Could someone please recap that part for me from the book and use quotes to support it? I loved the book, but often times need summaries to help me remember. Thankfully, I know Dune 2 is inaccurate.

Any fans of the 2000s Dune TV series? I just finished Children of Dune and loved it. Maybe my favorite book so far. How does the series hold up? Is it worth the watch?

“I’ve quite a stockpile of private stuff, but that suicide raid by the Duke’s men got most of what we’d stored for sale” Pg. 304, said by the Baron Harkonnen

What is it in reference to?

I worked my tail off on these - definitely my most ambitious costume project to date! I used Alyson Tabbitha's excellent pattern and YouTube tutorial for the stillsuits, and borrowed heavily from Macabre Bree's Lady Jessica costume tutorial. There are a few things I would have liked to have added if I had more time (mainly weathering to the stillsuits), but I am pretty pleased with how everything turned out! ☺️

Unfortunately I wasn’t really confident in it because this suit is not made for people with larger chests in mind, also it fell apart the second I got to where I was going so I just changed into some normal clothes 🫠 figured I’d at least show it to some people

My partners Lady Jessica costume for Halloween 🎃

No other characters from the Dune saga stimulate my imagination more than those two, probably because they are depicted in such a mysterious way. But though they are obscure, I think the Dune series actually provides enough worldbuilding context for the reader to make sense of them and why they are so dangerous.

It is hard to think of a proper starting point for my thoughts on this but I'll try: Let's start with the idea of the Kwisatz Haderach as the chosen one, or of Leto as a sort of "God" and then head in the opposite direction from that. Of course those who have read the series already know that, what I mean is that they weren't even actually that special in the Duniverse. Paul wasn't the only one who could ever be cut out for KH-duty, nor was he the only one who could possibly find out how to destroy the spice cycle. Some rogue Fremen, at some point might've done so purely out of spite after having their sietch wiped out by the Harkonnen. Liet and Duncan could mingle with Fremen before Paul.

The point is that though Paul threatened to destroy the spice cycle, this very threat was part of a plan to save it. It also fits in with how Paul could see possible futures in the first book where others would lead the holy war instead of him.

In the first book we already have Fenring, the almost KH. Notably, he is completely invisible to Paul's prescience.

In Dune Messiah, Scytale reveals that the Tleilaxu were able to create their own KH, and that this experimental KH committed suicide. This guy is extremely important for my theory, but more on that later.

In CoD, Leto II becomes a human-sandworm hybrid due to these ingredients: He is an "abomination", he is tripping on a massive dosage of spice, he has prana-bindu BG training...and more, but the point is that what he did wasn't a literal holy miracle.

In God Emperor, Leto tells Siona while they are in the desert, and speaking in true privacy, that she might be able to replicate his feat with the proper training, focus, etc. Leto does add the caveat that "not anyone could do it." So I guess the only candidates are the elites with BG training and access to loads of spice, + willing to give up their normal human lifestyle (no more beefswelling), but now it's starting to sound like a special club of potential hybrids and not the holy domain of the chosen ones.

So, here's what I think Daniel and Marty are up to:

Given that they've gathered enough personas from their former masters, the Tleilaxu and probably a whole lot more, they know about the process behind super-prescients like Leto II + they also know that two prescient individuals can muddy each others vision + they know that super-prescients like Leto II can easily see f.x a Guild navigator = I think those two devious Super Face Dancers, given that they were Tleilaxu and definitely knew how to operate Axolotls tanks, bred Human-Sandworm hybrids on a large scale. They gave them the skillset for super-prescience, but they bred so many of them that they canceled out not only each other's visions, but made the prescience phenomenon overall become weaker. Those Tyrant-replica types act as planetary governors for Daniel and Marty, their prescience perhaps limited to the planets they're stationed on. Every planet under their control a horrifying panopticon prison where Futars and other hybrids are bred in secret.

This would mean that the Daniel+Marty realm, somewhere out there in the Scattering, is, like a Chapterhouse Deluxe version, completely invisible to any rival power that might attempt to create their own Tyrant-replica. In their invisible realm, Daniel and Marty can defy the Butlerian proscriptions, make contact with aliens, build a trillion stoneburners on some hidden factory world, and nobody has a clue. Also, it would explain why the HM are running from them, because they don't know in what system/s D&M realm is.

But this of course raises the question: How can Daniel and Marty see Duncan Idaho? They're not described as Tyrant-replica types. No. They are some new type of entity. That's because they have a form of "vision" that is different from the prescience used by Paul and Leto II, though I think Leto II probably knew that this type of vision existed. Let's call it "New Vision."

New Vision allows them to see Duncan Idaho, but to their dismay, he can also see them, which leads to the hilariously ironic outburst "Stop spying on us!". New Vision isn't completely new then.

As a concept in the Dune saga, New Vision may have originated in Dune Messiah. Duncan has his first "total recall" moment in that book. Much later, in Chapterhouse, Duncan meditates on the fact that he can remember all his past ghola lives, even though it shouldn't be possible, at least not through Genetic memory. His original cells were lost or something, I don't recall the details right now, but there are "gaps" in the genetic material bridging one ghola to another.

What makes the unfortunate Tleilaxu KH mentioned in Messiah so important is that he was the original KH. He probably saw the future before Paul's time and had insider knowledge of Tleilaxu culture. There's also the fact that the Tleilaxu are obsessed with their mission to awaken ghola memories. Why? Maybe because their KH saw that it was possible, but those possibilities only inspired him to give up on life/refuse to help the Tleilaxu. So the Tleilaxu attempted to manipulate Paul instead. Daniel and Marty are the horrible end-result of the Tleilaxu-victory-timeline, something Paul may have caught a vague glimpse of. Whatever he saw at the end of his vision, it was so utterly horrible that he chose to go blind and gave up on saving Chani.

D&M are Face Dancers who defeat their masters and vanquish all who oppose them, even the HM. Unfortunately, Daniel and Marty are sterile (not that I'm hating on people who don't have kids, I'm just discussing what I believe to be Frank's logic/message). They like to play God, but the one thing they can't do is procreate. So, Daniel and Marty themselves act sort of like selfish children who treat mankind as their toy collection and since no one will inherit their Empire when they die, it will descend into ruin. Their immaturity is also evident in how they complain about how Duncan getting away wasn't fair. They don't need a grain of spice to see whatever they fancy. The no-ships supposedly shielding Chapterhouse offer no protection from New Vision.

Duncan Idaho has this New Vision ability too, thanks to the Tleilaxu and Leto II developing him into some "timeless" entity on account of being ghola'd so terribly often, and based on some instinct, Duncan realizes that the only hope for humanity is to get as far away from the Milky Way as possible.

Anyway, I'm not trying to write fanfic here, just can't get those mysterious Face Dancers out of my head so I tried to patch together a proper head canon. Maybe it all makes sense, maybe it doesn't.

So I'm looking for the soundtrack entry for the scene just before Paul nukes the Shield Wall, where he signals to Gurney to fire the nukes, then the soundtrack plays this amazing music as Paul walks up this cliff above the area where his army is spread out, before shouting out a battle cry with his knife in his hand above his head.

It's in this scene: https://youtu.be/FO4pb-aqVmM?si=VzHChwWScH4d7phc

The relevant sounds starts at 0:45 of this clip, though the softer build up is earlier.

This particular soundtrack seems to blend Arrival with the female chanting what sounds like Arabic near where he reaches the top. It seems more epic than Arrival, and I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find this part in the soundtrack?

Also, there's a post in this Reddit connecting every scene in Dune 1 to the soundtrack, is there a similar post for Dune 2?

Firstly, I need to put a disclaimer. I know they wanted a daughter, not paul, I know what their original plan was. What I am asking is what did their plan become?

Obviously Paul still had to figure into new plans, they know even if hes not the KH hes gonna hold some very important genes. And iirc they wanted to save Paul and Jessica from the trap on Arrakis. So what did they plan to do with them? Do you think they planned to wed Paul to Irulan? or keep him a secret and breed him so they can retain his genes but not use his person? I think answering this question will involve a lot of speculation but I want to hear your ideas.