So I know Monogatari is known for being weird but Nise was, very weird? It’s a bit too much Brother-Sister for me, ya know? Araragi needs to be put down already 😭😭

Just curious as I am a bit new to the Monogatari franchise, and one of the things that I know about the anime version is that infamous toothbrush scene, but I don’t get why such a weird moment happened originally.

I did see the full clip online sure, but I just can’t understand why again such a bizarre moment happened as those two characters are supposed to be related, so yeah I still don’t understand the context behind such a wild moment in the anime version as I don’t know if this also happens in the original novel series too.

My next illustration, Hitagi crab bow

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why does the lyric keep switchign between the "tu" and "vous" pronoun. Is there some greater meaning to this or is it just a mistake?

in case you dont know, tu is a pronoun use when you're refering to a friend or when you're talking to someone casually. While "vous" is a pronoun use when you're refering to a "teacher", grownup, or someone of higher authority

Lyrics:

"Le monde est vous, vous êtes le monde

Étoile, et toi
Et toi, et moi
Tout ce que je vois
Tout ce que je ressens
Tu es mon univers

Je veux vous entendre appeler mon nom
Je peux te sentir dans mes bras
Et c'est l'amour qui va durer pour toujours"

and sorry, i haven't watched the anime, i've only know about this song thanks to spotify, and are currently trying to play it

I didn't add June because 6 is the maximum amount of poll options. I'll be incredibly surprised if that happens though...

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Just like the title says, I've been reading the bakemonogatari manga and there's been some insane panels and I was wondering how to get them without any text.

Hello! I just finished watching monogatari after about 1 year ( I took my time between watching each season for some reason. Idk why lol) and it's one of my favourite series of all time! Now I feel like I should rewatch it because I miss it already. Should I rewatch it or read the novels?

I'm not going to pretend I know what I'm talking about BUT other publishers like J-Novel, Yen Press, Seven Seas etc translate volumes for multiple series 100000x faster with 100000x less sales than the IP of Monogatari. It's just truly a shame Vertical/Kodansha has the rights to this. Binned off Zaregoto too. Been waiting years and I come back and not even 1% progress. This has most likely been spammed over the years so sorry for a repeat post but I'm pissed lol

I recently watched monogatari and I loved it. Also one of my favorite stories is tsukihime, do you guys think monogatari is inspired by it?

based off the pure pure rabbit hole animation by ChannelCastStation but with ononoki.

hi, newcomer here. And i wonder if the light novels has ended yet ?

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Yoo I recently finished rewatching the series in preparation for Off/Monster season.

I first watched Monogatari over 10 years ago (ugh). I saw the 2nd and 3rd seasons as they aired. I didn't see Zoku Owari before this rewatch because I was finishing my higher education at the time and wasn't keeping up with anime releases

Here are my random thoughts.

Novel order

I rewatched in novel publication order. This wasn't possible before because I was watching as it aired, so I had Hana after second season, waited years for Kizu, and had Koyomimonogatari sandwiched between Shinobu Mail and Mayoi Hell.

I think novel order works a lot better.

Hana was a bit whatever before, but it makes a lot more thematical sense before Otori and Koi. The entire point about no one between pure good or pure evil, best girl showing up as Suruga's sugar daddy before Hitagi End... I gained a new appreciation for this arc watching this in order.

Koyomimonogatari seems a bit random on first watch but it foreshadows A LOT of Owarimonogatari in retrospect (OUGI WAS CREATED BY KOYOMI ! OUGI WAS CREATED BY KOYOMI !). Likewise, Owari works better as an uninterrupted whole. It's all about Ougi. Ougi Formula is Araragi's first meeting with her, Sodachi arcs set her up as a negative influence, Shinobu Mail is the story of her creation, and Mayoi Hell-Hitagi Rendez Vous-Ougi Dark is the conclusion.

Actually knowing what's the deal with Shinobu before 90% of the way through the show makes a lot more sense. Hanekawa was always one of the best girls, but shines a lot more knowing about the events of Kizu.

I was, however, greatly displeased to learn that mathemagics was replaced as the OP for Sodachi Lost. (It's the best OP)

The good and the creepy

The Shaft style animation still holds up great. There is a distinctive shift from Bake and Kizu to other arcs due to the change in director. (A lot less Black/Red cards)

Despite this being 100 episodes long, the short arc structure made it fly by extremely fast, and most arcs feel pretty tight from a thematic standpoint.

The Sodachi arcs the most emotional to me. They are the only arcs that don't involve any supernatural presence, just human cruelty. And despite the relatively happy ending they are still very bittersweet, because Sodachi still had to endure years of abuse.

Rewatching as an adult in 2024 however, the excessive sexualization feels a lot creepier, especially around Hachikuji/Nadeko/Fire Sisters.

ZokuOwari

This was my first time watching this arc. It works great as an epilogue.

Mayoi Onee is a funny role reversal, happy Sodachi is a heartbreaking what if story, human Shinobu raises a lot of questions about her previous life... I was also waiting the entire arc to see reverse Hitagi, but it actually makes sense for her to not show up ! Koyomi doesn't regret choosing her at all.

What was Araragi's own regret ?

• It could be a bit of everything, hence why he sees everyone except Gahara, but IMO that feels like a bit of a cop out.
• Koyomi and Ougi are explicitly conflicted about hiding Tsukihi's true nature. Her not being reversed makes a lot of sense. She has no filter and lives in the moment, so she has nothing to hide and no regrets. Her yukata being reversed is interesting though. It could just be due to the entire town being left-right mirrored, but reverse kimonos are for the dead, so the immortal Tsukihi wearing one feels too significant to not matter.
• The fact that he has to return to the old classroom to resolve the incident might mean Araragi regrets not standing up for Sodachi most of all ? Or that he still has doubts about letting Ougi stay free.

I love how it bridges into Hana (Tooe's presence, the regret themes, explains why Ougi changed gender).

I wish we had more of Tooe ! She's such an important character despite her lack of screen time. What was her relationship with Kaiki ? Why does Izuko still have regrets over her ??? I WANT TO KNOW NISIO !

Fluff

Obligatory arc tier list

Obligatory opening tier list

When looking at the watch order guide, it tells me there's supposedly 20 episodes of Owarimonogatari, but when I look I can only see Season 1 with 12 episodes and Season 2 with 7 episodes. Am I missing something?

They have a really good deal going on for $30 you get all 40 items. Great buy imho.

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/monogatari-returns-again-kodansha-books?hmb_source=&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_3_layout_type_threes_tile_index_2_c_monogatarireturnsagainkodansha_bookbundle

And if it’s true , could this mean that they might officially translate the remaining novels into English?

I just finished the 3 Kizumonogatari movies and whilst I loved them and had a blast watching, I’m a little confused and have some questions.

I could be misremembering but throughout Bakemonogatari, does Araragi not claim to either owe his life to or have been saved by Kiss-Shot and/or Hanekawa? If so, how?

Sure Kiss-Shot “saved” him if we count her not killing Araragi as saving him. Did I miss something else?

And Hanekawa how? (Maybe he never said this in Bake I could be wrong) but how did she save his life or owe his life to her, by giving him the courage to not give up? These all make sense and I guess I’m stupid for expecting him to have been physically or literally saved by these two at some point.

Araragi and Kiss-Shot’s dynamic confuses me in general, their actions and reasons don’t add up completely to me, maybe I’ll learn even more in the future.

Also, whilst I really do like Senjougahara, just from what I’ve seen in Bake and now Kizu, how did Araragi and Hanekawa not end up together? (If things ever change don’t spoil I don’t mind either way it just adds up more from what I’ve seen so far)

Will I ever learn even more about Oshino Meme in a future part/season as he’s still a mystery to me. (Answer with Yes/No don’t give actual spoilers please)

I know this all seems like a rant or complaints but they’re not, I’m just a little slow lmao. I literally just finished watching as I’m typing this so yeah..

Either way, amazing movies. If I’m being an idiot, tell me!

I'm struggling in finding any good quotes for my yearbook (graduation album or idk how its called in English) and im starting to wonder if i can use some quote from best anime in the world because no matter what quote i will use, even not from anime, its gonna be a little cringy so i can give it a try