heyyy so im back with a new drawing, ender swallowed by regret after everything that happens in his childhood

I’ve read many of these books a long time ago. Excited to get back into this book series. I never read any of the second Formic War though. What’s your favorite book in the series.

I'm working on a project delving deep into the Ender's Game series(everything in it Shadow series/Formic wars/upcoming books, and I'd love to connect with someone who is extremely knowledgeable about all things within it - read everything, knows the lore, informed about news, etc. Basically I'm looking for someone to bounce ideas off of, answer some questions, and fact check some sections of the project I'm working on.

*Posting my 20+ questions and fact checking paragraphs of info would get bulky in things like discord groups or reddit so highly prefer just talking to one person, happy to credit you, your website, or your socials in the final project.

Thank you Reddit!

I'm going with Olhado

Or does Orson keep relentlessly harping on his fetish for teenagers having babies? I’m reading for Bean’s story, not for monologues about his religious beliefs.

Because I just listened to Ender’s Game, and when he’s on leave between Battle School and Command School, Valentine tells him about her and Peter being Locke and Demosthenes. Then in the introduction of Ender in Exile, Ender points out flaws in Demosthenes’ reasoning and writing, saying he wishes he could speak to him, and always refers to him as a man, or using male pronouns.

Is this just another example of Card not remembering specific details in the years in between the writings of his books?

I know nothing of the publishing process and just wanted to ask if anyone knew of a rough guide/estimate as to when The Queens is likely to released? (Somebody reported it was finished & now in the editing stage)

I read Enders Quintet a while back (maybe year ago?) and I was just wondering if anyone has recommendations? I really liked fact Ender livinf for so long through time dilation, without making hime immortal or actual time travel (and, at least initially, without people realizing he was this historical person from many generations ago, one that wasn't looked upon favorably anymore). I also like the whole situtation with Ender-Peter in the last two books (which made me enjoy it even if you barely see Ender-Ender. Actually, I probably enjoyed it more when Ender-Ender fell into his coma...🤣). I really liked those unique situtations, so I was wondering if other books took inspirations from those type of situations.

I've read Ender's Game probably 5 or 6 times over the years. I never had an inclination to read anything else, prequels, sequels, etc. I had no opinions of them, because Ender's Game is a perfect standalone story.

But, finally, something pushed me to go further finally, so I re-read Ender's Game yet again. I explored reading orders, and browsed around this subreddit for quite a while, getting more excited without spoiling anything for myself. I decided that original publication order would be best...

So that brings me to Speaker for the Dead. I guess I'm only 10% of the way through but it is doing the exact opposite of "hooking me." I read that Speaker is supposedly more "philosophical" which is GREAT - it's what I was looking for. But this isn't that (so far).

I will stick with it, because the Enderverse is just too large to ignore. But, how long will it take for it to feel familiar? Will it at all? (Ender appears eventually, right...RIGHT!?)

Should I pivot to the Shadow series? Any other suggestions?

yeah so i’ve been really trying to fight the urge for a long time and finally gave in and made a little ender analysing the formics’ homeplanet

if anyone has any enderverse ideas they’d like to see drawn please share

How do you rank the following?

• Speaker Trilogy
• Shadow Saga
• Formic Wars

I just finished Speaker Trilogy. I loved EG and SftD! I liked CotM. But I didn’t care much for Xenocide. I am curious to see your personal rankings on the different series before I continue.

(The picture is not OC.)

I'm a little disappointed that Miro & Co didn't have a face to face interaction with the creators of the Descolada virus. I've read Ender's Shadow (15 years ago) but am not really interested in reading the other ones. Can someone tell me if the creators of the virus show up again in the Shadow series or in The Last Shadow

(I'm currently in the middle of my (at least) 12th "read-through" (listening on Audible) of this series. Well, the first 4 books, i don't have the others yet.)

I understand that her and the rest of the Godspoken are incredibly intelligent, and she had her computer terminal run searches non-stop.

But.

It's said in an earlier chapter that Jane devoted much more of herself than normal to watching and listening to the Han household. If she was really paying that serious attention, she would've known that Qing-Jao was getting closer and closer to discovering the identity of Demosthenes, and thus, Jane's existence.

Couldn't Jane have subtlety "misdirected", maybe, the searches? Blocked the terminal from accessing the information, and instead made the terminal coke up with yet another "Not Found" message?

(I know that's not how the story goes and how the book was written, but I'm trying to think logically here).

Got pretty much every book now, just need the formic trilogies and short stories

I want to read in chronological order so I plan to read Ender in exile after Shadow the of Giant but I’m not sure if I should do shadow in flight or speaker first after Ender in exile.

Listening to the audio book "First Meetings" and in the story "Teacher's Pest" John Paul >!when he came to the US he spent 2 weeks in Racine to learn enough about the city to make people believe he was from there.!< Interesting thing is that's my home town and I live there now. I wonder how OSC choose that as the starting point for the Wieczorek/Wiggins family in the US?

With last shadow it seems like card doesn't seem to care about the series anymore, do we think Aaron is taking over things from now on?

Re-reading the series. Listening actually in audiobooks. I'm on Xenocide and came across an extremely frustrating part. They're speaking about the philotic rays and Ender zooms in on a display of them. He notes how they never touch. Then it says. "It's something that Ender had never realized. In his mind the galaxy was flat the way the star maps always showed it." This has frustrated me to no end. Xenocide already has some very frustrating characters and Ender is so changed but I was chocking it up to the time skip and him being older but this, there is no way he had never realized it. It was literally the very first thing he realized at battle school and part of what shaped his success. He commanded armies in zero gravity. He led entire armadas in deep space to battle. "The enemy gate is down." That concept was a huge part of Ender's Game. The ability to think of space in multidimensional ways allowed him to do what he did. How could he not only forget that but forget that he had ever thought it?

Just finished Ender's Shadow and I just have to express my appreciation for how well the suicide charge was written. It's brilliant how the story was framed for Bean to be the only child aware of the sacrifices of the soldiers on the ships.

It made me tear up to consider the final thoughts, of all the soldiers, while having Bean send off a the Abasolum prayer to them.

"O my son Absalom," Bean said softly, knowing for the first time the kind of anguish that could tear such words from a man's mouth. "My son, my son Absalom. Would God I could die for thee, O Absalom, my son. My sons!"

Nothing else to add, I just thought it was special.

I'm about halfway through Children of the Mind, and out of all the books I've read in this series I've found this one probably the most boring. Ender's Game is one of my favorite books, and Speaker for the Dead was interesting and had me hooked after the first fifty pages (the buildup up to >!Pipo's death !<was a dull read). It feels like the series peaked at Speaker, though, 'cause Xenocide has a lot going on and apart from the end of the book and >!Quim's death !<nothing really happened. There was no sense of progression.

I know everything after Ender's Game is more philosophical, but isn't all that engaging to me. I'm just venting I guess, but I was hoping for something a little more intriguing.

I read all the books by publication order, now I’m in the middle shadows in flight I’m not sure if I should get into the formic wars series or just move on to the last shadow and let this enderverse go Ender in shadow was kind of boring and I feel like I’m losing interest overtime Should I give the formic wars series a try? Is it worth it?

Hey everyone, I just bought an digital version of shadows in flight in my native language, and I want to understand if I have the standard version or the abridged one From some reason I don’t have the info of how many pages I got in my copy on kindle Could someone who has a physical copy of the book tell me how many chapters are there? I have 10 chapters in my copy Thanks!

My 12 year old is attempting to read Enders Game but is really struggling with how small the words are in the book. Anyone know where I can get a large print edition for him?

So my wife recently read Ender's Game and enjoyed it. Speaker for the Dead was on hold so she decided to read Ender's Shadow next.

After a couple days she told me that she finished it. I was surprised that she finished it so fast, and she told me that the audio book was only like 5 hours long.

Turns out she listened to the abridged version. Does anyone here know any key differences or missing details from the abridged version? Much appreciated

For context I've finished the main and shadow series, I'm trying to get my head around the reading order for Formic Wars and Fleet School and other stories. But I've forgotten some details from earlier books.

IIRC humans got a lot of their space tech from the first formic invasion - artificial gravity fields, highly efficient engines that help you get to near relativistic speeds etc. This is discussed by Mazer and/or Graff in the scenes near the end of Ender's Game (Or possibly Ender's Shadow) where they talk about the fleets en route to the Formic worlds but I don't recall if they got the Ansible tech from the Formics or just discussed it in the same conversation.

But part of the mystery of the formic wars was their discovery that Formic ships had no radio transmitters or communication technology, they didn't need it because the hive mind could communicate telepathically. So logically the formic ships wouldn't need any technological form of ansible because their brains can do it already.

Did the humans make the Ansible themselves then? Or is it an indirect process, perhaps some principle of high energy physics associated with the ships' engines lead to the research that invented the ansible? Or did they work it out from autopsies of the Formic brains somehow?

When I first read enders game, I loved it. I mean love. It introduced me to the living intellectual world and a level emotional depth i had never encountered before. From the VERY FIRST words Bean uttered in the book, I decided that I he was my favorite. Then I read Ender's Shadow.

As represented in Ender's Game, Bean is whip-smart and knows it. He is overconfident, unafraid. That is exactly what makes him so lovable to ender. This tiny little kid, talking like nothing scares him. He is fiercely protective of ender and loyal, as shown when he leads to charge to protect him from Bonzo. He is the type to stand on tables and make speeches. He is the type to make himself known when he walks into a room, despite his size. Ender's shadow doesn't reflect this at all, and you know it.

The way he was made, Bean was completely unlikeable and unrelatable. He was a tired copy of ender with less emotional depth. He had no flaws. His boring inner monolouges didn't reflect his action whatsoever.

On top of all this, the writing was a wreck. There was little to no dialouge. Half of it was him complaining about how no one would take him seriously because he is short. There is sooo much telling over showing. It felt like Orson didn't even want to write it, he just wanted to get it written. Re-read it and youll agree with me, guarantee.

Heres how it should have been written:

Bean is unafraid, but not just of other's action. Of their opinions. That would have aligned with his role as Ender's wacky idea man. He should have wanted to prove himself, and that should have been SHOWN, not just TOLD. He should have been bold to authority, even in his own mind. One of his arcs should have been learning how to properly hold his tounge. He should have constantly had retorts in his mind to others, even if he never said them. He should have been a little weird. His backstory should've been something that effected him deep down but he had no real feelings for. He should have been able to joke about his trauma. He should have a little mindlessly mean to those stupider than him, not becuase he meant to, but because he didn't realise he was being mean. He should have been firecly loyal to nikolai for the kindness nikolai gave him. He should have had vulnerable moments with nikiloai that actually brought them closer together realistically. His intellegence should have come to him more naturally. It felt forced. He should have relied more on his intuition. He should have stood up to people more, that would make sense because of how he was able to stand up FOR people in ender's game.

If it was written like that, it would have aligned with the first book. It would have been beutiful. Everyone would like bean, (as in the readers, not neccecarily the other characters in the book) even if they hated him a little too. He would have been gojo before gojo. I dont care if it makes me a nerd, and I dont care that i could never write anything remotely as good as it if i tried.

Enders Shadow belongs in the trash.

Please, somebody, prove me wrong.

I finally read The Last Shadow. I was very curious, but frankly, in my opinion, it's all over the place.

I found it nearly impossible to suspend my disbelief with the >!talking birds!< , and completely lost hold of it when I learned that >!the birds selectively bred *themselves* for intelligence!<. I mean, come on.

It also felt that Card wasn't even making the effort this time. The story was, again - in my opinion, very dull and the characters very shallow. Even Jane.

It had almost no redeeming quality, except maybe the scene with >!Thulium and her mother!< which was bittersweet.

I love that universe, and this is the first book that I didn't really cared for.