So: "When ESTPs taps into their (suppressed demon function) Ne, they may fall into a mental loop of destructive thoughts and overthinking. Consequently, they get stuck in their own conspiracy theories trying to understand and connect all the patterns in this world"

personally I dunno abt all of it but after developing my Ne I had to work at grounding the possibilities. Was wondering if anyone else relates to the quoted text

p.s. the (text) is what was written, but I disagree with the terminology so I replaced the word use with Ne, leaving the original in parenthesis

I think he might be one of y’all. His movies always give that machismo, lots of explosives, heroism etc etc and I’m wondering if his success in Hollywood is due to his ESTPness.

Thanks cousins!

i always thought i (estp) talk much but in comparison to my (esfp) brother i dont, like at all. i sometimes just think about it in my head and i only talk when its needed, but he cuts people off and doesnt even realize it, its like he never stops. so im wondering if yall are the same

I need someone I can be accountable to. I know it's too much to ask...but all I can do is try. Before I get to therapy, I thought I could just get some help from anyone of you here who has been able to move past depression.. Someone who is action oriented.

Hey! I just wanted to ask you how your tertiary function Fe works on you guys :). Also, could you give me examples of how Fe works when it’s not developed yet? And did you find it useful to develop your Fe? (If yes, what for? I.e., in which situations do you take advantage of this function or its use simply benefits you?). I’m also curious about how your loop works… I’ve heard from ENTPs who also have tertiary Fe that they become “people pleasers” sometimes, does this also apply to you? Explain me how it works pls :)

Recently, I got drawn into an ESTP seeming guy who told me perfrctly sensible things about a problem I couldn't even unwrap myself.

I am craving for spontaneity and I couldn't have seen this alone.

But he was so clear that he has been single for more than 4 years bec his lifrstyle and character is challenging. He would be ticked off by many prople too.

I managed to tick him off already lol, just curious how things went for others. I might meet another ESTP and would love to be able to handle the interaction better.

I know that ESTP are often stereotyped this way, but from my experience with one, it's the other way around... he's both delighted (finds it funny) by and frustrated by others' stupidity. He says he's bored at work because people can't even do something as basic as check a schedule to see who's working, and he feels like he has no competition or sense of camaraderie with his team.

Ok ok, first of all I am not english speak.

My confusion about my type is maybe because I'm sucking in my depression but anyway.

When I was young I loved play sports (football, not the eggball like Americans believe) run, games but also loved study history and geography (last one because I am a huge fan of formula 1), I never had fear of speak or dance but since my 8 and divorce of parents and my dad marriage with a narcissist what make everything to put me down and destroying my self-esteem, I feel like I losed myself, I become someone what hated sports and get inside of my room play games I stopped of exercise me, because I need go life in a new town with my father I needed exit of karate (what I loved, I really practice twice more times that the other students), I never suffered bullying in my school, I was the lazy smart good grades in my favorites things without study and really bad in others what I hate (because mostly I hated study them, I still sucking with it, everything looks better trying fix my dopamine addiction but is being hard), school become the unique place what k was to be myself and have friends (I tried run from my home 2/3 times, no one well succeeded but I get 2 days in my friend home), I still having my friends since my school days ( since my 9 years having them, I am 25 now). My teenage was idk, same of childhood, same problems no life in my home just hiding and very active social life in school, but no one invited me to hangout, I lived really far of everyone and no way to go there, lot girls was interested in me but I never wanted, but also never used, unfortunately I started get more depressed on it more dopamine (videogames, yt videos, social media, trash food and less exercises or left my comfort zone, it made me a coward depressed) when I stared to go to college the first 2 months was amazing I made friendly with all groups of my year and get really close of senior and junior, I was starting to try to go to parties and boom covid, and i changed of city again and more 2 years in my room again my depression become even worse, alcohol and mj and even more dopamine, I waste 2 yeas in covid and 2 years in depression again, I feel like I waste the best years of my life alone, without enjoy my life, I am really overthinking everything, and is always like "you stupid waste of air, why you don't get out like other people, you don't had any problem what covid can be agressive against, except about I had a newborn young brother and a granny in my home with heart problems), sometimes I think I should be more egoistic, don't give a fuck to anyone and just enjoy my life, but I can't...

Now i stopped with alcohol and mj, trying get less time in cellphone, I am workingout and trying have a better diet, but I am alone in this city in one step to leave college and return to my city and life with my friends, lot them call me to hangout, play sports or get worried when discovered about I was depressed, here... I have no one just loneliness.

Ok maybe it get to emotional...

In general I love sports, games, arts, music but i am also very impulsive, when I am in good mood I am very talkative, flirting and funny, when I am not I get quiet and funny. For some lot girl still waiting date me but I just cannot I am not in good mood I get shy and scared of them, but I also don't have fear of speak, flirting or invite to hangout, but I get scared to say "hey I think you pretty, I can kiss you?" Yep bery stupid because when I say it I get them

Even if it’s just a very casual game with friends? Because when I first met my ESTP friend, he was talking bad about me until I finally stood up to him. Now, he basically does everything for me (I don’t ask him too, I just think he felt bad).

im estp and everytime my esfj mom tells me she loves me or wants to cuddle with me i just cant no matter what, even tho i really really love her, so i was wondering if yall got the same problems and how i can fix this

Neurotic people in my experience have been ok but every time they project their fear and insecurity instead of communicating to ask quesstions/without analyzing evidences drives me nuts.

Last interaction that made me upset was when my older friend traveled far to my hometown to pick up his used "new" car insisted that he drives in roads that I am only familiar with in the dark which created sketchy moments stepping out of lane constantly and almost missing exit despite me giving him direction in advance. (his eye function declined due to age even if he doesnt want to admit)

when I confronted he thought I was going to weave in and out of traffic because I said "I just want to get home asap and sleep" even though he KNOWS I am a responsible driver and driven earlier that day with the same car traveling for hours with respect as per usual.

(for context we've done countless road trips and city driving before without a single incident and we both own and drive high powered cars to understand that you need to respect power, meaning no foundation for bad assumptions).

He apologized after I told him to cut the bullshit with baseless assumptions and it will be easier on him mentally if he just look around the evidence before being sttuborn af.

PS: Flairs

Romantically.

Since we can’t hold hands etc, what are some things that you would want the other to do? What would make you engaged and not feeling bored over time?

Bonus question: what happens when you have a crush on someone, but a friend also likes your crush?

Just curious, what is your texting etiquette as an ESTP? I’ve been talking to one for like 2 years and I’m kind of confused. He texts me most days for spurts at a time, but it’s really surface conversation and dry. We are both “in person” people and extroverted. In person, it’s not weird at all.

I’m not criticizing, (we are long distance and can’t do much), but it doesn’t feel like he enjoys talking to me. He says that text feels cold and like he’s talking to the air, yet he initiates it almost every day. I am not a heavy texter and am busy living life, but this is all we’ve got right now as we both don’t like phone calls. Neither one of us really “carry” the conversation because I know he doesn’t like texting and he also responds without returning a question so it’s just… idk. Feels forced. But neither one of us are pushing the other to participate. 😆

I’d normally just say he’s not into me, but it’s been going on for years, (he says ily), and he is always the first to reach out. I’m not really sure what I can do to make it more exciting for him without taking it to a sexual level. (We tried that, it did not work- won’t get into it.) Neither of us are future planners, either, and I’m a pretty deep person. I don’t text anybody else daily just to say hi.

Do you prefer just quick check-in kind of conversations just to say hello? Does deep conversation annoy you? Would this not bore you as it does me? What’s happening?

I am frequently disrespected by men the most whether they are on my level or working under me & I can't help but feel that they dislike a woman with such a strong personality. Does it happen to you guys as well or am I just encountering one too many napoleons? I'm direct but I don't think I'm a jerk. I just have little patience for the games that people play so sometimes I come off bitchy because I can't for the life of me understand why someone cannot complete a very simple task in a timely manner so that we can gtfo. You can always tell when it's weaponized incompetency & maybe I get a bad rep for calling that out idk.

Hi! I'm an INFJ girl and I talked about my crush on this sub because I didn't know if he was an ENTP or an ESTP. I had enough arguments for ESTP. So, I think he's an ESTP! I had to mention the age because according to our age, we don’t behave the same way.

Anyways, after spending more time with him, I noticed something weird about him. He's usually talkative, chaotic and funny with most people. He likes showing off his skills and his confidence to other girls. But every time he’s alone with me, he’s calm and prudent. It seems like he doesn’t want to make mistakes when I’m around. 

But he also seems to want my attention because he likes touching my stuff when he’s studying next to me, he likes mentioning my name when he’s talking about random things with other people and he even opened up to me about his personal worries. He told me he was anxious about the future because he didn’t know if life would stay the same if a third world war was happening. He seemed deeply concerned and he even had to go to parties to forget about it. He told me he sometimes struggled to stay focused on the present moment. I was moved because I never thought he would be able to show me his vulnerable side when he’s spending most of his time showing his confidence and masculinity to others. We had to work together for an oral presentation. I worked really hard for everyone and he told me he’d mention my name in front of the class because he was thankful for my hard work. 

It’s confusing because I always thought ESTP men looked more flirty and confident when they were around the girl they like based on stereotypes. But my crush acts differently. I’m the one who is discreetly flirting with him with compliments. For example, I told him he looked cute when he was sleeping during lesson sessions. He replied to me with “Thanks, it’s nice!”. He asked me why I was always sitting next to him when I could sit next to a friend of mine during lecture courses. I told him I wanted to stay with him. He also replied with “Thanks, it’s nice”. It’s like he’s on freeze mode every time I’m showing my affection to him. I find it cute because he doesn’t really show this “shy” side with other girls. He even blushed because I told him I analysed his personality for fun. I don’t think it’s because he’s bored or uninterested because he seems to genuinely like me.  

Tell me what you think about it! Thank you! ^^

I journal, research, and think pretty deeply about stuff I’m interested in. I sometimes have to sort through things in my head to come to conclusions. Sometimes it just looks like a simple travel journal that I keep with me.

That is of course whenever I’m not out there actually doing stuff and making an immediate impact.

Is this normally an ISTP thing or do ESTPs do this too? I think it’s prob a Ti thing.

Okay so

I recently met an ENFP who became my friend.

I thought he was awesome. He’s very chill, talented, kinda weird but it’s cool.

When I first met him, he would always call me while drinking. I started to get a bit annoyed he’d call me for no reason and speak nonsense. But I thought it was charming.

Then we started messaging more, we hung out twice, he sometimes says very insightful things but mostly speaks in brain rot which I started to get a bit annoyed by. Still I thought it was charming? Kinda?

then we were alone and we “did stuff”. Nothing too inappropriate, just kissing and stuff because there was other people hanging out with us and we had to be quick.

He is kinda cute to me but it’s just not the vibe. Ya know?

Then we hung out again and did stuff, but nothing much cuz we were in a small car. He made some pretty rude comments about my body as a joke, he was pretty immature. It was awful. I was so pissed. we are the same age btw and i usually go for people older than me by at least… like four to ten years older than me (don’t judge 😭 i like older men)

I told him he upset me and he was acting immature during us trying to get it on. I told him I regret it. He said sorry but he made his apology even worse than before.

It was like saying to someone “your clothes look raggedy! U look poor!” and then saying sorry by saying “I’m sorry… I think it’s cool if you look homeless, I’m chill with that!”

That’s just a comparison because I won’t repeat what he said.

I told him I regret it, he felt hurt, I told him it was immature, and I hate to say it but I don’t feel that good potentially dating someone the same age as me. Sorry if that’s petty, just a preference.

We didn’t talk for a day.

then he asked when are we gonna kiss again…. I ignored that.

Then I told him I was concerned his friend might be a play boy because of the way his friend spoke to me. I had no idea he had a gf. and this ENFP got mad at me and snapped at me, saying his friend has a gf.

I said I was just trying to help. I didn’t know he had a gf and I said I knew a guy who reminded me of his friend and he was cheating on his gf for the whole time so I thought it was scary.

Ugh. It’s a mess.

What should I say or do?

Am I an idiot? Like I feel I’m too dramatic but I have BIG emotions bro like I feel big feelings very quickly.

Some guy showed me how to properly swing a club and I went to a course and was doing far away shots & easily could have made birdies & par 3's if I was better at putting

I'm also really good at three point shots i land almost every one

Yo I’m an ISTP. Wanna know what’s the difference between us on a more realistic view instead of just seeing about definitions on internet that can be interpreted on many ways.

People would describe me as anything but dynamic or high energy and stereotypically it sounds pretty sus for a Se dom to be called slow right ? Also got told that I have a robotic monotonous voice when I’m speaking, y’all can relate to this ?

I can be pretty relaxed and casual with people since I’m type 9 on the enneagram but at some moments I can be really oblivious about the Fe things so I can come across as weird or uncaring at times

I’m curious

i got typed at work with the official test. ive always gotten INFP with online assessments over the years, very consistently. i thought overall it resonated quite well. but when i took this test, the administrator kept emphasizing that we answer as our “ideal selves”. bam i get ESTP and everyone at work, myself included, is shocked! because i do not spoke unless spoken to, i show up, get my work done, and avoid social interactions.

i guess ESTP fits a bit more outside of work, idk, maybe im not in the right career field. now ive been outed as an extrovert and ughhh, i just want to vibe and be free and i hate office small talk but who actually enjoys that? let me go home lmao

Talking or yapping the shit out of things should be considered as a talent because everytime I strike a conversation with someone or even a group of people I'm always the one initiating or running the whole thing. Like I don't show it cuz I don't wanna seem like a wet pathetic ass, but I too get anxious and get saddened cuz people don't show a bit of interest or effort to talk to.

I even talk to bitches I hate but I still talk to them like buds because that's what being a good friend right? U know that inclusive shit even though I don't care, I still try

iterally all I get from most conversations are people's shit. They don't ask me about myself because I do the asking parts 😭 sometimes I get it like I admit that I can be chatty and cuz of that I tend to back out if I'm not getting the enthusiasm in convos or even the emotional support I need. Or if they need some space or smth

Like I run out of things to talk too yknow so STEP UP GUYS !

I always feel burned out after socializing too much with people specially in my work environment I am an infj what's your advice

Estps and esfps are one of the most seductive personalities I have met.You always tend to amaze me specially with the way you look at things