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Information and support for those affected by alcoholism/Alcohol Use Disorder. If you are concerned about alcohol's effect on your life or a loved one's life, please feel welcome.

Information and support for those affected by alcoholism/Alcohol Use Disorder. If you are concerned about alcohol's effect on your life or a loved one's life, please feel welcome.

We have a few simple rules for this subreddit:

  1. This is a sober space. Please do not post or comment while you are intoxicated. Feel free to come back after you've slept it off.

  2. Exclusionary language and attitudes are not allowed in /r/alcoholism. Rudeness, insults, and disrespect will not be tolerated. Disagreement and debate and alternative opinions are welcome, but rudeness is never appropriate.

  3. This subreddit is for people struggling with addiction and working on sobriety. Text posts, link posts, and comments that are not appropriate will be removed. Inappropriate topics include:

  • Romanticizing and glorifying intoxicants
  • Commercial posts, promoting a specific product or service for sale
  • Surveys/ seeking participants for research studies or similar
  • Crowdfunding or charity appeals
  • When commenting, remember that this is a forum for discussion. Comments or posts with a single purpose of linking elsewhere will be removed.

  • No bots are allowed in this subreddit. If you see a comment from a bot, please report it.

  • We are not doctors, please refrain from asking for medical advice here - if you are worried about your symptoms, please see an actual doctor and be honest!

  • No photos of your pile of empties or bottles of alcohol, people drinking etc please - nobody needs to see that! This is not Facebook, and we discourage gratuitous selfies etc with no context (relevant pictures like 'before/after sobriety' pics are generally OK) - other pictures or images may be removed at the mods' discretion.


  • If you are worried about a friend or relative's drinking:

    r/alanon A fellowship of relatives and friends of alcoholics who share their experience, strength, and hope in order to solve their common problems.

    r/AdultChildren A support group for those who were raised by alcoholic or otherwise dysfunctional caregivers.

    Al-Anon The wider organisation of Alanon

    Ala-Teen For those aged 13-19 being affected by a family member's drinking

    SMART Recovery The family section of SMART Recovery

    The Laundry List of traits of Adult Children Of Alcoholics from ACOA


    Alcoholism self-screening tests:

    Do I have a problem? - detailed self-assessment questions for Alcohol Use Disorder, by u/TheWoodBotherer

    12 Questions Only You Can Answer

    DSM 5 Alcohol Use Disorder screening (Scroll down.)


    The 12 'Fucked' Steps - a sweary re-write of the 12 steps from AA!

    How To Deal With The Fuck-Its by Redditor u/PJMurphy


    Medical information on alcohol withdrawal

    More information on withdrawal and related topics

    Information on the Kindling Effect, where withdrawal symptoms can get worse every time you go through it


    SAMHSA’s National Helpline (U.S.) is a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental health and/or substance use disorders.


    Programs of recovery (not affiliated with reddit):

    Alcoholics Anonymous

    Adult Children of Alcoholics

    Agnostic AA NYC (includes a worldwide listing of Agnostic AA meetings)

    Buddhist Recovery Network

    Cocaine Anonymous

    Crystal Meth Anonymous

    Dual Recovery Anonymous

    Heroin Anonymous

    LifeRing

    Marijuana Anonymous

    Narcotics Anonymous

    Rational Recovery

    Refuge Recovery

    Recovery Dharma

    SMART Recovery

    Women for Sobriety


    What are AA meetings like?

    What to expect at an AA meeting by redditor /u/coolcrosby

    Your First AA Meeting, An Unofficial Guide For the Perplexed by Floyd P. Garrett, M.D.


    Related reddits:

    /r/stopdrinking, a place to motivate each other to control or stop drinking

    /r/Alcoholism_Medication, for discussion of the various medical options that can be used in the treatment of Alcohol Use Disorder

    /r/dryalcoholics, a support group that doesn't care about what stage you are in quitting or moderating your drinking, just that you are making an effort

    /r/AtheistTwelveSteppers, for atheists in recovery

    /r/Alcoholicsanonymous

    /r/redditorsinrecovery, for redditors in recovery to hang out, share experiences, and support each other

    /r/smartrecovery, focused on the SMART Recovery 4-Point Program

    /r/opiatesrecovery, dedicated to helping you kick the habit

    /r/leaves, for people trying to quit smoking weed or deciding if they should

    /r/stopsmoking, to motivate each other to quit smoking

    /r/sugarfree, for redditors dealing with sugar addiction

    /r/decaf, for redditors wishing to cut out caffeine

    /r/recovery, a sub about recovery from anything, including drugs, trauma, mental illness, bigotry etc

    /r/problemgambling, a resource for individuals who have struggled - or know somebody who has struggled - with a gambling problem

    /r/sober, redditors helping each other get and stay sober

    /r/Young_Alcoholics, for anyone under 30 who is actively recovering, successfully recovered, or struggling with alcohol abuse and/or the struggles/positives of being sober at a young age

    /r/addiction, discussion about addiction in all its forms

    /r/MentalHealthUK, providing support, resources and a space aimed mainly at people in the UK dealing with mental health issues

    /r/wetbrain, support and information about Wernicke encephalopathy/Korsakoff syndrome, a condition often associated with late stage alcoholism

    /r/crippled_alcoholics, an addiction support and recovery community that focuses on free speech for harm reduction pertaining to current and former alcoholics, whether or not you want to stop drinking

    /r/RecoveryArts, share the artistic visualizations and creations that reflect your unique recovery journey


    Links to recovery literature:

    The Books List from r/stopdrinking

    Big Book of AA

    Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions (Bill W)

    Various AA pamphlets

    Various NA books and pamphlets

    Living Sober

    Marijuana Anonymous pamphlets

    Crystal Meth Anonymous Literature

    WFS New Life Program

    Adult Children of Alcoholics


    Online Meetings:

    AA Online Meeting Finder

    SMART Recovery

    In The Rooms

    Refuge Recovery

    Recovery Dharma

    LifeRing

    24/7 AA Meetings on Zoom


    Podcasts:

    Recovery Elevator

    Dharma Punx

    This Naked Mind

    Bubble Hour

    Take A Break

    SoberCast


    Other useful websites:

    Alcohol Explained

    Lying Minds

    Mrs D Is Going Without (blog)

    The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA) supports and conducts research on the impact of alcohol use on human health and well-being


    Other helpful links:

    Sober Recovery (recovery resources, very active forum)

    Agnostic AA Meetings

    ICYPAA (The International Conference of Young People in Alcoholics Anonymous)

    EURYPAA (The All-Europe Young People in AA Convention)


    Please message the moderators if you have any suggestions about the subreddit.

    /r/alcoholism

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    21 years of one day at a time today! Twenty one years ago I was in a psych-ward on a police hold after I tried to kill myself. I had just been diagnosed with cancer ( the second time having cancer) I had had seven years sobriety when I was told I had cancer again and I just could not deal.

    Yay me! Go to meetings, help others, don't drink between meetings and write a gratitude list!

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    2024/11/10
    22:23 UTC

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    New

    I am a functional but emotionally dependent alcoholic, specifically after work post 5.30pm. lm not into spirits or anything else in my cupboards only wine. Recently diagnosed with diabetes and fatty liver. I have requested addiction specialist help and I’ve hated every moment in being in the clinic. I am not allowed to go cold turkey. And the next detox aid period is in January. I want to go sober before this are there any tips?

    It is so hard to cut down without cold turkey. But cold turkey is terrifying having tried it before.

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    2024/11/10
    22:22 UTC

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    Do I need to taper or will I live?

    I've been on a bit of a bender, anywhere from 12-30 beers a day, since about this time last October. I've had days I thought I could come off it, but needed one for anxiety and end up having too much. I wake up most mornings needing a couple to get out of bed, some mornings I wake up sweaty, some mornings I wake up dry heaving or full on puking, some mornings I'm ok. Is this just hangover/anxiety or do I need to actually taper?

    6 Comments
    2024/11/10
    22:16 UTC

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    How?

    I get sober and manage like 3 days then I end up drinking like an entre bottle opf vodka and get absolutely hammered. How do people get sober? Like to me it seems impossivled and I wanr to know how to stop like I'm hammered now and feel like shit but so good at the sametime and it's causing me so many problems like health and like personal life, job, uni etc. Fuck me, how do i do this shit?

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    2024/11/10
    21:57 UTC

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    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ALCOHOLISM.

    The new scientific term is “Alcohol Use Disorder.”

    You may have AUD if one or more of these statements is true:

    You can't relax or fall asleep without drinking. You need a drink in the morning to get going. To be social, you have to drink. Alcohol serves as your escape from feelings. After drinking, you drive. You mix alcohol and medications. You drink when you're pregnant or caring for small children. When loved ones ask how much you drink, you don't tell the truth. You hurt people or become angry when you drink. It's tough for you to remember what you did when you were drinking. Your responsibilities suffer because of your drinking. Drinking has caused you legal problems. You tried to stop drinking but failed. You can't stop thinking about drinking. To feel the effects of alcohol, you have to drink more and more. You have withdrawal symptoms after you stop drinking for too long, like shakiness, nausea, trouble sleeping, or seizures.

    The fact is that the majority of people who drink have this disorder. And it’s only a chronic illness if you can’t stop or control your drinking even though it’s hurting your social life, your job, or your health.

    Meaning, those of us who chose to stop drinking poison aren’t the sick ones. It’s the other way around!

    35 Comments
    2024/11/10
    20:55 UTC

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    Hangxiety how to deal with?

    I drink like 5-6 times every year, but whenever i get really drunk i always ends up talking to random people who i know but only from the streets (live in small village so we all know each other) and then i say random things to them that i regret in morning and then i deal with anxiety for few days after drinking and overthink what i did and said cause i cant remember most of things i said.

    4 Comments
    2024/11/10
    20:18 UTC

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    Can anyone relate to the film Shame (2011)?

    I’m not alcohol dependent myself but the film reminds me of somebody I know who is.

    I’ve watched it before years ago and just re-watched it but now it has much more meaning to me. Can you relate?

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    2024/11/10
    18:35 UTC

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    Worst thing you’ve said?

    I’m feeling really anxious this morning. Was hammered drunk last night and rolling with a group of strangers around bar close. I ended up giving them a ride home even though I should not have been driving. But I’m thinking more about the things I said on the way.

    I have a morbid sense of humor but keep it in check most of the time, especially in mixed company. However, last night I definitely let the filter down. I can’t be sure, but I at least think they thought I was funny. But when I really consider some of the things I was saying/joking about I just cringe. It was some truly disturbing stuff. It’s amazing that I’m such a reserved person but can say these things to complete strangers if I’ve had enough to drink. I’m really embarrassed right now.

    18 Comments
    2024/11/10
    17:54 UTC

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    13 years sober today (11/10/11)

    Super grateful and blessed every day!

    Everyone have a wonderful sober day!

    17 Comments
    2024/11/10
    15:52 UTC

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    Crossed a line last night.

    Hey everyone, first time in this sub. This will likely be a mess so please bear with me. Last night I crossed a line, don’t remember it but from what I heard it was terrible. I’ve been trying to convince myself I’m not an alcoholic because I stopped drinking often like I used to, and don’t really crave it much. But when I do drink, I can’t stop myself, and black out most of the time. I think I need to get sober fully. I don’t know how I’ll do it. i dont even want to tell my boyfriend I need to quit because I’m scared of failing. Sorry this is a mess just scared and idk where to start/:

    8 Comments
    2024/11/10
    15:21 UTC

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    Pretty cool waking up sober, I think I can get use to this!

    My daily consumption for years was 15-20 units, beer, tequila and wine. Every day. I would only drink “after” work, but working from home “after” became more flexible, usually cracking a cooler by 3:30-4:00 as I finish my day. Awhile back I started to get mild withdrawal symptoms every day, starting around noon. Confusion, sweats, shakes, and they gradually got worse. I lived with them and would watch the clock until I knew it was time for a drink. Driving was an issue, not b/c I was impaired during the day but symptoms made me feel unsafe to drive, and I need this as part of my job. On top of this I have SVT- a severe form of tachycardia, which I had surgery on my heart for a year and a half ago. This cocktail I was allowing to mix in my body- I don’t need to describe to you fine folks how awful I felt every day, and my mental health really began to suffer as well. I hid it very well from the outside world. After a lot of work and vulnerability I’m now waking up sober every day which has not happened for more than 20 years. I’m grateful to be alive. I have a long way to go and a lot to learn. I still don’t feel 100%, but man, I wake up with a genuine smile. Peace to all of you and I hope you can find your true smile.

    7 Comments
    2024/11/10
    13:42 UTC

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    Alcoholic grandfather

    Never really posted before but just looking for some advice..

    My grandfather has had a continual problem with drinking at various points in my life...

    Last year my Grandmother was diagnosed with Vascular Dementia and since then he has been getting gradually worse. He currently has not eaten for nearly a week just simply woken up and drank is much that he is back in bed within 3 hours and "asleep" most of the day.

    I understand that he is struggling to deal with the terminal situation of my Grandmother however instead of trying to make the most of it whilst he can he is just giving up.

    My Grandmother is also medicated for various ailments, one of which is Diabetes.. I caught her administering her own medication today which she has no idea how to do or how much to take, due to needing navigation immediately prior. This is obviously concerning for myself, as if she has too much insulin she could end up in a very bad situation.

    My Grandfather continuously lies to everyone about what he is doing, especially my Grandmother who sadly can't remember things for very long and always just reverts back to him "not feeling well" as she knows no better and refuses to accept its happening.

    I have caught him in various local shops, found bottles around the house and confronted him everytime which only leads to him either laughing in my face or just ignoring me.

    His brother killed himself the exact same way approximately 6 years ago and he knows first-hand how much this can affect others. I understand he must be upset but I do believe he is being rather selfish and choosing to hide away from it rather than dealing with it and doing his husbandly duty of care to my Grandmother.

    I have to work in various areas of the country throughout the week and cannot always be here and it just causes me a severe amount of distress knowing he's throwing a pity party in bed.

    I've tried to help, I've tried to talk to him but its always just thrown back in my face eith more lies and false promises; swearing on my life that he won't drink/isn't drunk when is slurring drunk in my face.

    I just don't know what to do anymore and don't want to give up on him but as the old saying goes "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

    UK based, any advice welcome.

    2 Comments
    2024/11/10
    13:20 UTC

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    How bad did your alcoholism get and how long were drinking. I know it’s not a race and how much, but i think it’s important to realise from others. Would be good to know the reason why as well. Struggling at the moment on 3-2 bottles a day, but have managed to stop the “top shelf spirits”.

    19 Comments
    2024/11/10
    11:23 UTC

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    How did you stop?

    I’ve been binge drinking pretty heavy for almost 2 years. Lately I randomly got this feeling that I need to stop because I’m very worried about my health. I drink about 8-10 5% drinks per evening/night. What would be a way for me to safely stop? I’m worried about DTs, seizures, etc. What methods helped you if you had a similar situation?

    12 Comments
    2024/11/10
    11:18 UTC

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    Should I go to AA?

    I’m a child of an Alcoholic, and come from a long line of addicts. I can’t drink, as I have low blood pressure and I am intolerant to it, and even when I did drink it wouldn’t be rough or often. However my doctor said my (diagnosed by a psychiatrist…) general anxiety disorder and severe depression were subconsciously triggered and caused by the fact I was raised by an alcoholic. I don’t get it, like yes I have issues and yes my dad definitely contributed being drunk every single night of my life, but i don’t think it was so bad that I myself need to go to a support group for it?? My dad has had 3-5 beers after work every single day since he was 12, when he was 56 he started having liver problems, he was then diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver. Still drank until he was told zero alcohol. He was sober for 2 years with the occasional drink, and recently gone back to drinking in the last 6 months. Pisses me the fuck off cus I’m 18, i’d like my dad to walk my down the aisle and meet my children. Could the effects of his alcoholism affect me so much I need to seek alcoholic help for it?? Has anybody else been in my situation before and seen improvement?

    12 Comments
    2024/11/10
    09:14 UTC

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    Soo tired can Barley make it through the day but then I go to lay an I feel awake I just want soke sleep

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    2024/11/10
    07:03 UTC

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    Wanted to share

    In 2017 I basically died. The only people that know the story are the ones that were there. I was showing pretty bad signs of liver failure already. My family was all on a Disneyland trip. My wife and I were had come back to our hotel room after a day in the parks. I felt kind of light headed so I went to bed early. Around 1 in the morning I woke up feeling like i was about to throw up. I got up but before I could get too far I spray the wall of my hotel room with blood from my mouth. I keep down what I can and just unload into the toilet when I can get to it with blood. There was a lot of family drama and bullshit but I end up getting to U.C. Irvine. They had one guy with a stab wound but stop taking anyone else after me. I was pure white and shivering. The last thing I remember hearing was "if he does it again, we're going to intubate". Obviously i threw up blood again so they put me under. Everything after this is what I heard later. It was the middle of the night and they scoped my stomach and couldn't find where it was coming from. They asked my wife if we wanted to wait for an expert(2 hours out) or do exploratory surgery to try to find where it was coming from. She asked the doctor. They said they couldn't say but kind of head nodded to not waiting. So they cut me open, looked through everything, and didn't end up finding the bleed until the doctor showed up 2 hours later anyway a blood vessel burst in my stomach. They went in and cotterized(sp) it. Anyway, I woke up 2 weeks later and every person in my family had a different relationship and I had to spend the next few years learning where everyone stood. Super ranting, super run on. Sorry.

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    2024/11/10
    06:32 UTC

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    Alcoholic bf sexually assaulted a girl

    I (27F) broke up with my bf (37M) this week after 1.5 years of dating. He had been making attempts at getting sober, and we were in couples therapy to work through the strain that alcoholism and substance abuse had put on our relationship. I loved this man with my whole being, and I was looking forward to marrying him someday and building a life together.

    But this week, a long-time friend of mine confided in me that she had heard that my bf had sexually assaulted a girl at a music event before we started dating. After talking with other people who were there, they all confirmed it was true. The girl he assaulted moved across the country to feel safe after it happened.

    I confronted my bf about it, and he does not deny it happened. But he says he was blacked out and wouldn’t consciously do that. I instantly lost all love for him and now only feel disgust. How could I fall so in love with a rapist?

    Idk why I’m posting this. Maybe to get it off my chest. Maybe for advice. Maybe to inspire someone to commit to sobriety. Maybe as a reminder that drunk actions now may haunt you forever. I’m just so fucking disappointed and heartbroken.

    20 Comments
    2024/11/10
    05:12 UTC

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    The fight...

    Between wanting another drink and wanting to wake up without a hangover.

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    2024/11/10
    04:29 UTC

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    What kind of doctor?

    I see the rules state not to seek or give medical advice so I’m choosing my words carefully

    What kind of doctor do I need to seek out to determine what mental issues may be leading to alcoholism and could potentially prescribe medication to facilitate overcoming the issues at hand etc

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    2024/11/10
    03:05 UTC

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    I️ messed up big time

    All it took was a cocktail and 4 beers. I’m on a new mood stabilizer that’s been helping me with emotional reactivity and last night I️ picked a fight with my partner blacked out and called him boring, made him show me his phone, locked myself in the bathroom with it.

    Woke up mad at him because of a small comment he made when I️ said that trump is taking women back years. Didn’t even know that once I️ was triggered I️ blacked out and was just like my parents. Verbally abusive. I’ve got CPTSD and I️ knew better. I️ fucking knew better and I️ drank anyway. It’s been an issue for years and I’ve known it. I’m in my bathroom finishing the last of my vodka before I️ quit for a month and hopefully more but it’s scary to say more right now.

    I’m so, so, so disappointed in myself. I’ve become what I️ hated. I️ grew up with years of torment from alcoholic parents.

    I’m so sad. I’m so angry. I’m so disappointed. I️ can’t believe he hasn’t left me yet. Maybe he will. He’s the first healthy person I’ve dated and yesterday I️ beat him down verbally. When he told me what I️ did I️ almost threw up. He means the world to me. I️ also have anxious attachment so I’m just absolutely devastated right now that I️ did this. I’m 33 years old. I️ don’t know what to do but sit in my bathroom and cry right now. It’s hard not to hate myself. I️ could use any advice or support. I️ don’t know.

    22 Comments
    2024/11/10
    02:08 UTC

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    I feel like drinking .

    So recently i broke a bone and have been basically out of work for a while . I have not drank since and to be honest i needed the break. People in my family were starting to get tired of me drinking all the time and at the moment i feel trapped. I want to go to the store to buy myself some booze but i just feel like the people close to me are watching me just waiting to get disappointed again . This time of sobriety came unexpectedly and i never really agreed to it but it seems everyone is so proud of me except for me. If i walk to the store to get beer i know I’m going to get bad looks from my mom and my girlfriend. I just want to go grab a drink so bad without being judged . I hate the shame that comes with it. And i hate this feeling of boredom. I just wan to grab a drink like the good ol days and listen to my music at home. Just a quick vent.

    16 Comments
    2024/11/10
    00:34 UTC

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    AA meetings NYC

    Anyone know any meetings in nyc? Maybe even female focused? Thx

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    2024/11/10
    00:02 UTC

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    Trying to help as best as I can

    Hey y'all Idk if I can do this ( just let me know ) but I created a group in Facebook where everyone can share their struggles and help each other, I created it to see everyone's journey and motivate people to quit for a good reason, there is nothing to sell here, doing this with my heart and trying to help, you can ask questions and people will try to help you, we are less than 10 in the group so if you want to join the doors are open for you:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/776053697986106

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    2024/11/09
    20:38 UTC

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    im scared

    only ever experienced withdrawals lightly but today i genuinely though i was gonna die, i literally had to go to the shop to buy vodka because it was closer than the hopsital im going in tommorow and tapering with what i have left now but i was fucking seeing shadows and spiders and hearing people speak to me and it comes back 2-3 hours after my last drink but i literally scared to not drink

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    2024/11/09
    20:38 UTC

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    For those in long-term remission – How did you make it work?

    I'm interested in hearing from those who’ve managed to stay in remission from alcoholism for an extended period. A few questions:

    1. Did you use any medications to help with the process? Or work with a therapist?
    2. Was quitting a sudden decision ("I’m done with this, starting today") or more of a gradual process where you drank less over time?
    3. Were there any life changes (marriage, moving, children, etc.) that influenced your decision to stop?
    4. When you stopped, how well did you understand the physical impact of alcohol on the brain and liver? Did that knowledge help?
    5. How do you view your past dependency now? Was drinking a choice you made, a form of self-medication, or more of an illness in itself?

    Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences – any insights are valuable.

    25 Comments
    2024/11/09
    18:52 UTC

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    "Rock Bottom"

    Hi all, can you please let me know what your "rock bottom" was/is?

    I've been told by a few people that you have to hit rock bottom before you can get sober.

    Obviously that isn't always the case but I really need to know what was the one thing that stopped you drinking?

    I've been in jail, hospital with acute pancreatitis, my liver is going the same way, I'm in so my pain, can barely get out of bed

    But I don't want to stop.

    Am I screwed?

    86 Comments
    2024/11/09
    17:25 UTC

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    Married to a alcoholic

    I’ve been married almost 15 years to a man that I met at church! This was not either one of us first marriage. I was a widow. He had been divorced 22 years. We are both now in our early 60s. One of us are religious fanatics or freaks but we do love God and we really loved getting involved in being involved in church, we decided to make a move to a new place to live. He works anywhere from 50 and has one occasion work 114 hours one week and he’s gone about 99% of the time that’s just the nature of his work, he makes decent money, I stay home. I don’t have a job. I’ve been on disability since 2015 to look at me you wouldn’t think there was anything wrong with me but trust me there is sidenote don’t judge people. Oh what they look like. When we made our move closer to his office, he started to drink beer again and it was just ever so often when we were at the pool or when we went to the beach, we own a camper. And we love to when we can travel. Way way way before I met him he had a serious drinking problem. That’s what broke up his first marriage and several relationships for him when I met him he had been completely sober from drugs and alcohol for 22 years and the drinking has escalated to anywhere from 6 to 12 beers on a work night if he is home. And I have seen him more than one occasion drink a whole case of beer before noon on the weekend when he is sober he is the most wonderful, sweet, loving caring. I can talk to him about anything in adult manner. We can make decisions, etc.. of course like all alcoholics he lied to me about what he drinks all the time he has tells. And from being around him and knowing him as well as I do, I can tell you just about exactly how many beers he has had by how he looks how he’s holding his mouth and the famous closing one eye when I looking at me, but he’s only had two beers.
    He refuses to go to AA. He has been in counseling with me once and all this is taken place over the last eight years. He’s going to be retiring at the end of May. We’re going to purchase class A motorhome and he’s also going to continue to work. Kids are grown they’re gone so the doggies and I will be able to travel with him to his jobs.
    Because of certain medication’s, I take I rarely ever drink. Maybe a glass of wine if I’m out for dinner the most drinking I would do would be what I am at the beach. Nobody can say that drink that a good cold beer lay it on the beach isn’t the best thing in the world, but about three or four is my total limit because I’m a lightweight. My best girlfriend said that I should leave not telling him anything just go rent me a place and while he’s gone out of town for 23 weeks at a time just move it all out and let him come home and find nothing. I’ve threatened to leave him a couple times, he does not physically abuse me in anyway. And as I said what he’s sober, he is the most wonderful person you would ever meet in your life and even when he’s drunk off his butt around his friends he’s had for 45 years at the beach, we all go for two weeks every year together, he is the nicest person of them even though he faced. Upon talking to one of his friends that he knows his third grade he said the only other person that he does this to which I tell you in a minute was his first wife. Their marriage less is seven years and he was divorced 22 years before he married me. He was sober for 22 years before he married me and I’ve told him I think we need that separate for a while. You get the help you need and will work on it. My main problem is when he drinks. He gets so argumentative with me if I was looking at a white sheet of paper and I said look at that white sheet of paper was that papers not alabaster for example when is cyber he has the most positive person I’ve ever known when he’s drunk everything comes out of his mouth is thinking of negative negative And many times he is very narcissistic towards me and it doesn’t work on me because I grew up with a full-fledged, flaming alcoholic mother, who was the biggest manipulator and narcissist in the world she would give the devil a run for his money and when it doesn’t work on me has narcissistic behavior and I don’t argue back with him and infuriates him and makes it worse so he’ll chase me around the house while argue. I have actually locked the bedroom door when he was very drunk, so I want argue with him, he broke the door He has fallen into the walls of holes in him. He has broken glass top tables also broken antique of my grandmothers because he was so drunk and walk straight. My dilemma with leaving him to try to get him to snap out of this and realize that if he doesn’t straighten up, he’s gonna lose me is that he will choose the beer over our mirage he’s practically doing that now. I was very, very young when I married the first time and it had two children quite close together and I didn’t take my marriage seriously neither did he. We were married for 20 some years to be exact or actually I should say together 23 years total. I’ve just been kind of sitting around and praying and hoping and trying to talk to him when he’s sober about how I want the man I married back. I miss him and I’m lonely and he was my best friend. My very best friend I could tell him anything about anybody wouldn’t go any further, can’t do that anymore either because he gets drunk and tells everybody everything are there any other women or men going through the same type of situation. I love him with all my heart and soul. I don’t like who he is when he drinks at all I do not know that person and don’t wanna know that person. He is a totally different person, but I do love him He spoils me rotten. He takes no responsibility and handling the money though so if you were to ask him how much money he had to check account, he couldn’t tell you he couldn’t tell you how much a credit card debt we have not tell you what our payment is on anything. So I could actually leave close out the account at the bank. Both vehicles buy another one. And I have money to live comfortably on hey don’t even have a clue that I could do that who else has been through something and what advice would you give me? I think the reason I’ve been here this long is because of his job and where apart for so long. He does drink in the evenings when he’s out of town. And he manages to control that to where he’s not drunk like he is when he’s home so I know he has some control over it. OK this is enough. Very long post if some of it doesn’t make sense I’m talking to text and I’m not gonna proofread it cause I hate to proofread so if you have any questions you can ask me mainly I just need advice, but let me stress again I’m afraid if I leave Hill, I’d rather be able to drink all the beer. I won’t win a while not have to hear anything about it later. I’m sorry when I do try to talk to him about it when he’s sober in the mornings. He gets very defensive and tries to turn it around like it’s my fault and I know that’s the manipulation and narcissism coming out of him. Also call him on that and that makes him angry toobecause he knows he knows he needs to stop. He just doesn’t want to.

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    2024/11/09
    16:52 UTC

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    Day 666

    Hail Satan 🤘

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    2024/11/09
    15:24 UTC

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    Tired of this past few weeks been bad only getting like 3 or 4 hours of sleep each night I need to quit it's so hard

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