcoming community

We look forward to roleplaying with you. Live long and prosper!

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2024/05/01
19:08 UTC

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Title of a novel/story?

Crew of space craft refer to their AI as "the "stupid"

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2024/05/01
19:06 UTC

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Classic Singularity Fiction?

The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect

Spoiler Alert Below:

Overall point: This book is bad

I just finished this book, and despite contrary opinion, consider it one of the worst books I've read in its respective category and urge possible readers to save your time.

First, the book spends more time describing sex and torture than intellectual ideas or suspense scenes, and trivializes true suffering. The protagonist, out of boredom and nihilism in a post-singularity era, often engages in contracts where she undergoes purportedly horrific events but somehow is sexually stimulated at the same time. This essentially makes her feel alive again, momentarily combatting her nihilism. Sorry, but as anybody that has gone through true suffering knows, the latter is impossible. Intense suffering impels every ounce of your being to escape. There is no room for sexual stimulation, appetites of any kind, or even higher cognition for the most part.

Second, the protagonist is a horrible person. Essentially, the author depicts her as tough, independent-minded, and resolute, but really at the end of the story she's simply a brat. She heinously tortures another for petty vindictiveness and because of her "boredom" and nihilism ultimately acts in a way to nullify post-singulariy existence, kicking off another attempt at natural evolution as a result. Nevermind the brutality of natural evolution, and all the net positive utility erected by the singularity even as depicted in this story, she feels bad about her condition so -- boo hoo -- she's going to shut it all down. She reminds me of lot of contemporary third wave feminists, rich in pseudo bravado but really just petulant and lacking any true grit or objectivity; people who like to throw out the baby with the bathwater and piss on mostly good things simply because they have a personal grievance with them or it's not their preferred lifestyle.

Third, the AI in this book is not by any reasonable definition superintelligent. The AI is, granted, hamstrung by the three laws of robotics; it is not allowed for instance to "probe" or simulate minds. This would never occur in reality though. Anything capable of simulating physics, chemistry, and biology in some depth will have by default some capacity to model minds. Likewise, to predict economics, markets, etc., you clearly would have to simulate some elements of human cognition.

This naturally leads to the fourth problem, there's no reason to think people would be bored in the singularity or that it's morally relevant that they stop becoming "human" if some choose to wirehead themselves. Boredom is simply an emotion inherent in the Bayesian prediction making machine that is the brain. In a true singularity, you would think all emotions and drives could be reengineered and recalibrated. You could design people to, for instance, take sexual pleasure in solving math problems. You could also diminish or drastically turn down the volume on the habituation response. You could essentially live your life with endless enthusiasm, even with minimal novelty. We get bored and habituate simple due to the mathematics of optimal foraging and our contingent evolutionary history. You, intuitively, nonetheless could have a machine or brain that is wired to have endless joy and anticipation with minimal change. If on the other hand, in all possible worlds, you actually need to introduce continuous novelty into a world to mitigate this habituation response, ideally a superintelligence could find a way to do this, even with some limitation on overall compute power in a local universe. For instance, creating a new universe and drawing on extended compute from that universe. And the definition of "human" I would argue is not morally relevant to the post singularity. Ideally, what we want is to maximize the existence of all conscious beings or agents.

So here's this story in a nutshell: "I'm tired of all this pleasure, so nag, let's screw over the billions of beings who were uplifted from ceaseless destitution and suffering, and bring back good old natural suffering via evolution by natural selection." Yeah, I'll pass, thanks.

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2024/05/01
18:38 UTC

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