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He's leading college basketball in scoring by a good margin, shooting 44% from three with 5 makes per game, almost has 50/40/90 splits, going 51/44/86, pretty good rebounder for a guard, and averages 3 assists, while not turning the ball over TOO much. He is putting these numbers up against pretty decent competition too, as he has played against and had great games against Ohio state, and Oklahoma state (also played against providence but had a down night on the offensive end).
As for his age, he won't be too terribly old, as he will only be 23 on draft night.
Plays pretty good defense too, there's just not a lot of bad things about his game really, but there is one thing I noticed:
He is pretty slow, but very fundamental and can shoot from half court and in.
He is pretty average sized for a shooting guard, as he is 6'5 and weighs 200 pounds.
Just wondering what y'all's evaluation on him is, I personally think he could go undrafted but have a decent career in the NBA.
Talk about what games/players you've been watching this past week or are looking forward to next week. Give us your thoughts on what players catch your attention, either positive or negative! Big board posting is encouraged in this thread as well.
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Every year some goober says some dude is generational and it drives me nuts. A generation to me is 20 years and there has been two since 2000, LeBron and Wemby. Cooper Flagg is not a generational prospect, he’s a very good prospect. When Dylan Harper dropped two very good games the last week or so people were flinging around that word again. Oden, Zion and Wiggins were fantastic prospects but NOT generational. The word means nothing now due to overuse and it’s a real pet peeve of mine and I’m sure many other people here.
7’0 Baba Miller
25 points
11 boards
3 assists
2 steals
2 blocks
9-11 FG
5-6 3P
2-2 FT
Which prospects can you see coming over or you heard buzz about coming over already?
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Darryn Peterson (6'6 SG) (USA)
AJ Dybantsa (6'9 Wing) (USA)
Cameron Boozer (6'9 Combo Forward)(USA)
Nate Ament (6'9 Wing) (USA)
Koa Peat (6'8 PF) (USA)
Chris Cenac Jr (6'11 C) (USA)
Jasper Johnson (6'4 SG) (USA)
Isiah Harwell (6'6 Wing) (USA)
Jayden Quaintance (6'9 PF) (USA)
Caleb Wilson (6'9 F) (USA)
Miikka Muurinen (6'9 Stretch Big) (FINLAND)
Maleek Thomas (6'4 Wing) (USA)
Brayden Burries (6'4 SG) (USA)
Darius Acuff (6'3 PG) (USA)
Cayden Boozer (6'4 PG) (USA)
Jalen Haralson (6'7 Wing) (USA)
Shon Abaev (6'8 Wing) (USA)
Karim Lopez (6'9 Wing) (Mexico)
Braylon Mullins (6'4 Guard) (USA)
Dash Daniels (6'5 Guard) (Australia)
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Yes, Most are Americans. Mostly 6'8-6'9 Wings or Combo Forwards.
Only 3 are International
Miikka Muurinen is like his fellow Countryman Lauri Markannen. Not because they are both Finnish and Stretch Big. But their playstye kinda similar.
Not familiar much about Karim Lopez from Mexico.
As for Dash Daniels. Yes, you guessed it right. He is the younger brother of Dyson Daniels. And like his Older Brother. He is a lockdown Perimeter defender too.
I was looking at old NBA drafts and sort of something that’s caught my eye is that there have been a bit of a lack of variety and where a lot of international players come from in comparison to how it used to be. I don’t know if it’s because of some countries used to have better basketball federations for youth development or something else of the sort, because I remember in certain NBA draft we used to be getting a lot more players from countries like Brazil, Russia and Ukraine respectively, Poland, and any other country that just so happened to pop out a 7 footer in any given year. But nowadays there is a lot more predictability where your top international prospects will come from. Whether it be France, Former-Yugoslavia, Spain, Aus,etc. Is this a testimony of just how strong live these countries have gotten in the basketball development? and if so, we have other countries really failed in that department. Or am I off base with my question?
*Note this also doesn’t mention the Various Canadian and African college prospects because a lot of their development is a lot more tied to US basketball, concerning coming here to play.
His absurd shot choice makes me think he’s going to be both a future superstar, and the most inefficient rookie wing scorer in recent times. This game against A&M was a masterclass in shooting anything and everything, 14 yr old lamelo style. Wonder what ur guys opinions on his future are.
These 3 young players are balling. Ant is only 23, Paolo is 22, Wemby is only 20. Yes, those are their ages.
Ant is literally in Conversation for Best SG with Mitchell and Booker (who are both in their absolute prime (28 yrs old)). And YES, Ant is 5 years younger than both of them. But he is in the same stratosphere as them.
Paolo is 22, and he is right there with Zion and Siakam. Not counting SF who plays PF (But really SF like KD, Lebron, Tatum), Paolo is probably above Siakam and Zion at this point.
Wemby as a 20 yrs old is a Top 5 Center no doubt. Jokic, AD, and Healthy Embiid are the only Centers above him right now. Then Wemby has an argument over Bam, Sabonis, KAT, etc. I personally have Wemby as 4th.
Interestingly,
2020 #1 Draft Pick - Ant
2022 #1 Draft Pick - Paolo
2023 #1 Draft Pick - Wemby
(2021 is Cade. But he is kinda not showing superstar potential. Let alone Top 5 in His position)
So, GMs are kinda cooking in picking #1 Draft pick this decade. (Too early to decide for Risacher in 2024)
PS:.
Idk if you guys stil believe Cade is best payer in 2021. Or considering players like Franz, Alperen, Mobley, and Scottie.
This video covers a lot of the nuances about Ace; I think his early remark about some ppl probably being too high on him and others too low is spot on. Kid is just not a KD/Tmac type of superstar creator that I think some ppl thought of him as, but on the flip-side he's not an empty calories chucker because he has a propensity for taking tough shots.
The middle ground is still a pretty useful player that should probably kill it in the NBA as an off-ball weapon and being able to catch it and attack in space while also bringing a lot of value on defense with his length & activity.
I just can't help but feel like the team around them just isn't good apart from Williams and Sommerville. Do you guys think Rutgers has a legitimate shot of making March Madness?
Harper has been way better at getting by people than Cade was at Oklahoma. Even without screens he's getting to the basket at will. For a guy who gets comp'd a lot to Cade it makes me wonder, is his first step/acceleration just that much better than Cade's?
This is just a thought experiment, don't yell at me about the Sixers would never do this, etc.
Let's say Sixers get the 1st overall pick.
And they wanted to leverage that pick to get as much young first rounders that they can draft/play immediately.
Is there any salary cap restrictions for the Sixers to trade their 1st overall pick on draft night to Brooklyn for all four of Brooklyns first round picks in the 2025 draft?
I get that each pick carries a cap hold, but would they be allowed to do this trade with them already being in the 1st Apron? Wouldn't the salary slots push the Sixers to the 2nd Apron?
The 2024-25 Sixers are firmly in the 1st Apron with $181.5M team salary
2nd Apron for 2024-25 is $188.9M, obviously this limit will increase a bit each year.
Let's say with the trade the Sixers get the below picks and these accompanying salary slots: #10 = $4.5M #18 = $3M #20 = $2.7M #28 = $2.1M Roughly $12.3M in drafted Cap Hold salary slots
Would the Sixers be allowed to make this trade since each draft pick carries a cap hold? And if they were allowed, this trade seems to push them into the 2nd Apron (depends on limits), so then would the Sixers even necessarily want to do this trade?
Jackson: 16.3 ppg 7.4 rpg 3.0 apg. 1.7 spg 1.1 bpg. Jackson was even more efficient than Flagg too: 51%/38%.
Jackson was often times compared to Iggy, Jack of all trades player that was a super athlete. Inconsistent on offense yet projected to be elite at defense. Honestly lot of the same analysis for Flagg tbh. I know folks here have their Flagg comparisons but think Flagg’s weaknesses somewhat mirror Jackson’s (except being a head case)
Not the best performance from Flagg, who did most of his work on the offensive glass and transition. Sluggish game overall from Duke who still have yet to click offensively, though a comfortable win.
Still the guaranteed lock for #1?
I cant find highlights if anyones got em please post em. This was worth bringing up with no highlights though.
Florida destroyed WSU in this game. WSU was undefeated, in the opening idk 10 minutes Florida/Chinyelu got a whole bunch of blocks and really set the tone for the beatdown to commence.
Chinyelu recently turned 21. He has an insane wingspan of 7'8 for a player whos 6'10, he's 250 lbs built like Bismack Biyombo 7th pick in the '11 draft, who's still might play this season I think he's looking for a spot on the bench somewhere still. I dont give a damn about Olivier Rioux, I want to see Chinyelu drop stats like these!
Florida appears to be one of the best teams this season too so he's sure to be tested in a lot of high stakes games. This is a great tune up he made a good choice to go play with guards like Walter Clayton Jr and Will Richard
Multi year player, more traditional big, high level post scorer and elite defensive threat. Just generally does big man things/fundamentals really well. 3 time Big East DPOY, 1 time All Big East second team, possibly wins POY awards this season with Edey gone.
If he just an NBA ready center that is possibly going to fall to the end of the first despite having great fundamentals?
As an arkansas fan, Billy Richmond has been extremely impressive to me. He is probably our 2nd or even best defender, and can score well too. These last two games he's had 14/9, and 12/4. He is insanely quick, and can get to the rim well. He also just looks pretty damn good out there for a freshman.
That being said, he is a poor shooter, and has yet to make a 3 throughout 7 games on 3 attempts total. His height could also be an issue as he is only 6'5 and he is a small forward.
A good comp for him I would say is a better rebounding herb jones. Their college stats and the way they played in college is very similar. All around I'm just a big fan of Richmond, and he's honestly my favorite player on the team this year, I'd just love to see some recognition for him.
Big matchup for a bunch of prospects tonight. Biggest story among them for me was the Battle of the Brothers, Zvonimir vs. Tomislav.
Tomislav, who plays for Illinois, is the younger twin by four minutes. He remembers playing in the backyard growing up in Vodice, Croatia, a small coastal town, against his brother.
"We did that a lot of times," Tomislav said. "Sometimes he wins, sometimes I win. If you ask me I'm better, if you ask him he's better. We're all going to see tomorrow "
Zvonimir remembers those backyard clashes slightly differently.
"I was beating his ass every time," Zvonimir said.
Tomislav Ivisic: 21/10/2, 2 steals, 3 blocks, 2 turnovers. 7-14 FG, 6-9 3PT, 1-2 FT.
Zvonimir Ivisic: 13/6/0, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 2 turnovers. 5-9 FG, 3-6 3PT.
For the other prospects:
Kasparas Jakucionis: 23/6/4, 5 turnovers. 7-13 FG, 2-5 3PT, 7-8 FT.
Will Riley: 5/0/2, 1 steal. 2-9 FG, 1-5 3PT, 0-1 FT.
Boogie Fland: 8/4/1, 2 TO. 2-12 FG, 0-3 3PT, 4-5 FT.
Adou Thiero: 26/6/1, 1 steal. 7-13 FG, 0-2 3PT, 12-21 FT (!!!).