I seem to not relate to either or both at the same time and really struggle to differentiate them from each other. Just a Basic question what is the difference between them?

i swear my actual type is Ni Se Fe Ti

- im really not that organized and i have trouble with deadlines and due dates mostly

- hate to admit but i really am a "fake person" but then again with close people i'm more open

- but even with close friends i have to base 90% of my opinions and choices on their opinions

- i definitely have black and white thinking

- i also really want to be a psychologist when I grow up, I always liked helping/diagnosing people with their problems and ofc I really fascinate psychology

- im very clumsy... u can ask anybody who knows even a braincell about me in their lives

- i get stressed a LOT and very easily

- i favor morality a lot of the time and i try my best to be polite with everything (idk if that helps)

- i make predictions and odd observations that become true and im interested in spirituality

- i feel like i use Ti and Te equally, but i do like puzzles and whatnot but i definitely dont use Te or Ti as my first or second

- i like living in the moment but i definitely wouldn't say i favor practicality

am i just a really rare type of infj or a really rare type of isfp.?

can anybody help me I know typing isn't exact but I really can't tell which type I'm most like 😭

edit: after doing more research i think i might just be an infj I'm just afraid to admit it bc they're the most mistyped

How discerning are you ISFPs when it comes to forming friendships? Like, are you selective about who you become friends with, or do you just go with the flow somewhat passively and kinda let the other person establish connections etc?

Would you be uncomfortable if someone you've talked to only a few times asked you to exchange contacts?

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I posted here a couple times recently about an ISFP (9w1 so/sp probably) I met at work. Last week I asked her if she'd want to grab a coffee sometime, to which she responded really politely "oh! um.. umm.. I've had plenty of coffee, you're very kind for asking!" To my surprise she didn't seem put off or get uncomfortable around me after this and continued to greet me like usual. So anyway I figured I could still make friends with her (and honestly I'd be totally content with that), so yesterday I went and apologized for the "coffee thing" and for being so awkward lol and she was super friendly and accepting about it. (It was very reassuring cuz I'm so used to people totally writing me off when I "come on too strong".)

By now I've come to terms with taking things slowly and do what I can to hopefully build a friendship with her. But again because opportunities are so sparse and not knowing when she'll stop having shifts, I don't really know what to do. For example I planned on sitting with her during our lunch break yesterday but she happened to have a schedule change and took her break at a different time. ( I'm really regretting not sitting with her during previous lunches because I was too shy.)

There's only so much planning I could do that's within my control and I don't want to force things unnaturally. I will be opportunistic and join her for lunch whenever possible, but beyond that, is there anything I should do at all? At this point do I just let fate decide, or would it be appropriate to ask if she's open to exchanging contacts to keep in touch?

I listen to music a lot (obviously since im making this) and I do this thing like 75% of the time when I'm not listening to music where I just sing it in my head and I can do this for hours especially when walking through hallways at school/workplace (I don't work so idk if its the same) and it almost makes me annoyed when I get interrupted by somebody... obviously when I'm with friends I don't do this, but it's like I always have a song stuck in my head when I'm alone when most people dont? at least I would assume idk do u guys relate to any of this?

Yup it’s true. I don’t like cooking I don’t like planning I don’t like a ton of people over my house I don’t like stressing about everyone getting along and feeling like I have to entertain I don’t like wow so much more I can add. Thankfully my boyfriend’s aunt is ordering the food. I just can’t wait till it’s over. Kind of forced into it ( long story). I’ll survive I know, maybe I’ll just be numb by then lol

When my ISFP friend tells me, "You're silent now," could that mean they're enjoying my company or just being polite?

To give some context, I've got an ISFP friend and few times she told I'm quiet now when I haven't reached out or stopped talking for about a month. I'm an introvert myself (INFP), and after initiating conversations for a while, I tend to step back and focus on my own space. I'm curious because this isn’t something I’d typically say; normally, I’d either continue talking with people I want in my life or let go of those with whom I no longer feel a connection. And I understand ISFPs don't tend to initiate frequently, so wouldn't it feel ok to them if someone stops reaching out too? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you!

Edit: Thanks for the replies guys. I did reached out to her and we talked. I was actually wondering this because I thought she would be ok me being silence also.

Share your creative works here, including art, writing, music.

Kim Kardashian has been typed as an ISFP. Shes an interesting study. Her ex Kanye West has been typed as an ENTP.

Anyway I think she checks off many cognitive functions ISFPs have. I've (unwillingly) kept up with her career over time not so much now as I'm thoroughly over the Kardashian empire.

When I was younger, my favorite hobbies was watching animes and play videogames. I know that some types are more prone to reading than others, like INTJ's, INTP's and ENTP's. Now, thinking about my hobbies, i know that I'm looking more like an INTP than an ISFP, all because of my obsession about intelligence. Could it be that one of my values is intelligence and because of it I'm reading or ISFP's also like reading?

Hello, Intj passing through. I'm trying to type my partners dad.. he is definitely isxp. But he's .. Different, quiet. Makes odd decisions. May be on the spectrum. But there's no way to even Remotely come close to bringing that up in his age. & He'd probably feel cornered & secretly overthink it. & Have it effect his mood for weeks.. or probably months.. maybe years, the ones he has left..

He's definately reactive to those around him. If someone's feeling something (especially negative) then he's suddenly feeling it. He definately thinks too much. But I don't know if that's Thinking, or just unexpressed emotions, because he doesn't talk. Unless it's an 'oh yeah' or ' Jesus' 'oh fuck no' So I'd like opinions on what an unhealthy isfp looks like. Because he is.. that. But I'm sugar coating it for posterity ..

The basis. I'd like to know what would be triggering.. because he lives with us.. & I'd like him to not be constantly buzzing with stress because its very catching.. & effects our lives /schedules.

ISFPs, I’m curious what gets you guys to commit to keeping in touch with friends when you no longer share a space. As an ENFP we normally get along super great, but I do notice a tendency for XSFP types, especially ISFP to go MIA once we don’t share a physical space. I get that you guys are more in the moment and prefer sensory experiences, and I also would rather stay in touch in person too but sometimes that’s not an option. It sucks to see friends I love just kinda disappear from my life like that. I see all my friendships as a lifetime commitment. For reference, whenever I bring these issues up with ISFPs they always apologize and tell me they’ll be better and that it’s not personal- but things don’t really change. Is there anything that you’d want a friend to do in this situation? Or should I just continue letting these friends go?

Ive believed i was an entp for a while but i constantly doubt my type

Its been two years and ive gone everywhere from infj —> infp —> isfp —> esfp —> istp —> intp —> entp —> and now back to entp

And before you mention cognitive types, ive looked up deep dives, read a bunch of docs, been learning deeper stuff about the functions in my free time, but i still cant decide which two letter phrases describe me better

This sucks. Anyone relate? How did you know you were an isfp?

Yes im a moody teen, is that why im confused? Maybe, but i want to hear from all of you

I might be an isfp, i might an infj, i might be an entp, i might even be an enfp, but this sub has got to be the most mbti-driven and accurate sub thus far

Actual real mbti talk on here, it’s great, you guys are great so thank you

I took the new Cs Joseph test (the new long version) and got isfp twice. Also SDUF in the octagram test. idk what you'd like to know to help me figure it out, so plz feel free to ask me any questions to help figure out my type. Thanks alot!!!

I'm pretty certain I'm ISFP in terms of cognitive functions but every time I took the 16p test I get ENFP, ENTP or INFP, never ISFP.

The last time I took the test is super long ago so I don't know that'd be still the case but I wanted to see if other ISFPs feel the same.

I hate that people can figure out what mbti you are just by saying you like arts or doing arts. But at the same time, I'm over here doing every single aspect of art for the sake of finding my fire💀 I cannot be hating if I'm the one doing arts as well but I do feel bad for others who are ISFP and people assume they can do art but actually can't

INTJ F here.

Met this ISFP dude at work months ago, since then he moved to another city now (hour away by plane). He's going back to his home country soon (probably study in another in a couple of months). I like him. He makes me feel calm and I feel no expectations coming from him. I think the way he approach life is very admirable despite the lackness he feels. He's brave, dgaf, and just trying to live his life. I also don't know how to explain it, but at least for me, i think we connect on another level that I don't really feel with the other people.

At the beginning, I thought it's a plain superficial crush that would go away by time but it's not anymore. The idea of him leaving breaks my heart and he doesn't really show upfront interest in me. In the couple of months we shared together, we talk amost everyday via text, still casual tho. He mostly replies in the morning, afternoon, and night as he's working the whole day. However, this is nothing compared to the amount and quality of information he shares in person. Lately, he shared how he feels scared of how uncertain his future is as he doesnt even know what he wants. I feel like he does need to go, to figure out his life and be who he is but a big part of me just want to scream stay or at least stay connected with me. But I know it's impractical for him and he'll probably forget about me as ISFP tend to live in the moment and only consider what their senses feel. Cause if it were only up to me, I'll be fine with a long distance set up as long as he wants me too.

Idk why am I even writing this, I know Im already fucked. He could live his life and travel to whatever country he wants but he's already deeply engraved in me. Although INTJ are known planners, I know we suck at letting go someone truly dear to us as it's hard to come by. I actually just don't know what to do anymore.

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Hey everyone! I’m posting because I’ve been trying to figure out my MBTI type, but I keep running into a wall. I have diagnosed ADHD, and I think I’m either an ISFP or an INFP, but it’s hard to separate what might be my true personality type from what could just be ADHD traits. The more I dive into both, the more they seem to overlap in ways that leave me feeling even more confused.

I’ve been masking throughout my life, which makes me feel like I’m everything and nothing at the same time. I’ve always struggled with my identity and authenticity, and masking has made me feel like a chameleon. I hate it because it feels like I’m not being my true self by constantly adapting and hiding my ADHD, and authenticity is really important to me. When it comes to MBTI, I sometimes feel like I see it in black and white, even though I know personality can be fluid. I want to understand myself in a more nuanced way but struggle to get there.

I’ve read that INFPs are introspective and tend to go deep into their feelings, which resonates. But then I think, “Is this just my ADHD hyperfocus on self-analysis?” I’m always analyzing myself and others, almost obsessively, because I feel this constant need to understand why I think and act the way I do. I know people without ADHD can feel that too, but for me, it feels amplified.

On the other hand, ISFPs are often described as present and in touch with their physical surroundings, which really speaks to me. I need to see, smell, touch… to understand information. I’m really passionate about concrete things—like insects, which are one of my big interests. I definitely notice the small details in my environment—unless I’m feeling overstimulated. But again, is this my personality or just ADHD sensory sensitivity?

I’ve noticed a lot of other INFPs mentioning they have ADHD, which makes me wonder if certain MBTI types naturally share traits with ADHD or if there’s just a lot of overlap.

Has anyone else with ADHD struggled with this? How do you separate what’s core to your personality from what’s influenced by ADHD?

I’d love to hear from people who’ve had similar experiences or have tips on how to sort through it all.

Thanks in advance for your insights!

P.S.: Apologies because I’m hyperfixating on the MBTI at the moment—it’ll pass, but for now, I really want to sort this out.

I even used cognitive functions and I am confused about Ne vs Ni. I know Ne means the brain has a brainstorm while Ni tries to connect concepts together into a "funnel". I started to think I used Ni due to how I am very bad at brainstorming and I also think I use Se even though I am terribly clumsy(I partake in Se things like riding motorcycles, listening to music, creating music, trying new food, or making art). Although the thing about me is that I am into parallel universes although I try to search for the big unifying theory about the multiverse rather than try to spew out ideas. I also try to simplify concepts to better understand things myself. I like this video game called Red World where the Soviet Union won the Cold War and it intrigues my Ni since it is a story with a very deep meaning of socialism, authoritarianism, and how the United States would collapse. I connect things and bring them inward in my mind, which means I use Ni. I also have high Fi due to me having appreciation for aesthetics. Although maybe I just want to be an ISFP... What are your guys thoughts?

i just wanna know how ISFP appears like how they talk and the way they use Fi
what is the Fi-Ni things
and how to use it
i want to roleplay being an ISFP i mean it is weird but it is just an imaginative idea to understand my superego ISFP

There’s a story I’m creating one of the themes is self discovery although Mbti won’t be mentioned it is used as inspiration for world building.

16 lands(each one representing a type) and 8 functions as powers. It’s like Hunter x Hunter where there are 6 types of aura that is their power system. How they use it is completely based on the person

At first I thought For Fi users I’ve come up with that their power comes from within. It forms of oneself, this could be desires, emotions, values, their body pretty much anything that involves themselves and who they are as person as a way of self expression. (Ex. Make their body indestructible, using emotional energy as weapon, Astral projection.)

Passive- High Pain Tolerance

Someone told me that wasn’t right with Fi and I’m having trouble trying to find the best way to express Fi accurately while also making it an ability. I also thought functions could counter each other like Fi countering Fe but how? What ideas do you have?

Also only leaders can are able to use four functions normally civilians can only use 1. Although down the stack it’s less strong and if they’re in distress such as in despair or in danger they go through looping with their first and third function making it a toxic power. How would you use your functions?

I have a friend who constantly reminisces about his past. He talks about times he had in high school and times we had several years ago. Even people who I think aren’t worth mentioning because they are/were horrible. He is also extremely nostalgic, and that’s more so where I can connect with him (I like the idealized version of the past rather than how it was) as opposed to the former.

I can recognize that there were good and bad times, but most often I can only associate my past with negativity, so I don’t like to sit there for too long. I’d rather we move forward, talk about our future goals, or things that are happening in this time frame.

I am open to talking about the past if it’s about introspection, but I don’t want to be so attached to it that I forget to live right now or I never appreciate what’s to come. I also emphasize introspection, because I have siblings who bring up the trauma we went through, but instead of using it as a method to understand themselves, they use it as punishment for the harm our parents put us through.

So I was curious how other ISFPs felt about the past, as I am unsure if I’m an INFP or ISFP.

Do you reminisce fondly?

Do you feel resistance/annoyance when people bring it up?

Would you rather people be productive if they bring up the past?

all the ISFPs i know are warm people. as an INTJ i'm grateful from the bottom of my chilly heart :]

anybody here got loved ones who are Si users? do they also have phases of “Si-ing” where they clean and organize everything and they force you into it? 😭 i love my mom but she does this all the time and then micromanage how i’m cleaning and organizing the stuff bro chill out might as well do it yourself then 😭😭😭😭 then again i understand how frustrating it is for an Si user seeing things done “incorrectly” but still it’s frustrating especially when she’s constantly mad about it

Is it possible for ISFP to be outside of the 8 and 9 Enneagram Type?

I've done some research and tried to understand myself into learning my Enneagram Type and have the strongest type I have received is 7w8. Is it actually possible of me to receive this type even though it have never been talked about deep enough to understand how this certain ISFP would be like?

Honestly, if it isn't possible, I wouldn't mind doing more research to do a more thorough understanding but I'll be doing this for curiosity and enjoyment for the time being.

until recently i struggled with constantly mistyping myself

it turned into a vicious cycle of me taking the test, getting a result, resonating a lot with the function stack and immediately saying “that’s it”, then deep down starting to feel that something wasnt right, taking the test again, this time getting a different type and here we go again

only when i broke that cycle by journaling, thinking back on my past experiences and how i felt and acted under certain conditions, looking at all cognitive functions and what difference it actually makes if you have this or that dom, aux, tert & inf function, was i able to correctly type myself

i was once again reminded how important self reflection and isolating myself from time to time is lol

what was (or maybe still is?) your guys typing journey and what were your mistypes? mine were ENFP, INFP & ESFP

I have gathered various information from multiple MBTI sources to better understand how Fi works and have synthesized it :

1/ Trust Your Values : Fi often operates internally, providing a strong sense of personal values and emotional truths. Learn to trust these inner convictions, even if others don’t fully understand them. Over time, you’ll recognize how these values guide you in authentic, meaningful ways.

2/ Honor Your Emotional Process : Fi takes time to process emotions deeply and thoroughly. Give yourself space to explore your feelings fully rather than rushing through them. It’s natural for your understanding of situations to develop as you process your emotional responses.

3/ Focus on Authenticity : Fi gravitates toward living in alignment with personal beliefs. Use this strength to stay true to what genuinely matters to you, even if it conflicts with external expectations. Your power lies in creating a life that reflects your authentic self.

4/ Engage in Self-Reflection : Fi thrives in introspection and self-exploration. Engage with art, literature, or personal writing to better understand your feelings and values. This will nurture your natural tendency toward deep personal insight.

5/ Balance with Openness : Since Fi can sometimes create strong attachments to personal beliefs, practice listening to new perspectives. This will help you balance inner convictions with empathy and openness, enriching your worldview.

6/ Reflect on Inner Patterns : Fi often draws from past emotional experiences to guide present choices. Journaling or reflecting on your feelings over time can help you recognize how your values have evolved and strengthen your self-awareness.

7/ Create Time for Solitude : Fi typically works best in quiet, private moments. Carve out time in your schedule to be alone with your thoughts and feelings, giving you space to process without external influence or judgment.

Please feel free to give your opinion.

Check the other MBTI subreddit or my profile to see the summary of the other functions.