I started developing a crush on my classmate that is an INTP. He sometimes waits for me after class but never strikes a conversation when I’m with my friend. But he follows like an inch behind me when I’m done class and he chats with me once my friend is gone. He never messages me (we follow each other on instagram) and he never makes plans with me either. I asked him out to watch a movie last week and he said “maybe some other time.” But during class we made eye contact and after class he followed me again but he didnt join my friend and I. Eventually his friend joined him and we all walked towards the parking lot. My friend and i stopped at a store and when i was at the parking lot, he was still there with his friend. When i got in my car is when he split with his friend. Also there has been times i feel he was at the library knowing that I would be there (i could just be delusional but based on my memory he could have just gone home). Can someone explain to me what is going on? Like is he into me? Just like me as a classmate? Im so lost🥲

To me, friendship isn’t about chatting every day. Real friendship is when, no matter how often you talk, it’s always filled with love, sincerity, and honesty.

I think the field where I have the strongest intuition is logic, where I have some intuitive sense of whether arguments make sense. Ive always liked argumentation, but since it’s hard to find good debates, I started doing LSAT logic drills for fun, which is where I started realizing/developing this intuition.

I’d say it really only helps me with knowing where in an argument to look for weakness bc I don’t especially trust things I haven’t thought through

The first time I meet anyone I act very nice even though I don't participate that much in conversation and after spending some time with these strangers I can easily identify if I want to be my true self with these people or just keep pretending to be a innocent nice guy.

I hate when I have to pretend to maintain harmony in a group or family, the only people I can be myself with are my siblings but even with them I subconsciously act like ENTPs and they sometimes find me annoying or funny, I have never been my real boring and quiet self with anyone.

I act like I don't care if someone or even my few close classmates (who think they are my friends just because I treat them nicely) makes fun of me but deep inside I am extremely resentful of these people.

I also have this weird habit to act differently from other people on purpose because it makes me feel special and superior, to give you an example - I used to play this mobile game which was popular among people of my age but when I learned that my fake friends also play this game and asked me if I also play it, I said no and deleted the game once I got home.

You may ask what I achieved by doing this, nothing at all but just a feeling that I am not longer a idiot like those people because I don't play this game anymore.

Sometimes I suspect I am a INFP because of my habits but then I just do research and land on INTP again.

I also tried to find a way to change my MBTI to INTJ or INFJ because they basically represent perfectionism but that's also not true.

Now, I am just tired of pretending to be nice (INTJ/INFJ) or pretending to be cool (ENTP) and just want to be myself (INTP) without self hatred.

Has anyone else gone through the same cycle, if yes then can you give some actually implementable tips on how to stop this behaviour.

Edit: just want to point out the responses here kind of go along the lines of how people are difficult to get to know. Idk if it’s my asd or what, but I’m reaching out for friends and I’m getting treated rudely. It sucks for my gentle INFJ soul.

Hi all,

I know there’s an INFJ penpals group for people looking for INFJ penpals. I don’t see one for INTP sorry if this isn’t the right place.

I am looking to chat with INTPs. I have recently met a lot of of INFJs online and I thought that would make me feel more understood. And while it did, I think there’s too much sameness in my friendships.

Im 35/F like reading, hiking, casually riding my bike. I am finishing my MBA, I live in the US, I like anime, cosplay, fantasy, cozy gaming etc.

Feel free to message me if you’re around my age. 27-36 ish. I think we’d have more in common. And relate better. I’d appreciate it if you only reach out if you have space in your life to dedicate to a new friendship! I’ve been ghosted a lot 🥺, or people have been difficult to get to know.

Since I’m a millennial I believe in most things typical millennials do. (Meaning left leaning).

I just found out the love of my life has kids (probably married, too). I'm heartbroken.

There's this lady I see pretty regularly at my hangout spot (a park). She's so beautiful, tall, and probably a few years older than me. Gosh, did I mention She's fucking beautiful?

I always see her alone, or conversing with one of the regulars. Whenever she looks towards me, I always pretend to not see her (a tactic I use as an awkward introvert). I'm sure she's just a friendly person, and would probably not mind some small talk. But see, I'm super awkward, self absorbed, and terrified of other people.

Anyway, after weeks of unsuccessfully trying to steal a glance or 2 without her noticing, I saw her dragging 3 kids alongside her today, with car keys on the other hand.

My heartbreak is immeasurable. The reality that she's much much older is finally sinking in (I'm 21). I'm gonna sing myself to sleep now. This day is full of sadness.

We had plans. Plans I had concocted in my head. We were going to build a life together. Time for my revenge arc.

Edit: Guys, it was meant to be a joke. I actually plan on saying Hi the next time I see her. Fellow regular park goer and whatnot.

I found myself wondering what the heck happened to us all. We had a group of maybe 20ish that used to jump on voice/video for a while there and just talk.

It's been a while now, maybe 7 or 8 years, maybe longer. I'm too lazy to go through my own post history and look.

If any of you see this post, stop in and say hi! I'd love to know where some of us ended up after all this time.

Hi, I need two things: 1) please let me know if my conclusions are fair or illogical 2) your guess on what's going on in INTP's head.

Introducing us: INTP male and I (INFP) are coworkers in a corporate office. We work well together (to the point where everyone knows we'll always work on the same projects) and we have each other's back. We also have the same communication preferences. He's funny and easygoing whereas I'm a straightrod in the office except for when we get into fun debates where he plays devil's advocate and I pretend to take it seriously.

Situation: He has a girlfriend of 4 years and I've developed a crush on him that I've been working hard to hide and dissolve. Even before this crush started, I had the sense he liked me or at least found me attractive, and I figured that he knew that I knew. I reasoned that, as long as neither of us crosses any boundaries, there's no need to address it and we can both pretend like we can't see it.

In the past few months, he's cranked up the dial, resulting in a lot of flirting and gifts of food and closing space between us. I thought he might just be very friendly/comfortable with me, but above all else in the context of things, I prefer to be professional as well as respectful of his relationship, so I have stepped back, been unresponsive on occassion, or just outright told him to chill.

To me, it seems like he keeps testing the limits of what he can do, and, given my crush clouding my rationality, I like that he does. But half of me is very nervous about being brought into a tricky situation so I've been trying to navigate this as best as I can without being assumptive and without losing a good relationship with my coworker and without causing unnecessary chaos at work (hence this post for insight).

He's always lingered with touch, but he crossed a line the other day when he rested his hand on mine in the elevator. I thought it might be an accident but he didn't move. After a beat, I aggressively pulled away and we didn't talk about it. It was a gentle touch, so I wondered about the probability that he didn't even register touching my hand.

I have no qualms about reporting inappropriate behavior to HR, given the fact I've had to do it on multiple occassions - even on an old boss. I don't think I want to bring work into this situation, though. I bring this up with bitterness only because I think it takes an idiot to not realize that touching crosses the boundary line for both relationships and workplaces. If he's an idiot, then he's just very friendly and oblivious and naive and very lucky to be competent at work, and I can ignore this with the understanding that I'm reading too much into it. If he's not an idiot, then he knows what he's doing and I have to address it. But do you think he knows what he's feeling? and what does he expect from this?

Mac and Cheese Thinking Theory

The mbti is a theory which is self described as subjective on an individual level.

Combined with the desire of human beings to create a ranking, which here implies social darwinism and the desire to be better.

We can clearly see that some types are better than others.

Introverted < Extroverted but extroverted can be a big pussy when faced with external threats. However, we are not looking for the types that would be stronger when faced with a downwards reality as we are looking for ambitious types, that would make it best in a successful reality. Because those types are the ones that expand upon that reality and end up bigger and bigger

Sensing < Intuitive While the average sensor may be better at picking up fights, the intuitive is a better story teller, better liar, better deceiver and Makes more Money.

While the sensor steals from your local walmart, the intuitive will steal old lady's purses and scam people on the internet, so we can see which one is better.

Thinking > Feeling. Feelers may be considered "good" as they are very attached to the things they value but ultimately a lack of attachment trives in the modern world.

The less attached you are, the better it is.

If you are not attached to the outcome, you are less likely to be frustrated by it, or to fail by fear. You'll just play your best cards and hope for the best.

You'll not be attached even to your life and personal well being. Which is clearly a benefit as we've all seen feelers make clowns out of themselves in the attempt of fulfilling their personal values.

Judging > Perspective. While the perspective types may become lazy entrepreneurs that make money that way, trying to find the easiest solution to a problem, the hard workers almost always get rewarded by the universe more.

Judgers are getting more fulfillment ultimately, making it a better life strategy.

The choice between judging and perspecting is ultimately yours.

Good luck

Will start whining about even a spec of dirt that I cant see with my eyes.

Note: I like to keep my stuff clean too - I obsessively wash my hands (mostly at work) - dont want to catch something bad again.

Laziness and procrastination will cover all my brilliance.

😂😂 i‘m so confused

Does anyone else identify with this?

The lyric is from King’s Crossing by Elliott Smith.

INTPs, how do you describe your relationship with your boss/manager? What has been your experience with different boss types? Are there certain traits or styles that you appreciate in a manager? Do you prefer a hands-off approach that allows for autonomy, or do you thrive with more structure and guidance?

Do you think your boss sees you as an employee who needs special attention?

I recently almost wasn’t gonna get accepted into a program, and when I asked for the reason the “jury” told me that I was more than qualified, but that he couldn’t take me seriously and he had a hard time thinking whether I would commit (during oral exam). Also, when I meet with people I somehow end up interacting with EVERYONE literally and I bring a sort of a “chaotic” vibe to the place 😅 and everyone get my socials to keep in touch! That’s just an idea about how different ppl see me differently. But m wondering if this all is part of the function that makes intps “childish”! I try to be serious and reserved but that’s simply not who I am most of the time! I would appreciate your insights and your stories as well 😊

Someone earlier asked if INTPs are bad at navigating or following directions.

That’s just my own hypothesis. Your job is to conduct an experiment and come back with results. I personally think it will improve your imagination and spatial awareness/IQ.

FYI: Your lil brain is incapable of imagining n-Dimensions but give it a try. Ex: 4D Tesseract.

Other exercises you can do:

• Play puzzle/maze games
• Take online tests to improve spatial IQ
• Learn/do Linear Algebra matrix analysis/multiplication etc
• Read physics books
• Drive around without Google/Apple maps.

After a long grueling day of work,family,school,etc what do you like to do or where do you go for an hour or more to like " refresh" bonus points if it's not your room. I like to go to Barnes and Noble for an hour or more,headphones,order a coffee and search for a book to browse or buy.

So I randomly met this girl in the library and we started talking about classics and I got kind of excited because most people around me aren’t into them. But the thing is, she talks like super fast which I am not used to and it would take me a while to process whatever she was talking about and then immediately she would ask me something but I would still be processing something she said previously and my mind would just go blank. And my responses ended up being a strong of incoherent sentences that hardly made sense. To conclude, it got quite awkward and by the end my brain was thoroughly exhausted and I was just nodding along to whatever she said. After that we did talk a couple more times but it was awkward and I did read all the books she recommended but she never read any of mine so I am not sure if i should consider her a friend? It was her birthday yesterday and I thought a lot about whether I should wish her but in the end I decided we weren’t close enough and she might think I was being weird (plus I wasn’t even sure if I had the correct date).

apologies, I know you probably hate posts like this, and they belong on typeme, but this one seemed specific to INTPs so I posted it here because I wanted intp feedback (you so clever 🥹). If it really annoys you then feel free to post some hate in the comments. :>

I mean what is NE anyway? Linking ideas together? Don’t we all do that? What’s a concrete example of that?

As for me, I don’t really like researching most stuff as I get bored really easily. I don’t like traditionally ‘nerdy’ stuff for the same reason though I’m good at it if I try. Reading just makes me want to scream. (Does that indicate weak NE? What’s reading for to do with NE anyway?)

I do however love sport (however dislike playing with others because of fear of judgement), gaming, and sensual pleasures of all kinds (shut up). However I think I’m TI Dom because I’m incredibly internally argumentative, anytime anyone says something (including me) my annoying brain automatically evaluates it and tries to spot reasons why they’re wrong. I have an opinion on almost everything, despite not having researched it, and I often think people are too emotional in their arguments.

My FE seems inferior because I isolate myself from people (unless we are out drinking), I am awkward, I don’t give a fuck, but I secretly love validation. On the other hand I’m clumsy and have no common sense apparently. Which is like the staple of the istp I thought.. idk, I care too much about this stuff. Indirect validation I guess. Do you think FE inferior wants validation or rejects that part of the self?

Curious if you have people in your life you consider long term or life long friends? Let’s say 10+ years.

These can be friends who you are actively in touch with, let’s say weekly, or friends you just know you could call up when you wanted/needed to, though you don’t speak often.

alternatively, what's your favourite band/musician? my favourite band is the neighbourhood and my favourite song is Afraid

As the title suggests, I have been having serious doubts about my intellectual capabilities. I grew up being praised for being academically gifted. With increased demands from jobs and more intensive studies, I feel I have no edge - at this point, I am barely keeping up with professional demands.

I am starting to feel like apart from my ability to process large chunks of information, I have no particular intellectual gift, especially when it comes to being inventive or an original thinker.

Like this intp guy doesnt reply quickly but he keeps replying to my story and texting me.Does this mean an intp might like me?

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I’ve been invited to a Halloween party later tn and idk if I wanna go. My friend is the only one I’ll know there and I don’t like big groups of people idk but idk how to act.

Source? What do you mean source? We all know this.

I am terrible at following directions when driving. Toay I arrived 20 minutes late to volunteering, had to have someone help me navigate while I was driving to find volunteer parking, and I had a map with me which didn't help at all.

I'm wondering if it's just a me thing, or if other INTPs have the same struggle.

I want to go for sweetcorn soup.

If i can bring someone along thatd be nice too :D

And then after im done with my sweetcorn soup I want to go home and watch a movie and then kiss :D

I wish magic and powers were real (hoping only I and selected few have it) idk. real vampires, zombies or witches and especially aliens were real. I'll probably just use my powers to be lazy.

edit: thinking this over, there would be so much more to think about in the world if those were real. kinda glad they aren't. I guess I just wanted to have powers to be unique? for the plot!

I daydream a lot. Fake scenarios where I have already succeeded my current and future goals, connecting theories which I learnt and much more.

I think this has gone beyond limit and is affecting me in some way that leads to inaction and being unproductive. I am a 21Y old M college student pursuing finance(just random info about background which may help you to know my background and give personalized advices) but generalize this too because this post may help a lot of people.