In S2, while working for Carla, Michael made a dupe of a keycard and hid it in his loft, using a slick in the hinge to the door of the balcony. Was that card ever seen again?

So I watched Burn Notice like 6 years ago, all the way through. Great show. One of my favorite funny lines was in the first season, we are all getting character introductions and there is a scene where Fiona criticizes Michael for working with Sam Axe again because he is a "sleazebag". I remember that being the first time I ever heard that word, thought it was funny.

Que another funny scene where Sam is explaining the word "pendejo" to Michael. It's funny, he says "ah, it's like idiot, but worse". I remember quoting that a lot and also just being a key memory when discussing that show.

Fast forward to now, where I am rewatching that show with my husband. Am I crazy, or the scene in the beginning of the TV show where Fiona is expressing her distain for Sam by calling him a sleazebag not even there anymore? Additionally, Sam now never says "pendejo, it's like idiot but worse". In fact, the first time I have heard that word in the rewatch was when I just hit an episode in mid season 3 where Larry returns. Fiona says it in one scene, then Larry says it in another scene. Both to Michael. "Pendejo, ah it's like idiot, but ruder."

I'm kind of tripping a little bit lol. Am I misremembering, or can anyone else coroborate the two scenes I could have sworn happened the first time I ever watched this show?

Hello BN community!

It seems that the TV film The Fall of Sam Axe has been followed by a bonus video entitled The Fall of Jeffrey Donovan (probably included on BluRay). There's a version posted on YouTube that lasts 3 minutes and is of poor quality. I managed to find the original version from a Russian site (lol) which is of better quality (Full HD 1080p) and lasts 11 minutes. I'm happy to share it here for those who want to see it.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07tIa3qY9B0

She's in Season 1, and plays her character Princess Margaret Tudor just like Fiona, lol. Very feisty!

Warning if you've never watched The Tudors, it has a lot of NSFW scenes. I watched some of it years ago when it was repeated on network channel and I was surprised. I guess most of those scenes were cut.

Off and on for the past few months I've been doing a marathon, my second viewing of the series. Loved this show when it aired. Literally joined the sub in the fourth season. But haven't posted much.

This week I planned my viewing to watch the last eight episodes in two nights.

I almost forgot how fantastic the show got near its end. I'm 26 minutes into this episode and can't wait for the next two. And I completely forgot about Simon.

This ride was definitely better than the first, and I'm sure at some point they'll be a third, and a fourth. Cheers to me finishing the series tonight.

Patton oswalt is probably my favorite cameo, and I can almost guarantee this line was his idea and maybe even improvised. But I digress:

Who is your favorite cameo?

If Michael just wanted to clear his name, I think his actions would have been understandable. But, Michael's "I need back in/I need an agency" schtick was selfish and dumb. He risked everyone else's lives to get back into a community that turned it's back on him after decades of stellar work and upstanding behavior. Every agency just took the burn notice/dossier at face value. Didn't even give him the benefit of the doubt and say "This is completely UNLIKE him. Maybe, just maybe, it's not true and he's being framed". And the hand full of people who didn't believe it, like his handler in the first season, weren't willing to help so were just as bad. Except Lucy.

Jesse was similar to Michael in the beginning but he eventually saw the light that Michael didn't and realized that back in was not it.

I saw someone comment that Michael actually didn't seem to like helping people that much. And I agree. He at least didn't like helping people on a small scale. He only liked large scale helping. Like saving the world helping with the CIA. Michael had to be pressured into helping people quite often by Fi, Sam, Jesse, Nate, and Madeline. He really brushed off people in need of help frequently and just told them to call the cops.

Sam is the moral compass and level head of the show. Which is good. However, he can be judgmental towards people who are not his own but expects the others to be accepting of his people. Ex. The way he just jumps on Samantha and Ayn before letting them explain what's going on but expects the others to just accept that his cop buddy and friend who ran the veteran's charity are good people.

We really should have gotten 100x more couple/romantic moments from Michael and Fi.

ETA: Strong said Michael ruined his career but Strong ruined his own career by putting Simon on that mission. Simon of ALL people. And then as if putting Simon on the mission wasn't bad enough, he made Simon leader of Alpha team meaning Michael had to follow Simon's orders. Michael would have completed that mission right then and there if Strong's desperation to catch a big fish and elevate his career hadn't lead him to make one of the stupid's decisions ever.

*Disclaimer: I know it's just a show.

Michael's weakness was NOT killing. I know Sonia said he had a low kill rate compared to his number of missions but he clearly had no problem killing pre burn notice. After the burn notice, not killing is what caused the major problems for him.

It seems after his burn notice, his analysis of when killing was not necessary was way off.

Had he killed Brennan when Brennan used Nate as bait, Brennan stealing the list and debrief of Michael outing Vaughn wouldn't have happened.

Had he killed Larry any of the 2 or 3 times before the consulate bombing, Fiona wouldn't have bombed the consulate and gone to prison.

Had he killed Card when Card killed Tyler Gray, he and the team wouldn't have had to go on the run. But, he allowed Card to put his gun back in his holster. Had Card not tried to manipulate him with the "I'm proud of you", Michael would have let him go even after Card tried to kill him and the team AND murdered Gray in cold blood right in front of him.

**I feel like there were better possible storylines that could have been written than multiple situations happening because Michael stupidly didn't kill someone.

For example when he's taken by Carmelo, he's way too sarcastic and cool under pressure for a supposed random handyman who just got kidnapped by a drug kingpin. He literally gets guns pointed at him and threatened with a knife and he's just cracking some joke or being sarcastic.

Anyone with brains could tell he is at least law enforcement or military trained and that it's not his first rodeo. He's clearly not who he says he is.

Another funny example is when Sam and Jesse went to the Liberian warlord's rocket lab posing as scientists and they're just straight up insulting armed guards and making demands like they own the place. I don't know how they don't arouse suspicion.

Anson was a pretty bad villain in that he was constantly re-stating his eeeeeeevil plan to Michael. So, why didn't the gang just record him and show the authorities that Fiona was being blackmailed?

An absolutely legendary line, I wanna hear some of your favorites

I don’t know if anyone else has ever made this connection, I’m sure someone has at some point, but in the last episode of the show they show a brief flash of the house Michael and Fiona live in with Charlie I had an epiphany. I just finished the show again. It’s usually my comfort background noise show so I’m rarely watching it intently and haven’t in years. But I saw the house and I was like oh shit, I know that house! It’s Iris’ house in my favorite Christmas movie The Holiday, and she lived in Surrey, England. So if anyone wonders where they ended up, there you go! That’s as close as I’ve ever seen anyone get to figuring out where they are so that’s what I’m sticking with.

Why, every time the feds, police, or even agent Riley, did Madeline not say, “you need to come back with a warrant”, or “ I need to see/speak to my lawyer first.” She always openly lets them in. Like I get she tries to play the whole “I’m a forgetful, hard of hearing, naive, old lady but I’m sorry that doesn’t come anywhere close or hold any of the same weight as I want my lawyer does and it confuses me especially with how often she boasts about how she can handle her self and no one should worry her.

#SPOILER BELOW

Madeline is a very frustrating character but my biggest pet peeve with her is S2 finale with Carla coming after his mom and Sam was trying to get her to leave and she was being difficult and by the time she realized Sam was serious an they should leave it was too late and they had to blow the front room to get away. She NEVER let that shit go, never let Sam live it down an always threw it in Sam’s face when the entire time it was HER FAULT for not leaving an not listening to Sam. Just like when they tried to tell her get out of town an Vaughn caught her.

I had some comments on a previous post that said Anson was the "most hated" bad guy in the series. I disagree, by the way. My most hated was Card. Card gave the order for the sniper to fire. The sniper killed Nate. Card is my most hated. My favorite bad guy is James Kendrick. Followed closely by Carla. Carla mostly because she was the hottest bad guy, but I also liked her style. She was still crap, but I liked her for some unknown reason. But, James... In S7E7... I actually WANT that! I'd love to figure out the demons that plague me on a daily basis. Plus, he's very personable! And I kind of think he has a just cause.

I think Matt Nix has believable reporter face though 😂😂😂

(ALSO ALAN RUCK FROM FERRIS BUELLER?!)

Hello,

I started watching Burn Notice about two months ago. I'm currently on season 2 episode 7, watching an episode every weekend to make it last, compared with two episodes every week for season 1.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the evolution of Michael's burn notice because unlike season 1, which I think was a success, season 2 is really slow on that front. OK, I understand that he's helping people every episode, but I think the central story takes too much of a back seat. Why didn't the creators devote one or two full episodes to his burn notice without necessarily forgetting that Michael helps people.

Sorry for the spoiler but I'm really trying to understand the link between Philip Cowan and Carla. Was Cowan working with her? What's more, in season 2, Carla asks Michael to reproduce a magnetic card and then in the following episodes, we don't hear any more about this card.

Tell me, will we learn much more about the burn notice in season 3?

Thanks for reading.

Often Michael will put his arm around someone’s neck and tells them to calm down and ‘go to sleep’ - does that really happen?

there was this episode where this guy disguised as Michael's dad's "psychiatrist" before his passing, then many years later he told this to Michael, I think....

Jeffrey Donovan was very fortunate to play a large range of personas as part of his Michael Weston's character, what was your favourite?

They went from the slick and swarve to the geeky red neck, mine was Cletus because everyone was always going to underestimate him.

As the flair says, this may be a spoiler if you haven’t seen this movie. >!Donovan is the bad guy in said movie. Not just the bad guy though. He’s THE bad guy in Wrath Of Man. I’ve seen him play a supporting role as a lowly thug or other criminal before, but never a criminal mastermind like in that movie. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, given the amount of times he’s pretended to be a bad guy in Burn Notice, but I thought he took it to another level in Wrath Of Man. There’s also a somewhat noble side to his character. He was trying set his family up for life, as well the families of his friends. Not that I support his actions (robbing banks and security companies) or the accuracy of the plot. !<I think he should have an Emmy or two for Burn Notice though and definitely an Oscar for Wrath Of Man.

Stupid show. I don't WANT to feel emotions right now! And you hit me with THIS line?! With the background and everything?!

Season 7 hits like a sledgehammer!

BRAVO, Writers. Bravo. 🤘❤️🤘

I love Sam, I really do, but when they were inside the chemical factory and Michael, Sam, and Dani were all looking on the cameras and Michael saw the 2 cameras that were turn then decided that’s where they were. When they went off to check the room and Sam got in front of Michael, Sam knew DAMN WELL what he was doing. He knew Michael was at his end point with Anson and he knew Michael wanted Ansons headline on a platter. Sam knew inside Michael was gonna pull the gun or swing on him. I get Sam is like the moral character but TOO OFTEN, and personally it’s WAY TOO OFTEN, Sam stops people from honestly get what they deserve…. Getting shot.

Honestly I think that’s why Michael left Sam’s ass in the hallway when he confronted Tom Card and shot him. Tom deserved to be shot, Tyler grey deserved it, Anson deserved to be shot (by Michael not Tyler), Brennen deserved to be shot, and Larry deserved to get shot/blown up a long, long time ago. But again tho, Sam stopped Michael from shooting at 2 at least, bitched that he couldn’t stop 1 (Tom) and pussy footed and didn’t let or shoot him himself (Larry).

AGAIN I LOVE SAM! I just feel like he’s too morally black and white. With him everything has to be good and has to be cleaned up and everyone turned over to police and, as Fiona said, other people in uniform. I just wanted a little more of a darkness feel to it like how in the pilot episode Michael shot both the guys that were holding him an taking him to get the money for “oil field security” Oleg or whatever dudes name was. I enjoyed that little bit of darkness to Michael,

Michael's long, floppy hair and Fiona's thick, dark eyebrows taking over most of her face--they're so distractingly bad. I genuinely don't understand what the show runners or makeup department were thinking.

https://youtu.be/VBhFKBxDqqA?si=Cz8fE-GF_Zl93RGG

So I saw this show recommended for fans of Monk and Psych - both of which came to UK netflix a few months ago, I binged them and loved them! I really had a blast watching Burn Notice, badass action sequences, cool on the fly plans/gadget making to get out of situations. The show was unexpectedly hilarious with some line deliveries and facial expressions particularly Mike, Sam, Maddy and Jesse plus touching on Michael's dark side with Larry/James was an interesting view and gave more depth and understanding to the way he operates and the internal struggle he has battled for so long.

The case of the week stuff was entertaining, switch your brain off and watch the craziness unfold. Yeah it had a formula and could be stale at times but any show like that has its duds.

The arc regarding who burnt him was quite thrilling at times but did get tiresome as it just seemed to go deeper and deeper - it was a little disappointing that James ended up being the final boss so to speak after all this build up of mystery corporations and betrayals by those he trusted most in the past but regardless it was a bittersweet ending (Maddy's sacrifice was heart breaking) and of ourse they made it out aive! I should've known better as I was sure they'd died from such an explosion but the plot armour is too strong haha.

Lovely last shot of them in Ireland to wrap it up, they earnt it - now I want a spin off of Sam and Jesse kicking ass! Solid show 8/10 for me.

He was trying to play a serious role, but all I could see was one of Michael's silly personas