Im 100% ENTP and never met anyone else who comes close... which seems unprobable. But I suppose that's why I joined this sub.

Question to my ENTPs only (if you don't know for sure or are on the fence then you're probably not)

How many of you know other ENTPs IRL? What has that experience been like?

Please elaborate on your experiences in the comments and sorry (but not really) if there's one of these out there already.

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After a break up do you guys stalk your exes on social media or do you just move on and never look back?

If my physics teacher give me a strip of paper and tell me to write a formula on one side of it to take it in to a test, so, can I make that strip of paper into a möbius strip and write a formula on it, can I actually do it because it is technically one side

I’ve been together with my partner for almost half a year now. It’s both of our first relationships. I think that she is a remarkable person and we have many things and values in common.

Recently we’ve been having more disagreements and sometimes I feel like she’s not actively trying to understand my point of view when it comes to disagreements. Whenever I don’t see agree with her point of view she thinks I don’t understand her. Sometimes it feels like not agreeing with her is the same as not understanding her to her. I try really hard to not dismiss her and I accept that many disagreements happen because we are two different people and will never see everything the same.

It’s how we make an effort to work towards their version of the way they see things after acknowledging that that matters to me. But lately she said I always chalk up our difference in opinions to that and never really try to understand her. I feel like I am trying so hard to understand her.

I really want us to work out.

Is it normal to not feel loved or secure during some disagreements? I get really vulnerable with her way more than I do with anyone else but a lot of times I feel like we’re suddenly two different people having an argument and not lovers who promised to have each other’s back at all the times

I’m a small business owner in the professional services space and continually come up with ideas for products and services that I believe will help grow the business.  However, after I thunk it up, it’s sit in my head or on one of the many lists I keep and nothing happens.  Sometimes, I wish there were person/people that could just follow me around to do what I think with some healthy push back.  What is limiting though is the follow-through I need to do for further refine the services.  New website?  I wanted to get it finished at the end of January, but I haven’t completed/thought through the specific content I want.

When it comes to the next level of detail, I get stuck and then stop.

I have hired people to assist but I’m still unable to translate that into achieving what I set out to do. Once I’ve thought like a service or recommendation, I’m ready to move on.

Looking for guidance.

There aren’t many in my sub so nearly my type would do the thing

Is there noticeable traits that differentiates you from other ENTPs? Maybe you are more relaxed or use more Ti-Si/maybe less Fe. Id imagine you have more “realistic” or intellectualistic thoughts

I almost forgot to mention that i like healthy ENTPs. they are very yum-yum! oh and Im 5w6 as well

I've been quite addicted to games ever since before san andreas came out, I liked to play pokemon gold and mario tennis on game boy color and before that I used to play donkey kong and yoshi island on the N64, I have many fond memories playing split screen on ps2 or just passing the controller when we die, dragon ball z budokai 2, need for speed underground 2, matrix path of neo, goldeneye, even the buzz: music quiz was fun when people came over, on the pc I have fond memories of some really niche mmos and even flash games like chocolatier, I've played so many hours of so many games, would stay up all night on a friends nintendo ds playing tony hawk because that's when he'd let me play. Having played so many games I still get hyped when some new game comes out and now I actually end up buying them myself but I'm always disappointed with my purchase, I'm sad with the death of split screen but also that major titles even those who release yearly are unable to take appreciation of their earlier titles, instead of expanding on them they zone in, mindlessly copy and remove a lot of the character that was present then, I'll give an example.

In rome total war you already have the strong gameplay formula that they won't change but they have novel ideas that haven't been present in any of the other total war games like being part of an alliance where a senate gives you orders and you have to gain their support, including the support of the people, this tiny detail which wasn't that well implemented was incredibly immersive for me, because I wanted to be Julius Caesar, the stories of whom I've heard about IRL, I wanted to conquer the world, having to deal with objectives in a way that was also immersive and played on my imagination. I also discovered other details which they may have added in later games, like how the trade reflected the amount of horse carriages on the map. The tooltips were way more detailed as well with quotes and interesting facts through which you felt as though the developers were sharing a passion, celebrating the opportunity to provide history in a gaming media. the state of their games right now is pretty sad.

In need for speed underground, you were getting called on the phone to participate in races and you had to discover and find hidden locations, which immerses you into the theme of the game and at the same time encourages you to discover the map, the gps only worked when you had visited it before and garages are the only ones you can teleport to, the unlocks you do in single player would unlock those cars in multiplayer, which was common for most games at the time, it's just a reinforcement of motivation to become better at the game, and you would feel rewarded afterward. The music was incredible and again really put you in that theme of underground racing. I've played a few need for speed games afterward but then gave up because I quickly couldn't find anything like it, it's like they focused on the racing aspect and the graphics, it made no sense, their gameplay always was more arcade-y than what gran turismo was doing, they were selling a theme and an experience, not realism.

That's what happened with GTA as well, they were putting you into the story of a gang member, and there were plenty of wild features that made it one of the most immersive games back then, the question was "what couldn't you do?", they really stood behind giving you the full breath of that life, rockstar quickly became that company, wild and free just like those games, they skimmed a ton when they released gta4 and they let go of their street rep in favor of the more humorous stuff that they also put in GTAV.. It's still a good game but I couldn't care about any of those characters, it was a cool feature to switch between them but It distracts from your attachment when you don't make them optional. What made san andreas so good was the setting and cohesion of those gameplay features, as well as the company reputation and culture, that culture just bleeds into what you are making, like any art.

It doesn't have to be realism or correspond to history or a philosophy per se, taking the time to refine the elements of your game to make them fun is also a craft to be admired, when you play the early marios and when you compare them to some of the newer ones you just notice that they took more time to make everything snappy and responsive, there are many platformers today who still don't understand that, the gimmicks that the modern platformers use are so damn boring, what yoshi island did was art, making a paper mario is just lazy imo, and this is because yoshi island and donkey kong don't just use the style for looks, it was present in the sound, in the level design, in the game mechanics, and even as part of the product design in the box and manual.

I feel like games now sell themselves short, they don't pay attention to the player, the theme and its emotion and rely on what makes it addictive instead.

This post is messy but it talks about some of the thoughts I have around art, how details create investment and what has changed throughout my generation, so I believe it's worth sharing. Feel free to let me know which games you liked to play

And why is it done differently than other types? They you guys talk about yourselves is both funny and sad. My xNP friends, both past and current, have had this view of themselves like they expect to die alone or something. I'm aware it could just be a "them" issue, but a lot of times they were INTPs, a few ENTPs. At least two INFPs.

Just want to discuss if there's some truth to this or if it's just a coincidence that these type of people happen to fit xNP types.

What is everyone else’s experience being a 5w6. What helped you figure it out?

Im infatuated again. I know its nonesense, just a fantasy in my head, a picture thats not real and not even fair.

I know that Im probably just engaged with it because I dont have enough going on in my own life at the moment and use the limmerance to distract and entertain myself. I know all that and I know that I know.

This isnt the first rodeo either. Nothing will come of it. Still I cant let it go. Maybe its different this time? Maybe this time the mirror is there. Maybe the tea leafs are actual signs. Maybe I just need to remain patient and stick to the plan. Maybe I just need to continue waiting for the moment. But maybe not. And when everything finally comes crashing down, ill be able to let go forever.

I feel like only reality can cure me. Its such predictable nonsense. Such a deja vu and yet here I am again. Why cant I just like normal girls?? What do I even see in her? And what is actually there?

Its been a long, long while and I need to get out of my head. Have it let go of me. There is no rationality to this, there is no reason. Im just wasting time. Unable to move on, unable to allow myself to meet and consider other people. However as long as wont be given the chance to actually meet her, have the chance to see for myself, this arc does not find a permanent and natural conclusion and I will never be able to let it go out of my mind. This is just the kind of possibility that needs to be followed or needs to have its knot tied. It cant remain hanging lose. And yet I am unable to progress.

I cant text her as I already have. The ball is in her court and she needs to play as I cant play for her. Considering the given context everything makes sense. Her actions, as do mine. And therefore we are in a stalemate.

I need this knot tied. I need to figure out my stopping condition.

Reason I ask is I’m planning on going full time at my warehouse this summer. Great thing about it is I can have headphones in pretty much all day so I’ll be listening to a lot of shit all summer long lol.

Is it like freaking out about your own personal doom in relation to others? I go through periods where I have freak outs around not being good enough in some form or another and it takes a while to see the logic of the situation.

Dunno if thats the loop or not as its something that happens to me regularly. Doing it right now and I just cannot get my brain to use reasoning, or rather in the moment I cant tell that im not using reasoning.

Basically I question my entire life and future and feel like no one could ever like me for me. Confidence goes much lower than my norm. I can get out of this loop sometimes quickly, but sometimes it takes a while.

One of my favorite sf authors. Ted Chiang, Ken Liu, Arthur C. Clarke (of course), Stanislaw Lem, and Cixin Liu are up there too. Never could get into Asimov for some reason.

He is never transparent of his life to me and i often wonder why especially related to his love life. We have been codependent in the past and for the last 3 months, he had been always asking how i am when i got sick and acted like my doctor. He also frequently looked for me whenever i deactivate my fb and will send me messages or text to ask how i am.

Recently, i got mad at him because he got in an accident breaking his bone. I was shocked and in anxiety asking him where he was. He didn't tell me where he was but explained why he tried learning how to drive.

I got upset and blamed him because I said he should know he's not good at driving so why try it in the first place. He just nodded and said yes but I was seething. He can't even tell me where he is. I said i dont know what to say.

This reminded me of the time when around 2 years ago, his life was in endanger because of his partner who was abusive. My guy friend did not even tell me it was his girlfriend but told me it was his room mate. I only knew it was his partner because he told our mutual friend who is not even close to him.

I really am tired with all the secrecy. It doesn't help that whenever he takes my calls in the past, he always takes my calls outside of his house because he said someone might hear. He takes my calls in cafes or gym.

He also called me when his life was endanger in the past and put me in an anxious situation. Whenever they fight, i know what they're fighting about.

We did grew emotional dependence on each other, the least thing he could do is to be more transparent with me. Why does he hide things from me? Why does he always place me in an anxious situation where his life is threatened or he gets in accidents?

Repressed emotions As well as feeling stuck.

I’ve realized this is a huge problem—I’m basically never in the present moment no matter what I’m doing. And it’s not like I’m stuck in the past or fantasizing about the future. Most of the time I’m not even thinking about my own life (whenever it’s boring; when it’s interesting it’s usually because I’m making bad choices to keep it interesting but that’s besides the point.) I’m usually thinking about things that have literally nothing to do with me and no practical application in the real world to most people. (Love being an Ne-dom.)

ESPECIALLY because I can literally never sleep. I spend literal hours laying awake thinking about random (probably pointless) things. So I thought I’d share some because if I’m going to ruminate I want company:

1. The Divergent series was what got me into typology. The factions in a terrible dystopian universe. And I can’t help but see the parallels between the Divergent faction system and the Reddit subs for each type and how people who are super into typology will literally say they don’t like someone based on their type. And how it’s supposed to make us function better as a society knowing our strengths and weaknesses and what roles or careers would be good for us based on our personality types. MBTI is primarily used to determine workplace interpersonal dynamics and I can’t help but wonder if this is even actually good.

2. Are our actions or our intentions a more accurate assessment of our character? This is kind of along the lines of virtue ethics vs consequentialism. I always took the point of view that if someone at least is trying to do the right thing, they’ve done the right thing (because it’s all subjective) but then again, if you can excuse someone’s actions by their lack of a specific virtue, you can excuse their unwillingness to develop that specific virtue as an inability to develop another one. And it’s all just unwillingness leading to inability to be a good person. And you can keep backpedaling so far back that you can excuse literally terrible things. Kind of like the “hurt people hurt people” mentality except it all happens within the same person, just different facets.

3. How complicated we’ve made money. The economy gets more and more complicated as times goes on. We used to have the barter system. Now we have central banking and cryptocurrency and insurance. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF INSURANCE!!!! It’s literally just a scam that’s necessary in the modern world. Like why do we need a middle man to pay for our medical services? Because they’re expensive? Why are they expensive? Because they can be because insurance will cover it? What if we just put price ceilings on medical services/products and made them less expensive? There’s no reason insulin should have had a 600% markup in price over the last 20 years.

4. What if I’m actually a hyper-delusional asylum patient who’s strapped to a table somewhere completely unaware that my entire life is just a dream/simulation? What if the first time I took psychedelics the trip never stopped and none of this is real? What am I doing in the parallel “real” universe? If that was the case, would I even want to go be mentally present in the real world or would I choose to continue living in delusion? (Essentially the Matrix except instead of everyone being in a simulation, it’s just me, and I’d return to a world where in the town crazy woman.)

5. What do people actually think of me? Which of my friends secretly hate me and who all is in love with me? I hope it’s a lot of people tbh. Don’t see why it wouldn’t be.

6. What the fuck is Scientology?

I'm sometimes desperate about sharing my input with other people, not desperate but I'd like to have it be infrequent enough where it remains appreciated, either I'm met with the response where the other person quickly frames it as their idea, the idea is met with a lot of opinion or it gets ignored entirely. The desired outcome is one where I share an idea and the other person runs with it and brings in new information to explore it further and in doing so both of us making discoveries and broadening our understanding. This is sadly incredibly rare to happen.

Debates and counters are also constructive (when they are relevant!).

I'm not looking for advice but if you want to share your experiences and thoughts please do

Anyone else keep second guessing themselves About the purchase of a house? I make great money, money saved,etc. Yet I’m affraid to regret it and feel trapped. What if I want to move out? Change city or job?

What if someone is projecting on you. And it’s based on emotional and you feel as if you’re being pushed into a state of hostility. And you’re told that you need to respect- but it’s not even based on reasoning but emotional lash out

And you feel like your emotions are being bottled up. (Trapped)

And it’s like this person wants to control you.

After I drink a bit I start to lose my filter and lets just say I'm right and the cost was not worth it.

We were guessing my sisters baby's weight at birth, it was a few months out and one person guessed a weight that was almost exactly the same as its current weight. So I instantly said "Maybe if it becomes sick or something" and everyone immediately shamed me 💀

In my mind the words didn't sound that bad, but it turns out that no one wants to visualize the baby we're all excited for getting deathly ill. Yeah I guess that makes sense. That one was bad, I didn't say it in front of the mom at least. In my mind I was still thinking "I'm right though.."

Mine is either being alone or missing opportunities

I am literally surrounded by them. Not sure how I ended up with these people, but it's a constant clash.

Their Ni blindspot drives me insane. Constant fear of the future.

At least with ESTJs I can still have conversations, but they are so stuck-up in their past, tradition, rules and schedules, that any spontaneity is impossible.

Also low Fi, so when they explode it's all your fault. Then they hold grudges, deny it and blame it on you.

ESFJs, I have no idea how these people think. They are the shallowest types.

They also hold grudges, but they don't express them.

Is there some way to bridge the gap?

Also why do they have such a need for good reputation?

Hi everyone,

I'm a 22 yo ENTP woman studying business engineering in Belgium. So, here’s the deal: I’ve got this group project in marketing, and our first survey totally tanked. I mean, we really fcked it up. 😭 But no worries, I’ve whipped up a brand-spankin'-new one. The only prob is that I urgently need 40 responses by today.

This survey's all about what you think about repair services these days. It’s open to anyone 18+, takes just 5-10 minutes, and you can stay totally incognito.

This is me, totally out of my comfort zone, asking for help (and it’s my first post here)🥲. Thanks in advance to all my ENTP fellows !!

Link : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe11-97rrKG2jITCnLukLAWNHaHl_UdcIvXeV1E3tEpeGWheA/viewform?usp=sf_link

Granted I will acknowledge that Reddit is absolutely not the same as professional advice. However, I am a moron and will ask it all the same for discussion.

Do you all find that you cannot accept love/care? Is it out of shame or trust issues? Or do you find you don’t feel the need for it as much as others due to the Ti?

I find that I have a hard time distinguishing legitimate care and find it easier to assume that whoever I’m interacting with is faking it. I have the mentality of “why would this be genuine? They must be want something.” There is a certain hyper independent that seems to support this. I was curious if this tracked with other ENTPs?