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2024 FIRST ROUND ORDER
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
---|---|---|---|
CHI~ | WAS | NE | ARI |
5 | 6 | 7 | 8 |
LAC | NYG | TEN | ATL |
9 | 10 | 11 | 12 |
CHI | NYJ | MIN$ | DEN |
13 | 14 | 15 | 16 |
LV | NO | IND | SEA |
17 | 18 | 19 | 20 |
JAX | CIN | LAR | PIT |
21 | 22 | 23 | 24 |
MIA | PHI | MIN$ | DAL |
25 | 26 | 27 | 28 |
GB | TB | ARI% | BUF |
29 | 30 | 31 | 32 |
DET | BAL | SF | KC |
~ From CAR (Bryce Young)
$ From HOU via CLE (Pick Swap/Watson)
% From HOU (Will Anderson Jr.)
The 2024 NFL Draft
Round 1: Thursday, April 25th, TBD ET
Rounds 2-3: Friday, April 26th, TBD ET
Rounds 4-7: Saturday, April 7th, TBD ET
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(Previously Cam Ward) The Titan's GM's comments about 'generational players' in the draft has started a bit of a mini trend in the draft community of drafting non-QBs at 1. I don't buy it. Cam Ward, for all his flaws, is a very high potential quarterback. The Titans organisation will be pressured to pick a QB given the position and they are in.
(Previously Shedeur Sanders) Given Cam Ward is off the board, the arguments for taking a non-QB suddenly becomes a lot more compelling. Abdul Carter has elite pass rush ability, and despite concerns over run defence, absolutely has the talent to go at this point in the draft. One can very easily imagine he and Myles Garrett forming a formidable duo on DL.
(Previously Travis Hunter) The front office needs to elevate the QB position, desperately. Daboll and Shane's leashes are so short at this point that they are hanging off the ground. Sanders might not really be a top 3 talent, but has a high enough floor to entice New York at 3.
(Previously Abdul Carter) The Patriots need help on both offence and defence, and Hunter might be able to help with both of these problems (depending on how Vrabel wants to use him).
(Previously Mason Graham) The Jaguars go for the chalk pick at 5, and select a CB after seeing the success that some of the rookie CBs have seen in 2024. Johnson has great physical tools, and teams will be willing to look past his injuries in this scenario.
(Previously Tet McMillan) The NFL is a trend league. Whether it is everyone copying Fangio defences in 2021, or every team becoming insanely high on QBs with the ability to throw off platform, teams will follow the leaders. Running backs had a huge year in 2024, with Saquon, Henry, Bijan, and Jacobs all having big years. Jeanty is an incredible running back, and the Raiders prepare to give their next quarterback the best shot possible with these weapons (Darnold, or whoever it may be).
(Previously Will Johnson) Another chalk pick as the Jets revitalise their defence by pairing Mason Graham with Quinnen Williams on the IDL.
(Previously James Pearce Jr.) While I may not necessarily agree with it, Mykel Williams will almost be high on every NFL GM's draft board. With elite size, mobility, and power, the Panthers add a high upside player to their defence who fits nicely with their timeline.
(Previously Mykel Williams) The Saints go best player available as they enter an unstable period for the franchise in a strange period. McMillan compliments the skillsets of both Olave and Shaheed, and will give the new Saints QB a much easier time. Presumptive head coach Kellen Moore will be able to use him in a manner similar to AJ Brown.
(Atlanta previously picked Jalon Walker) The Falcons are starving for defensive linemen, and Mike Green offers a level of productivity that will draw Atlanta to the point of making a trade. Green has shined at the Senior Bowl, and absolutely has a shot of going in the top 10 if he interviews well and puts his Virginia suspension firmly behind him.
(Previously Will Campbell) Offensive line may be enticing here for San Francisco, but addressing that position will be very possible in the 2nd round. Meanwhile James Pearce can learn under Bosa in SF and also helps to address a position of need.
(Previously Luther Burden III) Dallas needs to add pieces to a depleted offensive line. Campbell should be able to get past his issues in the three point stance and be able to play as an effective pass protecting guard, with the capability to kick out to tackle if Coach Schottenheimer desires.
(Denver previously picked Omarion Hampton) Denver falls in love with the well rounded offensive threat that is Tyler Warren to give Bo Nix an easier time. Warren has the capability to collect a lot of YAC (something that Denver will value) as well as possessing decent route running and inline play. Miami collects draft capital as they prepare for a soft rebuild.
(Previously Tyler Warren) The Colts play it safe at 14 by selecting Starks, who projects well in the NFL and will help an Indiana defence that could use new weapons.
(Bears previously picked Ashton Jeanty) As shown by D.J.'s recent big board, teams will like the reliabilty that Booker will bring to the IOL. No other teams has as big a need for IOL help than Chicago, who make a safe pick at 15.
(Previously Derrick Harmon) The Cardinals pick up Banks, who can complement Paris Johnson Jr (who will take the handle of franchise tackle) at tackle, or potentially move to guard. Either way, he can help Kyler Murray regain his form.
(Previously Tyleik Williams) The Bengals rush the podium to select Jalon Walker, who falls down the board from his expected range (8-15). Walker adds much needed defensive prowess and an underrated versatility.
(Previously Kelvin Banks) Again, people are putting slightly too much stock into the passing comments of GMs by refusing to draft IOL help for Seattle at 18 due to comments about guards being 'overdrafted and overpaid'. Simmons can play tackle and guard, offering a versatility that Seattle will value, and I don't see him being seriously held back by his injuries.
(Previously Jihaad Campbell) Mike Evans is very old. Adding Burden at 19 is good value and also reinforces a position of need for Tampa. Fairly straightforward.
(Previously selected Malaki Starks) Dolphins secure additional draft capital by trading down, and pick up a solid player in Harmon to continue a reconstruction of their D-Line that began with the selection of Chop Robinson last year. Harmon showed his steel last year, and 'toughing up' by building through the trenches is a must for Miami.
(Previously Azareye'h Thomas) Egbuka offers a consistency that complements the boom-or-bust nature of George Pickens. While improving the secondary is also a need, Egbuka's well rounded profile makes him to good for Pittsburgh to pass up.
(Previously Colston Loveland) A completely original pick here, very original, Loveland gives Herbert a new option in the pass game. Harbaugh.. connection. Or something.
(Previously Kenneth Grant) Green Bay will have a secondary need with Jaire Alexander being injured and potentially leaving. Barron has elite potential and great versatility across the DB position.
(Previously Walter Nolen) The pick here for the Vikings is between either Nolen or Emmanwori, and I decided to opt with the latter for Minnesota. Many teams will be able to fall in love with Emmanwori's instant processing of the field, and build that will allow him to play a flexible role in pass protection.
(Previously Josh Simmons) The Texans have a hole at WR with Diggs gone and Dell injured, and Golden steps in as a stopgap. That is not to take away from the Longhorns' WR - smooth route running combined with a decent physical profile makes him a solid option for any offence.
(Previously Josh Conerly) Same goes as last time with this pick. Conerly has tackle characteristics that makes him an appealing pick for the Rams, who need to prepare for the post-Stafford era.
(Previously Mike Green) Membou is a riser so far in the pre-draft process, and at the point where he is solidly a first round pick. He falls a bit in this draft as GMs look to prioritise OL later in the draft, but the Ravens snag him here, where he will be able to move around an OL in need of replenishing.
(Previously Nic Scourton) This should be the defensive BPA for Detroit, and for me that is Walter Nolen. Nolen has elite upside, and with good coaching can become a mainstay for the Lions defensive line.
(Previously Trey Amos) The Commanders should also probably go BPA at 29, and Campbell is a capable player who falls to Washington (based off his current draft projection - DJ has him at 13!) who can fill several positions of need.
(Previously Jack Sawyer) The Bills could use more young pieces on their defence, and Stewart's immense phyiscal profile will stop him from sliding any further.
(Previously Cameron Williams) Ezeiruaku has a deep pass rush bag, and flashes capable run defence. With Sweat and Milton Williams potentially leaving, the Eagles go for DL at 31.
Despite a rough start to the senior bowl, Thomas’ elite frame propells him to the first round, with the Chiefs needing secondary help after Sneed’s departure.
Amos, Cameron Williams, Sawyer, Scourton fall out the first round
Talk about anything you please; draft-related or otherwise!
I have seen discussion on multiple RBs but seen no one talk about Brashard
Former WR turned RB this year for the mustangs
Why is he mocked so low he really reminds me of Gibbs
Passing Efficiency and Accuracy:
Shedeur Sanders (2024 Season - Colorado)
Performance Under Pressure:
Key Game Statistics:
Season Highlights:
Deep Ball Accuracy:
Scouting and Draft Rankings:
These statistics and highlights emphasize Shedeur Sanders' edge in accuracy, efficiency in crucial moments, and overall performance in 2024, particularly when considering his context of playing with less support from his offensive line and still managing to lead his team with high statistical marks.
Hi all,
Thanks again for all of your support and feedback to help me make these videos happen. Up next is Stanford WR Elic Ayomanor, you can find every 2024 touch & target here.
I figure since I'm watching these guys' film I may as well give some brief opinions in my posts to start more conversation on here. I'm not as high on Ayomanor as I've seen others. He was subject to some absolutely horrid QB play throughout the season (from 3 different and uniquely bad QBs), but he also has plenty of drops where a pass hits him in the hands. I'll have to re-watch as well, but I do not remember seeing him make a single jump ball/contested catch. He made some nice catches in traffic, but overall his hands are a concern for me. From my perspective as a Chargers fan and taking into account LAC's needs, I wouldn't be happy if they took him any higher than the 3rd round, and would be more comfortable with him in the 4th & 5th rounds. Anyways, just my two cents.
Thanks again,
I know it's not as big as the Senior Bowl, but wanted to show the Shrine Bowl some love! We got some football on tonight and some prospects to look at. I take that as a win. Game is on at 8 PM EST on the NFL Network. Figured to make this for those watching the game and want to discuss who their watching, their favorite prospects, or whatever you'd like about the game.
I know that probably the two biggest names, Shedeur Sanders and Kenneth Grant, aren't playing, but here are some of the prospects I'm keeping my eye on:
East Roster
South Carolina RB Rocket Sanders
San Jose State WR Nick Nash
Eastern Washington WR Efton Chism
Missouri WR Theo Wease
Auburn WR KeAndre Lambert-Smith
Syracuse TE Oronde Gadsden
Middlebury OL Thomas Perry
South Carolina DT Tonka Hemingway
Kentucky LB Jamon Dumas-Johnson
Kansas CB Cobee Bryant
Kansas CB Mello Dotson
West Roster:
Texas Tech RB Tahj Brooks
UNLV WR Ricky White
Ole Miss WR Juice Wells
Miami WR Jacolby George
Texas Tech TE Jalin Conyers
Boise State DE/Edge Ahmed Hassanein
Oregon CB Jabbar Muhammad
I think they were pretty slept on to begin the cycle, but now every report I see seems to be about another WR dominating practices. Is there really that much receiving talent here, or are the corners in Mobile just underwhelming? I lean towards the latter, just want to hear some opinions.
I complied the last 5 years (2021-2025) and ranked them off of where I had them as prospects. (Note that 2025 prospect rankings can and will change as the draft season continues)
Incoming rookies in bold
Quarterbacks:
Trevor Lawerence
Caleb Williams
Mac Jones
Bryce Young
Drake Maye
Trey Lance
Jayden Daniels
CJ Stroud
Cam Ward
Anthony Richardson
Zach Wilson
Will Levis
Justin Fields
JJ McCarthy
Jaxson Dart
Bo Nix
Shedeur Sanders
Malik Willis
Hendon Hooker
Quinn Ewers
Kenny Pickett
Sam Howell
Jalen Milroe
Desmond Ridder
Matt Corral
Running Backs:
Ashton Jeanty
Bijan Robinson
Travis Etienne
Breece Hall
Najee Harris
Kaleb Johnson
Omarion Hampton
Jahmyr Gibbs
Jonathon Brooks
Kenneth Walker III
Roschon Johnson
Isaiah Spiller
Zach Charbonnet
Blake Corum
TreVeyon Henderson
Kyren Williams
Trey Benson
Ollie Gordon III
Michael Carter
Braelon Allen
Trey Sermon
MarShawn Lloyd
Khalil Herbert
Wide Receivers:
Marvin Harrison Jr.
Ja’Marr Chase
Devonta Smith
Jaxson Smith Njigba
Malik Nabers
Tet McMillan
Garrett Wilson
Drake London
Treylon Burks
Rome Odunze
Chris Olave
Jaylen Waddle
Luther Burden
Quentin Johnston
Brian Thomas Jr.
Jordan Addison
Elic Ayomanor
Zay Flowers
Emeka Egbuka
Keon Coleman
Rashod Bateman
Skyy Moore
Savion Williams
Jonathan Mingo
Rondale Moore
Tight Ends:
Brock Bowers
Kyle Pitts
Tyler Warren
Michael Mayer
Ja’Tavion Sanders
Colston Loveland
Dalton Kincaid
Trey McBride
Pat Freiermuth
Cade Otton
Gunnar Helm
Cade Stover
Luke Musgrave
Hunter Long
Greg Dulcich
Looks like practice is all wrapped up again for the day. For all those attending or watching the streams, what all did you see? Any big moves in one direction or another? I know today is always a big day for quarterbacks. Love to see any takeaways and comments from what all went down on the field today!
Players I am high on:
Players I am lower on:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oVj8-Or0MZMUY11a57JkE8mLihDcYnYA5U8y-8MB2Lc/edit?usp=sharing
If the Bengals move on for Trey Hendrickson next season, how many 2nd round picks would the Bengals would get if they trade him?
I think it's much better if the Bengals build a young defensive team and sign a veteran OG to protect Burrow. This draft have a lot of good DT, DE and CB which the Bengals can draft on the second round.
Guys who you think are underrated prospects and/or who you really want to see succeed in the pros
For me:
Anyone from Indiana or Kansas, especially Kurtis Rourke and Devin Neal
Will Campbell
Xavier Restrepo
Mykel Williams
Jalen Royals
James Pearce Jr.
Aireontae Ersery
Kevin Winston Jr.
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Luke Kandra
Billy Bowman
No official thread has been made, and I'm stuck at work without much access to what all happened today. What all did you guys see? I want all thoughts and takeaways. All I saw from checking socials really quick was Conerly getting destroyed by Green. Zabel still flying up boards as well. I'm really hoping that American DL group showed out as much as I think they should.
Hi all, was hoping you could help me out -
I’m looking to make a better (and free) mock draft simulator for the masses
I’ve used just about all of them, and have noticed shortcomings in all of them
Could you help me by submitting your MUST HAVES in a mock draft simulator?
My goal is to post it here for all to test out, and use this forum as a way to roll out features that people request
All feedback is welcome
Thank you all!
1- Shedeur Sanders (QB)- Tennessee Titans
2- Abdul Carter (EDGE)- Cleveland Browns
3- Cam Ward (QB)- New York Football Giants
4- Travis Hunter (CB/WR)- New England Patriots
5- Mason Graham (DT)- Jacksonville Jaguars
6- Tetairoa McMillan (WR)- Las Vegas Raiders
7- Will Campbell (OT)- New York Jets
8- Mykel Williams (EDGE)- Carolina Panthers
9- Jalon Walker (LB/EDGE)- New Orleans Saints
10- Armand Membou (OT)- Chicago Bears
11- Will Johnson (CB)- San Francisco 49ers
12- Ashton Jeanty (RB)- Dallas Cowboys
13- Tyler Booker (IOL)- Miami Dolphins
14- Tyler Warren (TE)- Indianapolis Colts
15- Shemar Stewart (DL/EDGE)- Atlanta Falcons
16- James Pearce Jr (EDGE)- Arizona Cardinals
17- Colston Loveland (TE)- Cincinnati Bengals
18- Kelvin Banks Jr (OT/G)- Seattle Seahawks
19- Emeka Egbuka (WR)- Tampa Bay Bucs
20- Malaki Starks (S)- Denver Broncos
21- Luther Burden III (WR)- Pittsburgh Steelers
22- Matthew Golden (WR)- Los Angeles Chargers
23- Jahdae Barron (CB)- Green Bay Packers
24- Benjamin Morrison (CB)- Minnesota Vikings
25- Kenneth Grant (DT)- Houston Texans
26- Josh Simmons (OT)- Los Angeles Rams
27- Josh Conerly Jr (OT)- Baltimore Ravens
28- Mike Green (EDGE)- Detroit Lions
29- Donovan Jackson (IOL)- Washington Commanders
30- JT Tuimoloau (EDGE)- Buffalo Bills
31- Derrick Harmon (DT)- Philadelphia Eagles
32- Shavon Revel Jr (CB)- Kansas City Chiefs
A couple of months ago, I was looking to see how many players declare early for the NFL Draft. With the deadline having passed, we have the official numbers - 55 true juniors plus 15 others who still had eligibility. This is a slight bump from last year's 54+4, and, although, this is far from the 100 pre-NIL and pre-covid, this seems to be the nadir.
I copied down PFF's prospect ranking from November to see how accurately you could predict who would declare while the season was going on. The results are maybe not surprising, but I think with NIL money, a lot of people are under the assumption players that can get drafted early are not declaring which isn't the case. Most players who are a top 100/projected to go in the first 3 rounds declares early. Here is the data..
Projected Round | Juniors (declare/total) | RS Sophmore | RS Junior |
---|---|---|---|
First | 22/22 | 0/0 | 2/2 |
Second | 6/7 | 1/2 | 1/1 |
Third | 11/13 | 0/0 | 0/0 |
Fourth | 5/9 | 0/1 | 0/3 |
Rest of top 200 | 3/20 | 0/1 | 3/6 |
As you can see, players in the top 100 generally declare. (I will say this is not the perfect way to evaluate this as it only look at PFF rankings in November, but I am not trying to quibble over 90% and 95% declare rates). It does seem that redshirt sophs are slightly less likely to declare and redshirt juniors are a little bit more likely to declare which would make sense, but the sample sizes are small.
If you are curious, here are the top true juniors (according to November PFF) who did not declare..
1st. LT Overton
2nd. Drew Allar, Blake Miller
3rd. Ar'maj Reed-Adams, Daylen Everette, Robert Spears-Jennings, Chandler Rivers
It is also interesting to see who did declare. The three juniors who did declare that were not part of the first four rounds were Trevor Etienne, Emery Jones Jr, and Jordan James. Two running backs, and a guy who is a top 100 prospect to others (he is 65th on NFLMockDraftDatabase's consensus). If you look at PFF's rankings now and see which true juniors declared that are outside the first 3 rounds, 5/10 are running backs. Out of those, Mason Taylor, Quinn Ewers, and Emery Jones Jr are ranked higher by most. That leaves Thomas Fidone II and Jacob Parrish with unexpected decisions. Anyway, I would guess that running backs are more likely to declare given that running backs have the shortest careers. Which makes Nick Singleton's decision even more questionable. Although, you could say he is trying to help his draft capital as a guy who could go in the first couple of rounds whereas someone like Damien Martinez is going to be a fourth round guy regardless.
Anyway, if you want to do a 3-round mock draft in November of next year, I think you can be confident that most of the juniors you mock will end up declaring.
I've seen this mentioned a lot. I had a question for folks that may know about this:
Can you explain the offense to someone that didn't watch Ole Miss? I've read that it's a one-read offense and designed to have predetermined reads.
My question is if it's that simple, why doesn't everyone just run an offense like that? Does that mean that Lane Kiffin is the best play caller/designer to ever live? If Lane is calling plays that have wide-open receivers as first reads, and it's leading to the numbers that Dart put up all while playing in the SEC.. that seems to suggest that any QB could be inserted into that offense and succeed. Which means that Kiffin should be the most sought-after HC in college football.
This question basically excludes corners, as I'm not looking for a slot coverage guys who can tackle.
I'm curious who you think the best coverage safeties and linebackers are - someone that you can plausibly throw on a Brock Bowers but also ask them to thump in the box whenever necessary.
Have a bold prediction that you want to state proudly but will most likely look very stupid in short time? Have at it! Maybe you’ll nail it and look like a genius in the future
Please don’t downvote a user for a stupid bold prediction; it’s all just for fun!
Here are the rates that QBs were pressured on their drop backs, adjusting out the pressures that they were credited for allowing. All of this data is from PFF. This is the rate at which QBs were pressured by no fault of their own. Interestingly, all of Milroe, Sanders, and Dart were pressured around the same high rate. Sanders held the ball much longer than Milroe and Dart though, and this aligns with his very high QB allowed pressure rate. Dart has the lowest QB allowed pressure rate in the class, so a much larger % of his pressures were a result of poor O line play. The next tier of QBs with Ward, Howard, and Gabriel were pressured at a much lower level. Ward is the most notorious improviser in the class and extending plays is part pf his game, and he held onto the ball the longest. He had a good O line that gave him a lot of time back there. Will Howard had the 2nd lowest QB allowed pressure rate and the best time to throw. Its not pictured here, but he also has a very low pressure to sack rate. Ewers poor pocket presence was on display in the CFP. McCord dealt with the lowest amount of pressure in the class. Interestingly, when he was pressured, he threw more INTs than TDs. Ewers threw the same amount of TDs and INTs when pressured.
So I was watching the st brown podcast with Caleb Williams as a guest and when discussing body fat he brought up a very interesting point how QBs want to have a certain % body fat in order to better take hits and that has me wondering is body fat the most important aspect into long term QB health instead of weight?
For example Bryce is the size of high schooler and everyone said he could not survive a NFL season. In his rookie season he took 68 sacks and the most Hits in the league and played 16 games meanwhile Anthony Richardson who's a freak got injured pretty early into his career. It's also interesting how guys like Cam Newton and RG3 had their careers destroyed as well compared to other QBs
I mean you can also look at the Bears as well. Justin Fields never played a full season he got injured every single year. Caleb who by no means is fat but definitely not as ripped as Fields played a whole season behind a offensive line just as bad if not worse than he had
Is this just a coincidence or is there a advantage to being a fatter QB?