I know that a lot of this sub tends to put emphasis on the happenstance of the USA and Europe, but like 6 billion people live outside the so called "First World", with the stubborness of Joe "The Mummy" Biden to accept other candidate, there's a lot of possibilities for Felon Trump to become president, that coupled with the unfortunate ruling by the stooges of SCROTUS, ahem, SCOTUS, we are now facing a God-Emperor kind of situation more akin to a dictatorship of a banana republic, while many Americans would think this is unusual a lot of people from the Global South are very familiar with the consequences of the USA's constant coups, sanctions, black ops, and support for small dick dictators like Al-Sisi on Egypt.

The issue here is that while neoliberal ghouls were as bloodthirsty towards brown and black people as the redneck Confederate, at least were predictable in a sense due to their love for the status quo, which mean that while they are always aligned with the fascists, their obsession for "decorum" makes the changes less abrupt, and also, less dangerous for the people in the Periphery, not because they are more human, but because they realise they cannot do actions too fast or they risk to fuck up the globalised economy that their billionaire donors need to still extract value from the poors.

But now that we are facing "faster than expected" (hehe) climate change and resource crisis, the neoliberal lie cannot sustain itself for longer, and we always know that a capitalist system in decay will always use fascism to keep their elites' power. Which means that the violence the Clintons and Obamas caused in the Global South to extract value from us, is now coming back in the form of Trumps and Project 2025 towards the cushioned Imperial Core to try and take the last drops of blood of this rock we call humanity before the real Collapse begins. While I despise Biden as much as Trump, and think them as basically the same souless mockeries of what a human is, I still think that a slow collapse of society with Evil Old Guy with dementia #1 would be better than a possible WW3 and Holocaust 2 with Evil Old Guy with dementia #2.

So what do you think would happen to the world's economy and interconected flux of information and goods once Trump becomes full King Washignton and start doing the heinous Nazi stuff that would be too long for this post to cover? Would for instance the Internet finally fragment as neo-fascists destroy the servers of so called "liberul media" in order to sensor people (which also would mean not only this subreddit could dissapear but the entire site), also because they seek to sensor information that they cannot directly destroy like public libraries and non-religious public services? Would Trump's tariffs to China become an outright ban creating a massive economic upheaval, since a lot of stuff is still being manufactured there? Or would USA isolationism means that places like Ukraine would fall and China would attack Taiwan, potentially starving the whole world of chips? Would the internal oppression cause an uprising into the USA, making his once unified mighty army a bunch of smaller chiefdoms fighting each other, if that's the case, would this allow more countries to slip by the control of the Western institutions? Would this cause the fascists on Southamerica to become emboldened and start trying to take power? What would be the world when the USA finally snaps off and suddenly we now have China as the hegemon?

Too many things, too many unpredictable outcomes...

The US is facing a turn to fascism and political collapse. I am trying to process this fast approaching train wreck but at the same time I am aware that there are different levels of illiberal right wing governments. Some are terror states like Germany in 1933 when the Nazi Party took full control in two weeks in 1933 following the passage of the Enabling Act. Some are more like present-day Hungary that has a (mostly) one-party system with the Fidecz Party led by Viktor Orban. If one knew that the US would go full Germany 1933, then it's time to head for the exits. But if it's Fidecz then it might be more of an annoyance than a threat to many (not all). Wikipedia describes Fidecz government as a kleptocracy. Orban is widely admired by the MAGA movement and Trump. Orban does advocate for Christian values. He doesn't like immigration and is a racist. He is sympathetic towards Putin. Fidecz has curtailed press freedom, weakened judicial independence, undermined multi-party democracy. Fidecz has been in power since 2010 so their policies are successful at keeping them in power. At the same time, Hungary is a member of the EU and is not conducting genocide or a neo holocaust. I wanted to post this question in the hopes of getting some informed comments from Redditors in the EU and especially Hungary. If the US would become the next Fidecz, would you be trying to get out now? Is it possible to adapt and survive? Or is the US headed for extreme fascism worse than Hungary and that a "soft landing" like an American Fidecz is just hopium? Submission Statement: With the continuing political meltdown following the Presidential Debate, the US political situation and the election seems more fragile and tenuous than ever. I am interested in a comparison with past or present-day governments that exemplify a complete collapse and fascist outcome or possibly a less horrendous evolution to a right-wing government but one that is less extreme like Hungary?

A couple years ago, I saw a pretty well sourced article claiming that we essentially had 7 years left before everything everywhere started collapsing across the spectrum. I have not been able to find this article/source since. Does anyone know what I'm referring to?

It was a few years ago (lol) and I'm wondering if this sounds familiar to y'all.

EDIT: Update, I appreciate all the responses. I'm not sure I can confirm any of them are what I'm talking about. If I see the article posted I'll let you know otherwise feel free to use this topic to share things that it might be. Sorry, my memory might be bad, but I swore it was literally saying '7 years'

I've noticed that a lot of people in my close circles shutting down the discussion of climate change immediately as of late. Friends saying things such as "Yeah, we are fucked," "I find it too depressing," "Can we talk about something else? and "Shut up please, we know, we just don't want to talk about it."

I get the impression that nobody in my close friendship circle denies what is coming, they just seem unwilling or unable to confront it... And if I am being honest I cannot really blame them, doubly so because we are all incapable of doing anything about it meaningfully and the implications are far too horrendous to contemplate.

Just curious if anyone else has come across anything similar?

not a big frequenter here, but have seen it is sometimes difficult to define collapse...or at the very least, everyone has a different definition

trying to learn more about it and what kind of things to expect and look into...so for someone new like me, where do you see the state of things in:

• six months?
• 1 year?
• 5 years?
• 10 years?

thanks

In these times of an increasing number of tyrants being voted in positions of power, and crassly brainwashing crowds of people into an absurd toxic alternate version of "truth" (we've already left factual reality far behind at this point), I think we all need a reminder of

How a stream of lies affect the brain - a 2017 article so good, I've printed it out back then

and of What tyrants know about your brain, and how they use it on you, a 2023 article

Collapse related because we need to be aware and educate others to NOT vote in one of the delusional toxic people who will slam us even faster into the wall. And I think this applies worldwide.

This megathread should be used for updates, concerns, advice, etc for the ongoing heatwaves. With some places like Houston forecasted for 80Fs with 90% humidity, no power for 2M houses, and the hurricane aftermath. Stay safe and if you're comfortable with it, share your situation in this thread so the community can try to check in with you that you're managing OK!

To start us off, some advice from various mods:

• Check out r/heat_prep for advice on managing the heat
• Fill up emergency water containers, isolate a room you can keep cool, don't go out during the day.
• Keep drinking water, an ice chest, and a double-walled drinking container in your vehicle all summer long. Put the water in the ice chest and some ice. Put some ice in the double-walled container. You will have the means of producing life-saving cold drinks that will last for hours
• Know where your Cooling Centers are! Most cities and counties have locations that offer free, cooled spaces to anyone in need. Some might even have back up power.
• If it's safe for you to do so, check on your neighbors. Social isolation is a strong determining factor in who dies during heat waves.
• <joke> "take all your clothes off" (this mod just might be a nudist actually)

Prior sticky on departure of Kaluna, and he thanks everyone for their well wishes. The mod team certainly misses him already. :(

Heads up we have an AMA on July 20th with Dave Gardner, we'll sticky an announcement soon

I feel that the big question regarding collapse is how do you make sure (or at least make an effort) to survive the threat of OTHER PEOPLE.

I think that it's probable that this collapse will not consist of mass dying event, but rather that the main danger will be the struggles among the people in a broken system.

I guess we need to start mapping what kind of threats other people will pose. I have no idea where to even begin - maybe farms or communities will actually be a desired target? What kind of entities or groups can form in a state of chaos?... Does owning a gun even worth anything against paramilitary groups? Does it all depend on a remote enough location?... What will happen to the masses in the cities?

Very weird thoughts, I know.

But also - it can be fun (and important) to think about.

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As the visible signs of collapse have become undeniable to more and more people, it always shocks me when I see corporate yes men and women really giving their all to a company and following the 1960s script of climbing a given ladder.

Why are people still doing this? Do they not know what's coming?

Is there a good reason to try to win at corporate America anymore when everything is collapsing?

File under what's the point/jobs