Curious what prospects everyone has fallen for as we approach the draft.

A couple guys I hope the Panthers find a way to leave with no matter what are Ben Sinnott and Javon Baker.

I also would love to see us target a ton of offensive guys early in this deep class and focus on the defense later and with roster cuts. Using our 2025 1st on Edge1 seems like better value than edge6 in the 2nd

And anybody that bought into the betting apps ad campaign.

Thar is all.

Thank you and goodnight.

We’ll be at the NFL Draft asking people on the street who they think is the best angler on their favorite team, and giving away prizes from Boatsetter if it matches the “Survey says” answer / fan pick... or if they just have a great answer. Upvote or comment any player name, and the player with the most upvotes in 3 days will be the fan pick.

Draft your good friends and buddy ole teammate ole pals son kris Jenkins JR him and DB on the same line SHOOO

Roman Wilson, Ben Sinnott and Ruke Orhorhoro.

I honestly think he’s a solid wide receiver, also he carried my ass on Madden 22 franchise 💀

I saw this over in the Chargers sub. Thought it was an interesting graphic. Thielen is carrying basically half of this.

I’m watching the UFL game right now like a true football junkie. Hakeem Butler looks like a WR we should invite to camp.

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT ANTI BRYCE

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My question is more what we and the NFL scouts at a whole expected Bryce to be at his best. Like for example someone like Mahomes or Allen you can expect huge downfield plays with big arm talent. Or Richardson can be like a cam type running the ball and throwing

With Bryce, is he more of a Brees mold? Slice and Dice inside 20-30 yards. 12-13 play drives?

I know he was compared to Peyton IQ wise but Peyton did have some size to him. But i can see similarities

So what does Bryce at his best look like? what is the comp? what is he supposed to be playstyle wise

Curious who yall think should be the next people inducted in the Panthers Hall of Honor? I think Coach Fox and Mike Minter definitely need to be put in!

There's always a surprise guy who falls out of round 1. I'm hoping it's Penix or Nix and someone pays the QB tax to move up like Levis, last year. Moving down 5 to 10 spots and get another pick(s) because the depth at WR is so good supposedly.

This thread is for weekly off-topic discussion where /r/Panthers users can discuss anything they wish. Talk about your plans for the weekend, other teams, the news, or whatever else comes to mind.

I think most Carolina fans are massively overlooking the CB position. We all love Jaycee Horn, but the harsh reality is we cannot depend on him to play a full season. After our CB1, we have the worst CB room in the league and it is not even close. After losing Donte Jackson to the Steelers, we brought in our next best CB on the roster in Dane Jackson, a former 7th round pick who last year started 6 games for an injury riddled Bills secondary, posting a 64.5 PFF rating with 0 interceptions. After that we have Troy Hill, DiCaprio Bootle, (the other) Lamar Jackson, D'Shawn Jamison, & AJ Parker.

After Free Agency we seemed to have revamped our biggest positions of need in the offensive & defensive line and one of the best receivers we could realistically land in Dionte Johnson. I believe we will have to address CB in the draft.

Who would you guys want to see us target for our CB2 - and where in the draft do you think would make the most sense?

I just saw like 2-3 WR names, that can‘t be it if you know our WR situation.

I know Cam isn't everyone's favorite, even in this sub, but I'm a big fan of Cam and enjoy his opinions on the league. He touches on the current panthers regime and Bryce as well as the 2015 season and the dismantling of that roster.

My favorite part though might be where he gives more detail about his college days at Florida, Blinn, and Auburn. Without a doubt one of the best football players of our time, great episode to watch.

Anyone interested in this lot of 15 cards?

I won this from my previous Corp job for my efforts in 2020(what a year that was...), if I recall I got it 1st half of 2021. I'm going to "re"gift this + beer to a buddy that's helping me move. He is a big Panther fanboi. I've search 2019, 2020, 2021 rosters along with Google being no help and can't figure it out.

so right about now is when I would start to feel the earliest signs of falling victim to hopium before I even see a minimum of at least ONE panther regular season game. let me be clear that this is not to bash or shame anyone currently with hopium at all as one should reasonably be hyped for their team. but I feel enlightened after years of being free from it and feel I should share with you guys as well. the nfl is designed to have worse teams get better over time with better drafts picks, that way it evens out to every team being competitive. easy knowledge that’s the way it should happen over time, yet we are the only team to have it continuously backfire on us. look at the Jets, they had so many years they were bad and had so many 1st round picks and used all of it to build a more competitive team they have now. why can’t we do that?

Hi Panthers fans,

I have a pretty weird request but was wondering if you could help me out.

I'm a Packers fan making a tribute to our former kicker Mason Crosby by collecting footage of every successful field goal and every defensive highlight across his entire career. Out of all 431 field goals, I am only missing 7, and only 1 time he made a tackle on a kick return. Now how is this relevant to the Panthers at all?

Great question. One of the 7 field goals I am missing happened when the Packers played the Panthers in Crosby's rookie season. Out of all the footage I could find on every game he played in from 2007-2023, this game is impossible to find in full. That is why I'm asking you if you had any possible leads to old Panther game footage or if someone by some miracle has the game recorded, it would be an enormous help to me. For reference, this is exact time the clip I need is: 2007 Week 11-Panthers @ Packers, 2:41 4th quarter 47 yard FG

The big contract numbers we see reported by the media are often a bunch of added fluff to boost the total value of a deal, while the “real” deal is hidden within the “out” in the contract where the guaranteed money for the following years is much lower, and therefore the player is either cut or the contract is renegotiated/extended. For example, the last two years of Nick Bosa’s contract add up to 98.6 mil, but only 16 mil of that is guaranteed. The niners are never going to pay him that and carry nearly 50 mil cap hits for an edge rusher, so instead they will likely renegotiate his contract or extend him with another “big” contract that similarly will have fake years at the end to boost its total value.

Brian Burns’ deal was reported as 5/150 but the deal is technically 5/141 with incentives to reach 150. Funny enough, while the last 2 years of his deal are still “fake” (65 mil with only 14 mil guaranteed) and will likely be renegotiated, his guarantees are so high that his AAV for the “real” years is actually higher than the technical contract AAV.

So his “real” deal is actually: 3 / 90 mil (30 AAV)

He also has 1.8 mil / year in incentives if he gets ANY of Pro Bowl, 1st Team All Pro OR 12.5 sacks. Assuming he makes the pro bowl each year (which he made with just 9 sacks in 2021) his deal is: 3/95.4 mil (31.8 AAV)

For comparison sake here are some other “real” deals singed in the last year by pro bowl edge rushers:

Nick Bosa: 4 / 121.7 (30.4 AAV)

Josh Allen (who just came off a 17.5 sack season): 3 / 91 mil (30.3 AAV) With incentives (250k for 12.5 sacks + 250k for 14 + 250k for 17.5 + 1 mil for either Pro Bowl or 1st Team All Pro), assuming he reaches all of them: 3 / 96.25 (32 AAV)

Montez Sweat (12.5 sacks last year on 2 awful teams): 3 / 63 mil (21 AAV)

Danielle Hunter (3 years older than burns but just came off 16.5 sack season and averages 14 sacks/season over the past 4 years, excluding the year he was hurt): 2 / 51 mil (25.5 AAV)

Burns’ deal effectively makes him the 3rd highest paid edge rusher without incentives (behind Bosa by a measly 400k), the 2nd highest paid edge rusher with incentives (behind Allen by a measly 200k) and the highest paid edge rusher if Josh Allen gets anything less than 17.5 sacks in any of the next 3 seasons.

Therefore, if Allen fails to reach 17.5 mark just once in the next 3 seasons, Burns’ AAV (once again assuming he makes the pro bowl each year, which he did with only 9 sacks in 2021) has him getting paid:

More than Josh Allen, who more than doubled his sack production last year

1.4 mil/year more than Nick Bosa

6.3mil/year more than Danielle Hunter who also more than doubled his sack production last year

10.8mil/year more than Montez Sweat who had 4.5 more sacks last season on two awful teams.

I love Burns but at no point in his career has he been anywhere close to the best edge rusher in the league and I’m very glad the Panthers didn’t pay him as such and instead prioritized building the O line and paying Derrick Brown.

And in case you were wondering what the “real” deal was for the (actually) top 5 at his position, best run defending DT in the league?

Derrick Brown: 3 / 60.6 mil (20.2 AAV)

Which is a steal compared to the other DT contracts handed out recently:

Chris Jones: 3 / 95 mil (31.7 AAV)

Christian Wilkins: 3 / 84.3 mil (28.1 AAV)

Leonard Williams 1 / 27 mil (27 AAV) or 2 / 48 mil (24 AAV) depending on how you look at it

Justin Madubuike 3 / 75 mil (25 AAV)

Cade Stover TE