In Season 3, Teresa owned a vineyard to say she was selling wine as a cover for the you-know-what, but then in Season 4 & 5 she was expanding her business but chose the cover of selling tequila. I was just wonder why the change? I get that she would have to switch her cover to fit in or accommodate with what the locals drink (in New Orleans) but even on the first episode of season 4 she meets Marcel and he says that Bourbon (if I am remembering correctly) is what they like. Also in season 3 when Teresa and Pote were speculating if James was the Mole or not, just before Pote pulled her away to discuss the recording, James asked for Tequila but was given Rum instead. So one can assume James likes Tequila. Though this was probably just a coincidence I'm just wondering what the explanation could be for this change??

So as I said in a recent post, I had rewatched the series again because I miss it. While rewatching it this time though I read some past posts on the sub at the same time to kind of relive it all. Some people were asking whether Teresa loved James or not, as it was made quite obvious that James loved her. Some stated that it might have been merely just attraction. I just wanted to share my take. So I actually I think Teresa really did love James. It just wasn't made totally clear to him or us (as viewers) by her actions.

I feel like it kind of hurts Teresa to love James or even show a hint of it. Not because of who he was but because of the situations they were in and because of her fear of losing him. Whenever she did anything that showed her liking towards him it never went well. In season 1, she helped him by coming back for him, by killing someone for him, and by providing strategic tips (this part was not even just for him but also for Camila). She killed someone for him because when they were ripping off those Miami dealers, they needed to get to the brother as per James words the guy saw his face and realized it was him. James said they can't let him leave. Teresa not only didn't let him leave, she shot the guy point blank. Sure the brother was about the shoot her first but she could have shot his arm (the arm near the gun) or something, right? Anyway fast-forward season 2, the stares shared between the two get longer and he sacrifices himself for her but she still does not forget to come back for him (smuggling tunnels episode). Then towards the end James gives that pushback speech about her being controlled by her emotions. In that speech James walked right over the line about things being "just business" between them because James said he chose Camila which he did (out of respect for his boss) but then said Teresa "chose" Guero. Teresa never really chose Guero and even if she did, they were in a relationship. She got stuck with him and stayed stuck as she felt responsible for him. Before Guero came, the two (J&T) were flirting out in the open. To me it was clear they liked each other quite a bit at that point. (Not to mention her kissing James in her hallucination) Then right after that Guero reappeared *eyeroll*. At the end of the season, Teresa offered James a job opportunity to not work for her but with her. He not only rejected the offer but shot at her.

Previous posts have stated that they don't think Teresa truly loves James because they don't think she ever saw him as an equal, a partner. The offer seemed to me like a gesture of just that. She saw who he was, what he could do, became accustomed to him being there, and respected him for it enough to ask him to come with her. I get that he would not have killed her but he could have just said no..? Then in season 3, he comes back she accepts him but ask him to work for her. This might be because of the shot. If I were to offer someone something and they shoot at me, regardless of whether they were trying to kill me or not, I'd be a bit snarky (or at least not as open or as nice as before). Some time passes, they admit their feelings of liking/attraction with a kiss that SHE initiated, one thing leads to another... She leaves to get him steak (do something for him/try to be normal) and then gets kidnapped. For one moment she was letting herself show affection. Then her ex comes back AGAIN. What would you do if your ex who you didn't necessarily end things with comes back when you were just starting to get comfortable with another guy??? Moving on, she's sad and full of guilt though we all know that dancing scene (with Guero) was out of pocket. It just was. James then decides to have Pote lock her in a room with food. I get the why but Teresa in my opinion was rightfully upset about how that went down. Fast-forward some more, they talk in the car. Teresa makes it clear that she does not regret what happened between them that night but she also would not want decisions made for her. That's understandable, her last bf that made a big decision without talking to her...yeah well it went terribly (They could have made her act a little bit nicer towards James but he also didn't have to shoot at her to reject the offer so). Later on, Teresa mistrusts James all at the hands of Pote. I see both/all sides. James: You should have told me, I mean come on I'm sleeping with you. I thought we were really connecting. Teresa: We were connecting but Pote made alot of good points. You literally worked with the CIA and may or may not have put a tracker of Tony's Gameboy. Pote: This has got nothing to do with me but I'ma run my mouth until I can't run it no more. It's all out of love for Teresa though. Moving right along, James is leaving. I feel like Teresa would have asked him to stay BUT because she loves him, she lets him go. In an episode she states that he "deserves better". She probably didn't feel worth loving. She also probably has abandonment issues. Skipping all of season 4. In season 5, Teresa is even more reserved and monotone but rightfully so, she lost tony. Every one she loves, either leaves or dies. Because she loves James and has deep feelings for him, she pushes him away. She seemed like she wanted to show him love but was in a state of despondency. They both were tbh. There was no reason to touch him on the arm in season 5 episode 2 but she did so there was still a strong connection there. All throughout season 5, there was a lack of dialogue (we all know this) but they both still looked like they loved each other. I say all of this to make a point that though Teresa did not show her love or allow herself to, I do think she really did/does love James.

ALSO, this is kind of funny and cute to me but is it just me or did Teresa in season 5 become James' season 1 and vice versa?? Like she literally became as serious and all business as James was in season 1.

Please tell me someone else was dying laughing at how inaccurate that ultrasound was? (I know movies & TV don’t need to be 100% medically accurate but that was more like an ultrasound of her lower lungs 😂

I love this show. I have watched and rewatched it many times and I recently did another. I have a couple of questions... um How do I move on?

Are there any shows like it? (and when i mean like it I mean with the exact balance) This show had action but it wasn't too bloody. It had relationships but it was too much (granted the last season had too much focus of one ship but I've gotten over it).

Last question which is not really a question but an observation sorta? After I finish a show, sometimes I look up the cast to see what they were in and to see if I'd be interested in watching other stuff they've played in and to learn more about them. This has happened with every show I've watched...anyway I'm rambling. Back to the point, I was looking up the cast of Qots and I've noticed that only one actor got an award for their part in the show. I'm glad and I think they deserve it but I'm just shocked the actor that plays Teresa (Alice Braga) didn't get an award. From what I've seen she's a cheerful and smiley person so it must have taken a bit to play such a reserved character like Teresa. She deserves an award in my opinion. They all did great though like seriously this is the one show where I think all the cast is chosen well and it fits. Is there another show I can watch (and it doesn't even have to involve cartels yk) that has a good cast selection, that is entertaining but also has a complex storyline??

I've watched Manifest (was good but I was so upset with the ending).

I've watched Night Agent (good but the main characters didn't have as high of chemistry as Jeresa which was still okay because not every ship is like another).

I've watched Lincoln Lawyer (so far so good but the next season can't come soon enough...lol)

I've been thinking about Griselda but I don't want to be disappointed and I don't want it to be to gruesome.

I've even invested time in older shows....Monk, Psych, and etc. (were great but they've ended)

AND I've heard of Breaking bad but I wasn't intrigued after the first episode. And Narcos but that sounds like it might be too Bloody for me.

Hi, sorry for the mistakes I use a translator. After my Breaking Bad and BCS rewatch, I'm in a QOTS rewatch. This makes me think that I would really like a prequel with Epifiano and Camila then Pote and James in the last seasons. But a prequel that would take its time like the style of the BB universe which has qualities of scenarios and incredible character development but with all the same action and atmosphere of QOTS. Yeah it will be really great.

Just watched the last one, now what?

Miss Pote already

Serious note. Really enjoyed that

Why is it that they're not ever wearing bullet proof vests in these gun fights? That is all. Well, for now. What bugged you?

The loss of James in S4 MAJORLY hurt the show. When he came back they didn't re-develop their connection and it didn't feel right. When Teresa and James finally kissed in S3 I was so excited (and also annoyed because it was such a short scene). There should've been much more passion with that first kiss and I fault the director, not the actors.

Anyway, when James came back in S5 he almost felt like a stranger and their love scenes didn't have the same connection or hold the same weight at all. Like not at all. Very disappointing.

I really disliked seasons 4 & 5 because of this. The loss of El Santo sucked. Did the actor not want to continue? How did she get her coke from the Colombians so pure? There was new adversary after new adversary, I couldn't keep track.

And of course without Camilla it just wasn't the same. Why couldn't they have Isabel become a new adversary instead of all these randos in S4?

The whole Derek CIA storyline made zero sense at all. Why would he want to kill Teresa yet keep Boaz? How does Boaz so easily get in touch with that Russian guy who won't talk to anyone?

Boaz was the worst. I finally thought he was becoming reasonable and then they make him psycho again for no reason really. I guess because of what happened to his cousin. But why wasn't he mad that his cousin essentially stole Emilia. Instead they bond over her loss. Again, makes no sense based on who we know Boaz to be. Boaz would've killed his cousin over that. Yet he goes to war with Teresa?

I guess all in all I get really mad at shows that have a really promising start and then jump the shark which is what happened here.

Based on a terrible ending and convoluted storylines in final two seasons. I would not recommend this show.

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The chemistry between Teresa and James is so strong. I have been binging these episodes just wanting more of them.

Then I feel like we were robbed of both love scenes in season 3 being way too short. Ugh! Like we waited 3 seasons for the first kiss and the whole scene was like 15 seconds. Meanwhile in some other shows the sex scenes between characters with zero chemistry go on and on.

And now he’s gone!!! Why is he not in season 4? His presence is greatly missed and it’s just not the same without him. The loss is very tangible.

Please no spoilers but I hope he returns soon. I’m on episode 5 of season 4 and getting frustrated. It’s also just one crisis after the next which I get for a show like this but I feel it would’ve benefited from more moments of slowing down and things being okay. And I wish we had that reflected with more passionate moments of Teresa and James.

Just finished watching the series. What did everyone think of the ending? After living life so on the edge for so long, it seems like it might be boring for them? Pote really made me laugh in the final season.

Watching for the first time. Javiers death was the only one that got me sad. Anyone else?

Take a shot of Tequila every time someone says:

1. Cabron

2. Theresa utters the words “Because we can help each other” / “because I know what it’s like to come from nothing” / “because you need my product and I need your distribution network” when a potential business partner asks why they should trust her.

3. Someone steals a shipment from Theresa

4. There’s a flashback of Theresa & Guero

5. An associate pledges loyalty and immediately turns around to stab Theresa in the back.

6. Theresa gets kidnapped

7. A duffel bag of money gets handed over to someone without getting counted.

8. Pote scowls at someone who stands too close to Theresa

9. Someone takes a shot of Tequila

10. Theresa doesn’t kill someone and it comes back to bite her in the ass

You’ll probably get 20 minutes into any episode and get alcohol poisoning.

Guys its been more than 2 years since the last time I’ve finished watching qots, ever since I struggled to find similar series that is as amazing and breathtaking as qots, I even watched the original version (I didn’t like it tho) so yeh if u got any recommendations pls share them and thxx

I was a Hardcore TM fan in S1 and S2...so rootin' for her. But this new TM in S4 totally forgot where she came from. Forgot her core values...here's what S1-2 TM would have done:

1. Kelly Ann gave her the docs that showed Camilla Vargas was setting her up (saved her from possible jail time), so when KA came to her and told her about her addiction issues she should have stepped up and been a friend instead of giving her that ice-queen, half-hearted, quasi-smile and dismissed her.
2. But when it comes to her boy-toys and her biz (forming alliances with friends, foes and strangers) out comes a full set of teeth and enuff warmth to make her glow.
3. Had she done right by KA, then she would not have been so susceptible to Devon Finch's "charms". KA made a bad choice with good intentions. There was no malice in her heart. S1-2 TM would have seen that.
4. The love of her life screws her over LARGE and she gives him another chance??? And please don't tell me that he couldn't get a message to her in the 3 months that he pretended to be dead, cuz he was able to ditch his DEA detail 2-3 times in order to meet up with TM. And in that time she got: raped, used as a mule, warehoused, threat to life everyday, sent on ridiculous missions all the while making nice-nice with CV. But THIS she can forgive??? Nah, not havin' it!!! Was a blow to all strong. self-sufficient women everywhere.
5. KA then comes out of hiding, risking her life to save TM's dumass godson. And she still can't come to forgive KA??? Still holding a grudge? CAN'T stand S4 TM. Can let things slide for the boys she's banging, but not for the Sisterhood. Typical. That's why women will always be 2nd class citizens. Can forgive some rando-dude for the utmost atrocities, but not a Sister with good intentions.
6. Birdie the Bartender is held hostage at gunpoint...this is way above her pay grade yet she did it like a champ and still kept smiling. Where is her $10K bonus? White-boy liquor license rando-dude official got $10K. Oh yah, that's right, anything for TM's biz...and a coma-like "thank you" for Birdie the Bartender. Cuz in the grand scheme of things who the hell is BB? Just a young, woman of colour, bartender who has chosen to work an honest job for crap pay. Poor TM, can't sleep with BB, neither can BB contribute to her biz = not worth $10K. After all, poor TM only makes more than $30 mill a month and rewarding her honest, hardworking, faithful sister employee who endured trauma on her behalf is just not her thing...and as I'm writing this, I just saw Birdie get assaulted and stabbed in the alleyway while taking out the trash!!! NO PROTECTION FOR BIRDIE!!! Let's see what Jefa does about this.
7. TM sends Pote alone to find her dumass godson. I say dumass cuz the kid knows about this biz and lost both his parents to it and still posts his life on social media = DUMASS. She herself has 3 people with her during a routine meeting, but sends Pote to another city looking for dumass without backup. Who does this?
8. And when Pote hurt his hand he felt ashamed and irrelevant. All TM had to do was take 5min outta her busy schedule and give him a hug, make eye contact and reassure him that it doesn't matter, he's family and always has a home with her. Instead, pats him on the arm and mutters something trite while walking away. Really? That's how you do Pote? Of all poeple? DIRTY, just DIRTY.

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She's turned into the very thing she once HATED. And now, I hate her. BTW: Birdie's dead and her response is to play with her boy. I had such high hopes for this show when I watched S1-2...finally an empowered woman who's gonna help the Sisterhood. But in the end, she turned into man...$ and sex.

THE BLUE ROSE is a must watch for The Sisterhood. In the Immortal Words of Annie Lennox and Aretha Franklin: Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves!!!

The King went out of his way to help Teresa and when he was in trouble where was she? She blows up her business to save 10 girls ( who were replaced the next day ) and by extension blows up her tribe’s future, but pulls a no-show for The King. Shows no love when Pote’s hand got damaged and no love for Kelly Anne. If she has this “big heart”, she should have taken the time to personally reassure HER people that they are heard and they are family even if they have lost the use of their hand or are struggling with addiction. But she’s too busy trying to expand a business that brings in $30 mill/month… GREEDY MUCH??? Safeguard your business. Tend to your Tribe. Have more BBQ’s. What’s the point of all this if you can’t crack a smile or a joke? King 🤴 George is the only character that knows about the importance of Tribe and Laughter!!!

So, George bought Teresa a yacht before he dies, and it shows her and pote blowing it up to escape the dead or something at the beginning of season 3, but it never actually shows that scene...? Unless I'm missing something?

Also the other season opener where she shots the guy she was sleeping with..?

And when she's chasing "poor" self and shoots her..?

Are these dreams or something?

Anyone got any answers?

I really enjoyed Season 3! Just starting S4. It will be a real loss not to have James though. Did we ever get any background on him? Like where did he come from? Such a cold blooded killer but seems like such a caring person. I’d love to know his back story.

Just finished the show. I am completely disappointed they didn't give us enough of Teresa and James in last season. They were working on building their relationship for 3 seasons for them at the end to have 5 minutes of screen time. 3rd season was the best.

I love Queen of the South, I just finished watching it for like the 3rd or 4th time. But several things don't make sense.

1. James didn't kill Kelly Anne. So what was that "thud" noise (which sounded exactly like a body dropping to the ground) after he fired the shot?
2. Why would Dumas help Pote after what Teresa did and how he felt about them? I doubt his feelings had somehow mellowed after 4 years.

There are a couple other things but I can't remember them right now. I guess when I watch it again, I'll write them down!

Just finishing Season 2. Not one single deal has gone right or according to plan. It’s a stretch to imagine why Camilla, Theresa and James are still at it.

Not necessarily a gang tattoo, but typically worn by people who do not abide by the law.

The image isn't him, but it's the same tattoo.

My question is; does it ever explain this? Or is it just something they weren't aware of, so they never made him cover it..?

I am only in session 3, so no big spoilers please!

Just let me know if it's ever mentioned or not. Thank you!

Also, does the site keep getting worse and worse? Or does it pick back up?

I have just started season 3 episode 1 and I am so confused on how does Teresa manage to find distributors all across Europe? Is it later explained in some episode or we just have to go along with that.

I’m almost finished Season 1. If Theresa became so trusted and important to Camilla, why was she living in the warehouse like a prison? Did Theresa earn any money for her work? It seems like she is a prisoner to Camilla.

Opinions?

I watched the television series and finished it about two years ago. I found the book the show is based on and I’m going to start reading it soon.

I’m just curious if there are any readers in this sub that may have read the book or are interested in reading it.

New QoS fan here and just started Season 4. As crazy as El Santo was, I really liked the connection (if you could call it that) between teresa and El Santo. I’m sad that he disappeared and wasn’t involved anymore 😞

Personally, I thought it would have been great to see El Santo actually come in and “fight” alongside Teresa/supply his cult gangsters to her to assist her fight with Cortez and Camilla but I appreciate his role was just to be a crazy supplier and nothing more. Just miss his crazy antics

Side note - I’m finding it hard to get into season 4. I miss James 😭