I'm watching an episode of the original "The Fugitive" series, and one of the guest stars is an actor named Peter Coe (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0168658/?ref\_=tt\_cst\_i\_7), who was once to married to a model/actress named Rosalee Calvert (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0130834/?ref\_=nm\_ov\_bio\_lk). I'm assuming the character name was just a coincidence, but I wouldn't swear to it. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?

Let me start by saying that I see the benefits of both types of storytelling, and that the best approach, imo, is when the two styles are combined in a season. Like, Grimm's later seasons. That said, one can't get episodic stories if a season is a mere 8-10 episodes.

If we ever get a new Grimm TV series, I hope it's not 8-10 serialized episodes because there won't be time for detailed backstories, layered world building, answers to the OG show's unanswered questions (hybrid Wesen, the keys, the coins, what happened to Nick, stories about the triplets and Diana, etc), etc.

Also, episodic TV is how and why we got cult favourite episodes like the Valentine's hotel/Hank mirror/love potion one. That wouldn't be possible in a tight 10 episode, single story arc.

The argument against episodic tv comes down to filler.

In a Star Trek thread today on Strange New Worlds that focused on the benefits of contained episodic storytelling in the old school model, someone made this comment about fillers existing even in the 8-10 serialized version:

*"Too many people complain about filler episodes with episodic series.

You get 20ish chances to tell all kinds of different stories with the old broadcast model.

With serialized streaming, it seems we normally get one story across an 8-10 episode season. Often that story would best be served in a 2-3 episode arc. So now we get only one story made up of 75% filler every couple years."*

That last point was one I hadn't considered, but it's true. ***There absolutely CAN be filler in an 8-episode modern serialized series! *** (See, e.g., The Day of The Jackal.)

What do you guys think about the fillers in the original Grimm show, and what storytelling model would you prefer to see in any potential upcoming new Grimm TV series, if there is one? A tight 8-10 serialized arc or the traditional 22-24 approach that includes a moderate amount of filler?

If you want a combination (as I do), how do you see it being done and what is the minimum number of episodes that can achieve both storytelling models in one season in your opinion?

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So when Eve was introduced we can assume she lived in the HW compound since she had a bed there and stuff. But after the destruction of HW, where did Eve live, like, permanently? If I recall correctly she did live with Nick and Adalind a while but did she stay there after all the Zerstorer stuff went down? Did she go back to Juliette and Nick's old place? Did she and Trubel find somewhere to live together, like maybe Trubel got a Grimm trailer of her own? Also, did none of Juliette's old friends/family question where Juliette was? Did Nick tell them Juliette died, and if so, was there no funeral? Also if they think Juliette is dead then what happens if they run into Eve? Like, Juliette has parents that presumably live in Portland, right? Or am I just overthinking all of this stuff?

In season 2, did Adalind plan all along to get pregnant by sleeping with Eric and Sean to get her powers back, or did she take the opportunity to get her powers back once she was pregnant? Because it's unclear.

Okay so, I’ve rewatched Grimm quite a few times but one thing I still don’t understand is the whole birds and the bees type of talk that Monroe and Rosalee had with Nick and Hank.

I didn’t understand what they meant when they were talking about two Wesen parents but different kinds. I was just wondering if you guys could explain it to me? I also have learning difficulties too, which is another reason why I didn’t understand their explanation

Season 4: episode 22. Why did Nick run into the house and go upstairs when he saw the helicopter coming in for a landing? Why not just follow the chopper?

I'm curious, why was Nick sleeping on the sofa, or at Monroe's house, when they had a whole guest bedroom available upstairs? When Nick & Juliette were going through their issues, after her memory loss, she did not want him sleeping with her. Understandable. But, Nick was sleeping on the sofa, covered in the blanket Bud's wife made for them, before moving to Monroe's house. Why not just sleep in the other room? I didn't notice it before but I'm noticing it on my re-watch.

I know we are supposed to be on Rosalee’s side between her mother, her and Deeta. And they position Deeta as really unlikable, but Deeta does have a point. Rosalee was an addict, but it doesn’t sound like she did the work on making amends with those she may have hurt in her family besides Freddie. Even her “apology” at the dinner was really a non apology, it was more like you have no idea how I feel instead of really asking for forgiveness. Rosalee was my favorite character and I just feel like they fell short there

I am rewatching Grimm for the umpteenth time and I'm on the episode where Henrietta tells Juliette she has no choice and a Hexenbiest is who she is now. Why hasn't no one tried to do what Nick did with Adalind and remove the Hexenbiest power from her with the blood of a Grimm? It's so frustrating because that is the obvious choice

Is there anything you wanted more of in the show? Personally I wish we got to see more of Nicks kids but hopefully we’ll see that in the new movie peacock is creating.

I loved it when Adalind turned to the good side that see and Rosalee started to become friends. Rosalee being there for Adalind after Kelly was born was. Adalind protecting Rosalee from Tony.

They both have super much knowledge about potions, magic and other Wesen related stuff.

It was sad that it was shifted aside once Eve came into the picture more and more. Adalind and Rosalee have a more natural dynamic than Juliette/Eve and Rosalee.

I’ve just finished this for the 10th time, literally. I still love this show and could watch it over and over. It will always be one of my favorites.

That being said, I can’t help but notice, especially after seeing other Redditors mention it, how emotionally unavailable Nick is. Like, when Monroe was trying to get married to Rosalee, Nick shows up, and they get into an argument about how he only ever comes over when he needs help with Wesen. Instead of acknowledging it, Nick just stands there and says something like, “Maybe it’s a bad time.” Like, dude. Just apologize, ask Monroe if he’s okay, and see if he needs anything. But nope, he just leaves without saying a word.

Another example is when Juliette becomes a Hexenbiest. She literally tells Nick she was scared he would kill her, and rather than actually understanding that she needed him the most in that moment, he makes it all about himself. Saying things like, “Renard knew you were a Hexenbiest before me?” and “Who’s Henrietta?” or “You’ve been seeing another Hexenbiest?” instead of, I don’t know, asking her how she’s feeling?

But on a lighter note, I did notice how emotionally available he always was for Trubel. He’s there for her, comforts her, and actually supports her. Which is great, but I just wish he had shown the same kind of care for people who arguably deserved it even more, like Juliette and especially Monroe.

And lastly, his phone. Oh my god, don’t even get me started. Every time a scene gets emotional or intimate, his phone always goes off, and he doesn’t even acknowledge it after. No, “Sorry, can we continue this conversation later?” Just, “I gotta go, this is important.” Every. Single. Time.

What are your thoughts and observations?

Anyone else not a fan of the episodes when Nick has lost his ability as a Grimm? First time I watched, I didn't mind. I was so enthralled with what was going on that it didn't bother me much. But after multiple (too many lol) rewatches, I just absolutely can't stand the episodes until he gets his powers back. Just me or anyone else feel it too? Lol

Hello, I’ve been seeing some post about people making their own Wesen and I wouldn’t mind making some of my own but I was wondering if there’s any groups out there that have their own head cannons and such about Grimm?

I was wondering if any of the Grimm cast meme bets still do conventions and where? I’d love to meet them one day!

"He's hitting on a girl, she's buying the full toad".. Monroe has some of the best lines

I saw countless scenes where they were all having wine or beer and they never offered Trubel a glass. She was 24 years old during the filming. Were they actually thinking we were dumb enough to believe she trying to play a high school kid?

This has probably been addressed before but how does nick not know Renard is a Wesen from episode 1? If I remember it was said grimms can see them woge when they loose control but he sees Adalaide when she is just waking across the street. Is Renard pretty much always in control? I'm guessing maybe because Adalaide told him nick is a Grimm so he already knew

I love Nick and Hank’s partnership and friendship.

Once Hank learns the truth about Nick being a Grimm, he supports him, he is not angry at him for keeping it a secret. He truly had his back.

Hank fights along with Nick against bad Wesen and goes on sometimes really dangerous Wesen related missions. And he is not afraid to go and face a Wesen and fight against even though he doesn’t have powers.

And he supports Nick with his relationships and if there is drama. Nick told him first about Juliet when she became a Hexenbiest.