/r/TheDarkTower
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First come smiles, then lies, [last is gunfire.](/spoiler)
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THE GUNSLINGER: MOHAINE by Michael Whelan
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All I can say is nothing could’ve prepared me for the Crimson King to be some kind of Santa Clause figure, happily throwing explosive sneetches and going Eeeeeeeeeeee!!!
wtf.
In all seriousness though I feel like this was a good ending. I wish I had listened to King and stopped reading after Susannah reunited with Jake & Eddie…but noooo. I just HAD to walk with Roland to the top.
I think it really hits hard if you’re someone who’s struggled with obsession & addiction, who’s tried to reach a different ending by walking the same path over and over again. Regardless of how many friends you’ve lost or hurt along the way.
Back to the beginning of the path I go! I might not read this again for a little while but I’m excited to do it in the future.
Kept thinking of Clancy when reading
currently on wizards and glass. I bought salems lot and want to read it before it becomes relevant in the series, which book is it that relates to it?
*Sorry mods i don't see a tag that works.
Don't you love when you are many years late to an amazing piece of media? It seems like a longshot but just wondering if anyone else is reading The Waste Lands currently and wanted to discuss.
Found this in my local corner store lol Fruity flavoured Ka GET SOME so long it's not Ka-Ka ;)
Does anyone have a playlist of Dark Tower songs? I've been trying to compile one that includes all songs, not just those in the main Beam, but also the ones that come from connecting levels of the Tower. Also any fan reproductions of made up songs(e.g. The Rice Song) Thankee-sai for any help; long days and pleasant nights!
I read the full DT series perhaps 2 years ago and since then have read The Talisman, Black House and just finished The Stand. I have seen SO many people on here talking about how they've read the series multiple times, so while crippled by indecision as to which DT universe book to start next, I decided to start my second journey to the tower. I'm only a little ways in, specifically in Roland's telling of his experience in Tull to his host in the desert. I am already FLOORED at how packed these first pages have been with significance to the whole story - things I couldn't have known as a first time reader, of course, but I'm just still so blown away and excited!
I wish I could take notes, etc., but I listen during my commute which is not conducive to note-taking, lol!
The funny thing is that I never thought about re-reading the series the same way that I think of rewatching a very cerebral TV series (which I love doing) and I'm flabbergasted that this concept hadn't dawned on me!
Anyway, there's no real point to this post, other than to share my unexpected enthrallment on my second journey and to encourage others to do the same!
I’ll start: Josh Allen.
I just don’t understand why. Why did the industry do this? What a colossal misfire. There were so many ways to approach adapting The Dark Tower without completely derailing its essence. For instance, you could’ve started with Wizard and Glass as the foundation—it’s rich with backstory and emotional depth, and it sets up Roland’s character in a way that would hook a general audience right away. Imagine the first season exploring Gilead’s fall and Roland’s tragic past, with flashbacks woven throughout the series to keep the tension alive.
I prefer this: The first episode of Season 1 could open with Roland abandoning Jake to the depths of the mountains-a gut-punch moment that immediately raises questions and draws viewers in. Then, dive into the tarot reading/visions: visually stunning, mysterious, and full of intrigue. From there, jump straight into the lobstrocities and The Drawing of the Three. Eddie is the key to selling the audience on this world—his dynamic with Roland is electric, and it’s the perfect entry point for newcomers. You don’t need to spend a whole season building up Jake’s story when he doesn’t fully come into play until The Waste Lands. Why waste time on exposition that’s just going to sit on the back burner?
And let’s be honest: as much as we love The Gunslinger, its strength lies in rereads. That iconic opening line is legendary, but starting a TV series with the first book en Toto. It’s a risk. I would just start with Tarot and then Drawing as Season 1. I think you do the gunslinger in 1 episode opening up season 2 and the Jake story Wastelands. Wizard and glass will be season 3. Wolves and Song of Susanna Season 4. Dark Tower Season 5 for a total of 50 episodes.
Story time, Sai;
A friend and I started a Dark Tower movie podcast in anticipation for the filming of 2017's... "movie".
We were super excited about it and lined up fun guests, secured interviews at comiccon (I work in Hollywood), recorded and released a first episode and everything was looking 19!
Then an actor friend of mine randomly told me that he was auditioning for a role in the movie and had a script that I could read. Of course I leapt at the chance!
I got half a page in before I realized we were doomed :)
My podcast co-host read the script and we made an executive decision to cancel the podcast after week one :)
It would have been impossible to report on the making of this thing knowing what direction it was gonna go in.
That being said, I was left with a moral conundrum at the time; do I warn this sub that the movie was gonna be a complete piece of shit or did I let everyone be excited for another year?
I went with the former and just bit my tongue because dashing everyone's hopes, even if I knew they were faulty just seemed like a really cruel thing to do
randomly thought about that abomination of a movie today and it got me thinking; I wonder if I did the right thing?
Should I have whistle blown? It wouldn't have changed the outcome obviously but maybe people would've lowered their expectations and felt a little less hurt by the finished product?
This is not very important, but I'm a little stoned and just curious :)
Hey fam, I could use a favor. I read the first couple DT books like ten years ago. Getting through the gunslinger was HARD for me, it literally took me picking it up and getting half way through it 3 times before I finally was able to finish it. I didn't like it at all, its boring as hell, but I remember LOVING the next two books and I really want to get back in and finish the series but I WILL NOT put myself through the gunslinger again.
I'm afraid to read the wikipedia page for it in case it spoils things for later in the series, can anyone give me a quick rundown of what was actually important for the rest of the series from book 1, OR can someone vet the wikipedia page for me to let me know if It is spoiler ridden. I've made it all these years without having things spoiled for me from the later books, I really don't want to fuck it up now.
I finished my first journey and had to watch this movie lol. What a sight
Somewhere in Book 7 the Ka-Tet begins to experience Ka-Shum. The feeling that the Ka-Tet will break soon. If I remember correctly, that is the first time they feel it. But at that point the Ka-Tet was already robbed of one member. Pere Callahan was said to be a member of the Ka-Tet. Before he died in the Dixie Pig nobody felt anything coming and the Ka-Tet was still intact. Did I miss something?
In the sixth book, song of Susana, eddie drive and thinks about how much he misses it. What are the chances he ever owned a car or even drove? How many poor people in that time period had cars in New York?
I’m just finishing wizard and glass and have a question. If Roland is age 14 when he learns about and becomes obsessed with the dark tower, and a google search tells me that he is over 330 years old does that mean he has been unsuccessfully looking for the tower for over 300 years? He doesn’t really know what the tower is, what it does, or what he needs to do when he finds it. I think most people would give up after 200 years.
Should i do Insomnia, Salem’s Lot, or the Running Man first?? Excited for both
So far I've read:
All DT books The Talisman Black House The Stand (just finished that one yesterday)
I'm thinking Salem's Lot or Eye of the Dragon. Want to stay in the DT universe.
Would love input!
Thanks to u/CyberGhostface for giving me a list of recommended books to read before completing the series like a year ago. That last book hits like a truck, I don't even know where to start with my thoughts on it lol. I think Roland got a horrible (the worst?) ending being forced to chase the dark tower forever, also i don't understand the meaning behind him having cuthberts horn with him the second time around.
I hate to say it but I think Oys death was the saddest of the bunch, I can't pinpoint exactly why but I think it's the complete depression he seemed to go into when Jake died, like the idea of him wanting to lay on jake's grave until he died is heartbreaking but he got up and moved on and accepted his given duties and then choosing to stay with "Olan" at the end knowing it would probably kill him.
Idk how I feel about Susannah's exit, I am glad she and the other Jake and Eddies got a happy ending but it just felt very false to me which is a weird thing to say about a fictional book but i don't know how else to put it.
Im gonna cut it off here cuz i feel like I could just keep rambling about all the different bits and pieces of the story lol, i will end with saying that my favorite book was Wizards and Glass, Susan's death was definitely the saddest part in all these books imo
Not that a TV or movie series is even remotely possible, it's more so who I picture in my head as I continue through the series (currently at the beginning of Wizard and Glass). Anyone agree? Or vehemently disagree? Let's palaver!
Roland
Eddie
Susannah
Ik 19 is how old Stephen King was when he started writing it, but what if the number is the how many times Roland’s gone thru the tower, and the next spin with the horn the numbers will all be 20
Came across this in an article on msn, worlds are thin on overnight shifts