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Discussion of all things Babylon 5

Welcome to /r/Babylon5!

Babylon 5 is a sci-fi space opera that ran from 1994 to 1999. Pitched as "a five year story, a novel for television," Babylon 5 featured a serialized story before it was common for primetime television to do so.

The serialized nature of Babylon 5 means it is eminently spoilable. If you have not seen Babylon 5 but are interested, you may encounter spoilers here. You've been warned!

Watch Online

Babylon 5 is available on HBO Max.

It can also be purchased on iTunes, Google Play, and YouTube:

Subreddit rules

This subreddit is lightly moderated. That said, piracy and hate speech will not be tolerated. Posts and comments containing these things will be removed and repeat offenders will be banned.

Spoiler tags are not mandatory but are encouraged when the thread starter requests it. The spoiler syntax is:

>! Spoiler goes here

Flair

If you are watching the show for the first time, and want the rest of us to know, select one of the first five flairs options; these are the logos of all five Babylon stations.

Babylon Station will tell other users that you are watching Season 1 for the first time. Babylon 2 will tell us that you have not watched any further than season 2. And so forth with Seasons 3, 4, 5 (the yellow 5).

Seasoned fans of the show can dig in and display their bias with flair for their alien government or faction.

Other Resources

/r/Babylon5Gifs

It's like the Zocalo, but for gifs.

Wikipedia on Babylon 5

Wikipedia's article on Babylon 5 is very detailed.

The Lurkers Guide to Babylon 5

This is the definitive resource for Babylon 5. All episodes, all movies, commentary from the creator. It was updated in real time as Babylon 5 originally aired.

/u/mpierre's Guide to Babylon 5

A guide to Babylon 5 episodes, and their importance, by head moderator /u/mpierre.

JMSNews

News from J. Michael Straczynski, the creator of Babylon 5.

Denn'bok / Minbari Fighting Pike

Please note that a Comet will appear if, within one Earth-month, multiple users post revelations of the existence of this product.

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Zathras Word Cloud

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2024/12/12
10:10 UTC

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I’m sure I’ve seen this before somewhere

4 Comments
2024/12/12
09:32 UTC

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It’s been almost 30 years and I just noticed she’s eating with cooking chopsticks

40 Comments
2024/12/12
06:43 UTC

51

Just watched the king Arthur episode

Always a tear jerker. Poor man needed so much therapy. At the end of the episode, Marcus says that Sheridan is Arthur and kosh is merlin, then asks who Morgana is... morgana, who in some depictions seduces Arthur and betrays him. Coincidence or foreshadowing?

18 Comments
2024/12/11
22:31 UTC

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Tubi, are you ok?

I'm re-watching B5 on Tubi. Well, trying to. Every 20 or 30 seconds there's a digital stutter. Very annoying.

No other streaming program or movie has the same issue.

Just me?

8 Comments
2024/12/11
21:48 UTC

481

Look who’s on Babylon five

Who knew Bryan Cranston was on Babylon 5

106 Comments
2024/12/11
21:33 UTC

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First time watcher.

I'm about 1.5 episodes in.. currently watching Soul Hunter s01e02.

I love trek (especially DS9), BSG, The Expanse.

Is it like Star Trek where the first couple seasons need work and gets better? I don't want to give up on it yet.

Please take no offense from this question because I know what it's like to have someone not like a show I love.

68 Comments
2024/12/11
20:28 UTC

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Question/thought about Zathras

I was rewatching (yet again) Babylon 5 (S01E20) and Zathras uses the phrase "We live for the One. We would die for the One." He explains to Commander Sinclair and Garibaldi that "The One leads us. The One tells us to go, we go." I'm guessing its expounded on more in a book, or something somewhere and I'm probably totally wrong but was Zathras supposed to be a ranger from some distant point in time? We are never given much about Zathras, but could the whole point of the Great Machine on Epsilon III have been rangers fixing the timeline to create galactic peace? >!We know the rangers extend far into the future even after earth is thrown back into a stone age; also that one of the main points of the great machine was to open a rift and transport Babylon 4 back in time to allow the Minbari to defeat the shadows 10,000 years in the past, and aid in the genetic transformation of Jeffrey SInclair from his human self into a Minbari not born of Minbar whom became Valen. !<I'm sure I'm overlooking some huge facts that I'm not thinking about but was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me?

41 Comments
2024/12/11
06:25 UTC

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Great British Bab-Off

My wife and I usually like to watch a cooking show of some sort with dinner. We're currently working on The Great British Bakeoff. The episode we watched tonight, for the technical challenge the bakers needed to make garibaldi biscuits. That prompted my wife to want to watch a different show afterwards... So, time to start a rewatch!

12 Comments
2024/12/10
23:19 UTC

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Did anyone else have a VHS tape with the wrong episodes on it?

Back in the late 90s I had all of Babylon 5 on VHS but there was a mistake in Season 3. The tape labelled as "Ceremonies Of Light And Dark" and "Sic Transit Vir" was actually "Ceremonies Of Light And Dark" and "A Late Delivery From Avalon". For some reason they put the wrong episode on the tape. Everything on the box said it would have Sic Transit Vir but that's not what was on the tape. And the next tape in sequence was "A Later Delivery From Avalon" and "Ship Of Tears". So that episode was just skipped.

This was the legitimate VHS tapes with all the adverts and copyright warnings at the start, it wasn't pirate video. That episode was just considered lost for me for a few years until it was repeated on TV at 4am and I managed to set up my VCR to record it. Of all the episodes of Season 3 to miss out this is one of the most skippable, it's got some important character moments in it but Londo demands a coverup and that no one discuss it ever again.

Did anyone else have this misprint?

9 Comments
2024/12/10
19:40 UTC

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Why is season 1 such a slog?

Don’t get me wrong, B5 is one of my favorite shows from my childhood.

But I’m honestly shocked that the show ever made it past season 1. The pilot movie is boring, and season 1 is so slow and dull.

It’s certainly a lot easier to get through when you can binge watch, and also knowing that things pick up in season 2, but during the original broadcast when you had to wait a week in between each episode and didn’t know what was in store down the road, I can’t imagine this show keeping my interest. Like earlier seasons of DS9, a super episodic show just hanging around on a space station is just… boring.

Many years ago when I did a watch through on some bootleg DVD’s I told myself that at least season 1 is important because it sets up a lot of future story arcs.

But upon rewatching again recently on Amazon, I realize that that isn’t even very true.

Of all of season 1, there’s only a few episodes that are actually important to the overall story arc:

  • the one where Mr. Morden first shows up

  • the one with Babylon 4

  • the season finale

  • honorable mentions: the one where we first see Bester, and the one where draal gets hooked up to the great machine

Most are just extremely episodic “problem of the week” episodes with nothing relating to the overall story arc outside of light character building and light world building. Like, you don’t need an entire season just to establish that Narns and Centauri hate each other and that Ivonova and garibaldi are both different flavors of hardass.

So if JMS had his plan for the show from the start, why did it take so long for the show to pick up steam? Why didn’t he add more serial elements earlier in the show and get the show off to a faster start?

60 Comments
2024/12/10
13:55 UTC

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Centauri alphabet resources

So I'm undertaking a really ridiculous project that involves multiple alphabets from Babylon 5. I have Vorlon, Shadow, Narn, and Minbari, but I need a Centauri one. The windswords thing did not work for me for whatever reason. I also kind of need it asap. I can get the other versions done first, but I'm on a Christmas deadline. If anyone has just a basic Centauri alphabet that would be a huge help.

2 Comments
2024/12/10
08:47 UTC

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Wait, MORDEN WAS IN B5 OPS??

Holy forking shirt, how did I NOT NOTICE in "The Gathering" the person working the scanning and jump gate station was MISTER MORDEN???

I mean, I've watched this HOW MANY TIMES and it's not like it isn't blatantly obvious...

Feeling a bit ashamed at the moment...

EDIT: Before EVERYONE IN THE SUBREDDIT piles on with "That's Ed Wasser, not Morden," I KNOW THAT. I was trying to be tongue-in-cheek...come on, now.

48 Comments
2024/12/10
05:28 UTC

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Inverse: "The Most Groundbreaking Sci-Fi Show of the ‘90s is Still Worth Watching" | "The dawn of modern TV started here." | "Nobody could excuse Babylon 5 of being squeaky-clean like The Next Generation, but the brilliance is that the show isn’t hardcore dark or anything like that either."

Ryan Britt (Inverse) on the enduring appeal of Babylon 5:

"[...] Created and largely written by J. Michael Straczynski, Babylon 5 focuses on humans and aliens living on the eponymous space station, trying to stop, or win, various space wars. Before DS9, Battlestar, or The Sopranos made serialization the norm, Babylon 5 presented massive season-long arcs. Yes, there were a few stand-aloneish episodes, but even when you go back and watch those ones (“Gropos,” “TKO,” et al.) you’ll find interconnections and world-building details that are relevant to the entire series in each.

Much has been written and said about Babylon 5’s fascinating and bold serialization. You’ve also probably heard that this series is steeped in science fiction lore, so much so that you could begin your sci-fi education with Babylon 5 as your rosetta stone. But what perhaps doesn’t get said enough is just how goofy, messy, human, and real the characters are throughout the series. Nobody could excuse Babylon 5 of being squeaky-clean like The Next Generation, but the brilliance is that the show isn’t hardcore dark or anything like that either.

Starting in 1993, the same year as Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, one space-based sci-fi show dared to do what was then the unthinkable. Instead of making its space heroes seem cool, slick, or collected, Babylon 5 took a more straightforward approach: what if these characters weren’t role models, but just regular people? All five seasons of this groundbreaking show have just returned to Amazon Prime Video, and if you’ve slept on Babylon 5 over the years, or it's been a while since you’ve watched, one reason to revisit it is its subtle yet essential groundedness.

While some sci-fi folks like to think of Deep Space Nine as an underdog TV series, forever in the shadow of The Next Generation, there were a whole host of other ‘90s sci-fi shows that were underdogs relative to the Trek franchise. As much as DS9 might have felt like the country cousin within the Trek franchise, there were all sorts of other sci-fi shows that were even more underrated. And if you’re looking for a starter pack of underrated but excellent ‘90s sci-fi TV shows, you’ll put Sliders and seaQuest, on that list. But, you’ll also find that Babylon 5 has probably aged the best, and because it's a big, bold space opera, it's the only ‘90s sci-fi TV series that gave the Trek franchise a run for its money.

Take a character like Susan Ivanova (Claudia Christian). She’s a tough-as-nails second-in-command to the space station, but being a hardass is also, refreshingly, not her entire personality. Beloved by fans for her quips (“I'm in the middle of 15 things, all of them annoying”), Ivanova was also the kind of person who got a drink with her colleagues when she was worried about one of them. Speaking of drinking, then you’ve got Michael Garibaldi (Jerry Doyle), the security chief, who, at first, you think is coded to be like an outer space version of Bruce Willis from Moonlighting, until you realize he’s a recovering alcoholic, a fantastic detective, and also a huge fan of Daffy Duck.

The fact that Garibaldi has a massive poster of Daffy Duck in his quarters is also a low-key microcosm of the brilliance of Babylon 5. It’s not cool to be a full-grown adult with a massive poster of Daffy Duck in your house, but it is admirable. Garibaldi doesn’t really care what you think of him and his Daffy Duck poster, but then again, maybe he does because, as we get to know him, we find that he’s deeply insecure, super paranoid, and often correct to assume there are various sci-fi conspiracies happening around him.

To be clear, these are just two characters in Babylon 5, and one might argue they’re not even “main” characters. But the thing about B5 is that by and large, all the characters are written exceptionally well. This isn’t to say you’ll like all the characters, or that you’ll even relate to each of their quirks, jokes, hopes, and dreams. [...]"

Full article (Inverse):

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/sci-fi-shows-december-2024-amazon-prime-babylon-5

46 Comments
2024/12/09
22:01 UTC

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Re-watching and this made me lol

In the scene in the council chambers, in season one, regarding the narn invasion of ragasgh 4 at the climax of the scene, after Londos nephew Karn reads his statement, g'kar, after a big passionate speech, asks for the league to dismiss the charges against the narn, and asks if there is a second to his motion.

Cut to a static shot of the league of non aligned worlds, and, after a delay, this random unnamed guy (i had to google the species it's a "llort") awkwardly raises his hand. And, it was really funny. 😂

18 Comments
2024/12/09
20:48 UTC

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“The Minbari are Space Elves!” Oh, the Minbari are Space Elves all right. (Silmarillion Gang rise up!)

55 Comments
2024/12/09
14:40 UTC

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So did these two ever actually meet before this?

I mean, don’t get me wrong, Meester Fucking Morden being the guy to tell Lennier he’s being a creepy asshole is deeply hilarious and highly fitting, but I don’t think the two even spoke one word to each other prior to the Day of the Dead. Hell, he had more to say to Garibaldi than Lennier.

46 Comments
2024/12/09
14:16 UTC

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Jeremiah

Hi folks!

Anyone seen JMS's other show, Jeremiah?

Just started it and the 2 ep length pilot is so good, but I went to play the 3rd episode and it's clearly out of order. Read online the 5th should be watched after the pilot, but that's clearly out of order too.

Anyone watched and know the actual viewing order?

7 Comments
2024/12/09
11:45 UTC

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Just finished my first watch

Over the years I’ve seen the pilot episode multiple times, but haven’t been able to follow through the whole way. Can’t believe how much I had been missing. I’ve been watching on Tubi (switched to amazon prime for season 5).

Watching now and knowing what Michael O’Hare was going through off screen in season 1, the flawless switch to Sheridan, the incredible character performances throughout, the shadow war, the responses to fascism… I know I’m 30 years late to the party but I must tip my hat to the Babylon 5 team.

19 Comments
2024/12/09
04:14 UTC

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Are you rewatching on Amazon prime?

I'm so glad it is back!!!

51 Comments
2024/12/09
02:03 UTC

242

Im so sick of that smarmy mother fucker

17 Comments
2024/12/09
00:35 UTC

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I'm working my way through voices. What is your favorite Babylon 5 novel ?

15 Comments
2024/12/08
23:44 UTC

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"Very sad life. Probably have a very sad death. At least there is symmetry!"

38 Comments
2024/12/08
20:19 UTC

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Fan-Edit of Babylon 5 (Sherlocked Edition) 15 of 16 - The Wheel of Fire

Hi, all!

I'm making a fan-edit of Babylon 5, sourced from the 4:3 remaster, and adapting it to a new format using the episode structure from Sherlock.

Sherlock, if you're not familiar, has an interesting and unconventional episode structure. Each season has just three episodes — but, each episode is 90 minutes (1h 30m) long. Which means each season of Sherlock is ultimately a trilogy of movies.

My goal with this fan-edit is to make a version of Babylon 5 that fits that same episode structure, where each season is a trilogy of 90-minute movies. Each movie-episode builds on what came before but still aims to tell a self-contained and movie-like story, with cohesive themes and a resolved ending.

If you're new to Babylon 5 and want to try it for the first time, then this version is more accessible and moves at a faster pace. It is condensed and reordered while staying true to the spirit of the original work. If you enjoy it and want more, the full show is currently free to watch on Tubi, and I encourage everyone to support the show.

Or if you're already an existing fan, then this version is a fresh way to experience the show. I didn't copy any episode verbatim, and A-stories and B-stories throughout each season are split apart and recombined in novel ways. I changed the S4 finale, for one example, to follow the plan JMS intended if he knew he would get a S5.

Newly released and ready for your entertainment is Season 5 Episode 2 of 3: The Wheel of Fire

If you like it, please show your support. Enjoy!

Go to download page.

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One: Signs and Portents

S1E1 Midnight on the Firing Line (1:29:54)

Welcome to Babylon 5! (The Gathering) When the Narn attack a Centauri colony, Londo and G'Kar nearly come to blows (Midnight on the Firing Line, Chrysalis), but Londo receives help from a mysterious stranger (Signs and Portents). Meanwhile, Garibaldi investigates an unauthorized use of a communications channel (Born to the Purple), and a Rabbi helps Ivanova come to terms with her father's death (TKO). Also, ambassador Kosh hires telepath Talia Winters to oversee an unusual negotiation (Deathwalker).

S1E2 By Any Means Necessary (1:30:50)

An accident in the docking area threatens to spark an illegal strike (By Any Means Necessary), while Sinclair is forced to protect a notorious war criminal who has invented an immortality serum (Deathwalker). Meanwhile, the station hosts a week-long festival where humans and aliens demonstrate their religious beliefs (The Parliament of Dreams), Londo interferes in an important Narn religious observation (By Any Means Necessary), and Dr. Franklin intercedes when a family refuses life-saving surgery because of their religious beliefs (Believers). Also, Catherine Sakai wants to survey a promising planet but G'Kar warns her to stay away (Mind War).

S1E3 The War Prayer (1:31:12)

Garibaldi makes a discovery that could cost him his life (Chrysalis, Revelations), and he's blamed for an act of sabotage ahead of the President's visit, which leads to hitting the bottle after a prolonged abstinence (Survivors). Meanwhile, a violent attack on a Minbari poet leaves Sinclair scrambling to flush out a vicious pro-Earth group (The War Prayer), and Talia's old Psi Corps instructor is on the run from Psi-Cops (Mind War). Also, Londo takes Lennier for a look at the less savory sections of the station (The Quality of Mercy).

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Two: The Coming Of Shadows

S2E1 Divided Loyalties (1:29:24)

A fugitive with sensitive information about the Earth government flees to Babylon 5 (Hunter Prey), Bester investigates an underground railroad of rogue telepaths (A Race Through Dark Places), and Lyta Alexander returns with a warning (Divided Loyalties). Meanwhile, a new commander assumes control of the station (Points of Departure), and Delenn undergoes a mysterious change before the Grey Council decides her fate (Babylon Squared, Chrysalis, Revelations, All Alone in the Night). Also, a new Earth Alliance agency tries to recruit station personnel (In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum), and General Hague makes an unofficial visit (All Alone in the Night).

S2E2 Acts of Sacrifice (1:30:34)

The Centauri Emperor visits the station, while Londo and Refa plot (The Coming of Shadows), and Babylon 5 is embroiled in a deadly conflict between the Narn and Centauri, while an ISN reporter covers the story (And Now For a Word). Meanwhile, G'Kar asks Sheridan and Delenn to intervene militarily on behalf of the Narn (Acts of Sacrifice), before the Narn/Centauri War reaches a turning point (The Long Twilight Struggle).

S2E3 The Long Twilight Struggle (1:30:08)

A Narn warcruiser seeks help from Babylon 5, Earth takes a position on the Centauri, and Kosh takes a drastic step to save a life (The Fall of Night). Meanwhile, Ivanova is given a diplomatic assignment when the Drazi divide by random selection (The Geometry of Shadows), a fatal disease spreads among the Markab population (Confessions and Lamentations), and Sheridan discovers a connection between Morden and the death of his wife (In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum). Also, Delenn asks Sheridan to dinner and they share a growing trust and respect (Divided Loyalties, A Race Through Dark Places, Soul Mates, Confessions and Lamentations, The Long Twilight Struggle).

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Three: Point of No Return

S3E1 Point of No Return (1:29:25)

As the Earth Alliance plunges toward civil war, the Senate investigates President Clark, the Nightwatch tightens its grip, and Zack's loyalties are put to the test (Voices of Authority, Messages from Earth, Point of No Return). When President Clark tries to seize control of Babylon 5 by force, Sheridan is faced with the prospect of severing the station's ties with Earth (Severed Dreams). Meanwhile, Delenn receives disturbing news from a Ranger (Severed Dreams), and Londo and G'Kar are trapped in an elevator (Convictions).

S3E2 Ship of Tears (1:31:20)

Sheridan and Ivanova try to gain recognition of the station's new status among the alien governments (A Late Delivery from Avalon), and they try to rally support as direct confrontation with the Shadows begins (Interludes and Examinations). Bester seeks Sheridan's help (Ship of Tears), and Sheridan receives a new tool in the fight against the Shadows (Matters of Honor). Meanwhile, Sheridan engages Kosh's interest and Kosh takes Sheridan for a lesson (Hunter Prey, There All the Honor Lies), Lyta Alexander returns to the station at Kosh's behest (Passing Through Gethsemane), and G'Kar uses a drug with telepathic effects (Dust to Dust). Also, Delenn plans a rebirth and renewal ceremony (Ceremonies of Light and Dark), and G'Kar presses for admission to the conspiracy of light (Ship of Tears).

S3E3 And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place (1:29:10)

Sheridan is consumed by his analysis of the Shadows' strategies (And the Rock Cried Out No Hiding Place), and he launches a pre-emptive strike against the Shadows (Shadow Dancing). Meanwhile, Londo severs his ties with Morden (Matters of Honor, Interludes and Examinations), presents Refa with an ultimatum (Ceremonies of Light and Dark), and uses G'Kar and Vir to gain power in the Centauri Royal Court (And the Rock Cried Out No Hiding Place). Also, a face from Sheridan's past takes him on a dangerous mission to meet his Shadow counterpart, as the Shadows mass a fleet against Babylon 5 (Z'ha'dum).

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Four: No Surrender, No Retreat

S4E1 Falling Toward Apotheosis (1:31:03)

When Londo discovers that Emperor Cartagia has struck a disturbing deal endangering Centauri Prime (The Hour of the Wolf), Londo and Vir scheme to kill Cartagia (The Long Night, Into the Fire). Meanwhile, G'Kar has been captured by the Centauri (Whatever Happened to Mr Garibaldi), and Londo makes G'Kar a promise in exchange for help overthrowing the Emperor (Falling Toward Apotheosis).

S4E2 Into the Fire (1:30:26)

Sheridan has returned to Babylon 5, seemingly back from the dead and accompanied by a mysterious stranger (Whatever Happened to Mr Garibaldi, The Summoning). The new Ambassador Kosh arrives (Walkabout), but the Vorlons step up their battle against the Shadows, and Garibaldi must remove Kosh from the station (Falling Toward Apotheosis). As the Army of Light prepares to strike, the Shadows unleash a terrible new weapon (The Long Night), before the Army of Light mounts its final assault (Into the Fire).

S4E3 The Illusion of Truth (1:30:51)

ISN comes back on air and sends a team to do a story about Babylon 5 (Ship of Tears, The Illusion of Truth). But Sheridan is compelled to act after receiving horrible news (Moments of Transition), and he mobilizes his forces to liberate Proxima 3 (No Surrender No Retreat). Meanwhile, the resistance's counter-propaganda broadcast begins (Conflicts of Interest), and Delenn tries to defuse a brewing Minbari civil war (Lines of Communication, Rumors Bargains and Lies, Moments of Transition).

S4E4 Intersections in Real Time (1:33:43)

Sheridan faces an inquisitor from Earthdome (Intersections in Real Time). Meanwhile, Garibaldi takes on a new job (Epiphanies, Conflicts of Interest) and travels to Mars to meet his secretive employer (The Exercise of Vital Powers, The Face of the Enemy).

JMS speaks: If I had known with absolute certainty that there would be a season 5, then season 4 would have ended with 418, "Intersections in Real Time."

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Five: The Wheel of Fire

S5E1 Rising Star (1:31:02)

Franklin and Marcus arrive on Mars to begin their undercover mission (Racing Mars), and they try to convince the leaders of the resistance to go along with Sheridan's plan to unseat Clark (Lines of Communication). Meanwhile, Garibaldi is captured by the Mars Resistance, and they launch a plan to free Sheridan (Between the Darkness and the Light). Sheridan's forces make their final strike (Endgame), and Earthgov decides his fate (Rising Star). Also, Londo tries to enlist G'Kar's aid in backing Sheridan against Earth, and Delenn makes a remarkable proposition to the League of Non-Aligned Worlds (No Surrender No Retreat, Rising Star, The Deconstruction of Falling Stars).

S5E2 The Wheel of Fire (1:30:28)

Londo suffers a serious heart attack and must face his greatest fear to survive (The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari). Meanwhile, attacks begin on Alliance ships (In the Kingdom of the Blind). Garibaldi goes to the Drazi homeworld to search for a witness (The Ragged Edge), and Lennier uncovers hard evidence about the source of the attacks (Darkness Ascending). Evidence of who is behind the attacks is revealed to the Alliance, and the situation escalates into war (And All My Dreams Torn Asunder). Lyta and Franklin visit the Drazi homeworld on a mission of mercy (Movements of Fire and Shadow), and Sheridan races to stop the Alliance ships from attacking Centauri Prime (The Fall of Centauri Prime).

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Editor's Notes: (SPOILERS! Ye be warned)

S1E1 Midnight on the Firing Line

  • This is the Shadow-centric episode of the season.
  • The story of the Narn attack at Raghesh III ("Midnight") and the story of the Narn attack at Quadrant 37 ("Chrysalis") are so similar that I merged them into a single narrative.
  • I used extra exterior shots and slowed music to stretch the suspense during the arrival of both Morden and Kosh.
  • One particular station shot appeared on the VHS covers once upon a time. In this fan-edit, after Rabbi Koslov refers to Babylon 5 as a great miracle, I cut to the VHS cover station shot.

S1E2 By Any Means Necessary

  • This is the filler episode of the season. The word "filler" has negative connotations, but I've come to appreciate standalone anthology-style stories.
  • The biggest storyline from the full show that didn't make the cut is Sinclair's mythology. In this fan-edit, there's no mention of his missing day, no time traveling B4, and no great machine. And meanwhile I just released this "filler" episode. Partly that's because Sinclair's mythology fell by the wayside after O'Hare left. Lennier answered the lingering mysteries in an exposition dump at the beginning of S2, and the two parter War Without End gives Sinclair's story an ending. Aside from those occasions, the story of Babylon 5 moved on without Sinclair. And partly because Babylon 5 is sometimes mind-bending sci-fi and sometimes a social commentary. I think the social commentary is what makes Babylon 5 both timeless and relevant, and I expect to favor those stories. That's why there's an episode about a worker strike and religion but not an episode about time travel.
  • This episode has a post-credit scene. No big plot, just a humorous cultural exchange that didn't fit anywhere else.

S1E3 The War Prayer

  • This is the Earth-centric episode of the season.
  • To tell a self-contained story and avoid cliffhangers, I pushed out Delenn's transformation and pulled in Garbaldi's recovery.
  • I cut Talia's gift from Ironheart, because in the full show it went unused and Lyta came back instead.

S3E2 Ship of Tears

  • This is Kosh's episode. I included Kosh's scenes even from S2, such as "one moment of perfect beauty."
  • I like that in this fan-edit, Kosh visits G'Kar only after agreeing to Sheridan's request. Once Kosh knows what's ahead, he finally decides to intervene and push G'Kar in a different direction.

S4E1 Falling Toward Apotheosis

  • To tell a self-contained story and avoid cliffhangers, I un-interleaved Londo's and Sheridan's story. This episode follows Londo on Centauri Prime and we see the climax of the Shadow War from Londo's perspective, then the next episode follows Sheridan on Babylon 5 and we see the climax of the Shadow War from Sheridan's perspective.

S4E2 Into the Fire

  • The full show packs a lot of story in the first six episodes of S4, so this one time only I'm breaking the rules of my own episode structure. Sherlocked S4 will get one extra episode, for a total of 4 episodes instead of 3.
  • I didn't want to start the episode with Lorien's Z'ha'dum scenes back to back to back, so instead I interleaved the Z'ha'dum scenes throughout the episode and re-framed it as a flashback.
  • A happy accident from interleaving the Z'ha'dum scenes is that we keep some mystery around Lorien and Sheridan even after their return, and we get to see Sheridan's return from Garibaldi's perspective: "He breezes in here, says he's back from the dead, feeling much better, thank you very much!"

S4E4 Intersections in Real Time

  • JMS speaks: If I had known with absolute certainty that there would be a season 5, then season 4 would have ended with 418, "Intersections in Real Time."
  • I decided to follow JMS's original plan, and I ended S4 with "Intersections." The conclusion of the Earth civil war, and the creation of the new alliance, will come in S5 E1.
  • I didn't want to end the episode with 20+ minutes straight of "Intersections," so instead I interleaved those scenes throughout the episode and re-framed it as a flash-forward.

S5E2 The Wheel of Fire

  • The plot of this episode is the fall of Centauri Prime, but the story of this episode is Londo saying, "I'm sorry," and G'Kar saying, "I forgive you."
31 Comments
2024/12/08
18:50 UTC

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why did Londo... S5 main plot line.

spoiler >! i can't understand why Londo accepts the parasite in season 5. at that moment there are other solutions he could have thought of, but he just decides to go with it without any resistance. that's so strange. anyone has a good explanation for that? !<

52 Comments
2024/12/08
08:01 UTC

23

How old was Sheridan in Season 4?

When the first alien restores his life and tells John he only has 20 years left, John says, "I'll be in my early 60's by then." Meaning he had to be in his 40's when Season 4 was airing. Was he really that old? It might be the actor looking young but i assumed he was only in his mid-30's at most. He looks 35 to me at best.

44 Comments
2024/12/08
06:02 UTC

109

I've been watching for the first time and Lennier is my GOAT.

41 Comments
2024/12/08
04:24 UTC

43

No one could give me an answer, so i counted the Excalibur's decks myself. Is this right?

15 Comments
2024/12/08
00:48 UTC

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JMS is active on Bluesky. Here are his latest reiterations of his views on the state of the industry.

https://bsky.app/profile/straczynski.bsky.social/post/3lch2ywbmes2o

Fan: "...when might we be getting the reimagining?"

JMS: "The TV/film industry has been in a state of near-paralysis for four years. So very little is being bought during this time of consolidation and studios teetering on the edge of going out of business. They're saying this may last until 2026. So we're just one of many shows waiting around."

https://bsky.app/profile/straczynski.bsky.social/post/3lcmum6u4vk2h

JMS: "...If you do even a little google homework you will find dozens of articles about how the TV/Film industry is in a state of absolute panic and paralysis right now. It's affecting everyone."

https://bsky.app/profile/straczynski.bsky.social/post/3lcp2b2myqs2a

JMS: "It was the pandemic, then the writers strike, then the actors strike, then just as we were getting stabilized, the collapse of streaming media's financial model. Some estimate that many studios will fail completely and their assets bought out by others."

https://bsky.app/profile/straczynski.bsky.social/post/3lcqu3psvw223

Fan: "I'm curious though, really great shows are still being made on streaming. These can't all have been picked up before these events you mention?"

JMS: "Bear in mind that it takes 2-3 years between when a show is written, developed, a pilot shot, and a series commissioned. And most of what's on streaming now is based on very big IP that gives a guaranteed audience."

51 Comments
2024/12/07
23:45 UTC

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