Fiona is… she’s… sigh why is Fi so wishy washy in where her moral line lays? Am I the only one that notices this? Like one minute it’s “should we shoot them?” Like in the intro scenes and then the next it’s oh woe is me solo tear drops “I had to help on a job doing lookout, I found out it was a kidnapping job (sad long lost puppy look on face) the person didn’t do me any wrong tho. So I hate the guy that I had to help.” Like what tf.

Like I always looked at it as Sam was the moral white/good and she was more of the moral grey/bad. On some angels on your shoulder type shit Sam bring the angel and Fi the lil devil, kuz Sam’s always govt. no mike don’t shoot person, I can’t be around if we’re talking about steal govt tech, “mike you should have got me before you shot him! You didn’t bc You knew I’d have a problem with it!” And Fi she’s always let’s shoot them, we came out with the intention of “ending this”, we should give him(client taken reluctantly and causing extreme issues) over to them(guy with guns trying to kill client). “Should we shoot them?”(fbi agents).

So why does her moral code constantly waiver, it’s like it’s never a consistent “line”? It get frustrating when she always yells at Michael or gets on his ass bitching and moaning at him about how he shouldn’t have done this or that or how risky this or that is when Fi herself ALWAYS wants to storm everything guns blazing and kill everyone she doesn’t like. Like what? You can bitch at Michael for letting sam or Jesse do something dangerous for a client OR CIA but when you wanna charge into somewhere guns blazing with the risk of Mike getting shot that’s not a issue and everyone should let you go for it? What? No. Fuck that. Fi’s character is to all over the place, wishy washy, and hypocritical.

Some of the series' best episodes are in season 3, but the overarching plot of that season is abysmal and nonsensical.

Why does Michael act so aghast that Strickler wants him to lie about working with a Somali warlord in an attempt to clear his burn notice? In the pilot episode, we see that Michael was in the business of doing deals with unsavory individuals at the behest of the US government, but he's suddenly so offended by the suggestion?

Why was Strickler so interested in getting Michael's burn notice cleared? How would that have helped Strickler?

Why was Diego so freaked out that Michael was working with Strickler, especially since he called Strickler's phone to speak with Michael?

Why did Gilroy kill Diego? He tells Michael that Diego was looking into Strickler's business and that Gilroy was Strickler's business, but I don't get that.

Hey mods - can we get a profile photo and banner for this sub? Plenty of cool Burn Notice photos out there and I’m shocked we don’t have any yet.

I’m thinking one of the iconic Michael and Fiona shots for the profile and a shot of the Miami skyline for the banner.

Just watching through the series again and got into season 4.

I’d forgotten what a well written character Jesse is.

It was really clever how they bring him into the story. And he’s not just another sidekick, he does his own thing sometimes.

Thanks.

would you want it to be more sam and jesse focus with maybe a small part with mikey and fi, more of a side adventure in the vain of a two part ep from s1 - 4

or

would you want more of a "OH CRAP they found mikey and fi and kidnapped Charlie, guess they have to get the band back together for one more big mission" like s5 - 7

doesn't have to be like i said, just would love to know what you guys would want from it.

In episode 2 of season 3, Madeline says that loving Michael is like trench warfare? What does that mean? I could never figure it out.

And, when Fiona gifts him a bayonet and says that "I thought you should arm yourself," does that mean that she is going to fight for his love and won't back down?

Mine is Trey — who is yours?

from the show in 2000, called The Beat...

https://youtu.be/XQFt7SJEjqU?feature=shared this was the only video I could find but I can barely see Jeffrey Donovan here😅

It had to end at 5 seasons.

I'm giving it the first proper watch ever (watched it growing up but never finished it all the way through) and I'm half way through season 6 and it just hit me:

I don't care anymore. It's absolutely dragged on way too long and I'm scraping my feet trying to finish it. I've heard the ending is ambiguous, is it really worth pushing through to see how it ends? I'm dreading having to watch it because It's gotten so goddam monotonous, and it's sad because it's so good.

I'm half way through season 1 and I'm struggling to really engage as I find the main character is not very likeable. Please tell me the character develops more depth and emotions in later seasons?

Saddest episode?
Saddest episode.

Just noticed this on episode 5 of Season 4...what do you think it is😂😂😂

Hey fellow Spies, I really could use some intel on this.

I am searching for an episode and can't find it.

In this episode, Sam acts as a corrupt cop and violently interrogates Michael, who plays a Junkie. They do so to trick a baddie into giving them information.

Does anyone know, what I'm talking about?

Why was Fiona upset with Michael? I've watched this episode several times and still can't figure it out.

The client is upset about her son being taken (before we find out that she's not who she says she is), she cries into Michael's shoulder, and he comforts her. For some (annoying) reason, Fiona finds this offensive and she storms off. She tells Michael that he's acting out of character and that she's entitled to an attitude.

Is it just pure jealousy on Fiona's part? Are Michael and Fiona in a relationship at this point that she is entitled to feel that he is crossing a boundary with this other woman? (I didn't think they were at this point, but I may be wrong.)

Or is Fiona just thinking that he's emotionally involved to the point of distraction? Which I don't get. Michael always feels empathy for the clients and gets involved emotionally. This is not the first time, so why is Fiona acting like Michael is being TOTALLY different?

Ugh.

I’m watching Season 3 Episode 10, the one where he joins the insurance scam crew, and pretends he’s from North Carolina. He’s got a decent southern accent, and he talks like he’s packing his lip, but my god his spits are terrible. He doesn’t spit like a man who chews/dips regularly. As someone from the South, whose dad had a very nasty habit, his spitting would be a dead giveaway. (Obviously this post is tongue in cheek)

I read all these posts about ranking the top villains of the show and of all the posts I’ve read none of them have ever mentioned Natalie the thief. I think she is the second best female villain of the show only behind Sonya.

Here what happens:

In this version nearly everyone in the Miami Underworld has heard of Michael Westen. Half of them wants him dead, and the other half want to hire him.

As a result, things in the first episode things play out differently. When Michael meets with Falcone a second time, Falcone has figured out who Michael really is and wants answers on who hired him. Thanks to his friends Michael escapes but now his cover is blown. Sam decides to go undercover as Chuck Finley to get Cortez to hire to go after Michael. It works and Team Westen manages to capture Cortez only for Harlan to kill him during the extraction. Before they can figure out what is going on Harlan escapes during the confusion. When they regroup at Maddie's house Harlan gives them a call and reveals that he had set them up in order to take out Cortez on behalf of his partner and that Marta was really a con artist he hired to shed some fake tears to make it convincing. When Michael tries to convince to turn himself in, Harlan gives him, Sam, and Fi a Reason you suck Speech! calling them all self-righteous hypocrites for trying to "pretend to be heroes" in spite of their own sordid pasts as killers. The episode ends on a darker note as Michael contemplates his next move from here.

In the second episode onwards, instead of Detective Paxson going after Michael, an ambitious DA (Let's call him Adler for now) decides to form a task force to take him down. After Michael robs the storage container with incriminating evidence against him Adler approaches him as he's going to his Mom's house for his Birthday party. Michael says he doesn't have time, but then Adler quits playing around and says in a firm voice to make time. They go up to the loft to talk and Adler says that he knows that Michael is responsible for all of the destruction and mayhem that's been going on in Miami lately and he offers him a deal where Michael admits that he acted alone and takes full responsibility for everything that's happened. When Michael finishes reading the crimes he is going to be charged with he says "That is interesting. I hope your proof is able to back all of this up. You do have proof right? Otherwise you wouldn't be here". Adler says, "Not yet but I know how guys like you work. You think that you are all so special. That you live in some kind of fantasy where the rules don't apply to you. That you can do whatever you want. That your actions don't have consequences. Well I got news for you. This isn't a fantasy, this is the real world. And at the end of the day your no better than all the other dirtbags I've sent to lockup. Sooner or later you'll slip up and when I do I'll be there to show the rest of the world what you're really are. Now the real question you should be asking is how many people are you willing to take down with you?

As Adler heads to the door he says "So you see Mr. Westen you can either wait for me to come after you and your friends and your family, or you can save us the time by signing on the little dotted line and take all the blame. The choice is yours."

In the next episode Adler and the task force, crash in on Sam and Fi just as they are about to storm Brennen's place to arrest the latter for reckless driving. Fortunately, Fi was able to pass along the scanner to Barry, so they don't find that on her but now that information is useless because they will be looking in on the restaurant she was at. In the end, though Michael is still able to save Nate. He manages to swing bail for Fi and Sam, but only Sam comes out. When Michael asks where Fi is, Sam says that Adler is taking her in for interrogation. When Fi says that she's not going to talk about Michael, Adler says that's fine because he wants to talk about her. He's been looking into her and he has discovered her past affiliation with the IRA. Fi says that she left them due to "political differences". When Adler asks Fi to elaborate she says that doesn't approve of killing civilians and Adler says "No you just approve of bombing and shooting those who don't agree with your worldview." And Fi says "We were fighting for our freedom and dignity, I wouldn't expect you to understand." And Adler responds "Well I'm no great intellect but the leap between agitating for your cause and killin people who don't like your cause, is a leap too far." Fi says "Are you going to arrest me then?" And he says "Oh believe me, if it were up to me right now I would see you in rot in a cell or strapped in the chair. But I already have my hands full with your boyfriend. So... your his problem now." Adler opens the door revealing a man called Arthur Miller, an MI5 agent who has been after Fi for years. Miller says "Ms. Gleanne it's been a long time." When Fi gets out she goes up to Sam and Michael and tells them that we have a big problem.