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A support group for persons raised by those with NPD or strong narcissistic traits who have or are raising children. If you plan to have children, DO NOT GIVE ADVICE or offer feedback here (because you probably think you know what parenting/raising kids is like, but you most likely do not AT ALL), but you may ask questions or ask for advice, particularly if you are trying to decide whether you should have children or if you are pregnant or adopting/fostering soon, etc.

A support group for persons raised by those with NPD or strong narcissistic traits who have or plan to have children.

Become a positive, affirming parent who recognizes, validates, and fulfills your children's needs -- and take care of yourself and your own needs.


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If you ARE NOT CURRENTLY RAISING CHILDREN do not offer advice or feedback to people who are raising children. You probably think you know what it's like to raise children, but it's extremely unlikely that you actually do, even if you are a teacher or in some profession working with kids (source: teachers and professionals that work with kids that have had children will tell you that they knew NOTHING about actual parenting until they raised kids of their own). However, YOU MAY, ask questions in your own posts or ask for advice, particularly if you are considering raising or fostering kids in the nearish future or are currently pregnant or in the process of adopting/fostering, etc.

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guys what should i do my uncle kicked my phone so hard that it flew to my face and hit my one eye almost making me go blind and the screen on my phone broke half of it is gone but i can still use it hardly i saved up for this phone for 3 years because were poor and im using for my chool and job

my school relays on devices my parents just watch and scolded me and they never even support me im a working student now i cant continue my school because i cant uae my phone properly

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2024/04/25
16:13 UTC

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2024/03/28
16:57 UTC

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A moment of unexpected validation from my kid

I was brushing my daughter’s hair the other night and snagged a tangle. I always apologize when it hurts brushing her hair and say, “I’m trying really hard to be gentle and not hurt you, but I know sometimes it does hurt and I’m sorry for that.” Usually this is met with squirming or complaining, but this time she said (like it’s the most obvious thing in the world), “I know. No parent ever wants to hurt their child.”

I nearly started sobbing right then and there. I’ve created a home for my children where they feel unquestioningly safe - so safe they can’t even conceive of any parent hurting their child on purpose. There was no point in my childhood where I ever believed that, but I am able to give that security to my children. You would think that would make me happy, and it does, but mostly it hurts so much. I just wanted to share with people who would understand why. I wish I could go back to myself as a little girl and give her the same.

12 Comments
2024/03/26
20:43 UTC

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Kids camps

Wondering where you look for good camps for kids (spring break/summer). I'm in Western Canada. Any ideas?

0 Comments
2024/02/05
06:58 UTC

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Recovery after choking on food

Hello everyone, my child, 1.5 YO, was choking on nut candy, he chewed it and morsels of nut were the cause. He recovered quickly, I lifted him and gave few taps on his back. How to know if he didnt inhale any nut morsel? It seems hes breathing not obstructed thanks god, but I have fear, should we go to hospital?

5 Comments
2024/02/03
10:18 UTC

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I regret ending NC with family when my child was born. Their authentic selves are re-emerging, and I don't know how to explain this to my child.

Apologies if I have formatted this post incorrectly. This is my first time seeking support from this Subreddit.

I had grown up in two narcissistic households, and finally made my escape when I entered college. I was NC for two decades, and was finally able to begin to heal some of the damage from my youth.

I had a child who is now elementary school age, and at their birth, it seemed that there was a genuine desire for reconciliation from the NC family. It seemed like things were different. I realize now how ill-advised this was, but I have not been able to figure out how to move past the desire to have a parent who loved and cared for me. I am a solo parent - they offered support, and I caved.

My child adores these family members. But the mask has slipped, and they are turning their N-behaviors towards him. He doesn't recognize it yet - he is good-natured and wouldn't understand why or how they are hurting me, or him. These family members swing between being fun and loving to making cutting remarks and falling into a violent rage. I have no intention of letting them hurt him like they hurt me. I think it is important that I begin to reduce the time he spends with them, but I have no idea how to do this without hurting and confusing him. He thinks these family members love him, but I am not comfortable with their version of "love."

Does anyone here have any experience with helping a young child navigate transitioning to NC?

28 Comments
2023/12/22
19:49 UTC

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Getting angry

Hello Reddit

I adopted an abused child and I’m helping him be happy again, but sometimes he does bad things like violating rules or breaking stuff, but I’m scared to become angry at him because it might make him have flashbacks to his old family, do you have any tips on what I should do if I’m angry at him?

14 Comments
2023/11/29
19:44 UTC

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It's my daughters 10th birthday and I can't feed her.

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2023/11/09
16:14 UTC

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Might be too damaged by parents to be a good parent

Exactly what is says. I do try to be a good parent and to be patient but I seem to not be able to control myself at times and it scares me. I’m always responsible for my behavior but the trouble is I have a medical condition that…makes it so that I experience dramatic changes with chemical exposures. Like dramatic. And unfortunate my kids have it too. Multiple chemical sensitivity. We also all have a mold illness so a lot of uncertainty and stress. We accidentally bought ikea shelving for kids room it says low VOC’s but. We’re all SO sensitive to VOC’s because of the previous mold exposure. VOC’s give me: heart palpitations, extreme brain fog/feeling of my brain being in a blender, extreme irritability, anxiety, depression, extreme fatigue. And it comes on suddenly. Mold does the same thing to our whole family. So basically we all become dysregulated and experience significant symptoms of neuro psychiatric illness with environmental exposures to chemicals and mold. Our kids (6 year old twins) have been wild since we got the shelving. Anytime they go into their room they emerge angry saying they hate us, one of them tries running away over a potion bottle she couldn’t find. It was so scary I had to run and find her. And I should know better I understand that they’re experiencing neuro inflammation he used I am too so I should have empathy and I do to a point. After a week of non stop meltdowns and tantrums I lost it with the kid I was talking about. Told her it was unpleasant to be around her and that I was exhausted. My mom used to do stuff like this to me. And I realize it’s genetic so it’s likely my parents have this genetic defect (I can’t detox biotoxins like mold my body doesn’t make antibodies my doctor tested me it caused crazy health problems for all of us) and it’s likely that they acted mean and crazy because of the same condition. It’s hard to imagine unless you experience it. My chronic fatigue has worsened and I just feel like I’m failing my kids and watching history repeat itself. I always apologize to my kids if I ever do or say something that was unkind or unfair which is more than my parents did but still it’s not ok. And I can’t control my environment or how I feel. Or how my kids feel and act. If we lived in a pristine environment we don’t have any major issues. Like when no one is exposed everyone acts fine sure kids can be wild challenging behavior is normal but they can’t be reasoned with all when they’re reacting. I find it so hard to properly parent when my higher brain is hijacked ask inflamed. This isn’t a normal thing many other people experience and I just feel isolated and like the worst person in the world. There is no cure for mcs and I worry about our kids future. The last thing they need is an impatient mom saying mean things to them when they’re struggling and don’t understand their condition. I meditate I do therapy our kids meditate in school they probably need therapy too. But they’re kids they aren’t the problem. I am. I wanted to break the cycle so bad and sometimes I think I can or will but this past week has been a total shitshow. I’m failing them and they deserve better. If my mom could see this (we don’t talk) she would absolutely gloat. I’m proud of everyone who did break the cycle. I wish it could have been me.

4 Comments
2023/08/17
22:16 UTC

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Spent time with an enmeshed family and was a good reminder why I am NC with mine

0 Comments
2023/07/17
06:21 UTC

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What are your go-to resources for educating others about NPD and narcissistic abuse?

UPDATE I decided to just ask my husband if he can support me and respect my wishes, even if he disagrees with me. He agreed. He's not going to be in contact with them anymore. I don't think I'm going to change his mind, so I'm going to stop trying. I've asked him to stop trying to change my mind, too. I'm hoping we can just move forward without my parents in my life.

I have been NC from my parents for about 6 months now, and it's honestly been great. I'm pretty sure I'm going to continue it, but my nDad reached out to my husband to ask if they could still see our son. I am obviously uncomfortable with that and angry that he reached out at all. (This man could not stop giving excuses for his abusive behavior during family therapy and didn't even bother to show up for the last session!) My husband feels that we can't sheild our son (3 yo) from everything that is bad and it would be better to expose him to my parents when we can be there to counter their influence. He thinks our son will reach out to them when he is an adult to try to form a relationship anyway. I am considering giving my husband two options: 1) he can have whatever relationship he wants with my parents as long as he leaves our child and me out of it 2) if he insists on maintaining our son's relationship with my parents, he needs to learn about NPD, the specific tactics my nDad usues to abuse me, the abuse cycle, etc.

What resources would you suggest to educate someone about emotional abuse and what to look for?

5 Comments
2023/07/11
17:15 UTC

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My mom came over unannounced 2 years ago and my 7 yo just told me that scared them

She shouldn't have even had our address but came over, knocked, sat in her car, went back to the door repeatedly to slip notes through the mail slot.

I wasn't home but my husband pulled my kid away from the door (they like to answer it) and went in the backyard with them. My husband was super shaken up.

She didn't leave for 20 minutes, not till I texted her to not come back.

My husband and I were too shaken to think about how we should have talked to my kid. They have never mentioned it until today. They had lots of questions and it clearly bothered them. They've been super anxious lately too.

F you mom.

3 Comments
2023/06/27
07:11 UTC

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Help planning my step-daughters birthday

I found out recently that my 7 y/o step daughter’s birthday was cancelled by her mom. I don’t know the details as to why, I think her reason had something to do w/ kids in her class traveling for vacation. Her birthday is June 20th, and I want to do something really special for her but not sure what to plan/what to do, since I don’t know any kids her age (or around her age) to invite to the party. She goes to school in a neighboring town where her father and I just relocated, and we don’t have many friends/much of a community here yet. I don’t know any of her classmates/their parents to reach out and invite her friends. She is an only child so she won’t have siblings to play with.

We were thinking maybe to just go to a local water park, planning to get some cake, decorations etc. but I wish there was more I could do. She makes friends easily and I think what would make her really happy is to have kids around to play with.

Any/all recs for how to make this day special for her are welcomed. I’m new to being a step mom and don’t have children of my own, so this is new territory. Maybe this isn’t the best place to post this (recommendations about better places to post also welcomed)

Thank you all 🙏🤍

4 Comments
2023/06/14
16:33 UTC

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Happy Mother’s Day text from my dad

“Hope you had a wonderful Mother's Day. I just wanted to say this to you, look into your child's eyes and imagine a day when your child wants absolutely nothing to do with you and you don't know why. I don't even know my grandchild's name, that's really messed up. Just wanted you to think about that. I love you very much”

Goes without saying I’ve told him about a million fucking times why I am NC with him. I’ve spent years and thousands of dollars in therapy making sure he can’t get under my skin but this one is living rent free in my head for some reason. Really fighting the urge to text him back and tell him off.

29 Comments
2023/05/16
17:43 UTC

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Something just occurred to me about Bluey

I think I like the show so much because it fills a small piece of my heart that was left empty when I was a kid. I was watching with my kids this morning, and I had watched 2 episodes by myself before I realized they had left the room. I started crying during the episode where Chili is trying to make sure her dad gets rest after his heart surgery. They’re sitting on the dock at the end and he says he remembers taking her there as a kid. I don’t feel like I have any happy memories like that. Can anyone else relate?

17 Comments
2023/05/08
10:50 UTC

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I don’t know how to help my son through interpersonal problems…

My son is going through his first interpersonal struggles. He’s young (6), but there is some exclusion of my son because another kid is jealous of his relationship with another kid. I can see it’s happening and I want to rescue him from it but I also, want to help him through it independently. I have no idea how to start… do I let my son come to me? My husband thinks I should just leave it as he has to learn not everyone will be friends.

I have literally no one to ask about healthy parenting. I can ask people in my life but they are not who I model my parenting style after.

11 Comments
2023/04/14
02:52 UTC

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Struggling with my child in school

I’d say a lot of my abuse as a child surrounded schooling. Why didn’t I get a better mark? How did I make a careless mistake? How come lil Susie got a better mark than you? Asking me to answer questions that I didn’t have the answer to. If my response wasn’t satisfactory they would argue me on it until I said whatever it is they wanted me to say.

I apparently tested as gifted but wasn’t living up to my potential or lazy. They get into a fight with my school about my gifted status and expected me to have some sort of special extra schooling. Apparently the school didn’t budge and they pulled me from the school and put me one a 10 min car ride away. Apparently it was the best.. had a great gifted program ( which I wasn’t in) and the next year it was cancelled. Might be a coincidence?

Anyways, you can imagine what life was like. I’m struggling with my kid at this age where my abuse was so bad. It’s bringing up a lot. Does anyone know what I mean?

3 Comments
2023/04/08
00:37 UTC

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What is something you learned as a parent that your Nparent(s) never did with you (or they sabotaged you in some way)

I have a looooong way to go in terms of learning to be a good parent that will help my child turn into a well-rounded adult.

These are some healthy parenting things I've learned:

-It's okay for your child to make mistakes. Don't punish them for messing up. In fact, make it a learning moment to show that everyone messes up sometimes.

-Apologize to your child. If you've done something wrong, own up to it.

-NEVER hit your child.

-Do not slam doors or break things. Especially don't break the child's things.

-Yelling is unnecessary. Communication is what is important. Even young children can benefit from attempts at communication.

-Don't take down the child's bedroom door. Make sure your child knows you value and respect their privacy.

-Don't don't don't read through their diaries.

-Treat all of their items with respect.

-Don't do the "silent treatment."

-Let your child express their feelings. Especially anger. It's okay for your child to be angry at you. Let them tell you all about it. Stay calm while they do. Validate their feelings. Then after things have calmed down, try to figure out a solution. Sometimes a simple apology on your end can go a long way.

-Treat ALL of their feelings as valid. Do not shut them up. I have found, setting aside time to talk about feelings (I have a young daughter) can be healing and beneficial.

-Make sure they know you are proud of them.

-Don't make harsh judgements like jumping straight to "they are being manipulative."

-THEY DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING. You putting a roof over their head, a bed to sleep on, clothes, and food are the bare minimum of being a parent. YOU chose to bring them into this world. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO OWES THEM.

-When they tell you something, believe them. Trust goes a long way.

Those are what I could think of for now.

Please add more as I like to learn anything possible on how to be a better parent.

50 Comments
2023/04/07
21:41 UTC

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Good book recommendation on how to not mess up your kid? (Because of our history of trauma)

I'm sorry for yet another post within minutes!

I have just been thinking about things a lot since what I wrote in my last post, and how I am for the first time realizing I don't know all the healthy ways to parent.

I have been in therapy for many years so things have gotten a lot better, but there are many things I just don't know.

My deep seated fear is my daughter will grow up and NC me. I know it's irrational, but at the very least I want to make sure her childhood memories are mostly filled with good things and feelings of safety and love from me.

I'm just so terrified of passing my trauma/mental problems onto her.

Please any book recommendations on how to parent when the parent went through childhood abuse. Anything that can help me realize all the healthy ways of parenting.

I would be beyond grateful for you to post anything similar to that.

32 Comments
2023/03/21
16:51 UTC

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Due to my childhood trauma, I don't know how to help my daughter grow her self-esteem. Advice and insights please.

Due to nparents, especially nmom, I learned that it ONLY mattered what they think, and that what I thought about myself didn't matter.

Eventually, I completely lost the ability to be able to validate my own thoughts and feelings, and it turned into my self-esteem relying 100% on what my nparents decided to call me that day. (Most days terrible, nasty, downright evil things about me. I internalized all of it.)

Thanks to many years of therapy, I can validate my own feelings now.

But somehow, I can't figure out how to teach that to my little girl.

She has begun focusing on what other people think of her. What others comment about her (especially peers), that's how she sees herself.

She is starting child therapy soon. So I do have hope that will help.

But is there anything I can do in the meantime? It breaks my heart to see her come home from school and saying things like "so-and-so called me stupid, ugly,a baby"... (yes I'm dealing with the principle about this bullying.)

I wish I knew how to help her but all I know how to do is comfort her. Which I know she needs in the moment, but ultimately doesn't teach her anything.

9 Comments
2023/03/21
15:59 UTC

115

I didn't hurt my kids

I'm still in tears over what a hard night this has been but I did not hurt my children. I solo parented a 1 yr old with a fever and an almost-3 who is potty training, pushing boundaries, and didn't nap - and I did not hurt them. I was spit at, kicked, hit, pushed over (squatting - my mistake)" accidentally headbutted hard enough to cause nausea - but I didn't hit back. I yelled and burst into tears, I set each kid in their chair, I held kicking feet still - and I was careful to mind my strength. When I apologised for shouting and toddler didn't respond I didn't force it to make myself feel better. When I had enough I walked away (leaving toddler in safe space for 2 mins) to take a breath and called my husband.

I'm not proud of every moment this evening. I'm not winning any mom awards today. My house is a disaster (right down to the puddle of pee on my bathroom floor). But I did not lay a hand on my children out of anger and I still feel awful because I could have. But I didn't and I'm trying really hard to focus on that part.

I just really needed to say all that to someone who might understand. Thanks for reading!

18 Comments
2023/02/25
03:30 UTC

36

How to explain why family don’t visit.

I’m really struggling with explaining to my kids why their aunt doesn’t visit (or have them/us over) despite living very close. We have invited her over many times, asked if we can visit etc but she is always ‘busy’ and doesn’t make any time for us. The situation is further complicated by her telling my kids they can visit anytime but when we try to organise it she just avoids it. My kids don’t understand why they can’t see her more or why she doesn’t want to spend time with them. How do I explain her choices without my kids feeling like it’s their fault?

10 Comments
2022/12/18
07:08 UTC

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Navigating the relationship with other family members when NC

I've been going through a weird situation for a couple of weeks, but realised as most things Nparents, this might resonate with others as they all seem to go by the same textbook. It's a long one with a TLDR at the end.

I live abroad and haven't seen my family since 2019, I have been NC with my Nmom since early 2021 (shortly after my son was born). For a long, long time I thought I had lost contact with my family as a result. This has slowly turned out not to be the case.

I have kept contact with an uncle and an aunt (flying monkey in the past but has respected me more since NC, mother of my goddaughter), a cousin and my goddaughter. I want to be in her life as much as possible, the tricky part is that she considers my mom as her grandma. They're very close, she's unavoidably under her influence. She's 13, has anxiety and depression, has dealt with disordered eating like myself, so I am finding it very difficult to explain to her why I am NC and how to keep boundaries in a way that protects her mental health and mine.

She came to visit me for the whole month of december, it's a big deal, her first trip alone and we haven't seen each other in ages. Turns out she didn't know I was NC even though my aunt said there are no secrets between them and they talk about everything, which I took as code for she knows it all. So she's been here and has shared photos of me, my son, and has been somewhat of a double agent without fully realising. I tried to set a boundary about not sharing pictures or info about my son and my private life. She did cross it once, sending a picture of my son with a gift my mother sent (!!!) without telling me neither of those things, I just saw because she left WhatsApp open on my computer.

My mother language as a response grossed me out, it is almost like grooming, she said 'I know you'd never do anything bad to me, I love you'. Yeah... Gross.

So I asked her if my request for not sending pictures of my son made sense to her and she told me honestly that it didn't, she thought the whole situation was rather strange. So I told her more details, before I had only made the request but not given much info on why I am estranged from that evil person because I know she loves her and it'd be too confusing. After sharing a bit, she did say now things make a lot more sense, that she had heard such a different version and she always thought I wouldn't do the things that were told. I was sad and relived.

I was wondering if this great sub of hurt souls had some insights or tips on how to navigate this. I don't want to disclose too much, I don't want her to feel like she need to pick sides, but I want to make sure she understands why we're NC and why these boundaries matter to me. I don't have many chances of day to day interactions with family members living so far away, so this is very new and daunting.

TLDR: Teenager goddaughter visiting me abroad, she didn't even know i've been NC with my mom and considers her to be her grandma. Struggling to know how to navigate this, make my boundaries clear, and find pathways for my relationship with her without disclosing too much information or asking her to pick sides. How to handle it? What to expect of a narc in this situation?

2 Comments
2022/12/16
10:52 UTC

38

Socializing kids

I have ptsd from childhood & adhd. Over the last few years I’ve been working REALLY hard at being more social, I really like being home. My children are young. (Under 10) and I constantly have them in events, around people, parks etc. They are extroverted and they thrive in social environments. But because they are so young the friends they make, very easily I might add, have to go through me for play dates etc. I’m just so awkward & im a single parent, so I don’t have a spouse to be the social person. I try so hard but I know it’s me. Does it get better when they are older? I constantly have anxiety about them being as socially stunted as me. But I was also kept isolated as a child with being grounded for every minuscule thing under the sun.

TLDR: I guess I just want to know if having a socially awkward parent is a social setback if they keep you in activity and let you go be with friends still.

5 Comments
2022/12/08
11:12 UTC

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How to not pass trauma around holidays to my kid?

8 Comments
2022/11/21
18:10 UTC

58

Parenting as a victim of a narc

My son (6) got into a situation at school where he got in trouble for hitting a kid for saying something mean.

I am struggling with how to parent this. He’s being extremely tight lipped about this , I can’t figure out exactly what happened; and this would not be acceptable in my childhood. I’d be hammered with questions until nDad was satisfied, even if the true story was unsatisfactory.

My ‘gut reaction’ is to hammer my son with questions until he tells me what happened and my husband says I can’t do this because I have to accept he’s six and may not be able to explain fully.

I am so confused because I don’t know where the line is. Do I push for more info or let it go?

Parenting when you had a terrible example is so hard. I struggle with the proper reaction. Heck, nDad was always criticizing my reactions. ‘you don’t seem sad enough, even though grandma is in the hospital’

How much is this my abuse? Should I let my son tell me when he’s ready?

Side note: I did tell my nDad about this and he seemed to get giddy at the prospect of my son being punished. Which is sick in its own right.

14 Comments
2022/10/07
15:03 UTC

25

Is this the correct thread?

I'm not sure this is the right place, but here it goes. Im an alientated parent of 2 now adult children, (18 and 21). I left my ex-wife 15 years ago due to what I now believe was narcissistic abuse; I could go on with that for some time, but its not the reason I'm reaching out. My daughter, the older one, I believe has gone NC with me.

A little backstory: In the last year, my daughter has shown signs that she doesnt see her mother in the same light as she has. She's admitted (to me) to perpetuating her mothers lies so her mother can look better. She's described feeling crazy from the constant gaslighting she's endured growing up, and how its her job to cook, clean, and give the house money to survive. In short, my daughter shows many of the signs of long term Nperental abuse. Her telling me this is all new to me because I've never been the confidant, only the one that took abuse from both her mother and what I've always thought was her mothers echo; my daughter. Lately, I've been feeling like my daughter was starting to come around.

A few months back, she stopped by and told me she was moving to LA to live in her car; although thinking this was a bad idea, I shared my support for her "making a bold move". Her reasoning was, that she had to get away from her mother and the crowd she was hanging with. She planned to stay in contact with me, her mother, and her best (female) friend. She said; "Thiers nothing here for me anymore". (seattle).

Two weeks in, and her car blew up. With no other resources she reached out to me for help (didnt ask for anything directly). I really thought "this a is a good time/reason to come back to seattle to re-group". I did ask her if that was something she thought about, then backed off; I could hear she was getting upset. Long story short, I was scared she would end up sleeping in a doorway so I offered to buy her a replacement. $8500 later, after flying to LA and taking 2 days off work. She's back on the road with a reasonable level of safety. No income, but reasonable safety.

Fast fwd a week and she calls for gas money. First asking how much she had (1/2 tank), I told her I cant support her finacially and calling me or her mother everytime she needed gas or food was not a good long term plan. This was going on two months ago and I havnt spoken to her since. I try calling; no answer. I try texting; no reply. I've even tried email.

I know she's still in contact with my ex because I've reached out to her to see if my daughters okay. On the two occasions, my ex has simply replied "she's fine".

My daughters reaction and behavior is exactly what my ex would have done. Ask, take, ask for more, take more, ask again, get denied, cut you off.

My concern / hope is that I can get contact with my daughter and get her into therapy (which I've offered to pay for openly many times). I believe she was on the cusp of discovery which could have opened the door to her getting better. In my trying, I'm starting to feel like a stalker; I text, call, text again and call again. Never a reply, but if she hasnt blocked me and see's all the attempts, I probably come off as a whacko. I'm equally concerned that by not trying to contact her, she's now getting the validation to back her mothers narrative that I've never been there for her and never will.

I read all these story's from kids with Nparents saying they'll do anything to coax them back into there lives. I ask myself "is that me?"....holy shit, what a mind f**k.

I just want her to be free from the crap...find a way to support herself and smile again. maybe she's a narc like her mother, maybe I'm the narc and just cant see it.

I've put myself in therapy, hopefully that will help but at an hour a week, its gunna take some time.

Does this experience resonate with anyone? Should I re-post this somewhere else?

15 Comments
2022/09/16
00:00 UTC

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How can I Co-Parent with my Narcissistic Ex?

This is going to be quite long, I apologize. I'm unsure if this is the right group to be posting in or not. So, here goes..

A little backstory:

I(28f) currently own a house with my Narcissistic Ex(39m). We own the property 100% together. And we have a child(5f) together as well. We were dating from 2016-2019. He was emotionally abusive, even well into the beginning of our relationship but I wanted so badly to have something that I just ignored the signs. Within the first week he cheated on me with some girl over Skype stating he had no idea it wasn't me, and on top of that she was 14 threaten to take him to court unless he paid her so much money. That just went away after a week or so. It took him three months into our relationship and me begging him to give me his number because I didn't need to know it. We were at his parents one time and in front of his brother and his wife, pulled my shirt down to cup my breast to show them that he could do it. Fast forward to us getting pregnant, when his parents found out the first thing they asked was "Are you even going to marry this girl" to his response was just walking away from them. We had our child, he didn't want anything to do with her. He said that he would be more inclined to play with her once she was older and could actually do stuff. We got into an arguement once and he picked up May(Fake name for obvious reasons) and held her away from me making my maternal instincts kick in, along with dread and fear that he was going to leave with her and never come back. So, I started to scream at him to give me my child back. He told me I had to calm down before he made me calm down. And that he wasn't going to give me her unless I got myself under control. He tried to leave out the door with her stating he was just going to his parents and I wasn't invited. I don't remember much of what happened after I was so scared I would never see her again. I remembered being able to hold her for all of 2 minutes before he ripped her out of my arms and left.

He would belittle me, call me names, when I had snooped through his phone because he was acting strange for weeks prior, I had found he was talking to another woman. When I confronted him about it, he told me it was my own fault my feelings were hurt because I was the one going through his phone. Right at the new year of 2019 he had apparently broken up with me at work. He had never said a thing to me. I went almost 7 months thinking we were still together. People would come up to me and ask if I was okay and I'm just like "What do you mean?" They would tell me that my ex had been telling people he broke up with me. 7 months goes by and he tries to pull me into an embrace talking about how he wanted to try again and that he could forgive me for being the way I was. I told him I wasn't interested. A week later he said he was bringing another woman to live in the house we owned together. I told him I was going to make a new room downstairs and he refused to let me do that. Told me I had to sleep in their room with them. Only when the new girlfriend told him that wasn't happening did he 'let' me build a room downstairs.

A few months pass and I meet a girl(28f) at work we go out start dating, I introduce her to May about 4 months into our relationship. My ex already doesn't like her because as he put it "My brother and I both got left for women". I'm still living at the house my ex and I own together. His girlfriend at the time left him for making her feel shitty, so he had his brother move into the house with us. They were there own unit, whatever. I convinced my current girlfriend to move in to the house as well, because we wanted to save up to buy her first house for herself. It was cheaper at them time. My girlfriend moves in, and everything's decent for the first three months.

May was diagnosed with autism and ADHD, and requires a schedule to help her through the day. My ex knows she was diagnosed but does nothing to help her. He buys her toys every time he's with her, so now when I take her to the store she has tantrums if she doesn't get something. He only ever feeds her fast food because he's never home with her. May has a scheduled bedtime for 7:30, he won't put her to bed until 8:30-9. Then he gets her out of bed around 9-10 in the morning. May wakes up at 7am most days. He has May for two full days and then two hours for two more days. I care for her for a full five days a week. He doesn't acknowledge that. He's always telling me I only watch her three days a week. He called me dumb for wanting May to brush her teeth in the morning before breakfast. Takes her out of freshly washed clothing unless they're clothing that he bought. Has stolen milk my girlfriend and I had bought, claiming that the house was solely his and he could do what he pleased.

My ex is also in a new relationship with a 19 year old female. They got pregnant 3 months into it, and had the baby. His girlfriend also lives here now, he makes it appoint to wake up May when she's sleeping just to show off his new child. We recently started Kindergarten for May and I insisted that I was going to put May on the bus Monday through Thursday. He told me I was only going to do it Tuesday through Thursday because those were my days with her. When I told him I had Monday covered as well he told me if I was going to argue with him he would just take away all my days and do it himself like he was doing previously. I wanted to be the one putting her on the bus because that would be a better transition for when my girlfriend and I leave the house.

He's continued to make living here miserable. He has made everything much more difficult. He doesn't respect me or my decisions for May. He's made it a point to make me look like I'm the danger to our child. My girlfriend is extremely protective of me and May. She would go through hell and back to make sure we were safe, and she doesn't let my ex bully me into anything. Which I feel why he hates her. He has no other way to control me but through our child. It's been an exhausting year here. I'm just looking for some support I guess, and to feel like I'm not crazy.

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2022/09/07
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