I have a few friends that are playing the boardgame with me (I just bought it) and am trying to get them into the show but I think the pilot might be too long so I was thinking of introducing them too one episode. I’m thinking “Thirty Three” but am keen on others recommendations.

I'm on episode 3 of season 1, and I'm confused why Admiral Adama doesn't call Baltar out after he admits to not having a test for determining who's a cylon. Doesn't that mean Adama now knows he was completely lying about that first guy? Shouldn't he realize Baltar has ulterior motives at that point, having sentenced a (seemingly) innocent man to exile and probably death?

Something that has been bothering me: why couldn't the rest of the fleet sleep when they had to do the jumps? I understand that the flight crews couldn't, but why not the passengers?

There's at least once instance when Cavill orders some cylon agent on Galactica to kill themselves and relay their location to the Cylon fleet and I'm like... surely there's a better way to do that?

Are you trying to tell me, they have the technology to literally upload somebody's conciousness with a whole set of memories from random location within range, but they're unable to just upload their current coordinates?

And while we're at it, the show really pushes this idea that if you die temporarly outside the range of ressurection ship, than you're gone forever. There's no backup. One currently living cylone is a single consciousness that can be transfered from one body to another, but there are no copies of a single identity, only of bodies. Except... that's not true. We know that one's memories can be copied to another body (Boomer => Athena). We even know that somebody's memories can be stored and downloaded later to another body too, like some random 8 did with Athena's memories, so they could probably ressurect multiple copies of the same person. Boxing is pretty much storing somebody's memory and identity to be used later (or not). Besides, if your memories are only transfered the moment you die and there is no backup made last time in range, how can they ressurect Cylones who were instantanously vaporised by a nuke? Surely their memories must have been uploaded somewhat earlier, so the idea that temporarly out of range Cylon is gone forever when they die makes no sense.

In the same way, since we've established that Cylons at least subconsioucly stay in contact with the ressurection ship at all times, in case they are instantanously destroyed, surely it should be possible to track all the Cylons in range at least from the ressurection ship.

I get that every model starts with same memories. But, how did some memories transfer without the model dying and waking up in the resurrection ship? Like some Sharons had Athenas memories of Helo etc even when Athena hadn't died - so how would her memories get uploaded to other models?

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Anyone else feels always so... i don't know. In Faith (2), that whole interaction between Barolay and that Sixx. When she said to her "You watche me drown, kicking and treshing.... like I was some kind of Insect" and her reaction when Barolay said "Happy to pull you down again."

And the whole interaction afterwards when these Six talks with the other one, being even glad to be killed.

When she is down on the floor, said "I never did anything to her. We were working in the water treatment" and "How do you work through something like this?" and how she describes what happened to her. And the way the other Six... she doesn't try to percuade her or anything. She just feels sorry and does what is that one's Six only way to work through this: To finally die.

I mean, I know what happened on New Caprica. No one can blame Barolay. But I cannot never feel sooo so sad for this Six.

Personally I can't help it but this scene is so... wow. Tricia Helper is such a phenomenal actress. The despair, pain, anger behind this six is so.... palpable. On an emotional point of view this is my favorite scene of the whole series because it's so... wow

And hey - what does anyone else think about that scene? I even looked the sub for "Barolay" but that scene wasn't discussed yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z17ODn2uGU

That condescending teacher voice though...

Was there a reason he was not in “Daybreak” and the final mission to save Hera? Seemed like a very capable soldier.

I mean, would he even be a traitor? He could have said that his assistant turned out to be cylon and they look human now. No one should blame him, no one expected cylons to look human...

Other than cost is there any downside to buying it to stream?

The secretary of education is the designated survivor during tonight’s state of the Union address.

I feel like I’ve heard that story somewhere else before

I was watching BSG, S04, E15, No Exit. A scene involving the Final Five, including the injured Anders, seemed to suggest that they saw head angels on pre-apocalypse Earth; in the same way as Baltar and Caprica Six saw head angels.

In the scene, Anders is recounting their past while on Earth: "Back on Earth, the warning signs that we got. I saw a woman, Tory, you saw a man. Funny. No one. No one else could see them. Galen, you thought......" Unfortunately, we don't get to hear what Galen thought about the head angels.

I'm sure this has been noticed before but I'm just amazed that, after watching the show at least a couple dozen times, I'd never caught this particular dialog before.

Just wanted to inform the fans here. It's very much hitting notes of cinematic progressive rock blended with a Coheed & Cambria type story telling. Rufus Wainwright does the vocals. Overall I'm impressed so far and interested in hearing more.

It's not entirely in my "wheelhouse" of musical tastes - but still a good listen.

I'm assuming the intent was different.

So I heard that old song Lunatic Fringe today and I noticed some of the lyrics were very similar to episode names and/or themes of the for show. What say you all?

Tw: rape mention

I remember Cottle saying it was probably better for Boomer that Cally had killed her, rather than staying on the ship as a prisoner.

I don’t think Boomer would have been raped like Gina was (though I think that has less to do with the BSG crew being more moral, and more to do with the fact that Boomer wasn’t one of the only women on board), but I think she would have still been tortured. Tigh was already brutalizing her, and we saw how the crowd was treating her when she was being dragged through the hall before she got shot.

Note that someone may have already detailed the parallels here, but this is just something I've noticed.

So I'm a fan of Star Trek: Voyager (yes, I know), and I've studied up on the behind-the-scenes drama surrounding the show. Among the biggest incidents of drama surrounded RDM's acrimonious departure from the show, which led to a fracturing of his friendship with his former writing partner and VOY showrunner Brannon Braga. After his exit, he provided interviews where he was particularly biting towards his former writing partner Brannon Braga, who he more-or-less accused of betraying him.

I have very hurt feelings about Brannon. What happened between me and him is just between he and I. It was a breakdown of trust.

So BSG starts, incorporating many of the ideas RDM sought to bring to Voyager, yes? Among the main characters is Gaius Baltar, who's a bundle of personality flaws: he's intelligent, yet cowardly, weak, hedonistic and incredibly short-sighted, as well as unprofessional.

You know who else possesses these personality flaws? Brannon Braga. He's cowardly and weak (e.g. his sycophantic behavior towards Rick Berman), short-sighted (having no long terms plans for Voyager), unprofessional (he had an affair with VOY cast member Jeri Ryan, which I think has definite shades of Baltar's affair with Caprica Six) and hedonistic (Braga used to hold orgies on the regular during the halcyon days of TNG). I don't know about any possible drug usage, but it wouldn't particularly surprise me.

My theory is that the character of Baltar partly served as a creative outlet for RDM to unload his various frustrations and resentments re: Braga. There was a lot more that went into the character as a result of filming and--of course--what James Callis himself brought to the performance, but I think the ultimate emotional rationale for the character was RDMs ambivalence towards his former BFF and writing partner.

Again, just a theory!

Could we fit a BSG sequel series in the current world we live in? This series would have a similar feel to Caprica only it takes place on Earth. I think one of the returning characters could be Starbuck. The Battlestar Galactica wasn't destroyed, it is lurking somewhere in the Solar System. It is the 2030s, there is a Moonbase and a humans to Mars mission currently going on. Starbuck/Kara Thrace is visible to one astronaut who is training for a Mars mission. There is a war going on somewhere, and combat robots are being developed that are similar to the Cylons. There are places to discover, hidden spaceships to uncover, and a Cylon revolt that is about to happen. There is an FTL drive that is in development in a secret government lab, exploration are about to go way farther afield than just Mars and the Moon. These are all plot elements that could be woven together for a sequel series.