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we need to practice in a cold place other wise we’re gonna get smacked every time every season especially the playoffs , let’s use the bills stadium smh.
Playoff chances update:
We win the rest of our games
AND
Broncos lose 2 of their last 4 (Colts, Chargers, Bengals, Chiefs)
OR
Chargers lose 3 of their last 5 (Chiefs, Buccaneers, Broncos, Patriots, Raiders)
OR
Ravens lose 2 of their last 4 (Giants, Steelers, Texans, Browns)
AND
Colts lose 1 of their last 4 (Broncos, Titans, Giants, Jaguars)
Feel free to let me know if I missed something
I think we may only win two more games this year. I don't think we'll beat Cleveland, Houston, or the Jets in NJ. Our defense was so pathetically bad in the cold against GB, I don't see us beating the team playing tonight.
He's on a 1 year contract with Cleveland and has looked pretty damn good. Granted they may try to dump Watson and sign Winston to be their starter next year while drafting a project at QB.
In the words of the immortal Vince Lombardi on his defense, "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON OUT THERE!!! EVERYBODY IS JUST GRABBING!!! Especially the secondary.
The completion percentage is currently good for 1st all time for a single season. These stats btw include the injury game where he left early.
Tua stats: source
Tl;dr: We aren’t nearly as bad as the media suggests, but we still aren’t great against teams better than .500.
So I wanted to look into recent reports about Mike McDaniel’s 1-13 record against teams better than .500. These reports are all based on the record of the team at the time we played them. I thought it would be a little more fair to look at the record of the teams at the end of the season. So, after about an hour of digging around here are the numbers:
2022
Category | Record |
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Better than .500 | 5-5 |
With Tua | 5-3 |
Without Tua | 0-2 |
2023
Category | Record |
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Better than .500 | 1-5 |
With Tua | 1-5 |
Without Tua | 0-0 |
2024
Category | Record |
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Better than .500 | 0-6 |
With Tua | 0-3 |
Without Tua | 0-3 |
Note: since this season isn’t over Seattle, Indianapolis, Arizona, and Los Angeles all could still end up either above or below .500. I considered Seattle, Indianapolis, and Arizona better than .500 and Los Angeles worse than .500 based on predicted outcomes for their remaining games.
Combined
Category | Record |
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Better than .500 | 6-16 |
With Tua | 6-11 |
Without Tua | 0-5 |
Combined (2022 and 2023 only)
Category | Record |
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Better than .500 | 6-10 |
With Tua | 6-8 |
Without Tua | 0-2 |
Other interesting data
Category | Record |
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Playoff teams | 3-9 |
Teams that won a playoff game | 1-6 |
Teams that won a Super Bowl | 0-1 |
Teams worse than .500 | 19-5 |
Big takeaway from 2023. 5 of our 6 losses were against a playoff team and 4 of those 5 teams advanced in the playoffs. 1 of those 4 teams won the Super Bowl.
Conclusion: we ARE bad against “good” teams, however not as bad as the media portrays. 2023 is almost an anomaly because not only were our losses against good teams, they tended to be REALLY good teams. That said, good teams beat other good teams sometimes so we should have been able to beat some of them. Also a big takeaway is without Tua we absolutely suck.
I’m also not trying to say we’re good/we’re bad/fire McDaniel/keep McDaniel forever/etc. I just wanted to take a more “honest” look at the numbers.
Open thread to discuss anything Dolphins or not Dolphins.
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And another divisional title for the bills with a whopping 4 games left to go.
Ross won't fire McDaniel bc Ross is too old and we're in "win now mode" but it needs to happen asap.
Our guy is obviously not a legit head coach in the NFL. Maybe he'd be a really good coordinator (maybe) somewhere else but it was once again blatantly obvious Thursday night vs the Packers. We were out of that game as soon as Washington muffed that punt. All the stupid delay of game penalties, and so many more. He's not fit to be the top guy on a coaching staff.
If you're content with being the same ole mediocre dolphins who sneak in every year for a 6th or 7th seed then this is your guy. But if you want to actually beat good teams he's not the guy. He needs to go and we need to start over.
Miami Dolphins in Cold Weather:
So someone correct me if I’m wrong but I did some research. In Miami’s 12 game losing streak in 40 degree weather or less. 9 of this game have been played during the Tua era. He only played in 7 of them:
2024- Packers 30-17 2023 playoffs - Chiefs 26-7 2023 - Ravens 56-19 2022 playoffs - Bills 34-31 (Skylar) 2022 - Patriots 23-21 (Skylar) 2022 - Bills 32-29 (Tua MNF game) 2021 - Titans 34-3 (Raining) 2020 - Bills 56-26 2020 - Broncos 20-13
Outside of his rookie year, every one of Tua’s loses was to a First place team at home. I’d say less than 4 QBs in the NFL could win those games. I think it would be concerning if we were losing to bad teams in those climates but I can’t imagine many teams if any can win in Buffalo, Greenbay, KC and Baltimore late in December or January. I think this whole narrative is a little skewed. Now if you want to talk about winning big games in December or January regardless of opponent or temperature then that’s been a problem since 1995. The worst was the ‘99 team that started 7-1 and ended up 10-6.
If any team wants to win in cold environments, then you have to have a solid running game and run defense. Jacob destroyed us. Also Miamis RBs are great but are not built for power. Someone to compliment Achane and Wright next season.
When we had Ricky Williams we won a lot of those snow games in Buffalo. Let me know your thoughts.
obviously thursday was a disaster. but i feel like you guys are escalating this to a point where it does not need to be. we have who idea who this team is until the houston and san fran game. if you thought we were going to win out after the second bills game you were out of your damn mind. we are likely to make the playoffs at 10-7, and this was the game we WANTED to lose, if we were going to lose one. this was the hardest game on our schedule, easily. this team has A LOT to fix, but i feel like things aren’t as bleak as all you self loathers on this sub make it seem.
We've always had our similarities with them with the offense style and McD being from the Shanahan tree, but it's errie how us and the 49ers are having a bad year. Similar record, dealing with injuries, and now looks like the 49ers are getting embarrassed in a snow game against the Bill's on prime time much like we did against GB.
49ers have been a juggernaut for so long so they aren't worried one bit about their future. McD and Greir on the other hand really haven't done diddly the last few years. We kill it against bad teams but that ain't enough.
I know we need a change but I don't know where. GM, coach? I really dig what Tua has done for us and what he does on the field. I just hate seeing people coment "blow it up! Fire everybody top to bottom". I can't stomach ANOTHER rebuild. Damn. I know we got another 5 games to play, but from our first 12 games, where do we need to improve the most?
People are gonna say what there gonna say: The Dolphins can play in cold weather no matter the team they have. They use the excuse that Marino in the past struggled in the cold and snow. However, I’m seeing teams that aren’t from freezing weather environments play very well in the cold. The Tampa bay bucs beat the Washington Football team in MD in 30 something degrees wild card round. So if these teams are doing it, why can’t we? Is it really because we’re from Miami?
The path to the playoffs is not that complicated. We just need.
Colts to lose one more game. It’s not a given but that could happen today. Currently down 7 with Less than 9 minutes to go. If they do pull out a win I don’t see them beating Denver next weekend.
Denver lose two more games. Also not a given but the Chargers and the Chiefs are more than capable of beating Denver.
We win out. This is obviously the toughest part, but every remaining team on our schedule is beatable. Biggest threats are the Texans and the 49ers, but both have also had rocky seasons like us. They just tend to squeak out the win in scenarios where we didn’t.
Less likely scenarios:
Colts lose like above, the Ravens lose 3 more games, we win out.
Bills lose out and we win out. Absolutely unthinkable but my favorite scenario to imagine.
Im a foreigner trying to get into nfl. I know most rivalries come from your own division, but what about local teams? Are they considered rivals? Thanks :)
Lifelong Dolphins fan from Canada. Going to my first ever game in Miami with some buddies this weekend.
Besides the stadium, where are the best spots to buy Dolphins merch in Miami? Looking for unique merch & vintage stuff.
i feel like this off season should be rebuilding with stuff we need. we don’t have to spend another 12 years rebuilding we have a lot of good players(names) that could be traded away. like as of rn we do not need tyreek hill, we could trade him for some picks or some depth in the roster. i always wondered what this team would look like with a wr over 6’0 someone to throw it up to when in red zone. devante parker days. (opinion based ofc)
I honestly don't understand the love this subreddit has for McDaniel. A poll was just done recently and most of you want to keep him, why? Grier for all his faults has put together a playoff roster. Let's stop being emotional and gas lighting ourselves this roster has the talent.
McDaniel has had 3 years to adjust, and has shown he is incapable to prepare this team. This team crumbles under the slightest piece of adversity. He is an elite x and o's, QB coach. But, what is very apparent, he cannot coach sound, fundamental, mentally tough team football. Which honestly may be more important for a head coach. Or, finding the people to help him, but no he keeps the Danny Crossmans of this world.
Imo, we need to fire both. Grier has had plenty of time himself. This organization needs a fresh start.
The frequently repeated stat of McDaniel's record against "good teams" (which rarely agrees on the actual record) is based on lazy and incorrect analysis.
It focuses solely on the record of the team at the time the Dolphins played them. That doesn't make sense for two reasons:
A perfectly good team can lose a few games to equally good teams, but still finish with a winning record.
It ignores the fact that beating a team prevents them getting an above .500 record.
When we look at what the finishing record of a team would have been if the Dolphins hadn't beaten them it tells a very different story. Note: We can currently only do this for 22, 23, because the 24 season is not finished yet.
Year | Opponent | Record | |
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2022 | Patriots | 9-8* | |
2022 | Ravens | 11-6 | |
2022 | Bills | 14-2 | |
2022 | Steelers | 10-7 | |
2022 | Lions | 10-7 | |
2022 | Bears | 4-13 | |
2022 | Browns | 8-9 | |
2022 | Texans | 4-12-1 | |
2022 | Jets | 8-9 | |
2023 | Chargers | 6-11 | |
2023 | Patriots | 6-11 | |
2023 | Broncos | 9-8* | |
2023 | Giants | 7-10 | |
2023 | Panthers | 3-14 | |
2023 | Patriots | 6-11 | |
2023 | Raiders | 9-8* | |
2023 | Jets | 9-8* | |
2023 | Commanders | 5-12 | |
2023 | Jets | 9-8* | |
2023 | Cowboys | 13-4 | . |
Summary.
Teams beaten who finished above .500: 5.
Teams beaten who would have finished above .500 if not beaten by the Dolphins(*): 5.
Teams lost to above .500: 10
Result: The Dolphins are 10-10 against good teams over this period—a perfectly reasonable .500 record