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This is a subreddit dedicated to the ENTJ personality type, according to Western-based 16-type personality frameworks such as Myers-Briggs (MBTI) and Jungian Functions. The Socionics type ENTj also redirects here, albeit to a lesser extent.

ENTJs have a reputation for being task-centric strategic navigators that take things a little too seriously at times, but also appreciate art and serious conversations about emotions and personally held values.

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Hidden information about intuition and exposing fake intuitives

There's some information about intuition that is not being told in mbti community. God gave everyone intuition for a reason. It's hidden knowledge and creativity that God gives us. Intuition is also given us aso a guide to our higher self's and spirituality. Our intuition is a guidance to what's right or what's wrong, to give us warning signals when something is off, to give us information from God, to guide us to higher levels of awareness, to help our spirit to become awaken, and to connect more into the spiritual realm than physical realm.

The mbti website makes being a sensor (not listening to your intuition) sound normal. It's not normal to be a sensor. Sensing forcus on physical realm with our five senses rather than going spiritual by listening to our intuition(our six sense) . The physical realm is really just a illusion we are really spirits in a school to learn life lessons and to become like God.

(Se) which is Sensing Extrovert being overly attached to physical realm and physical pleasures like sports, games, inappropriate behavior is the lower self. The Adventurers types ESFP, ESTP, ISFP, and ISTP are too attached to physical realm and physical pleasures with low (Ni) which is to help us go to our higher self's and spirituality.

(Si) which is Sensing Introvert with low (Ne) is being less acceptable to new ways of thinking , change for God's kingdom and new things. The Sentinels types ESFJ, ESTJ, ISFJ, and ISTJ are closed minded for newer ways of thinking and doing things with low (Ne) which is to help us be opened minded for new things and change God wants

(Ni) is intuition that is inside of us as a guidance to higher self, spiritual awakening and God.

(Ne) is open-mindeness so we'll be accepting to new ways of thinking and change so we'll be opened to God's new kingdom

The Adventurers with high (Se) and low (Ni) is the lower self. God didn't put us on this earth to be overly attached to physicality and play all day. This world and universe is a school for our spirits to learn and go higher levels of awakenings and consciousness. When we forcus to much on physical realm we are ignoring our real reason why we are here. We are here to become like our father (God) .

The Sentinels with high (Si) and low (Ne) is rejecting newer ways of thinking. When God brings in his kingdom we can't stay in our old ways. Our minds have to be renewed and opened to new things and new ways of thinking. When God brings in his kingdom he's going to make everything new and want people to be renewed in our thinking so we become new creatures.

One thing is wrong about mbti when it says our personality types cannot change. Listening to our Intuition is a option not permanent. God gave everyone intuition. Intuition is not only available for a few or some group people. Everyone has intuition. If a sensor finally decides to listen to their intuition then their intuition gets stronger the more they listen to it. When we ignore our intuition it gets weaker. Sensors can become intuitives the more they start listening to their intuition. Being a sensor(choosing not to listen to their intuition) is a option but can change anything if the person decides to listen to it.

Killing our intuition is a crime towards God and we can get into trouble. If we become darker and eventually end up killing our intuition we are setting up ourselves for death spirituality. Try keeping your intuition alive as it helps keeps you alive spirituality.

In the mbti community they took God out of the meaning of intuition and made it like a mysterious magical thing that pops out of nowhere. God gave everyone intuition as a guide to awaken the spirit. Introvert intuition(Ni) is the self-accusing spirit that is inside of all of us in hopes we listen to it to awaken the spirit. The more we listen to it the stronger the voice becomes and the more awakened we become spirituality.

The mbti community made it seem like it's normal for us to ignore our (Ni) so we can stay asleep and be dead spirituality. It's not normal for us to ignore our (Ni) it's the inner guidance for spiritual awakening, God, and higher self. (Ni) is not only just a gut feeling that warns us when to stay away from trouble it's also our self-accusing spirit that tells us what's right and what's wrong and gives us guilt when we do something bad.

When we do evil and feel guilty about it that's our (Ni) talking to us and it shows we are spiritually awake but when you can do evil and feel nothing that's a sign of lack of (Ni) and spiritual blindness/death.

I noticed there are a lot of fake intuitives in the mbti community. People think being a "intuitive" makes them special because they "choose" to listen to their intuition. Everyone has intuition. Intuition is not only for a few people or small group of people. Everyone has it. Intuition is listening to our nature we were created/self-accusing spirit in hopes we come back to our nature which is obedience to God. Our nature is to be righteous and submission to God. Listening to your intuition doesn't make you better than other people.

Some fake intuitives only want to listen to their intuition so they can feel special and smarter than others. That's not what intuition was made for. Intuition was made to awaken the spirit so we can become God and reach higher levels of awareness. It seems like most "intuitives" only wanted to listen to their intuition for negative purposes and to make themselves feel special. Being a "intuitive" doesn't mean being interested/studying in science, computer programming, abstract conversations, meaningful conversations and etc.

A real "intuitive" is someone who is in complete submission to God. When you submit yourself to God your self-accusing spirit/intuition becomes stronger and your spirit will be wide awake.

Intuitives can also lose their intuition and become sensors. When we become dark and evil our intuition gets weaker and we lose our creative powers. The darker we become our intuition gets weaker and if dark enough we could end up also killing our intuition. God doesn't give intuition to the wicked and the rebellious . Intuition is for the righteous and was made to keep us spiritually awake. When someone ignores their intuition or becomes dark they go into sensor mode which is spiritual blindness.

When we become evil and in rebellion towards God we lose

  1. (Ni) which is to help keep us spiritually awake. Losing (Ni) causes spiritual blindness and keeps our spirits asleep and dead
  2. (Ne) which is to help us be opened-minded to God's new ways of thinking. Losing (Ne) causes us to lose our creative powers and become rejectful of God's new thinking

There are a lot of fake INFJs, INTJs, ENTPs, ENFPs, etc. INFJs/INTJs with (Ni) as their dominate function means they should have a strong self-accusing spirit and should be spirituality awake. If you see a INFJ/ENFJ/ENTJ/INTJ that can do evil and feel nothing or in rebellion towards God that's a sign they completely lost their (Ni) and they are no longer an INFJ they are a sensor(spiritual blindness). When we disconnect ourselves from God or in rebellion we lose (Ni) or it gets weaken. Listening to (Ni) Is listening to the nature of ourselves (self-accusing spirit) which is obedience to God

Same thing that there are a lot of fake ENTPs, INTPs, INFPs and ENFPs claiming they have (Ne) as their dominate function. When we are in rebellion towards God we lose our creative powers.

There are a lot of fake intuitives that would act like the type, so called claim they are "trying" to listen to their intuition for negative purposes, and study abstract ideas just so they have feel special and have a title of being smart. The one's who think just because they "choose" to listen to their intuition that they are better than other people are really sensors and fake. God does not like proud and arrogant people. When we become arrogant we shut off knowledge and lose (Ne) and (Ni) . If we want a strong intuition we must be humble and submit to God . God doesn't give intuition to the proud, arrogant, and rebellious people

The N > S is better is really silly and foolish. Intuitives think just because they have more knowledge and so called "trying" to listen to their intituion are better. Sensors can gain strong intuition too and become intuitives too if they choose to submit to God and finally listen to their intuition. One thing is wrong about mbti when it says our personality types cannot change. Not listening to our Intuition is a option not permanent. God gave everyone intuition. Intuition is not only available for a few or some group people. Everyone has intuition. If a sensor finally decides to listen to their intuition then their intuition gets stronger the more they listen to it. When we ignore our intuition it gets weaker. Sensors can become intuitives the more they start listening to their intuition. Being a sensor(choosing not to listen to their intuition) is a option but can change anything if the person decides to listen to it.

Anyone can become great and smart when they choose to listen to their intuition. God wouldn't make only a few people "special" and leave the rest out. Then it would make God unfair and unjust. Anybody can become smart, great, have creative powers, and do great things because everyone has intuition. God gave everyone intuition not only a small group of people. Any sensor can become great and intuitive if they choose to listen to their intuition. God wants all of his children to become great and intuitive. He wouldn't favor only a few people and leave rest of his children out

We are not supposed to listen to our intuition just to get a special title type, to feel superior, to feel smater than others, to feel special, and for many other negative purposes. We listen to our intuition to become one with God, come back to him and become spirituality awaken. The Inuitives that are arrogant, proud, rebellious towards God, evil and dark are not inuitives they are fake. They just want a title(N type) to feel special and superior to others. Intuition comes from God. The creative ideas, the gut feeling, the hidden knowledge all comes from God. When we disconnect ourselves from God and in rebellion towards him we lose our powers/intuition. The "real" intuitives are the righteous and ones who are in submission to the will of God.

There are a lot of fake physics, fake coming up with ideas, and fake "i have a strong intuition" in the mbti community. People think being good at science, history, computer programming = having a strong intuition. That's not intuition it's just you being good at a topic or subject. And fake physics that are evil and in rebellion towards God are not physics they are just using witchcraft. Using witchcraft and casting spells is not intuition it's satantic. There's a lot of so-called "i found the hidden meanings" in the community. Their so called "getting hIdden information" are coming from fallen angels/demons they are not getting it from God nor their intuition. The so-called "I'm coming up with all these ideas " If they are evil and in rebellion towards God those "ideas" did not came from their intuition it was stolen. When we are evil and in rebellion towards God we lose our creative powers.

Using witchcraft and casting spells is not intuition. Studying science/abstract stuff and being good at a scientific subjects is not intuition. Stealing other people ideas and claiming it as yours is not intuition. Being spiritual, growing in stages of spiritual growth and being in submission to God is intuition.

It seems like everyone want a strong intuition but you can't have a strong intuition if you are evil or in rebellion towards God. To get a strong intuition we have to connect ourselves with God and go up levels of self spiritual development. The more we connect ourselves with God and develop our spirits the stronger our intuition becomes. The more we disconnect ourselves from God and not develop our spirits the weaker our intuition becomes.

Do not try to listen to your intuition for the purpose of wanting to feel superior to others or feel special. God wouldn't only make a few people special and leave the rest of his children out. God is just and treats all of his children equal. People in the mbti only want a strong intuition only so they can brag about it and feel special. God does not give people a strong intuition if they are proud, arrogant and only want to listen to it for selfish/negative intentions.

The definition of intuition had been oversimplified to just "gut feeling" and "coming up with idea's". Intuition is more than just " gut feeling " and "coming up with idea's" . Intuition is the self-accusing spirit that tells us what's right and what's wrong, it's our key to spiritual awakening, to help us see things clearer(coming out of spiritual blindness), and to help connect ourselves to God. God had been completely taken out of the definition of intuition and been limited to just listening to your gut and coming up with ideas. Listening to your gut and coming up with new ideas is just the basic levels of intuition. There are higher levels of intuition. The more our spirit is developed and more we connect ourselves to God our intuition gets stronger and we grow into higher levels of intuition. When we go into higher levels of intuition we start seeing things brigher, clearer and grow into more self-awarness. The more when we don't develop our spirit and disconnect from God the more our intuition gets weaker and we come into spiritual blindness and don't see things clearly.

There are a couple of agents and fake intuitives in the mbti community. The ones that would say "it's okay to be a sensor" , "being a sensor is fine" or "everyone is just different. When someone chooses to ignore their intuition" are agents and snakes that what you to stay into spiritual blindness. They don't want you to wake up to what's really going on and want to keep you in the dark.

The mbti community took God out of intuition and made it a "how we see the world" or intuition is a "cognitive function". I could tell the people who made the mbti website are atheism because they are deceiving a lot of people and don't want people to wake up on what's really going on. They hide the true meaning of intuition because they want everyone to stay asleep and be dead spirituality. The post is not a religion thing it's to get people to wake up spirituality. Submitting to God is not a religion it's a way of life and our nature

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2024/12/05
01:27 UTC

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What is your favorite To Do List App?

I tried Structured but didn’t like it. Any recommendations?

8 Comments
2024/12/04
18:45 UTC

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ENTJs and saving face in China

There's this concept in china called "face", 面子(mianzi). It carries with it many connotations that I get the feeling would bother some people, and in particular, ENTJs come to mind, most especially with the "Be patient, as meetings won't always get to the point." What's your experience been, if you've "face"d this concept?

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2024/12/04
15:56 UTC

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ENTJ without goals/ambition

Hello everyone!

I'm 26M, ENTJ 8w9 and a software engineer by profession. For the past year or so, I've been feeling like I haven't been super productive like I once used to be.

I achieved everything I envisioned at age 15 in about 10 years time. Having landed a good job with a comfortable pay, I took some time to bring my life to balance in terms of Fi development, trauma recovery and social life. Nowadays I feel like I'm not really pushing to achieve something - not reading a lot, not really focusing too much on fitness, not envisioning a business. I have long term goals like doing a masters, a job switch etc, but they're so far off that I can't really do much towards them. For the time being, I'm focusing on work, hobbies and trying some new things, but I don't feel like my former "constantly improving / working towards a goal" self. Does anyone else feel this way? What did you do to resolve these feelings?

Thank you.

18 Comments
2024/12/04
13:14 UTC

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mbti is so fucking real

On another note I have so much faith in Carl Jung’s ideas. The way these patterns show up in reality is almost like a beautiful symphony. People do have very distinct personalities and I feel my hyperfixation on it is very justified because isn’t it so fascinating to analyze yourself in relation to the world? People who are quick to dog on it haven’t really considered the implications of what they’re saying. And people who say their type constantly varies when they take a test are simply unaware of themselves. Types are consistent and it all fits into a large puzzle. Now also understanding Ni better I can see how an Ni user is also more likely to immediately identify with this kind of framework.

We’re the kinds of people who take these distinct frameworks and run with it when we see it blatantly occurring in reality. It’s almost to a point where it feels impossible to not bring up mbti in any normal sort of discussion. It’s just because I see it so blatantly how all ENFPs for example are so easily identifiable from a mile away. It’s why perceivers are so happy go lucky and they wish to go at their own speed. Wake the fuck up everyone because mbti isn’t some corporate garbage made to classify people. It’s a system that beautifully classifies people in such a way that it makes every person you meet a mirror of someone you met before. Life is poetic and this predictability of human nature is quite satisfying.

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2024/12/04
01:21 UTC

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How I confused Ne with Ni

I’m 22f and I’m pretty certain I’m an ENTJ at this point who mistyped as an ENTP for several years. Could attribute this to many things such as my own perceived inferiority with my hyper competitiveness. And I’m not calling ENTPs inferior by any means but it’s clear that there’s a complete different set of priorities. Being in an ENTP space for so long was detrimental to my brain in a way. It’s because I think quite differently so my views seem unhealthy but it’s just because ENTPs and ENTJs have some similarities but overall expression is widely different.

It’s why when I share my epiphanies I get a lot of mixed criticism on the ENTP subreddit. It’s because I value functionality and results above all else which is very different to how some others think. Realizing who I am helps me because I realize my priorities on goals and lack of trust in others is not necessarily something to look down upon. I don’t necessarily have to be a slave to capitalism and also overall being a scheming person doesn’t necessarily make you a bad person. I do relate to the inner monologue of ENTJ characters but I manifest differently because I am uniquely myself. The insecurity of being a good person or not is something I’ve come to learn is a common ENTJ thing. Also my interpretation of Ni has been wrong all along and it’s wild how I didn’t realize it for so long.

The best way to describe what it’s like to use Ni is like my brain fucking itself. It’s like having that perfect idea that you formulated through gathering patterns. When you mention it they stare like you’re two headed (listen to ego by Tribe Called Quest, I think y’all ENTJs would like it too.) But anyway these aha moments I have are in fact not Ne but Ni, it’s when I share a vague remark with someone and they don’t get it until years later. It’s a very lonely experience as an Ni user too which is why it’s understandable a lot of us could be depressed due to it. All that aside it’s nice proving yourself right regardless of when it happens ;)

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2024/12/04
00:04 UTC

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Does anyone else struggle to prioritize happiness over progress?

I have an entire schedule and a to do list from the moment I wake up till I go to bed and eventhough I'm enjoying improving myself, I'm realizing that I don't spend time on having fun or going out. After I come back from work I workout, learn programming, learn a language and read business related books.

And again it makes me happy and excited that I have my own back and that I'm supporting myself and my long term goals, but then I go out with friends or play video games and I realize how much I love doing all that.

26 Comments
2024/12/03
21:53 UTC

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ENTJs! Are there fiction writers among you?

Has any of you ever written a fiction story? I'm curious about your writing process!

41 Comments
2024/12/03
19:11 UTC

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Do You Guys Journal? Tips and Tools for Starting One

I’ve been thinking about starting a journal and wanted to hear your thoughts on it. Do any of you keep a journal? If so, where do you store or write it—do you prefer physical notebooks, digital tools like Notion or Evernote, or maybe something unconventional?

Also, has journaling made any noticeable improvements in your life? Personally, I’m curious if it’s helped you organize your thoughts, strategize, or reflect more effectively (I’m hoping it’ll add some structure to my chaotic brain).

If you have any tips for getting started, I’d love to hear them! What kind of prompts, formats, or routines worked for you? I am thinking about writing down daily reflections, progress on goals, and even brainstorming sessions for personal and professional projects.

Looking forward to hearing your suggestions and experiences! 😊

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2024/12/03
12:50 UTC

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How do I know for sure

My issue is that for the longest time, I was typed as INFP. But after traumatic events in my life and after a period of grief and depression, as I’m coming out of it, I’m realising that me being an INFP was probably just trauma related and a fawn response. I took the test online and got ENTJ, read about it and it resonated well. Why I think I’m definitely not INFP-

  1. Although I have a lot of emotional depth, I take it as an intellectual practice to understand emotions. I’m surrounded by people who are extremely emotionally driven, so I HAD to understand how emotions work in order to survive
  2. When people come to me for help, I’m always giving them solution oriented advice, and often forget to be gentle with the bubble bursting.
  3. I feel best about myself when I get my work done EFFICIENTLY. Efficiency gives me joy.
  4. I’m only able to work when things are ordered properly. And for the longest time, I couldn’t exactly get the level of order i like because of XXFP parents.

So in conclusion. I’m extremely lost about my identity outside of my family system. I’d just like to know if there’s any way I can be sure that my current way of functioning is not just a reaction to how things went down in my life (My father died of a gall bladder removal surgery gone wrong- simply because they didn’t follow proper surgery protocols)

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2024/12/03
06:59 UTC

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My life experience as an Autistic ENTJ.

So, I got my personality test before I got diagnosed with autism. Obviously I relate to the entj traits, more so with the cognitive functions. I feel the whole contrast of Te and Fi is really strong within me. Before I knew I was autistic (which happened very recently, so I would love to hear from similar individuals of their own experience), I used to believe I had some other disorder which would explain my inability to regulate and actually feel my feelings (never diagnosed that, I just thought of it sometimes as a joke, maybe, because there had to some explaination for me being the worst at understanding what I'm feeling).

I'm surprisingly good at being social. Not by choice though because I would rather stay in and eat chips, but if I'm in a social situation, I'm slaying it. I am really good at people and communication, and I think I learned it overtime, because I personally have this pressure to perform and do well. I also did my bachelors in mass communication. I noticed I do better when talking to a group and leading it, than talking one-on-one and being a consistent part of the chatter. I have this desire to have an upper hand when talking in a group, otherwise I just become completely mute and retreat. I do have difficulty talking one-on-one especially when it concerns emotional matters. It has stopped me from a lot of romantic connections. I am THE WORST at expressing my feelings, because I don't get them myself.

I have masked a lot of my autism or let's say "protected" these traits about myself in social situations by practicing stoicism. That got me through so much I thought I would never get through. I have overall become quite silly and funny, but also distant. I do yap a lot, if you can't tell by now. I am a very focused person, that I forget to eat and even physically move at times. I spent like half an hour writing this, not because I don't know how to write but because I am too invested in the subject matter of this post right now.

Can't regulate my emotions but I'm hyperaware of the meaning of every single thought I have. And as usual, I'm very attached to my routines, can't take change well, and still miss my personal favorite collection of winx club stickers from kindergarten. I'm pretty efficient though. I do a lot of things, have a lot of hobbies, and people always ask me how I get all this time to do everything. Honestly, I enjoy whatever I do, I don't beat myself up about taking the time I need, and I'm pretty good at planning everything. And, I know I will be able to handle any issues that come on the way (stoicism helped me a lot with this).

This does mean that I am THE WORST at working with others especially in terms of career & stuff. I remember when I tried it in college, I was at the worst point in my life and even doubted if I was really an entj or not. Because entj are potrayed as these ruthless workers who stop at nothing to get what they want, and I couldn't even bear working together with people. But, I work as a freelancer now, and have a art business on the side, and I love it. I do stop at nothing to get what I want but I have to do it alone. I have tried to keep a lot in my life very simple, a very simple business to a very simple hairstyle. I get overwhelmed with the act of physically staying alive, not in any bad way. And I absolutely cannot meet with people everyday. Once or twice a month is good. I forget about people a lot too, not in a bad way. I just don't really remember them a lot.

I hope this post shed some light on an autistic entj. I hope it wasn't messy. Let me know if you relate to it, or your own experience with being autistic.

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2024/12/02
19:30 UTC

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What’s Your Go-To Note-Taking App?

Hey ENTJ crew! I’m curious to know what note-taking apps you’re using to stay organized and productive. Are you all about the aesthetics and customization of apps like Obsidian, or do you prefer straightforward tools like Notion, Evernote, or OneNote?

I’m looking for something that can handle structured thinking, project planning, and long-term goal tracking. Bonus points if it integrates well with other tools or has great UI/UX!

Would love to hear your recommendations and why you chose your current app.

52 Comments
2024/12/02
13:11 UTC

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Have you ever sat down and appreciate something?

I know that some people such as entj, are sometimes focusing on something or goal and could potentially miss out a chance to sit down relax and enjoy the view of something weather sea, sky, clouds etc...

So have you ever stopped doing what you're doing and went outside looking at nature or something and you appreciate it for some time?

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2024/12/02
10:36 UTC

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Do any ENTJ traits make you feel lonely and how have you overcome it (if you have)?

I'm happy about some of my traits but they've also caused me quite a bit of sadness and loneliness. I came from humble means, was the first of my family to go to college, and decided to leave a loyal friend group behind because as I grew, the old friends went the opposite direction in terms of addiction, jail, and just not growing as human beings. I love my family, but I'm the only functioning adult (they're stoners). I don't think people talk enough about the loneliness and isolation growth can cause.

I'm typically the planner and one to reach out. I feel like a lot of people ride off the benefits of my effort and high standards - from friends, and family, and even my partner (he tries though!). Not out of malice, but out of capacity. Most people, it seems, are at a state of rest from the demands of life ... which I understand. In my earlier years I just thought people were lazy until MBTI pushed that ENTJ are just uniquely motivated, which is great, but it starts to feel lonely when you notice most people you care about don't/can't match the effort that seems to be our baseline.

Feel free to ask for more clear examples. Has anybody experienced this and how did you overcome it / how are you trying?

tl;dr ENTJ traits of growth and high effort have left me feeling lonely. Have you experienced this and what have done to you overcome it?

40 Comments
2024/12/02
03:07 UTC

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I’m learning to finally relinquish myself from personal social expectations, but I got some Qs for my fellows ENTJs here

I am finally more myself by being aggressive, authentic in my answers, in my moods, in my manners and reactions.

The “problem”starts when people do make faces to react when I am too aggressive in my tone even if it’s just the way I normally talk (bold, impossible to ignore, authoritative and direct).

It starts when I really hate and get mad at people that are too slow, incapable of doing what their doing, uselessly loud or repetitive, when they are proud of how poorly they work whilst hiding from their resposabilities at work to take advantage of others / do not care about them.

The problem is huuuuge. Because my superiors do not like me and I need to force a smile and a bubbly, always-available facade to not get myself in trouble.

I know that to not be in their grace is not going to affect my salary or anything like that, but if they could choose to whom dove a favour against the rules, they would choose others.

I’ve always played the part of the cutie, dumb dumb girl that shows her insecurities and humble attitude to make her way into the world as the pure, funny and actually not so incompetent cookie.

It worked for everyone: others did not feel as I were the enemy or an “aggressive” bitch or probably they just didn’t mind it. In any case it was a shell that was protecting me from being targeted as the annoyed, tense and hostile person that you can’t talk to before she gets her coffee and her morning routine done. It worked perfectly. The only thing that was not okay with it was my inner child, inner peace, and authenticity.

Now I am going to be diagnosed with autism and I paid shit tons of money just to get validated by a doctor and let myself be finally unconsciously myself as I’ve never felt I was allowed to be. And it’s working!!!

But the problems are already arising. I got already a huge list of people that I dislike and that dislike me. I’m not afraid of not being seen as the perfect, quiet girl that felt guilty for everything she did or didn’t do for others. And this is where the real show begins.

I don’t wanna follow orders by people that are more insecure than I am. That are unnecessary rude. That are people pleasers or make illegal favours to get to be liked by my colleagues. I do not want to force a small talk 10 minutes after waking up w my flatmates. I don’t wanna smile if i don’t want to. I don’t want to be super happy about every single fact people say to me.

I am not saying I am finally happy becoming a Karen. I do hold myself to a very high integrity. All I’m talking about are daily circumstances where people are allowed to be themselves.

Before I couldn’t care less because I was such a nice person, now I am starting to notice all these little but unbearable details. And I can’t help myself.

I do not care now if people are not treating me so nicely, I am ready to face reality and to accept people can just do not like my defined personality. It’s more about the compromise I have to meet to survive in a society without having to come back home and feel like I had to fight against billions of haters. (Just so you know I’m exaggerating, I am still pretty popular. It’s just to prevent some scenarios as I’ll probably become more and more myself)

Did you find your balance? Are or did you struggle? What’s your job situation and how did you deal with your bosses? How do you deal with things you can’t deal with? Do you have the same problem with the tone of voice people keep misunderstanding?

ONLY REAL AND COMMITTED ANSWERS ARE ALLOWED.

No random insults, superficial shitty stereotypical phrases from anyone to anyone else here.

edit: thank you so so much about the long answers. thank you for your time!

45 Comments
2024/12/02
00:27 UTC

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Changed from INFJ to ENTJ!

For the longest time I was an INFJ, but a change in environment, medication and therapy have made me into an ENTJ. I would never have expected this in a million years. I’m so happy that I’m in a much better place than before!

56 Comments
2024/11/30
19:29 UTC

38

Are you guys paranoid and private?

Ok I'm extroverted, but I notice that I'm getting very paranoid of sharing my personal life. I also notice that I'm getting very angry over small things

I was a little paranoid before, but it started to increase substantially after I started reading the 48 laws of power

Doesn't help that the people around me are so fucking indirect

56 Comments
2024/11/30
17:52 UTC

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Am i an ENFJ or an ENTJ? Could someone help here?

First post here and i'm kind of intimidated to post this here, but i wanna ask this question.
For sure i know i am extraverted, intuitive and judging, but i can't figure out if it's f or t
I did my research on this subreddit but i find myself lost.

I was mistyped as ENFJ i assume multiple times, and i hate ENFJ-like people. Something about being manipulative off of people's emotions sets me off. Besides i don't really fit into the golden-retriever-uwu stereotype, i really don't. I also don't like being thought of as soft and cheerful and always kind or literally Makima from Chainsawman in terms of evil.

I noticed i'm a good listener to others and i can be very empathetic towards others, but if they do not anything with the advice i give them and the ways how can ONE problem be solved i just LOSE my patience around these people. I also get scared of emotional outbursts in people, even in me.
I was told to be very outgoing and a very funny person, but i do not think it's Fe. I do not read people's intentions correctly at all sometimes but i might guess what they're on about and what brought them to say or act like that.
In a drastic situation i wouldn't empathise or feel sympathy towards people that hurt the ones i care about the most or generally innocent people, i would attack those people without a second thought to protect the ones i care about.
I was also easily manipulated by SOME people.
However i don't think i can actually harm people with descisions i do and i mostly help out people with effective choices at the moment because i don't see anyone doing that, and because effective helping is better than whining about it...

I'm not sure if im ENFJ or ENTJ. Could someone help me?

18 Comments
2024/11/30
14:10 UTC

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Alternate identity discussion

Everyone is always talking about the cold, calculating, detached ENTJ, and how it's not really true.

It isn't true in my case, though I know it appears to be, or may even actually be to some extent, because of the Terminator type way I conduct myself in, "doing life."

However, (and this is why I had a very hard time deciding whether I was an ENFJ, or an ENTJ, even though now, I have recognized I'm an obvious, almost stereotypical ENTJ), when someone is truly close to me (hard to do, must get past bullshit detector, and be incredibly sweet and sincere), my behavior almost entirely flips (because, let's face it, I'm still the Terminator), and what I feel is my even truer self comes out (the self I feel is the easiest, most rewarding self to be.)

It took awhile to understand this is what I do, and why my character has always been so confusingly contradictory to me.

I started calling my inner, favorite self, "Fluffy Bunny." I'm bubbly, vivacious, exaggeratedly warm and loving. It makes everything make sense. It even explains why I'm so hard, sometimes, because if you fuck with Fluffy Bunny, you are seriously retarded.

Any of you other ENTJs feel you have an almost alternate identity?

44 Comments
2024/11/29
16:06 UTC

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I need help with understating Fi manifestation in decision-making process.

Hello everyone. I'm fairly new to MBTI and whole theory is really confusing to me. I've tried to deep dive into it, but it led to even more confusion.

Things I understood so far:

There are 16 MBTI types, MBTI is based on Jungian theory which consists of cognitive functions. Cognitive functions are either extroverted or introverted, all functions come in pairs. There are Sensing & Intuition, and Thinking & Feeling.

After that conception becomes confusing. Grips/loops, demons/saviours, aux/senex/inf/etc. I do understand the meaning, but it confuses the hell out of me due to its narrowness and relation to other functions.

I was able to identify that I'm a Ne dom with Si inf by reflecting on patterns of my behaviour. The only thing I'm struggling with in the moment is determining my aux and tert functions.

How am supposed to find out? By mainly focused on feeling functions exclusion method!

My behaviour in social situations made me think that I use Fe instead of Fi, but... Cognitive functions describe DECISION MAKING PROCESS, not behaviour.

Can you help me to understand how Fi manifests in decision making process?

Please, do not use examples from your personal life because I'll try to compare them to mine and it'll confuse me. My memory is bad and biased, I see everything through the prism of coping mechanisms: optimism and rationalisation.

Thank you in advance!

P.S. feel free to correct me on anything I got wrong.

12 Comments
2024/11/29
13:28 UTC

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Who else is dissatisfied with the state of the world and wish they could do something about it?

The world has been going through a slump for a while. Yeah, wars are down but overall dissatisfaction has increased world wide. I’m a very ambitious ENTJ but i do think that I’m not doing enough or something. I feel like I’m slacking. And even then, I feel like I have no power to change things. Anyone else dissatisfied with the state of things right now? What are some things you’re doing to help things get better for society? How do you keep calm and focused in a world that’s going crazy?

Thanks

32 Comments
2024/11/29
02:10 UTC

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A toast to all my fellow ENTJs

From your more reserved, autistic counterpart INTJ.

I hope you all make it and if you already made it then either learn how to rest or go for more and strive for greater heights.

As for me I'd rather stay in the shadows, this is where my beacon shines anyway where my goals are making just enough money to be "well above average" in a so called remote job, living minimalistically while focusing on writing, theory discussion and content creation.

13 Comments
2024/11/28
21:06 UTC

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ENTJs, what MBTI types have you mistyped as?

I am interested in this question because I believe ENTJs to be the overall rarest MBTI type, there could be many different introspections!

71 Comments
2024/11/28
21:04 UTC

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I've decided, I'm acting, and it's too late to change it.

If I set my mind on something, even if I realise mid-way that it's an awful idea, and I'm wrong for doing it, I still have to double down on it and bring it to an end. It just has to be done. And if there's any unwanted damage, then I'll attempt to fix it afterwards.

It can be anything ranging between simple decisions and cutting off friendships.

Is it just me, or are there other people, that tend to do that?

23 Comments
2024/11/28
07:49 UTC

11

Are you good at sales?

I’m working in Sales but feels like I’m following the system from books etc. but I don’t really enjoy it.

33 Comments
2024/11/28
06:14 UTC

14

Writing a strong ENTJ character with no special powers or magical abilities

I'm writing a ✨fantasy novel✨

It involves an ENTJ protagonist that does not have any cool powers or magical abilities 🫤📉. This sets him at great disadvantage in world where the majority of people do have a either a special power or some magical abilities. 🤓🪄

Physically he is average. Not super strong or super weak. Just average 😐

He is however, a very capable leader and seen as a pillar of strength among his allies. 💪😎

What makes an ENTJ seem powerful even without magical powers?

How can I make his enemies laugh 😂 at other characters with ✨strong powers/magical abilities✨ but totally freak out 😱☠️ at the sight of the "magicless and powerless" ENTJ when he shows up to the fight? 🗡️😏

33 Comments
2024/11/27
18:35 UTC

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What do you think about Trump MBTI type? He might be an ENTJ?

Hello, INFJ here, I'm here curious about your thoughts about Donald Trump. I suspect he is an ENTJ, not an ESTP because he doesn't use Ti at all. His speech is full of Te - Inductive reasoning aka crowd thinking, statistics, numbers,... I don't see his internal reasoning at all, not a shred of personal logic it's all about how others think. His expression doesn't help either, he is nothing like other ESTP like Rogan, The Rock,... he is not expressive at all. I don't think I have ever seen he shares a laugh genuinely.

ESTP has Ni inferior means they are extremely indecisive on their personal way, decision making. Trump is opposite of that, he really was firm on his investments, building this building that in NYC which means he has very strong Ni.

Last but not least, ESTP has an INFJ side of them which sooner or late they show when they age. He is in his 80s now, he is too different from an INFJ.

59 Comments
2024/11/27
16:04 UTC

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What trait does a person have that means they are not an ENTJ?

I mean something non-stereotypical! Something that sets the ENTJ apart from other types.

42 Comments
2024/11/27
13:59 UTC

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How would you know if a leader/manager is a ENTJ vs ESTJ?

Hi, so I'm just curious as to the difference between how ENTJ's think as compared to their sensor counterparts.

I know Te is planning, data, and empiricism. But I don't know if it's only planning or not. I don't think planning is the only thing that Te does.

So far my best definition now is Te thinks of the world as different items to be organized for efficiency and effectiveness, and that involves planning as well but it's not only planning.

I personally think ENTJ's see the world as a bunch of puzzle pieces that fit together, but what about ESTJ's. But Te alone maybe see's the world/areas as a bunch of pieces (I think), but I'm not sure if a xSTJ could figure out how they fit together without Ni. So IDK.

But I might be wrong this whole time. But I personally think that maybe the difference between INTJ's and ISTJ's probably relies on that fact that ENTJ's are more visionary, future oriented, and big picture whiles ISTJ's would are more likely to follow rules and rely on past experiences.

Now in a business examples, a ENTJ might have a vision of what the company would be like 20 years down the line and are more innovative and maybe more analytical. Both ESTJ and ENTJ's could improve processes, but aENTJ is more innovative and future oriented. A ESTJ is good for day to day management of the business, while the ENTJ would probably be responsible for the future trajectory. But I'm not sure if I'm right. So a xNTJ would be the leader of leaders, a xSTJ would probably be a mid level manager.

In foriegn policy, a ENTJ again is probably more future oriented,visionary, and analytical. They don't consider what the weorld is like right now but also consider what it would be like in the future. On the other hand the ESTJ may not be as visionary and focus on trying to stabilize things in the present.

But I might be wrong about Te in general, so I need help. I just need more of a understanding of the differences between S and N in xxTJ types, but I think I might be mostly right. But I'm not sure.

2 Comments
2024/11/26
15:07 UTC

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I need some insight Guys

i'm an ENTP and had this morning something I usually or rarely get so the first place that popped in my head waw here so here i am,

i have losted two years in 9th grade yet Made it to the highschool and next year I'll be a senior even tho I supposed to be in university freshman this year (I'm 18),

in my highschool we have teachers who observe your copybook and if you're writing lessons as a form of checking to give you better points and if I don't either they will call you the father (wich is a risk a won't take) or Report me to the administration to take some so called warning shit (wich is kinda serious in the environment that I'm in),

so I missed few lessons who I didn't write because I was stuck in balancing between work and school I need money to keep myself breathing generally,

the teacher said your big with your beard and moustache even I'm the eldest boy in the class, i felt like something inside got broke, i felt like she called me a loser, who could have been better and made it better then I felt like I am shit, and so on until i let out few tears, I don't know how I feel now after what I heard it's like someone's was shooting me in the face not heart or chest the face directly,

I even tho I lost two years of being irrational and stupid and started taking my responsibility and doing better by developing Mental health and physical health Greatly yet what she said I... really don't know how to put it in words it's a feel of grieve and not guilt but like total awful, still didn't get anything correctly :/

I let the grieving go away by letting it sink instead of suppressing or intellectualizing it cause usually that will just make things worse,

I got calmed down but the feeling is still getting my thinking till now, I don't know what to do with it,

thanks in advance.

4 Comments
2024/11/26
14:54 UTC

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