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Hello ENTJ, I need advice on the typing of a 60 year old man. Thanks in advance !

His main qualities: very efficient, takes action easily and quickly to resolve a problem, very great work capacity, learns with age to relax, but overall great physical nervousness, is known for his spectacular excesses of anger, tendency to be authoritarian, but often says that he does not like giving orders (would like others to do for themselves "what needs to be done"), could be a good leader but lacks empathy especially in his way of tell others things. Is a very intense person. Not a very good listener. Draw conclusions very quickly. Can sometimes become emotional and withdraws, at times. Like a fragile young child. Which is in stark contrast to the usual character.

Has learned to take care of his health after serious problems, but tends not to know the limits of his body, regularly complains of various recurring pains (as if he could not determine for himself what caused these injuries). Regularly loses his things.

Dark and pessimistic vision of human nature. Can be very stubborn, can sometimes change his mind if the argument in front is solid. Really solid. Can talk about what he doesn't know. Great general knowledge, knows things without ever having studied them (grrrr)

Can get offended easily and take things personally.

Very artistic, music, cinema, writing. This is where his sensitivity shows. Non-conformist. But can be attached to certain traditions (culinary for example). Says you shouldn't get attached and dwell on the past.

Has a rather essentialist vision of men and women.

Is very good at investing and managing money. Is much more introverted as he gets older. Calmer and less explosive. Even if from time to time, he has compulsive attacks of unnecessary purchases or will shout loudly to release anger and frustration. He handles it better than before.

Is sometimes stuck in a tunnel of thoughts with a paranoid tendency (so to speak/it is not pathological). May have black or white thinking on many subjects.

He practices a somewhat technical sport, he films his body movement, then analyzes it for hours on the computer to be able to improve and put exercises in place. It’s quite obsessive but the results are there. He is overall good at whatever he chooses to do.

Which profile does this description make you think of? For your information, I am INTP. ✌️

And I’m infj girl , can you give tips and what do you like and unlike about us ….

What are some things other dissimilar types think of ENTJs? All of us tend to unrealistically project and since ENTJs aren't really people of many words, more action-based, we project, and obviously eventually end up being proven wrong, and end up kiiiinda disheartened. I may want something in a certain way, but they're probably already providing that, just in their own way. Straightforward question: Assume you're always misunderstood. And it bothers you. What would you like dissimilar types, types who usually do these misunderstandings, to know so that you aren't misunderstood anymore? Being misunderstood is one of the worst feelings out there.

I can't get enough of your energy. Please don't ever change.

Sincerely, Intp

I find I can never just do a class in something, I have to have a project. I could never commit to like an arts and crafts course, it doesn't hit my brain the same way, instead I need to find elabourate reasons to learn things and do things for that sweet sweet success high.

like I could never take a beginners sewing course, but I could self teach myself to make crap kimonos, capes and overalls out of bedsheets.

do you guys have that impulse?

I am intj who feel like that I can't at all connect with people In any emotional way my feeling is just respect and being humble but no matter how I get close to people I can't connect with them in emotional way I feel like that i am just a weapon or a tool that can only achive things that can help people from a space between me and them

So, I’m an INTJ, and my mom is an ENTJ, and she’s very assertive overall (so assertive that my dad tends to agree with her perspectives and choices, even when they might not align with his own views or preferences.) and very sensitive to disorder and any sign of slacking, she's hard working also, like she won't let a single task to another day.

But, personally for me, being at home often feels like I’m in an office or some kind of competition. She wants my siblings and me to excel at everything (which we do academically), but at the same time, she wants us to be athletic, well-read, knowledgeable, communicative, disciplined, organized, well dressed ... She even bought a karaoke system kinda thing (which I don't have a clue of what it is) for us to get better at singing, even though most of us are focused on fields like physics or math or computers in general and have nothing to do with singing. And that’s not the end of it; she can’t emphasize enough the IMPORTANCE of a social life and FRIENDSHIPS, (which is a catastrophy for me as an INTJ—and for my INTP siblings, too.)

So, I want to ask if this is common among you guys or if it’s specific to my mom. I actually agree with most of what she says because I like her overall idea. However, the level of seriousness and sensitivity to any slack or disorganization feels a bit extreme. What do you guys think?

My imagination is very blurry, and it mostly words like a story ,for example describing a place that doesn't even exist and colors as words like the place is white, but how does it look like?I don't know what it looks like, but I know what it looks like. It's funny

Today I did some part of the project alone, and I did have troubles with it and figure out a way to fix it and get it done, but then it wasn't the right way, and one of them asked, Why didn't you ask for our help?.......And thinking about it now, it was just a natural response to the problem=solve it on my own. I'm truly not very used to ask for help; I could've set there for weeks to solve it on my own!!!!! And now that I see people here online asking strangers for help and posting simple texts, it makes me wonder why I'm such a perfectionist; it's actually concerning at this point .....why I'm like that?It makes me feel sympathetic for myself!!

I have read that your personality type can change if you are still young, so can I change mine to ENTJ.

both are NTs with the difference between I-E and P-J, so what can I do to start thinking and behaving more like a ENTJ.

Are there any specific habits that you follow that have shaped how you view the world and how you make decisions.

I have a friend, entj.. we are so alike it was, a little scary. We've had the same experiences. He was basically me but. Add saturation.

Anyway, he had a breakup that ended with no explanation. Which kind of put a dent in our friendship. He doesn't trust women anymore. & is still constantly thinking 'what happened'. We have a mutual male, enfj connection, they trauma bonded, spend every moment together, & anything he questions or wonders about the friend group, he goes through that person. it kind of seems like he's clinging to life to this person .. we are Exactly the same person .. but all logic seems to go out the window if this enfj says something about me..

it's like, the enfj isin his brain right now .. & no past experiences or similarities matter if he says something negative.. then spend long periods avoiding me.. but if we do have time to socialize .. it goes right back. until the other person says something else again.. I know I might be generalizing mbti. But What Is Going On Here ? What would a possibly unhealthy entj be thinking in this scenario.. why wouldn't they talk to me to confirm what the other person said, or get the other side .. I'm just very confused.. & never found someone so like me than this person . & wouldn't want to lose the friendship, but I can't change them. & so be it if that is the case..

I'm just at a loss .. & have no idea what to do

Edit : clarify. the breakup was with another woman. We're just friends .

Edit: the periods of not talking are usually if there's an argument I have with the enfj.. if I find out the two meet within a day or so after. I can expect avoidance. enfj is very reactive. & generally doesn't like me.. especially if he's drinking..which is themajority of the time.

I do want to correct, sometimes people say bullshit and I keep myself silent as I would feel like a bullet train on their tiny tremoling egos and I really prioritise peace more than anything in my home/work environments.

BUT THESE PRICKS THAT GIVE AWAY RANDOM ADVICES, RUDE ATTITUDES AND UNWANTED JUDGMENTS ABOUT WHAT I DO HOW I LIVE MY LIFE AND HOW I SHOULD HAVE MANAGED MY TIME BETTER IS REALLY TEASING MY PATIENCE.

He’s an ENFJ probably enneagram 5 or 1. He’s a fucking asshole.

He goes around the house known as the man that fixes anything, he says shit and comment your life when you clearly didn’t ask for it and thinks everybody needs his fucking feedbacks on how we cook, water our plants, paint our rooms etc.

This + a truly arrogant way of saying things with a smile on his face, giggling and shit.

I do hate people that correct and intrude themselves in others affairs as a personality trait. Just to feel better, to confirm themselves they’re knowledgeable, they have everything under control, they have always the answer if their fucking pocket.

They told me it’s an ENTJ thing rather than an ENFJ enneagram 1/5 thing but can I say this? I am an ENTJ and following the stereotype I should be the one being an arrogant prick that corrects people when they don’t expect it just for the sake of efficiency and “helping” others dealing with their problems.

BUT can I say this? Then I am the only ENTJ that minds his own businesses and thinks on his own, doesn’t judge anyone and anything to keep things smooth, preserve energy in order to focus on the things that really matter.

I hate people judging others and spreading their fucking thoughts when unwarranted. I find it disgusting and so unnecessary, egocentric, narcissistic and disrespectful.

I hope I can find more ENTJs like me here.

Looking for a buddy to motivate me. Te is my inferior. I suspect if I can go to Te quickly before my lead Fi hijacks me, I can hack my ego! So I'm here. Asking for your help, Te Doms. Open to DMs.

I used to think that I am 1w2. As I read more, seems like I am 5w6. Also it seems impossible.

I want to hear your opinions.

Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you're all having a wonderful day. As the title suggests, I’ll be going over what I believe is the ideal way to look at MBTI. Now this is all my theoretical opinion, so take it as you will. I would also like to note that some of the concepts discussed below are for a YouTuber named Michael Pierce. The information I have used for him will be cited from him. I highly recommend his videos for MBTI-related things.

• I believe the standard procedure to be as follows: Take the test, see what you get (I have found this to be extremely unreliable alone), study and assess the functions, as well as its cognitive behaviors, then see what you most resonate with according to that function’s position. Be as honest as you can, and even ask other people what they think regarding yourself to help filter any self-bias.

• The flaws with this are: Number one, the tests are very prone to not only conscious self-bias but unconscious self-bias. Its very difficult to reach a peak level of self-awareness where your completely honest with yourself, more than you think. Even at that level, you’re still not even immune to it. On top of that, the majority of people misunderstand the contexts of what the question is even asking and overthink it, consistently finding exceptions to their answers. Number two, almost everybody in your life perceives you in a different way. This is due to a multitude of factors, including the way you reveal yourself depending on the person in front of you, the way that person understands your actions/intentions, how much that person even likes you to begin with, and the social setting/environment that influences you to act a certain way.

• The Clusterfuck: MBTI is COGNITIVE, not BEHAVIORAL. Yes there are behavioral patterns to specific types, but what defines your MBTI is more so the REASONING to those behaviors. The only person that can truly diagnose those reasonings and behaviors is you. Now whats the issue with this? That even the way you perceive yourself and perceive your own reasonings can be flawed, especially with low self-awareness. And everybody really has no choice but to accept your subjective interpretations as the truth, because at the end of the day nobody knows you and understands you as much as YOU. This concept, as a matter of fact, is why psychology/psychiatry can never really be able to exit out of the subjective theoretical realm. Michael Pierce exemplifies this beautifully. If I sit down with a psychiatrist in order to diagnose myself. The psychiatrist must trust the fact that not only am I telling the truth, but that I am also communicating and coming from the perspective we are BOTH sharing. If a Psychiatrist diagnoses me with depression, but I report feeling 0 feelings of depression. Am I really depressed? Michael Pierce then again compares with something more objective; take a broken hand, for example. Even if I do not FEEL like my hand is broken, the x-ray will still show that it is broken, and everyone else can see that it is broken. Which makes it objectively reasonable to assume it truly is broken.

• What I believe to be the best solution: The best solution, as superfical as it sounds, is a bit of a "trial & error" with the types. Pick a type that you feel appeals to you, and stick with it. Now, I already sense the incoming wave of INTJ mistypes skyrocketing. I'll quote Michael Pierce directly for this one. He says, "Pick a type and stick with it, UNTIL it becomes practically impossible to reconcile it with your life." So what does this mean? It means to scale the success, results, and satisfaction that this newly found type brings you. Let's say, for example, Lord, and behold, I decide that I am finally an INTJ. Now that I have incorporated that with my identity, I assess how this newfound identity will impact my life. If you find yourself miserable with spending time by yourself and that almost every time you are by yourself you crave nothing more than to be around people, perhaps this identity will not generate the success, results, and satisfaction you are looking for in your life. And you WILL feel this, I hope at least. If I decide perhaps I am an INFJ but continuously feel unable to empathize and understand most people, feeling myself itch towards a "my way or the highway" mentality, then perhaps INFJ isn't quite it for me. If I feel as though I may be an ESFP but again feel like overcomplicating conversations and contemplating future possibilities is instinctual to me, perhaps I may not be an ESFP. I am not sure if you guys are familiar with fighting styles. But a lot of fighters say that “you do not choose the style; the style chooses you.” What they mean is, you do choose the style, but it is inevitably whichever style makes you win the most fights; that is the style meant for you.

• Glorifying the types & mistyping is idiotic: I would like to add something. You all seem to glorify the Ni/intuitive types and want to be them so bad. You guys don't seem to understand that types like INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ, and ENTP tend to live pretty miserable lives for the most part. You think INTJs and ENTJs are commonly labeled as "villianous" because they were happy with their lives, lol? The average INTJ, if you have encountered one, is probably that one kid you and your classmates all labeled as the "likely schoolshooter" that sits alone at lunch. While the typical ESFP is that one child who is well-liked by everyone and thrives socially. Theres a reason most celebrities are ESFPs/ESFJs. So while your sitting on your PC in the dark, rotting away, priding yourself on being an INTJ, and filling your mind with delusions of how smart you are. The "disgusting" sensor feelers are out exploring the world and living their lives to the fullest. So you tell me, who’s really doing well in their life? On the other hand, these same people will try to gatekeep their type in order to better retain that warm fuzzy feeling of being special. Because only THEY were meant to be such unique individuals. To me, all of this is such a waste. It gets nobody anywhere, and is why the MBTI community as a whole gets such a bad rep. At the end of the day, you can choose and label yourself with whatever type you want to be. Even try your best to act like that type. And nobody can stop you. Shit, I mean, if it works, it works. But if it doesn't, your no better than some broke man pretending he's rich. It not only gets you nowhere but makes you go backwards.

• Pigeon-Holing Yourself: Now that we’ve made it here. You developed your awareness, chose your type, and it generated the best results for you. The last trap I want you to avoid is to take the salt and run with it—in other words, pigeon-holing yourself. Do not be extreme with anything in your life. MBTI is a TOOL not a SOLUTION. Do not be one of those types of people that are like, “Ever since I discovered I was a thinker, how pointless emotions are because they won’t serve me well.” And the crazy part is, before you even discovered your type, you probably didn’t even have that big of an issue with your emotions to begin with. Another thing I see is people wanting advice on their day-to-day problems and setting boundaries on that issue based off of MBTI. Again, pigeon-holing yourself. Any type can theoretically be anyway. Its all a balancing act of strengths and weaknesses when it comes down to what defines a type.

• The Conclusion: At the end of the day, the whole reason that Carl Jung introduced the cognitive functions was to help us. It wasn’t to satisfy our egos or superiority complexes. It wasn’t to argue about it on Reddit. Nor was it meant for you to delude yourself and revolve your entire life around it. It was simply meant for us to help discover our sense of identity and allow us to better excel in our lives. I believe the human mind to be very malleable and adaptable. It truly is much too complex to simplify with four letters. With enough willpower, you can truly be whatever you want. And that is the beauty of life. All of you are capable of reaching levels of greatness. Show the Universe how much you want it and how hard you will work for it, and the Universe will reward you. You only live once, and you are the one that dictates your life. If what you take for MBTI improves your life, then that is all that matters.

First of all, pardon for my English, not my tongue language and i know you entjs are grammar Nazis (and i could have asked chatgpt to correct it and then post, but maybe next time).

I, enfp want entjs to do me a favor and point out lack of "Ti" (introverted thinking)in me, through comment section, as possible. It's blind spot for enfps, so i don't know much of it i lack. I know that it takes high "Te" to notice lack of ti in others, so here u go. I, as Ne dom notice Ne blind spot in isfps and it's infuriating - for example, if isfps were to made a law, they wouldn't charge for attampted murder, because murder didn't happen as a fact. They only react to what happened, factually and that's where it ends. So i wander if im that level of stupid in my ti area.

You can also provide examples from your experience with other enfps, and I'll see if i can relate to it.

I feel so drained lately by two people close to me, and INTP and an INFP. I love them both but I'm partner with both in different businesses and it's so hard to meet goals because they don't undertand how a plan is connected by little dots that many times kills two birds in one shot. When I explain the plan they act as if I'm invading their mind and ears by so much weaved information and plan. I'm so drained that now I do all alone because they feel like I'm been bossy or selfish about the goal and it's in the benefit of all. It feels like they both want to be ahead of the game and that I'm secretely competing against them instead of teaming up. And the craziest part is that both people are in a completely different business with me.

They both have said my idea is not good or doesn't work or insinuated that their idea or way to do things is the way to go, and now I'm having self doubt.

I wonder does ENTJ here is an insurance agent? I hate to promote stuffs for other people's product. but I always got an offer to be a insurance agent not by the new recruits but by the insurance principal they said i have so much potential. Does anyone experience that too?

I'm an INFJ, my boyfriend is an ENTJ. He seems to be acting up. Yes we're young, I understand. But he faced troubles for his own issues, then when he vented to me, I went all logical on him cuz that's how I do it for myself, off the feelings, on the logic. Kind of like a switch yeah. Works for me. And he's usually one with really good right-wrong sense but then the emotions kick in and it all turns off and after all this while together I'm slightly scared to realise I won't be able to depend on him the way I wanted to, it'll have to be the other way round. And that's..good...I love ppl depending on me, but yeah no that's not the point. How DOES an ENTJ like to be comforted when they're hurt/frustrated/angry? Clearly logic doesn't work. How else? (I could ask him, but I've got work.)

I’m an ENTJ, but I’m a huge people pleaser due to being raised by one (ENFJ). Our stereotype says that we don’t handle sh!t from people but I do. I usually brown nose my way through and that let’s them step on my head. I actually hate it but I don’t know how to put them in their places respectfully. What do I do?

As ENTJs, we are highly analytical and a majority of the decisions that we make are going to be informed and influenced by hard data.

I am not a very political person, nor am I vocal about my voting preferences, but I notice that people will get highly aggressive if they find that you are voting for whatever opposite candidate that they support. I find that their reasoning is very emotionally driven, and no amount of data is going to change their stance. Btw, I don't spend an ounce of energy trying to sway anyone's vote.

When they ask me why I chose a specific candidate and I talk about the hours of in depth research I've done, pros and cons of specific policy, and long term impact. Yet, it has always been met with their weaponized anger where they bring up 7 different ideologies that I "should" follow to be considered a "decent" human being.

Yes, the way I interpret the data is going to be subjective based on my upbringing and core values instilled by my parents, but WTH.... Why can't people just respect my decision rather than demonize me. Has anyone else experienced this?

(In general) …or not Describe your current life situation briefly, whether you’re in a good spot or a bad spot. I am curious!

I was just curious to see how was your experience in your peak teenage years. Did you study? Was school a big part of your future plans? What did you think about the education system? Did you plan going to university? Did you have a part-time job?

Okay so I tend to talk in a straight forward way, directly, and without any complications. (But not blunt) so I was just going down the stairs and there were a group of people in front of me. So they were standing stopping everyone from moving and just causing traffic, so I obviously told them “can you please move?” And after that they decided to eye ball me like I did something to them. Like what do they expect me to do? And one more thing! Today a guy was making fun of some work I had done for an assignment. So it was engineering related and he decided to tell me it looks like a weird hat go around laughing at it and him (wanting to be an engineer) couldn’t do something like it. So after he finished all his absurd jokes about my assignment, I decided to say “so, did you benefit from any of the jokes you just made mr engineer?” And he replied with “yes they were hella funny. Plus yours looks awful” so I replied with “well if you can’t do one mr engineer, then please keep your opinion to yourself because it doesn’t benefit anyone” so he could super sad about that even tho he made awful jokes which I will not be mentioning due to the guidelines.

Is following rules, laws, obligations, etc. and getting frustrated when others do not common of ENTJs? This has been a big part of my personality and I don’t know if it’s ENTJ or having spent a career as a lawyer. I know it’s common for ENTJs to go into law, but I can’t compartmentalize this.

Just curious. Like, I know mbti isn't very accurate, it doesn't have to be, i don't take it 100% seriously and i definitely do not trust it blindly (you shouldn't either).

But I still do find that it's just a decent guideline for finding the type of friend you want etc. obviously doesn't paint the full picture as mentioned earlier, but it's decently good enough of a bit helpful, isn't it?

I mean, think of it. Without MBTI it's just random and all-luck, but with MBTI as a guideline, it kind of helps.

I know all ENTJ women are VERY different people. But I still want to ask this... because I'm like super curious.

Do ENTJ women tend to be more of the dominant types? How many of them are? To what degree?

Or is this whole thing just a stereotype?

I'm just really curious. Wish I got an answer.

I have to stop overthinking now and press that "Post" button...

After making my millionth tiny mistake in math (3x3 = 6) which through my whole differential calc paper off because of the tiny mistake, I realised that us entjs are actually rpone to making small mistakes when doing work like maths, because Si is in our blindspot, and if you're like me, I like to just get shit done due to my Se, but I also tend to neglect the small details because of my blindspot Si, which leads to me whole history of making silly little mistakes in math my whole life. Super annoying actually.

I've been an INTJ since the first time I took a MBTI test. After a couple years of trauma therapy and healing, I'm now an ENTJ.

not being a stereotypical ENTJ is so annoying because people irl would ask me about my MBTI and when i tell them it they go "but you don't seem like it at all!" yeah bc stereotypes are stupid. i can't be a good leader if i don't learn how to mask and handle people better. do you know how many times i want to yell at somebody's face and call them stupid but didn't do it??? i just have the self control not to 😭

also because i'm super feminine. why do people assume that all ENTJs are fans of office fashion or whatever?? we're regular humans, not CEOs straight out of the womb.

I am aware ENTJ is like second rarest personality type. because of its rarity does it affect how other personality looks at ENTJ? Like other personality sometimes feel uncomfortable with ENTJ when it comes to conflict or disagreement.

also talking about workplace. Does interviewer who is not an ENTJ feels intimidated when interviewing an ENTJ?