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THE GUNSLINGER: MOHAINE by Michael Whelan
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I am just about to finish Wizard and Glass on my second time through the series. I started to consider a possible theory that I have only found to be more believable as I read on. Through the series, there are countless references to the fact that time is unreliable. It can jump forward without warning, and one night can feel like weeks. My theory is that the timeline in Roland’s world is dependent on the reader’s pace. As we make it through chunks of the books faster and slower, so their time moves. Time tends to move faster or get back on track when the reader is apt to be more engaged, like when reading of the events of that Reap day in book 4. It also explains the ending of the series, as the reader is bound to re-read at some point, setting Roland on his endless loop.
Hile, friends!
So, everyone is always tossing around ideas for who they want to see play Roland & Co., The Man in Black, etc. But who do you want to see playing the non-main characters? Who's your pick to play characters like Sheemie, Mordred, Alice, and The Crimson King? Who should voice Blaine and Andy the Messenger Robot (Many Other Functions)?
So it’s been many years since I’ve read the series but one question keeps repeating in my mind…spoilers ahead and I don’t know how to hide the text so be forewarned.
After the ka-tet free Patrick Danville and realize his ability to alter reality with his drawings why didn’t they have him fix Roland’s missing fingers? Feels like that would have been an obvious and straightforward thing to do. I mean, if he can draw a door into existence why not his fingers? Maybe I’m missing something but it’s bothered me for years.
Thought on the topic are appreciated.
Thankee
"We all die in time. It's not just the world that moves on........but we are going to be magnificent."
After almost 10 years since my last journey, I had forgotten so much about book II - even the entire Pusher chapters. Part of me was happy about this as it was just like experiencing it for the first time.
I can, however, remember slightly more about book III: Shardik; Lud; The Trashcan Man; Richard Fannin; and of course, Blain. He really is a pain.
So I’ve had numerous issues posting the last several days… anyone else?? Will #moderator get eyes on this post?
If it posts… lol
Spoilers for both The Gunslinger and Revival below.
Ever since my first trip to the tower years ago, I have always wondered what it is that Allie learned once she said “nineteen” to Nort. I’ve turned it over in my mind so many different times, yet none of the answers I came up with felt right to me for some reason.
Now I finally have a head canon that feels right - I believe that Allie learned the truth of the afterlife as portrayed in Revival. The description of the afterlife in that book was so perfectly horrifying that it stuck with me, and I keep thinking about how it would feel to really have that knowledge. I think it would drive me insane.
To be clear, I’m not saying that I think SK was thinking about Revival when he first wrote The Gunslinger, or even that the two have any actual connection. However, many (all?) of SK’s books link back to the Tower in some way, so it doesn’t seem ridiculous to bridge the two in my mind.
Has anyone else had similar thoughts about this? Just curious if many SK fans make this mental connection, or if this seems like a decent head canon.
I’m completely shook by the ending, and it’s having a fish hook effect on me. I need recommendations on what to read next by King that connects into his Dark Tower saga. Other than reading one Richard Bachman book, I am largely unfamiliar with his books.
Very specifically I have a question/thought about Irene Tassenbaum. Before she drives Roland to NY, she stops at home to leave a note for husband David, who she claims invented the internet. We learn that the name of his company is Positronics.
This must be connected to North Central Positronics, which is a tool/weapon of the Crimson King.
What do you make of the connection between the Tassenbaums and the fate of the Tower. One partner in the marriage may potentially be an aide to Big Red and the other an agent of Gan.
And wonder if there is any symbolism to read in these connections.
Thankee sais for reading and for considering my question, may it do ya. Long days and pleasant nights.
I saw this tower in Massachusetts a few years ago while I was moving and I never found out exactly where it was or what it’s official name was.
Born on 10/9, husband is 19 yrs older than me, 19 letters in my full name, my street address adds up to it, my cars license plate does too. It’s everywhere.
If you were hired as writer for Mike Flanagan's Dark Tower how would you do it any what changes would you make?
Myself I go back and forth on The Gunslinger book. Its a weird length, it could either be a 2 part movie for HBO then rest of the books be 10 episode season. or a short 5 episode series.
for fun to learn the keybinds and features of Final Draft I adapted The Gunslinger to a feature length screenplay. While writing my thought was change the Preacher Woman to Carmody from The Mist.
Thoughts?
4th try to post…
Reddit keeps blocking for some reason. 🤞🏼 it posts this one.
I'm halfway through the final book. Pretty steeped in language and lore. I try to keep it in around the fam lest I embarrass myself, but I told my wife this morning we needed to palaver about some chores, projects, and next steps in the house, and she was like "We need to f*cking what?!"
I need more details about him. How he does what he does, where is he from, his timeline, etc. Please, I'm so curious
The beams were falling apart, yeah? In It, we are told that the universe was thrown up by the turtle. What if wach beam is universe, holding the tower up. The tower is what keeps rolands world alive. As the tower is dying, the world is too. Why are the beams failing? Look to the other books. Uncouth beings and forces are within them, breaking the down. The Stand, its Randall flagg/the man in black. He wishes to see all worlds fall. Or It, in direct opposition to the turtle. They arent in the same universe, theyre all connected by the tower. The tower drags people to its world, in a desperate attempt to save itself. With each redo that roland is sent through, he has another chance and gets closer to saving it. The tower makes small changes each time, hoping each tiny piece is the key to his success, adding more and more. It doesnt have the power to do more than a tiny change each run, giving him more and more to use. They travel to the different worlds in the books, the ending for susannah showing that there isnt just one. Theyre all colliding and the walls separating them are falling apart, as the beams fail and the tower falls. Its all one big wheel, with the spokes falling apart. Thats why they bring up ka so much. Hes bound to go round and round, holding that wheel together.
Definitely off topic, but not entirely.
Back in 1974, on April 25th, there was a revolution in Portugal to overthrow a fascist regime. Decades past, people seem to overlook the signs that out that regime in power. It's defenders are often mocked because of their persistent use of the line "25 de Abril sempre!" , which directly translates to "April 25th forever!"
Watching this sketch after reading the Tower makes me wish my ancestors had made the revolution a few days earlier.
Thoughts on Stephen King saying he’s back in the Territories last month? I read Black House before finishing DT and had never read Talisman. Now that I’ve read them both and made all the connections my mind is bursting with the possibilities.