The latest music I discovered was "Hit The Road Jack"

Honestly, I don't know what my favorite type is called.

I like:

Linkedin park Music (Numb - in the end - what I've done - papercut - etc.) // The Final Countdown // Centuries // Dawn of Victory // Dream on remix // I need a hero // I'm still standing (sing movie) // It's My Life // My Demons // Take On Me

and I listen to a anime openings all the time.

What emotion is that?

So I decided instead of clicking a mouse for an assignment, I would have PowerShell do the clicking, as I am going to watch paint dry. Thank God management saw the light and quit using it. Now upper management is scared I am using a mouse jiggler, nevermind their process was borked. I am tired of this planet. They keep adding dumb processes and treating us like children. Sorry for the rant just tired of not having my intelligence appreciated.

I have been pondering and I realized that I seem to remember things when I want too but forget simple dates and tasks people mention in the day to day operations.

I am wondering if this was something only I was experiencing or if my spacing out is due to something else?

I’ve been wondering recently how INTJs came to be. I’ve read a bit about psychological theories stating that people are predisposed to certain traits and “wired” to prefer certain cognitive functions.

Still, I’ve noticed that a lot of INTJs experienced hardship in childhood and were “forced” to be, for example, strategic and (often) alone in their heads. The more I read about that the more I think that INTJ is both born and made in a sense that early hardships might almost be a “prerequisite” for an INTJ.

How did it look like in your case? What personality would INTJ have without the “hardships”?

I'm having this issue where I want to research something, but it takes a lot of time and focus which I don't have right now. So I have put it off for a while, but now it's starting to affect me. I don't want to half heartedly dive into something only knowing a part, or not the full scale of it. And I'd rather wait to do it all at once than do it in parts, it takes a lot of diving into this topic to understand it entirely, but my attention is divided so I can't at the moment. You could say it's the All or nothing approach. But it's still bothering me I haven't had the time to do it.

More importantly, how connected are you to the idea of accomplishment in our society?

I see them as opposite sides of a spectrum. One had a near perfect life as defined by society and used their Ivy league education to build even more connections to disrupt the tech industry and amass immense wealth and universal admiration for their contributions to society.

The other bounced around with lots of odd jobs and was very involved in counterculture at the time. It took quite some time for him to become one of the greatest journalists ever yet still never quite fit in.

Is it important to you to be seen as valuable to outward society? Has this driven you to pursue careers or specific achievements you wouldn't normally be drawn to?

For me personally, I've always found it important. I see people more willing to listen to someone who presents well or has a PhD even if they weren’t as qualified. This led me to spend my time trying to be seen as the most valuable in whatever space I'm in. Sometimes I failed, but once I hit that milestone, I check out mentally and prepare for the next.

Lately though, my new focus has become more about positioning myself to get jobs with lots of downtime so I can self-study.

I've been lost on the how, but I want to start a live-in makerspace so I don't care much about looking accomplished or contributing to society in whatever role I'm in currently.

I have been thinking about societal issues, specifically things that affect other things, like correption, governence, trust, groupism, etc..

and I want to be a contributor on making those things better, still don't know what to do exactly, just learning reflecting

but I'm curious, is it realistic to finding a partner or friends who share these values. I'm hesitant to openly discuss these ideas, as they feel a bit heavy and idealistic.

But I think having that kind of aligned social circle could really help develop my thinking and actully doing something.

Do you think it's reasonable to actively seek out a partner who cares deeply about positively shaping society? Or is that too lofty of a goal?

I'd be interested in any thoughts or personal experiences the community might have.

In the past 6 months I’ve had five people either family, husband, friend emotionally explode on me.

What is it about me that is contributing to this? I have been avoiding these people as much as possible and I just want to start over and focus on all my other friends who aren’t bothered by me.

Each time was a different person and the reasons for exploding were different. Common themes are that I am a liar and manipulator, since I’m getting a doctorate degree that I should be smarter and make better decisions or do the right research, agreeing with them or calmly appealing to their emotional pain doesn’t calm the situation. It just escalated until I separated myself from the situation.

For example, my mom exploded and had a melt down that I have my child chocolate for the last hour of a long car ride. She not normally this way at all. She apologized later and it hasn’t happened since though she does bring up many other health/nutrition issues in a better way. But I’m still on egg shells.

My sister’s new boyfriend I learned is an alcoholic and he exploded on me saying I’m f’ed up because I’m still married to my husband who has mental health problems. This new boyfriend and my sister were having an affair and he was in the middle of divorcing his also alcoholic wife.

Then my sister and I got into an argument where she said believes I am a liar and a manipulator. So I haven’t talked to them in months because why would they want to talk to me if I’m such a bad person.

My husband’s step mother flipped out at my child’s autism recommendations for preschool. She says I’m in denial about the situation. And I’m like, but this is why I’m putting her in a special Ed preschool so she can get services. For some reason she just disagreed with everything I said like a crazy person.

On top of that my husband is a constant mental health case to manage.

*I'm the guy who wrote the coffee post 2 days ago.

Like sure I can focus on tasks and be more productive but only once I already planned them beforehand. The bigger picture and ideas come before I fall asleep and in power naps when I'm relaxed, which is only small fraction of time and I want to extend it. Something about alpha brain waves, stable dopamine levels, enhanced default mode network or something fucking I don't know dude i dug a lot of Web and GPT, Intuition just says go for it.

So just wanted to give you guys an update and hear opinion of what do you think or if someone also did it in the past? Yes I know: "We don't give a fuck about you or your coffee do what you want" Just wanted to post to keep myself accountable, get opinion or maybe inspire someone else. :)

I'm an INTJ myself and I've gotten curious to why we strive for perfection so much? Does anybody know why?

Trent Reznor, Maynard James Keenan and Chris Cornell are my all time, most listened to and most related to - favorite musicians.

And I just had the sudden intuition to search up their mbti and lo and behold by popular belief they are all INTJ.

Did you had the same experience?

Is it commom for INTJ have this "way of life"?
I realize i really like to push my limits in every way but not consious at all, i just do it naturally. I got my "epiphany" from this talking about feelings to my crush. Do you have it?

Im with the Internal Neural Telecoms Partnership

It’s about perfectionism, and it’s been nagging on me. First off, I do not want to be perfect in everything I do. I do not consider day-to-day activities such as cleaning my room or going to the gym(at least for me, it is trivial..) important. However, for the things in which I am interested, I am literally obsessed with them.

For example, studying English has been my priority. I am from a country where people speak the language that has no similarities to English at all, and the English education here isn’t acclaimed worldwide. I started learning English for fun alone, talking to native speakers frequently. I was in high school and had some other priorities, such as prepping for university. When I did go to university, I allocated more time(maybe like an hour or less a day) and studied the tongue every day. This February, I took the IELTS test and got a decent score.

The thing is.. I am not satisfied with it.. It’s not that I claim that I deserved more than the band scores the examiners gave me; it’s just that I can’t see myself being stuck at this level(C1). I want to go higher and higher, ultimately reaching the extent that people can’t tell if I am a learner or a native speaker. It made me feel embarrassed about my speaking and writing scores, which were lower than my listening and reading scores but generally considered good.

A Canadian professor at university told me that as a person who’s never lived or studied abroad, my achievements are exceptional. Most people native in English said my English is excellent. The thing is, I don’t seem to care about what they tell me; rather, I counter what they say in my mind, thinking “You are just being nice to me”, “Yeah I’m a foreigner and you have a low expectation for me”.

I know, you could be annoyed. I’ve been exhausted at myself too.. I want to dedicate myself to another language to be a trilingual, but my inner critic always scolds me with the words like “what? Your English is not perfect yet. You cannot learn anything new until you master your English first”.

No one, literally no one pushes or coerces me to think or do this way - I do it to myself. I am torturing myself. Even when I am on the bus or subway, I play the English audio files on psychology or philosophy to maximize efficiency and enhance my skills. When I’m on my phone more than 30 minutes, I immediately rebuke myself for being unproductive; it’s pathological… I’ve been eager to learn French, but I feel like if I learn French I would be rusty in English, so I’ve postponed the plan for a year. I feel like when I decide to learn something, it shouldn’t be cursory. I do not have enough time to study both languages since I am a full-time student and a part-time English tutor, which makes it more challenging.

The same thing goes for jazz piano, which I have a huge passion for. I have a perfect pitch and play songs by ear on piano as soon as I listen to them. Nevertheless, I think I am not truly good at it because I can not use the chord progressions that are more sophisticated and complicated than mine. It made me stop multiple times because, as I mentioned, I do not have much time to study jazz theories or listen to the lectures carefully. People tell me I am so gifted and they are jealous, but I am not content with it..

Am I trying to bite more than I can chew? I wholeheartedly want myself to change in a better way and acknowledge I can not become perfect always. If you have undergone situations like this, how did you correct your thinking patterns and go easier on yourself? I need some genuine advice.

To me is extremely hard bonding with people, it’s literally a mask I wear. I’ve grown up hearing the worst possible thing I child could hear, from body to personality. Nowadays I noticed that people I work with (I’m a manager) really are not found of me. I’ve tried it all, being the nicest and kindest, bringing chocolate croissants and more. I feel very hurt cuz as the only foreigner where I work and being the manager I feel like I’m pushed out and made fun of. Also I’ve heard and saw people talking crap about how I don’t deserve where I am. As I get older I’m finding way harder to cope with that… any tips on how to be nicer or even coping with this: situation?

Hello guys,

I'm writing to you because I'm trying to understand what is the source of confidence in INTJ-s and how do you maintain it. How do you get not lost in perfectionism?

I have an INTJ coworker, and he's brilliant. He nails every task given to him. He had the best grades throughout all his life, and acknowledges that he learns fast.

However, his self esteem and confidence is at incredibly low levels, he just doesn't believe in himself, it's surreal. He also says while positive feedback is good, it only lasts for a very short time and then it diminishes.

While for me, an INTP, my own success stories are perfectly enough to prove myself that I am capable (problably the Si use? idk), for him, not so much. When I ask him why don't all the things he nailed for the first time, even better than people with more experience, the answer is simply he only perceives what he did wrong and how it could've been even better.

While I understand that notion of perfectionism, the way he doesn't believe in himself at all really does hinder him becoming his best form of self and genuinely worry for him, I want to see him grow.

I understand how this low self esteem is not because his type, but it would be great for me to see stories of other people of his type going through and potentially growing out of this.

Can you share me some examples?

I've been going through a few subreddits on MBTI (because I have nothing better to do) and I notice I feel really comfy in the INTJ one. It has it's serious air here but I think all the posts I'm seeing are pretty down to earth and some interesting topics. All your responses are all pretty rational and easy to understand (even with the big words) but very fun to read. I appreciate every INTJ redditor here that has opened my brain on certain stuff, lol.

I love you guys though. There's nothing wrong or inherently bad about your exterior and habits when other people find you weird. To me, being able to rationalise for someone is a form of empathy too, you prioritise something that involves them instead of just yourself (it's the thought that matters, even if you don't say it). We're all just chunks of meat trying to survive with societal standards and there are a lot of different people out there. I'm sorry if sound like a narcissist or something (LIKE, IF I GIVE OFF THE WRONG VIBE, THAT ISN'T MY INTENTION). I just thought maybe there is just someone out there that needs to hear that. You guys are really quirky but in a good and controlled way and I like it! You deserve to receive love, be seen and appreciated like any decent person so don't let anything else bother you about it.

I do not have much of a goal on posting this. I just wanted to see how you guys will go about interacting with this post (AND I'D LIKE TO SEE AN INTJ TOO IF POSSIBLE). Thanks for stopping by, even if it's to have a look. Have a good day! (or night?) <3

It appears people with hightened sense of intuition have a laser sharp focus which can intimidate people which is akin to third eye of lord shiva in hindu mythology.

Also brahma the creator akin to architect

And vishnu the preserver with harmonizing qualities

Any thoughts or views on this?

Extending this, are hindu gods brahma, shiva and vishnu in hindu mythology indicate the qualities of person who activated mandala psyche, kundalini with chakras and hightened sense of spirituality like awakening which are simply put achieving laser sharp Ni?

Why this connection seems so intriguing? Also, the person who wrote created these characters is likely an Ni dom. Is this some form of communication from the author of hindu mythology to the current generation.

Can any one connect the dots?

I am curious how my fellow intjs especially younger ones (teens and in their 20s) are coping up with the shitty world around you and how are you guys are managing your trauma? Did you find anything which helps? I would like to know! Thanks for the replies in advance! I appreciate every response and the time you spent going through my post!

Help me.

My brother is an intj. I want to know more about how he's thinking. I often feel like I don't give him enough time to respond to something I say, and I've been trying to stop and listen more, estps will understand. He told me once his trickster function is the one that makes you not aware of people's emotions. I feel like I can see him so hard and how he's feeling I just don't know how to begin talking about it. We had a really rough and distant childhood and we both want to reconnect and we're trying. But it's obvious that i dont know how to navigate it and neither does he. I know the only solution is to just talk to him but I wanted to get some other perspectives first. Thank you and sorry for the rambly post!

Any INTJs that took the myer briggs test several times because they didn’t believe the results? I took it three times and one of the times ask my SO for his perspective.

as a person who has no idea wich mtbi I am and can't formulate and bounds with anyone despite actually being abled to start a chat and even benefit from that person I don't want to be that person, I have tried many times to connect with people on a deep level but they never understand it

I had a very important exam recently, and I failed it. This delayed my college career by almost a year. The reason I failed, in my opinion, is that I didn’t do enough exam-related questions. I dived deep into most of the course materials while ignoring some parts. I knew enough to pass but still failed due to a lack of practice and confidence, which came with it. Before the exam, I was certain I wasn’t going to do well.

I was aware of this before the exam. I knew I had to do more practice problems; I even observed that I can improve faster than most people taking the same course. Even though I knew I had to do these, I procrastinated. Fifty percent of the time, it was productive procrastination. I read books (non-fiction) that weren’t really related to the exam, and I dived into different fields of study. I can't get myself to do practice problems, which are what I should be doing. The other fifty percent of the time was spent mindlessly scrolling.

I think I tend to avoid exam-related studies because thinking about the exam is stressful. Looking back, I cringe a lot. Now I have to take the exam for a second time. I've designed some systems to avoid making the same mistakes. I feel like I can do this this time, but I feel very sad. I've always thought of myself as a smart individual. As a child, I dreamed of becoming someone known for his intellect. But now, I've failed to demonstrate even an average amount of intellect. I failed.

I need some real advice, no matter how harsh. I really want to improve and achieve my childhood dream. Is that dream even realistic?

Interpret the question however you want to.

Uhm. I didnt even know what to say until I remembered that he only gets lovey-dovey when he wants the snoo-snoo. Every other time he's doing typical husband alpha crap like "hip bumping" when I bend down, or smacking the "curved peach" when Im busy. He thrives on my inattention as he sees it as a personal challenge.

I dont understand. I do show him affection when he behaves. Especially when he takes the lead and shows off his healthy masculinity. I just didnt think I was so frigid, geez.

For reference, he's an ESTP.

I am a pharmacist and I am INTJ-T. I am curious if there are any other pharmacists in here who pursued academia or public health as their job and how has that been?

Hell is other people - Sartre

The older I get, the more I realize that the Japanese were right all along.

Hikikomori is the most optimal way of living life. Hikikomoris are not sad, depressed people living alone in their rooms. They are the only sane people in this completely insane world. Yeah, they are not partying or "living their life" by mainstream definition but they are infact living their life optimally by the Epicurean definition.

Epicurus did advocate something similar. He said, quit your job that makes you miserable. Go to the country side, gather your friends (non-romantic) and live in a shared housing where everyone has their private rooms, but there is also common room. Then do something that makes you happy, it wont make you as much money as having a job, but it is enough.

In 21st century, the schooling system has been tailored to destroy all unity and pit people against each other. Its basically a form of union busting that indoctrinates children from a very early age to out-compete their fellow man. So, trying to find the group of friends to live in an Epicurean dwelling is challenging or even impossible IMO.

If you take Epicureanism but without also having people who you can trust, you just end up with Hikikomori.

Everything else lines up. Hikikomori is as good as it gets in the 21st century.