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There's some information about intuition that is not being told in mbti community. God gave everyone intuition for a reason. It's hidden knowledge and creativity that God gives us. Intuition is also given us aso a guide to our higher self's and spirituality. Our intuition is a guidance to what's right or what's wrong, to give us warning signals when something is off, to give us information from God, to guide us to higher levels of awareness, to help our spirit to become awaken, and to connect more into the spiritual realm than physical realm.
The mbti website makes being a sensor (not listening to your intuition) sound normal. It's not normal to be a sensor. Sensing forcus on physical realm with our five senses rather than going spiritual by listening to our intuition(our six sense) . The physical realm is really just a illusion we are really spirits in a school to learn life lessons and to become like God.
(Se) which is Sensing Extrovert being overly attached to physical realm and physical pleasures like sports, games, inappropriate behavior is the lower self. The Adventurers types ESFP, ESTP, ISFP, and ISTP are too attached to physical realm and physical pleasures with low (Ni) which is to help us go to our higher self's and spirituality.
(Si) which is Sensing Introvert with low (Ne) is being less acceptable to new ways of thinking , change for God's kingdom and new things. The Sentinels types ESFJ, ESTJ, ISFJ, and ISTJ are closed minded for newer ways of thinking and doing things with low (Ne) which is to help us be opened minded for new things and change God wants
(Ni) is intuition that is inside of us as a guidance to higher self, spiritual awakening and God.
(Ne) is open-mindeness so we'll be accepting to new ways of thinking and change so we'll be opened to God's new kingdom
The Adventurers with high (Se) and low (Ni) is the lower self. God didn't put us on this earth to be overly attached to physicality and play all day. This world and universe is a school for our spirits to learn and go higher levels of awakenings and consciousness. When we forcus to much on physical realm we are ignoring our real reason why we are here. We are here to become like our father (God) .
The Sentinels with high (Si) and low (Ne) is rejecting newer ways of thinking. When God brings in his kingdom we can't stay in our old ways. Our minds have to be renewed and opened to new things and new ways of thinking. When God brings in his kingdom he's going to make everything new and want people to be renewed in our thinking so we become new creatures.
One thing is wrong about mbti when it says our personality types cannot change. Listening to our Intuition is a option not permanent. God gave everyone intuition. Intuition is not only available for a few or some group people. Everyone has intuition. If a sensor finally decides to listen to their intuition then their intuition gets stronger the more they listen to it. When we ignore our intuition it gets weaker. Sensors can become intuitives the more they start listening to their intuition. Being a sensor(choosing not to listen to their intuition) is a option but can change anything if the person decides to listen to it.
Killing our intuition is a crime towards God and we can get into trouble. If we become darker and eventually end up killing our intuition we are setting up ourselves for death spirituality. Try keeping your intuition alive as it helps keeps you alive spirituality.
In the mbti community they took God out of the meaning of intuition and made it like a mysterious magical thing that pops out of nowhere. God gave everyone intuition as a guide to awaken the spirit. Introvert intuition(Ni) is the self-accusing spirit that is inside of all of us in hopes we listen to it to awaken the spirit. The more we listen to it the stronger the voice becomes and the more awakened we become spirituality.
The mbti community made it seem like it's normal for us to ignore our (Ni) so we can stay asleep and be dead spirituality. It's not normal for us to ignore our (Ni) it's the inner guidance for spiritual awakening, God, and higher self. (Ni) is not only just a gut feeling that warns us when to stay away from trouble it's also our self-accusing spirit that tells us what's right and what's wrong and gives us guilt when we do something bad.
When we do evil and feel guilty about it that's our (Ni) talking to us and it shows we are spiritually awake but when you can do evil and feel nothing that's a sign of lack of (Ni) and spiritual blindness/death.
I noticed there are a lot of fake intuitives in the mbti community. People think being a "intuitive" makes them special because they "choose" to listen to their intuition. Everyone has intuition. Intuition is not only for a few people or small group of people. Everyone has it. Intuition is listening to our nature we were created/self-accusing spirit in hopes we come back to our nature which is obedience to God. Our nature is to be righteous and submission to God. Listening to your intuition doesn't make you better than other people.
Some fake intuitives only want to listen to their intuition so they can feel special and smarter than others. That's not what intuition was made for. Intuition was made to awaken the spirit so we can become God and reach higher levels of awareness. It seems like most "intuitives" only wanted to listen to their intuition for negative purposes and to make themselves feel special. Being a "intuitive" doesn't mean being interested/studying in science, computer programming, abstract conversations, meaningful conversations and etc.
A real "intuitive" is someone who is in complete submission to God. When you submit yourself to God your self-accusing spirit/intuition becomes stronger and your spirit will be wide awake.
Intuitives can also lose their intuition and become sensors. When we become dark and evil our intuition gets weaker and we lose our creative powers. The darker we become our intuition gets weaker and if dark enough we could end up also killing our intuition. God doesn't give intuition to the wicked and the rebellious . Intuition is for the righteous and was made to keep us spiritually awake. When someone ignores their intuition or becomes dark they go into sensor mode which is spiritual blindness.
When we become evil and in rebellion towards God we lose
There are a lot of fake INFJs, INTJs, ENTPs, ENFPs, etc. INFJs/INTJs with (Ni) as their dominate function means they should have a strong self-accusing spirit and should be spirituality awake. If you see a INFJ/ENFJ/ENTJ/INTJ that can do evil and feel nothing or in rebellion towards God that's a sign they completely lost their (Ni) and they are no longer an INFJ they are a sensor(spiritual blindness). When we disconnect ourselves from God or in rebellion we lose (Ni) or it gets weaken. Listening to (Ni) Is listening to the nature of ourselves (self-accusing spirit) which is obedience to God
Same thing that there are a lot of fake ENTPs, INTPs, INFPs and ENFPs claiming they have (Ne) as their dominate function. When we are in rebellion towards God we lose our creative powers.
There are a lot of fake intuitives that would act like the type, so called claim they are "trying" to listen to their intuition for negative purposes, and study abstract ideas just so they have feel special and have a title of being smart. The one's who think just because they "choose" to listen to their intuition that they are better than other people are really sensors and fake. God does not like proud and arrogant people. When we become arrogant we shut off knowledge and lose (Ne) and (Ni) . If we want a strong intuition we must be humble and submit to God . God doesn't give intuition to the proud, arrogant, and rebellious people
The N > S is better is really silly and foolish. Intuitives think just because they have more knowledge and so called "trying" to listen to their intituion are better. Sensors can gain strong intuition too and become intuitives too if they choose to submit to God and finally listen to their intuition. One thing is wrong about mbti when it says our personality types cannot change. Not listening to our Intuition is a option not permanent. God gave everyone intuition. Intuition is not only available for a few or some group people. Everyone has intuition. If a sensor finally decides to listen to their intuition then their intuition gets stronger the more they listen to it. When we ignore our intuition it gets weaker. Sensors can become intuitives the more they start listening to their intuition. Being a sensor(choosing not to listen to their intuition) is a option but can change anything if the person decides to listen to it.
Anyone can become great and smart when they choose to listen to their intuition. God wouldn't make only a few people "special" and leave the rest out. Then it would make God unfair and unjust. Anybody can become smart, great, have creative powers, and do great things because everyone has intuition. God gave everyone intuition not only a small group of people. Any sensor can become great and intuitive if they choose to listen to their intuition. God wants all of his children to become great and intuitive. He wouldn't favor only a few people and leave rest of his children out
We are not supposed to listen to our intuition just to get a special title type, to feel superior, to feel smater than others, to feel special, and for many other negative purposes. We listen to our intuition to become one with God, come back to him and become spirituality awaken. The Inuitives that are arrogant, proud, rebellious towards God, evil and dark are not inuitives they are fake. They just want a title(N type) to feel special and superior to others. Intuition comes from God. The creative ideas, the gut feeling, the hidden knowledge all comes from God. When we disconnect ourselves from God and in rebellion towards him we lose our powers/intuition. The "real" intuitives are the righteous and ones who are in submission to the will of God.
There are a lot of fake physics, fake coming up with ideas, and fake "i have a strong intuition" in the mbti community. People think being good at science, history, computer programming = having a strong intuition. That's not intuition it's just you being good at a topic or subject. And fake physics that are evil and in rebellion towards God are not physics they are just using witchcraft. Using witchcraft and casting spells is not intuition it's satantic. There's a lot of so-called "i found the hidden meanings" in the community. Their so called "getting hIdden information" are coming from fallen angels/demons they are not getting it from God nor their intuition. The so-called "I'm coming up with all these ideas " If they are evil and in rebellion towards God those "ideas" did not came from their intuition it was stolen. When we are evil and in rebellion towards God we lose our creative powers.
Using witchcraft and casting spells is not intuition. Studying science/abstract stuff and being good at a scientific subjects is not intuition. Stealing other people ideas and claiming it as yours is not intuition. Being spiritual, growing in stages of spiritual growth and being in submission to God is intuition.
It seems like everyone want a strong intuition but you can't have a strong intuition if you are evil or in rebellion towards God. To get a strong intuition we have to connect ourselves with God and go up levels of self spiritual development. The more we connect ourselves with God and develop our spirits the stronger our intuition becomes. The more we disconnect ourselves from God and not develop our spirits the weaker our intuition becomes.
Do not try to listen to your intuition for the purpose of wanting to feel superior to others or feel special. God wouldn't only make a few people special and leave the rest of his children out. God is just and treats all of his children equal. People in the mbti only want a strong intuition only so they can brag about it and feel special. God does not give people a strong intuition if they are proud, arrogant and only want to listen to it for selfish/negative intentions.
The definition of intuition had been oversimplified to just "gut feeling" and "coming up with idea's". Intuition is more than just " gut feeling " and "coming up with idea's" . Intuition is the self-accusing spirit that tells us what's right and what's wrong, it's our key to spiritual awakening, to help us see things clearer(coming out of spiritual blindness), and to help connect ourselves to God. God had been completely taken out of the definition of intuition and been limited to just listening to your gut and coming up with ideas. Listening to your gut and coming up with new ideas is just the basic levels of intuition. There are higher levels of intuition. The more our spirit is developed and more we connect ourselves to God our intuition gets stronger and we grow into higher levels of intuition. When we go into higher levels of intuition we start seeing things brigher, clearer and grow into more self-awarness. The more when we don't develop our spirit and disconnect from God the more our intuition gets weaker and we come into spiritual blindness and don't see things clearly.
There are a couple of agents and fake intuitives in the mbti community. The ones that would say "it's okay to be a sensor" , "being a sensor is fine" or "everyone is just different. When someone chooses to ignore their intuition" are agents and snakes that what you to stay into spiritual blindness. They don't want you to wake up to what's really going on and want to keep you in the dark.
The mbti community took God out of intuition and made it a "how we see the world" or intuition is a "cognitive function". I could tell the people who made the mbti website are atheism because they are deceiving a lot of people and don't want people to wake up on what's really going on. They hide the true meaning of intuition because they want everyone to stay asleep and be dead spirituality. The post is not a religion thing it's to get people to wake up spirituality. Submitting to God is not a religion it's a way of life and our nature
Have you guys ever got so open to any strangers and could talk about anything.
But the moment they want to add you on Instagram or basically wants to keep in contact for maybe friendship status.
I got spooked and I just have them to add me on WhatsApp so I can ignore them later.
What do you guys think
Jut got in a mild motorcycle accident and honestly the rush of danger and the pain i am feeling thrilled my ass off. Am relatively fine but i haven't stopped smiling and have an insatiable urge to rewatch fight club. Overcoming pain was largely satisfying
Have you ever dated one? Would you date one? I'd like to know more bc my thoughts about this dynamic is either the cutest example of opposites attract or really bad chaos lol
Wassup ESTPs!
Are you extroverted even with strangers much older than you? Or are you quieter at times like these and when there's not much to do with you? For example, let's say you're like 17, 18 years old, would you talk a lot to a stranger who doesn't have the same interests as you and is very far from your age?
I'm and ISTP, and I'm slowly getting more and more bored of this place, I usually find fun stuff to do on the spot when I'm out, but now I can't seem to come up with anything. I usually just go out and figure it out, now it just seems like the same thing everyday.
Basically I need a really strong Se user, you guys as the most fun I've had was with other ESTPs I've known, to tell me ways to make my day to day more fun. I'm a university student, I don't know people at Uni, I'm at Uni on the weekdays and I go back home on the weekends and go out with my friends.
That's a dumb baseless stereotype. ESFPs have Se-Te so they know how to get things done. Their Fi makes them fight for their own beliefs. And of course, Se makes them seek thrills, and conflict is thrilling. If anything, ESTPs are more conflict avoidant than ESFPs because of tertiary Fe.
Just because they are feelers doesn't mean they are people pleasing and conflict avoidant. You have to look at the functions.
Hi guys. A lot of people think Donald Trump is an ESTP but I beg to differ. I can see why people think Trump is ESTP because the way he talks sounds really like sensors - say it as it is. But ENTJ has very active Se ter and quite frankly ENTJ is the least intuitive type of the intuitives. Of course ENTJ would sound like a sensor. You know who is an ENTJ and speak like sensors as well? Gordon Ramsay. That is just how ENTJ express themselves, very direct and concrete.
Now it's not the main point of this post. I just recently realize a very distinctive difference between these two types. In leaderships, ENTJs are the ones who literally appoint themselves to the position to take charge 9 out of 10 times because that's just how Te works. They must organize things to the most efficient way and desire the position of leaderships. Which is what Trump does - take charge intentionally.
Now ESTPs. Teddy Roosevelt didn't take charge intentionally, he didn't care about the president position at all. He literally is appointed by people running his president campaign without him. Now that I think that is because maybe ESTP may want to take charge but only when others can't do their jobs. ESTP would happily just chill out and see what happens lol.
Your opinions?
I’m talking to a guy which I have a hunch is an ESTP 7w8. Absolutely no shame. Asked me the first time we hung out while he was trying to find his friend in a crowded area, “I’m gonna start yelling, don’t get embarrassed.” Another thing, while he’s in the middle of talking, he finds something interesting, comment on it and ask “Uhh what was I saying before?” He’s also very charismatic with strangers. He’s got a bit of childish interests which he is aware of.
Now the thing is, he’s not that bad in real life if you ask him the right questions. He’s just very bad at texting it’s hard to gauge him. I’m not fond of texting myself because I’m a busy person and I think texting is a waste of time. His replies are short and difficult to think what topic to follow up with. This is just the first time I’ve encountered someone like this because everyone is so chronically online nowadays, texting has to be a staple. I’m an INTJ 1w9. It’s a terrible match in theory but I’m trying to test my limits.
I keep to myself in class. Everybody else already has their groups, but I don’t really have anyone. One day, the professor would give us a bunch of class time to let us do a project. My crush comes up to me and offered to help me with my schoolwork. I was honestly kind of surprised. I didn’t even think he was talking to me at first. He was.
I don’t know what it means.
I'm also an ESTP, I'm not the kind of person who thinks about the past or the future.
But I have serious problems with daydreaming and creating unrealistic scenarios involuntarily (because of my childhood). But even though they're daydreams, they're not fictional or unrealistic thoughts, they're about things I'd like to experience here, within the laws of physics, lol.
I wanted to know if other ESTPs go through this. This issue has made me doubt my mbti many times.
You guys keep me sane, literally.
Not only you are funny, great conversationalists and overall a pleasure to talk to, you also taught me a lot. Months ago, when I first joined, I could only think about what was going to be, I felt safe in my illusion of control of a planned future. Your posts and comments gave me the courage to enjoy the present, you felt safe in it so I learned to be too, that I shouldn't escape the moment wishing for better things ahead. Good or bad things didn't matter, living did. I've grown a lot and very quickly with you, to the point that I find myself telling others to take a step back and not obsess over what seems will happen or what could happen, as accidents in the future are a future problem, and as much as we think we can control them by planning miles ahead, we can't predict the course of life.
Thank you for giving new perspectives, thank you for being you. Take care beautiful people ❤️
PS: My grammar is shit since English is my third language, I apologise in advance. As a fellow grammar nazi (in my native language), I hope I didn't trigger anyone.
Brainstorming what to get for my ESTP (m) partner! Tell me anything specific from fancy items to inexpensive personalized gifts.
I got him a super nice Montblanc wallet last year, he loved it so much and almost cried. I can’t afford the same this year, but still want to make him feel insanely loved and cared for.
As an INTJ, dating feels like a chore. Since I am not flirty at work or at the gym, and in general, I turn to dating apps to meet new people.
I guess I would like to welcome a change in mindset cos I tend to be overly serious. This scares away/overwhelms potential people during first dates. At the same time, it attracts people who would like a girlfriend experience because of the habit of it.
I met my 7 year ex bf on a dating app and recently I ket a wonderful ESTP who helped me focus on the present moment. Unfortunately, it didnt work out after 3 dates.
But I know I have a lot to learn from ESTPs. What's your mindset when dating? How is it not a chore that leaves you kind of negative when things don't go well. Or do you just pick yourself up?
Or do I just pace myself as an introvert?
Alright so I saw the last post about how you guys didn’t get a love letter. I’m too lazy to write a letter so I just wrote a poem. ESFPs always have your back 😉
Science has triumphed but science has failed,
The sun is a hoax, the ESTP prevails,
You fear you’ve misheard me, but you’ve heard just right,
The earth revolves around the ESTP, not the sun masquerading as light,
The fire of the ESTP provides light and energy,
Motivates us to chase their excellency,
Not through convention, but through fearless bravery,
Even obstacles lie at the ESTP’s mercy,
The playboy, the jock… I prefer the term “conqueror”,
They threaten the timid who hide behind armour,
Reckless, impulsive… I prefer the term “confidence”,
Knowing they’ll prevail despite unforeseen consequences
A threat to the timid but an ally to the receptive,
Not only the receptive but also the perceptive,
ESTPs discern the genuine from the fraudulent,
Effortless perception tends to make people nervous,
The original trailblazer is the ESTP,
Somehow immovable, persevere as they bleed,
I’ve known ESTPs as both a lover and a father,
Their brilliance could never be lost on me
— ESFP
Okay one or two of those lines actually went soooo hard bro you can’t convince me any different
Anyways hope you liked the love and admiration
Am an estp guy and absolutely don't care that much about love. I like pretty girls and i like fun, combining these two makes me happy but never for too long. I check out of relationships quick whenever I feel it starts to become work i.e doing shit i don't find engaging just to please the girl continously like everyday calls, meeting her friends or making the relationship weirdly serious too fast. This though has not been something I have experienced dating Se users such as ESFPs and ISFPs as opposed to dating NFs who always romanticize even agreed upon in stone FWB arrangements to the point I just naturally dip out. You can just say SPs are better at the less serious relationships i now want but the point am trying to make is that compatibility matters to me in a relationship and it reduces a lot of friction that can make relationships draining. So my question is, have you ever been in an estp x estp relationship and how would you describe its nature, feasibility on the long run, where friction was happening in the relationship and if it ended how is your relationship with them currently
Do u ever found ESTJs attractive?
I’m typically attracted to ESFP, ISFP, ISFJ, ENFP, ExFJ
ISFJs are often named as being particularly attracted to ESTPs.
So, my sisters and I talked about emotional intelligence, something they planned due to Thanksgiving. I got the chance to reflect on things ive said and done (I apologized, which is more than the abuser can say), and i realize I'm a lot like my abusive parent(something i hate enough to want to change), I can come off aggressive in conversation and have a bad temper just like my father.
When it came to talking about him ngl I've been down this road and tried talking to him in the past about it. I'm still not good at describing how i feel, but i recognize it damaged me and still does to this day.
I mainly talked to my dad about why i don't talk to him about emotional stuff and that I'm bad at it.
(we had an argument the other day while i was trying to defend my sister from his excessive yelling as she was trying to explain herself but he kept cutting her off and as she's autistic and was getting really overwhelmed, i tried to explain for her or at least get him to listen. He accused her of ignoring him when he called her to help bring in groceries when she was trying to look for her shoes so she can run to the car, she was trying to say that but he wouldn't let her get a word out; he has an issue with people not doing things/responding when he wants, a real control freak)
The conversation went in the direction of a similar situation that happened a few months ago, really traumatizing for me because he overreacted and I was in a vulnerable position when he burst into my room. He told me to do the chores earlier, i said I'd do them, he saw me cooking myself breakfast and even tho i didn't say i need a moment to eat first, i thought he'd understand if I get to it a little while later. The chores will still be there after I eat. He still angrily came in a screamed at me, and i communicated how it was crossing a line that he didn't knock or consider my privacy at all.
We went over that and his negative reaction after that, and he was saying i should've just done my chores the exact time he told me to do it. And then he went into this ridiculous story about how when i was born, it was later than they expected so he brought that up as he often did to basically say that I'm chronically late in doing things. This isn't the first time he's mentioned it and i even asked why that's even an example. I can't control how or when I'm born, but even when i was starting to get emotionally distressed because he was repeating the same words he's always screamed at me when I was a kid, he was making jokes and laughing at how it affected me, saying. The purpose was not just to talk about my issues but also his and all he did was blame me for making him act like that.
I've spent about 2 decades waiting to see some sort of remorse or change to his behavior and have tried being civil and talk about things with him, only for the result to end up the same. As a kid, it made me cry, as a teen he made me cry. And today, i couldn't hold back tears because he did that same narcissistic shit again, and none of my sisters get why i just can't trust him anymore and him being chill is only gonna last for so long, I've know him longer.
After that i gave up, I no longer see the point in doing this again if i keep getting the same result, but I'm also so sick of being told to forgive. I hate my dad so much, and i guess this is more like venting than an actual cry for help.
But if there was anything at all that i should've done differently? Loke am i crazy for just quitting on him and not trying to have a relationship with a parent like that? I already have to struggle to get a single "sorry" from him, and not without him needing me to know it was my fault for getting him riled up.
I'm currently making plans to get my license and just save my money because I just want to leave so bad, i can't even enjoy the Thanksgiving feast, but i know what i need to do to move out one day.
It's late and I'm tired so if it doesn't make sense then i need more sleep.
Is this normal for you? Usually I would see this as a red flag but we have really strong chemistry and have a lot of fun together. It doesnt feel forced. We started dating a few weeks ago.
I need more alone time (INFJ) but he seems to get slightly offended when I turn him down but it's nothing personal. I wish I could keep up with him but he has so much energy and does so much. I'm worried that this energy imbalance will cause problems.
Is this normal for you?
Hello, INFJ here. I feel like this is not talked about enough. ESTP and ISTP are absolutely the best healers in my opinion because unlike xNFJs who sugarcoat too much, xSTP shower the wounded with truth even if it hurts. ESTP and ISTP teach how can one heal themselves which xNFJ often fall short because they censor their words too much because you know, their golden pairs are ENFP for INFJ and INFP for ENFJ, of how sensitive and how much lies and fantasies xNFP crave to live in their own "beautifully tragic stories".
No no, this is not the way. I love how straightforward ESTP and ISTP are. You are the best healers.
do you guys ever feel too overwhelmed and you just start sitting in silence?
I’ve noticed this about myself as a estp. when I need some down time or if I’m really tired I just sit in silence and look and observe everything around me, this just calms me down a lot.
but I don’t do it for an extended period of time because my friends always ask me ‘why do you look so sad’, and I just say I’m tired because I don’t want to open up to them.
what other methods do you guys use to take a break from the world?