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A forum for discussion and current events concerning peak oil, limits to growth, oil sector news and the direction of humanity post-fossil fuel. (see references below)

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What will happen first

Just finished the book Societies beyond oil (2011) from John Urry. It’s a bit dated but I still found some interesting info. Anyway, according to John the spike in oil prices played a big part in the financial crisis in 2008. He writes:

“But this extravaganza came to a shuddering halt when oil prices increased in the early years of this century. Suburban houses could not be sold, especially where they were in far-flung oil-dependent locations. Financial products and institutions were found to be worthless. easy money, easy credit and easy oil had gone together. And when oil prices hit the roof in these US suburbs, then easy money and credit came to an abrupt halt and the presumed upward shift in property prices was shown to be a false dream. the financial house of cards had been built upon cheap oil. when the oil got prohibitively expensive the house of cards collapsed to the ground. timothy Mitchell observes how the ‘shortage of oil from 2005 to 2008 ... caused a six-fold increase in its price. ... the surge in oil prices triggered the global financial crisis of 2008–9.’ “

Most of you guys already know this, but I was wondering if we’re not in a similar precarious situation these days? Stocks are at an all time high, governments are increasing their debt to keep the economy running. The US economy needs to grow in order to pay back the interest rate on its debt. If oil prices will surge again in the near future, you can throw all the money you want at the economy, it’s just not going to work. So what are some signs you already see and how is this situation the same or different from 2008?

8 Comments
2025/01/12
11:58 UTC

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What happened to this community?

I remember hearing about peak oil in the early 90s, and realized then what an apocalypse that would cause. I remember the intense derision people talking about it received, and eventually it felt like even some of the major prophets of peak oil were downplaying it.

AFAIK, the predictions have been rock solid. Hubbert nailed the US 100 EROI peak and now the US is at peak for the 15 EROI oil. Am I the only one that remembers the crises in the early and then late 70s? After peak, we increasingly had to get oil from foreign countries, who weren't always on our side. They could stagnate our economy at will.

So now we're at a new peak, we want continued growth, and just elected a president that wants us more dependent on oil. I don't hear anyone talking about peak or how similar this is to the 70s. IYKYK

27 Comments
2025/01/12
02:43 UTC

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The story of the 21st century will be the End of Abundance

76 Comments
2025/01/11
12:25 UTC

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When your oil well starts acting like your phone battery—I swear, it was full an hour ago.

Remember when U.S. shale was the energy equivalent of a magic beanstalk? Now it's more like an old flip phone—drops bars when you need it most. "Peak oil? More like peak disappointment Sorry, shale, but we all saw this coming, and it’s like watching your battery hit 10% on a road trip. Charge up, or we're walking

2 Comments
2025/01/09
22:07 UTC

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When your friend buys an SUV because gas is cheap right now”

Oh sure, Chad, let me just casually explain finite resources over your V8 engine roar while you sip a $7 latte. Meanwhile, I’m out here calculating my daily caloric intake based on post-peak scenarios. Enjoy that MPG… for now. 🚗💨 Peak oilers, assemble

2 Comments
2025/01/09
03:20 UTC

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The American Shale Patch Is All About Depletion Now

  • Goehring & Rozencwajg: U.S. shale production peaked in late 2023 and is now declining.

  • Geological depletion rather than market dynamics poses the biggest challenge.

With just a month left before U.S. President-elect Donald Trump begins his second term at the Oval Office, oil prices have been struggling to find direction, intensifying the notion that oil markets seem content to wait for him to take office.

Trump has repeatedly vowed that he’ll push shale producers to ramp up output, even if it means operators “drill themselves out of business.

But it’s not clear how he intends to accomplish this feat since U.S. oil is produced by independent companies and not a national oil company (NOC).

Last month, Exxon Mobil’s (NYSE:XOM) Upstream President Liam Mallon dismissed the notion that U.S. producers will dramatically increase output under a second Trump term. However, Trump’s drilling ambitions might be thwarted by an even bigger challenge: U.S. oilfields could be nearing their final act.

According to Goehring & Rozencwajg LLC, a fundamental research firm specializing in contrarian natural resource investments, U.S. shale output is in the early innings of a protracted decline, with depletion, not market dynamics or regulatory overreach, the chief culprit. The analysts had previously predicted that the explosive production growth triggered by the U.S. shale revolution would flatline in late 2024 or early 2025. However, the reality could be worse: According to data by the EIA, shale crude oil production peaked in November 2023, and has declined about 2% since then while shale dry gas production peaked that same month and has since slipped by 1% or 1 billion cubic feet per day. And, it’s about to get worse, with Goehring & Rozencwajg’s model predicting an even steeper decline going forward.

The contrarian investors have compared the unfolding situation to the oil crisis of the 1970s. They note that President Nixon responded to the first OPEC oil crisis in 1973 by launching Project Independence, which aimed to reverse the decline in U.S. output through deregulation and expedited permitting. Oil prices soared from $3.18 per barrel in 1973 to $34 per barrel by 1981, inducing an explosion in drilling activity. Consequently, the U.S. oil rig count jumped from 993 in 1973 to a staggering 4,500 by late 1981. Unfortunately, the surge in drilling was unable to counter the natural law of depletion: By the end of 1981, U.S. crude production had fallen to 8.5 million barrels per day, good for a 15% decline from the time Nixon launched his ambitious program. The analysts note that U.S. crude output hit a nadir of 5 million barrels per day in 2010, even as prices hovered around $100 per barrel. Goehring & Rozencwajg has labeled this phenomenon ‘The Depletion Paradox’, and have warned that higher prices alone will not be sufficient to counteract geological realities. The analysts have pointed to the famous aphorism by the legendary M. King Hubbert, a geologist for Shell Plc. (NYSE:SHEL): every hydrocarbon basin is a finite resource. In effect, the production of any oil and gas field begins at zero, rises as extraction ramps up, and ultimately reaches an upper limit that represents the total recoverable resource in the basin.

To exacerbate matters, U.S. producers won’t have the incentive of high prices under a second Trump administration: A new survey from law firm Haynes Boone LLC has revealed that banks are gearing up for oil prices to fall below $60 a barrel by the middle of Trump’s new term.

6 Comments
2024/12/28
14:03 UTC

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Oil Production Levels Update ( NON-opec countries) - Monthly data

1 Comment
2024/11/10
20:38 UTC

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2025: A Civilizational Tipping Point

https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/2025-a-civilizational-tipping-point

Is his analysis valid? Fracking profitability starts declining as soon as 2025?

31 Comments
2024/11/10
16:37 UTC

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Peak Oil and the Western political landscape going forward.

Environmental realists know there is no big solution to climate change and resource depletion. As time goes on we all get poorer and humans running on limited information will get angry and demand change. So I predict more one-term presidents of both parties in the United States and more large party shifts in parliamentary systems. Every politician will naively promise health and wealth for just a vote and fail to deliver whether the platform is far left or far right. Expect huge occillations. New communist planned economies in some countries, far right violent xenophobia in others, ultra liberalized corporatocracy in some, global debt balloons, all while the poor kill eachother over scraps in wars, civil wars, and gang violence. Remember this is no one's fault. Earth can't support all of us. We may be slaves on the plantation, but don't forget to dance.

25 Comments
2024/11/06
02:41 UTC

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ELI5 How is fracking profitable? How is the US the biggest oil exporter now?

Is it me, or does this make no sense? I thought fracking only paid off at $120/ barrel. Are there subsidies nobody is talking about?

14 Comments
2024/11/05
17:05 UTC

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A peer-reviewed paper has been published showing that the finite resources required to substitute for hydrocarbons on a global level will fall dramatically short

22 Comments
2024/11/02
14:00 UTC

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The Permian's Watershed Moment

Interesting presentation of produced water issues in the Permian.

https://youtu.be/E0WImM0l3rA

0 Comments
2024/10/22
01:10 UTC

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American Oil Production will Peak Soon

11 Comments
2024/10/21
23:30 UTC

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first time peak oil demand is use to explain oil price downturn

WTI crude oil futures dropped over 4% to $65.5 per barrel on Tuesday, approaching their lowest level since November 2021, after OPEC cut its demand forecasts for the second time in two months. OPEC now expects global oil demand to grow by 2 million barrels per day (bpd) in 2024, which is 80,000 bpd lower than its previous estimate. For 2025, OPEC revised its demand growth forecast to 1.7 million bpd, down by 40,000 bpd from earlier projections. These cuts are driven by weaker oil consumption in China, especially as the rise in electric vehicle sales reduces traditional fuel demand. The prospect of OPEC+ increasing production in December adds further pressure, with analysts predicting a potential surplus in 2025. Despite the overall bearish tone, losses were somewhat limited by concerns over Tropical Storm Francine, which threatens oil and gas production as well as refinery operations along the Gulf Coast.

trading economics

10 Comments
2024/09/10
18:33 UTC

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My oily weekend

My Guilt Ridden trip to a new Target (USA).

The previous night was a blur. I woke up with my head resting on my Grindr date's hairy chest. I stroked his chest and abs and then told him it was fun and to hit me up whenever because I am DTF. I went to his bathroom with my night bag and took a shower. I like hot showers, there I was using up lots of energy just to wash myself after getting fucked all night. Loads of lubrication was used to sodomize me comfortably. I am a slut for the oil industry. I looked down at my clean thong as it lay between my feet. "At least my underwear consumes less, right?" I wasn't sure. I pulled it between my butt cheeks and donned by hot pink hijab and headed off to the grand opening of a new Target. My Qi power phone holder hugged my iPhone like my anus held my lover's dick last night. I asked Siri to play the Koyaanisqatsi soundtrack. That's my preferred climate doomer jam. I entered the newly paved parking lot, several American football fields in length and width. I parked in the far corner. I had my Nike Airs on and liked to get extra steps in wherever I could. I strutted across the parking lot thankful for my Toyota sedan which was so much unobtrusive than the Karen SUVs and trucks everywhere else. The glass doors pulled open for me, spreading faster than my asshole last night. The guard gave me a look of sexual shock. I'm a small waist, flat tummy, and a big butt that sexually awakens the teenage sons of all of the Karens with impure thoughts because I'm that bitch. I grab one of the very thick plastic hand baskets and begin shopping. First I looked for AAA batteries, I needed them for a graphing calculator I use at work to calculate pipe angles. I use a TI-83. The Emacs of graphing calculators. No one uses 90% of the features but people have used it for decades so they keep selling. At least I actually buy batteries instead of buying a new calculator with a sealed battery like other scientific calculators. I bought the Up and Up brand, Target's in-house brand. Next I went over to the office section. I bought an outrageously expensive notebook for 8 dollars, bypassing the more economical options just because I like the golden color on the side of the papers and the strap that holds the front cover. Not my most environmental or realistic purchase. Then I discovered something tragic, but normal for Target. I was looking for the regular sized paper clips, they only had small format paper clips. I can't use those. I'm glad I didn't buy them but I couldn't shake the thought that I demanded larger paper clips. I am a fussy cunt. Next the pencils, good god this was bad. I wanted to be economical and buy a package of #2 pencils, but there were no pencil sharpeners for sale. Pencils, pencil sharpeners, and block erasers are clearly more economical, but the economical choice is (us usual for Target) not even available. I needed a pencil to use so I bought an oil-guzzling package of mechanical pencils. I almost cried. After picking up some artery-clogging vegetable oil for my Mom I resisted shopping for middle school age lingerie (Target has a lot of this) and tried my best to divert my eyes from the humpable mannequins. Target is everything wrong with American capitalism. Packages enclosed in packages. Everything is a brand, even the food. Planks of plastic hang from the ceiling just to hold a red color to make you aroused for buying. All the images of humans dressed stylishly bombard the senses with the lie that consumption is happiness. I journeyed back to my car and almost crashed it as a line was forming for the new fast food chicken restaurant in the parking lot of the Target. I hope I never go there again.

1 Comment
2024/08/31
17:46 UTC

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