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Saw the documentary today in Montreal, Canada after watching updates of it being made here on this sub and just wanted to say congratulations to everyone involved it was awesome! Everyone clapped after the show :)
Fun documentary! Really enjoyed it. Looking forward to rewatching the series again!
It seems like literally every survivor had at least one asshole parent, but which parent do you think was the worst
Just went through Tricia Tinaka is dead once again (my personal favorite episode the bus scene always makes my day). What episodes have you re watched the most, or always find yourself coming back to?
Simply amazing. Saw it in theatres and it captured the show perfectly. Seeing some of the cast (and how good they aged!!) was awesome, wish Matthew Fox was in it but those who were did amazing. Must watch!!!!
There is a brief scene in one episode where the Smoke Monster “smoke” is revealed to be small beetles. But I can’t for the life of me find which episode.
Anyone know it off the top of their head?
Im watching the last season of lost and noticed something. This is season 6, episode 13. Did Jack always have these tattoos and I just never noticed? Or is this a mistake and they forgot to cover it up? haha
I don't know if this has been covered before, but why is dharma still delivering supplies to the island when there has been the purge etc and dharma has been eradicated from the island, who is funding these parcels? And logistically, how did they get the materials and resources to the island to build the stations, the depth of the pearl it would need some serious equipment to get there... or is this just part of the magic of the island???
I'm just out of the theater and find myself emotional. Am I the only one that now feels like finding your lost online pals from that time? I've never met them in person, but talking with these French people from the lost era was amazing. It got me through a lot of solitude and one big back surgery (we were joking about that and Jack being a neurosurgeon lol).
My love of writing, tv and stories come from lost. My English writing skills come from lost. Some of my (bad) graphist skills and website related stuff comes from running a lost blog and rpg.
The documentary makes me love the actors and writers and Giacchino even more. Evy spoke so well. Elizabeth was so smooth and positive and softspoken. Josh was funny and got even hotter with age (so did Daniel dea kim). Emilie de Ravin didn't age at all. Jorge, well, is Jorge haha.
I didn't know how they would handle the toxicity stuff given that a lot of the persons involved were not in it. Well, they did it brillantly. I gained even more respect for Damon for his accountability and his sincerity. I love him.
I'm now very much into podcast now but not back then. I wish I were, lol! Glad that good old Darkufo website got a mention.
Anyway. Sorry for that useless post.
Edit: One thing that felt a bit weird, though, was how no one names other actors. There were no "Oh x, I loved working with him and I remember...."
Also, I loved what Evy said about the love triangle and I 100% agree with her. Thats something I've been thinking for some time.
PLEASE DON'T ROLL YOUR EYES but all these cuts from Josh to Evy and vice versa got me a bit giddy as a big Sawyer and Kate fan.
I guzzled the first four seasons and I’m going to finish the show but season 5 is losing me. I’m having to watch some episodes/scenes again because I keep getting distracted 😭
While watching I wondered where the brand new washing machines in the bunker came from, then the characters even commented on it. Did the show answer it or is it just assumed the old one broke and the person pushing the button at the time requested a new one and the fulfillment center just sent one in with the food?
I'm Brazilian, back in 2004 i saw it release and watched all 6 seasons. I was in High School. When episode was released in US, someone would upload as a torrent, then I could download and watch it.
Now I see everyone watching it as if it's all new and I'm 33yo, feel old and all memories came back.
Crazy to see it all again.
Anyone going through the same?
I know that everyone says a character will grow on you but real talk I HATEEEE Ana Lucia and Sawyer, they are both the most unlikable characters. Ana Lucia is certifiably nuts and Sawyer is a suicidal coward.
Imo if there is a “redemption arc” for other of them I will still hate them😅
BEST EPISODE IN THE WHOLE SERIES IMO. 10/10 SCENES, ACTING, RICHARDS STORY, SCENERY, AND OVERALL BACKGROUND. SO GOOOOOD
I find it so frustrating when Locke brushes off the dreams, visions, and premonitions of others. Locke was the first character, that we are aware of, to buy into the mystical qualities of the island. Is he that conceited to think the island talks only to him? For all his talk of fate and destiny, he seems to have a hard time believing that the other survivors might have their own destinies.
Did anyone else find Michael and Sawyer's lack of concern about Jin after the "raft" was blown up strange?
Going through my second rewatch of the show in the last month and just want to say how brilliant The Constant is as an episode but also how well they deal with time travel. As someone with a strong fascination for time travel film I was so pleased to see how they navigated this especially for a show that came out from '04-'10! The concept of time traveling ones consciousness is something I've been exploring lately and have only really seen it done well in Days of Future Past, but the way Desmond Humes character travels between timelines through his consciousness was a brilliant subplot to the show. The way he blips in and out of time is so powerful in his performance and ultimately how he at multiple times saves the main cast - RIP Charlie! Not to mention how his little future blips work in those Charlie episodes too.
It's also interesting to see how Daniel's character works in regards to all of the time travel mechanisms throughout the show. How exists in various timelines as well by traveling through the various blips and whiteouts on the island.
I'm also wondering, and not sure if it's mentioned enough in the group about Eloise' powers and abilities. Such as how she is able to see Desmond when he lives through his life again post hatch to tell him that he has to go back to the island and make sure everything happens the way it should. She kind of has a mystic Madame Web vibe to her, perhaps due to her being on the island for so long in her youth, does she develop some more uncanny abilities that she passes on to her son?
Anyone else interested in sharing thoughts and concepts about time travel here I'm definitely down for it!!
Namaste.
Sorry; this is long. I watched Lost back when it was airing and loved it. With 15–20 years of maturity gained since my first watch, I'm really blown away by how good this is on so many levels. The flash-sideways and church ending really resonated this time in quite a profound way. I won't go into everything else I love about the show because it'll already have been said better by others.
When I first watched Lost, I struggled a bit with the on-Island events of Seasons 5 and 6. I usually dislike time travel stories. Perhaps, having watched about 400 episodes of Star Trek as a kid and plenty of other sci-fi since, I feel like I've seen it all before. So Season 5 was the weakest for me, both the first time and on rewatch.
As for Season 6, I remember on my first watch being disappointed with what was revealed about the nature of the Island. I followed all the theories online back in the day. Aliens, Eden, Atlantis, government experiments—while these may not have ultimately stacked up against all the evidence, they were exciting and meaningful. Hell, even the purgatory theory was meaningful in a thematic way. For it to just be a magic island with a set of seemingly arbitrary rules was not enough for me. I know this is perfectly satisfactory for many viewers (as a vehicle for the character stories), and I have no problem with that, but personally I wanted more. To be honest (for my tastes) "it's just magic" or "it's the rules" or (the worst when you're a physicist) "it's electromagnetism", are not much better than "it's purgatory".
On my rewatch I was determined to find more meaning in all the Source/Light/Jacob/MiB/Cork stuff. I'd say I was partially successful. I enjoyed it a lot more, resolved much of what I had previously felt to be arbitrary, and was left with much greater sense of cohesion between the later on-Island events and the overall character arcs.
So here is my theory: I would prefer to call it an interpretation. It's incomplete and not 100% consistent with every single fact shown on screen—although I think it fits the major plot points and themes—but personally I find this more satisfying than the "it's just magic" kind of angle. I elaborated on the theory that I always found to be most alluring—the Garden of Eden—but I hope there's something new in my take here that will be of interest. I'm not claiming this interpretation was intended by the writers: it just works for me. Also for the record, I'm not a religious Christian but I do enjoy religious themes and mythology quite a lot.
So, first of all, why an Eden interpretation? The obvious hint is the "our very own Adam and Eve" in Season 1. It's a paradisal location: beautiful weather, beach, scenery, abundant food and water. It's also a place that humans, with a few obvious exceptions, have lost access to. It's not just the characters that are lost: the Island is also a lost place.
To me, the defining features of Eden are the forbidden trees: the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life. I like to interpret the Eden story as being about the emergence of human consciousness in our prehistoric ancestors. To eat of the Tree of Knowledge is to become conscious—to become aware of one's own condition as an existing being: this is when Adam and Eve realize they're naked. To become conscious necessarily brings separation from the blissful ignorance of Eden, hence "Man" is "cast out" of Eden and enters into the reality of human problems. The core of my interpretation is that the Source in Lost is the "Tree" of Knowledge, i.e. the source of consciousness. I know some other popular theories have also made the connection between the Source and consciousness. It's the source of life, death and rebirth: the place where our consciousness emerges from at birth, and returns to at death—remember the Light at the end of the final church scene. Our connection to the Source is symbolized in the biblical story as eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.
After banishing humans from Eden, God sends Cherubim (an angel—I understand the original text is ambiguous as to whether this is singular or plural, but I read it as a single angel) to guard Eden, and specifically to guard the Tree of Life. Adam and Eve never get to try the Tree of Life. Why? Personally I read "Tree of Life" as Tree of Eternal Life or as the Tree of Immortality. Eating of the Tree of Knowledge transformed us from animals into humans; eating of the Tree of Life would transform us from humans into gods. This is utterly forbidden. The desire for godhood is what causes a certain angel to become the Devil in the Christian tradition.
Back to the Island—it’s other magic, in addition to being the source of consciousness, is that found in the various "pockets of electromagnetism" (whatever that means). This power was studied by DHARMA, and harnessed in ancient artefacts like the Donkey Wheel. It seems to have several related effects, but the most dramatic of them is time travel. This is the power of the Tree of Life. Time travel provides access to an immortality of sorts, and the ability to transcend the cause-and-effect limitations of normal human life. It's a god-like power. This power is forbidden because its abuse leads to chaos and ultimately the breakdown of reality. A very small-scale demonstration of this is seen with the rabbit in the Orchid orientation video. The film "Primer" is also about this: the effects of time travel quickly overwhelm the comprehension of the time travellers, and they end up in a hellish vortex of intersecting timelines. I know Primer follows different time travel rules to Lost, but it's the thematic importance of using a forbidden power that is relevant.
So we now have a lost paradise that contains both the origin of human consciousness and the forbidden key to godhood, guarded by an angelic "protector". Angels serve as messengers and representatives of God. They appear because humans cannot apprehend God directly. The nature of God must (by definition) remain a mystery, so we never see God directly on-screen. God would be something like the "will of the Island" that manifests in seemingly arbitrary "rules". N.b. existence itself, whether seen from a theist or atheist viewpoint, seems ultimately to be arbitrary: see the "problem of the why there is something rather than nothing" in philosophy. Anyway, the original protector of the Island was Cherubim. The protector represents and heralds the "will of the Island". We see this in Jacob's role as a messenger to the Candidates: he appears in their off-island lives to call them to a higher purpose.
"Mother" perhaps heralds the "will of the Island" in a kind of Old Testament mode. She is vengeful and punishes human societies (in this case MiB's "people" on the Island) when they "disobey God", i.e. when they try to access the forbidden Tree of Life. Jacob represents a more optimistic position. His message is not one of obedience, but of trust. He trusts people, and I mean individuals rather than humanity as a whole, to find their own personal path to redemption. This is my reading of the biblical narrative: we have to transcend blind faith in a set of rules and find our own individual redemptive path—Jesus' path is given as an example. It's in allowing people to find their own redemption, through their own free choices, that ultimately allows them to vanquish "the Devil". They have to make the right choices though.
Lost presents several paths that one could take. We want the path that leads home—"the narrow gate"—but most paths are false paths that will leave us lost. These are the false paths of pure science (DHARMA and first iteration Jack), pure faith (Locke), psychic powers (Walt perhaps), esoteric knowledge (e.g. numerology), and ambition (Widmore). There's also the path of what I would call inauthentic religion, or perhaps cult: blindly following some system that purports to be divinely inspired but is in fact just another human power structure. I would place the Others under the leadership of Ben in this latter category.
The true path, that the Island trusts at least some people will take (and for which Jacob provides the signposts), is something like loving sacrifice and duty to your "people”. For Jack his people are his fellow survivors but this is a metaphor for family, friends, neighbours, co-workers or whatever the viewers' relevant community is. It's also the path that unifies science and faith. Science (I prefer "rationality") alone will lead to nihilism (alcoholic Oceanic 6 Jack), and blind faith will lead to frustrating dead-ends (Locke). The combination of the two however is purpose, and furthermore purposeful sacrifice. Naturally in a story like this, sacrifice is played out in the ultimate sense with Jack's death, but any deep purpose that we find in life will involve some level of sacrifice (as shown in the arcs of many other characters). Of course for Jack, a resurrection of sorts follows his death whereby he "lives" again in the flash-sideways. Bringing in a bit of Eastern thought, the closure he receives in the flash-sideways could be interpreted as the final resolution of his karma that frees him from the cycle of death and rebirth, such that on passing through the Light at the end he rejoins eternally with the divine.
Jack's loving and dutiful sacrifice—dutiful in the sense of duty to his people—brings about the destruction of the force that is set in diametric opposition. MiB wants to get off the Island but, importantly, he wants to get off the Island with the knowledge of how to use it (i.e. how to use the Tree of Life). MiB's departure will inevitably lead to corruption of the timeline on a global scale: reality would be transformed into a chaotic nightmare, and this reality is hinted at visually by the sinking of the Island when the Cork is removed. Purpose would be a meaningless concept in a world where cause-and-effect has broken down, which is why MiB is on a collision course with Jack's path of purposeful sacrifice. Why is MiB so doomed? Because his desire for personal freedom is pathological and without any counterbalance in the form of duty to his "people": remember he has no real care for the people on the Island in Across the Sea. That's the "two sides, one light, one dark": loving sacrifice for your "people" vs. reckless pursuit of selfish freedom.
That's mostly it but here are some additional loosely connected thoughts:
For me I’d say these stood out- John Lockes dad taking his kidney
Walt being taken
Desmond and Jack having the conversation in Orientation in the jungle where they recognize eachother
John vs Jack at the end of Orientation “It’s never been easy!”
Michael and Ana Lucia and Libby
Desmond turns the key
“My names Sawyer too”
Not Penny’s boat/ WE HAVE TO GO BACK
Desmond and Penny phone call
The end when they all are together.
Hi, first time watcher up through middle of S3!
How did Ben know Henry Gale’s wife’s name was Jennifer if he didn’t know about the note on the $20 bill? The note didn’t mention anyone so it doesn’t seem like Henry had interacted with the others before his death.
It bothers me every time. Sayids whole thing is making it back to the love of his life who is a badass freedom fighter. He falls for Shannon? The exact type of American he’s spent his whole life probably having about as low an opinion as one can have of another type of person and they don’t even play that up. Has Sayid secretly wanted to be a yuppie his whole life? I actually think Shannon is a better character than Sayid who tends to be very one dimensional so I’m sad she dies off early but my god their romance scenes are some of the worst in the show.
So back in 2010 when we found out it would be the last season of Lost, my then bf (now husband) and I binged the whole show so that we could watch the finale live with the rest of the world. And by binged I mean we would pop the Netflix dvd into the Nintendo Wii that was hardwired to the internet router and stream it that way. Then I had to buy season 6 on iTunes. I was 23 when it ended and I remember being severely disappointed with the ending and upset that we had wasted so much time binging the show.
Well 8 weeks ago my husband meets up with a friend who is wearing a shirt that just says “4 8 15 16 23 42” and sends me a pic asking if I understand the reference. I replied “Of course, it’s from Lost. We should watch it again with (daughter) this time”. It was meant as a joke because we both thought we hated the show. Well that night he came home and put it on and my 12yo daughter was hooked from episode one. I was hooked too. Honestly the ONLY things that I remembered from my first rewatch were that >!Kate gets off the island with Aaron and Jin and Sun die in the sub!<. We just finally got to sit down tonight and watch the finale together. My daughter was confused about the flash backs in the flash sideways but understood it better than I did with my first watch once I explained it to her. All three of us were in tears when >!Claire and Charlie remembered each other!<.
I think I enjoyed the show much more this time because I finally understood season 6 and the ending, many thanks to Reddit. We did watch The New Man in Charge right after but I didn’t feel like I needed it.
I’ll give myself another few weeks to finish watching the other show that I’m catching up on (Grey’s Anatomy) but I think Lost has found it’s spot in my top 10 favorite shows and will be a yearly repeater. I can’t wait to go back and watch it again with all of the information fresh in my mind.
And, while I wasn't terribly thrilled with how they wrapped up the mysteries(Or rather, didnt), it was still a very enjoyable show. I'm immediately going into a rewatch.
And so I ask, what kind of things should I watch for as i go through again? What theories do you have on the assorted mysteries? Any good trivia? Give me the good shit as I dig through this sub.