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Pacers Odds: +3.5, ML +130, o/u 229.5

TV: FanDuel Sports Network

#Projected Starters Pacers
• PG - Tyrese Haliburton
• SG - Ben Sheppard
• SF - Bennedict Mathurin
• PF - Pascal Siakam
• C - Myles Turner

Knicks
• PG - Jalen Brunson
• SG - Mikal Bridges
• SF - Josh Hart
• PF - OG Anunoby
• C - Karl-Anthony Towns

#Injuries

Pacers • Andrew Nembhard - Questionable (Sore Left Knee)
• T.J. McConnell - Questionable (Illness)
• Aaron Nesmith - Out (Left Ankle Sprain)
• James Wiseman - Out (Torn Left Achilles Tendon)
• Isaiah Jackson - Out (Torn Right Achilles Tendon)

Knicks
• Miles McBride - Questionable (Illness)
• Cameron Payne - Questionable (Strained Left Hamstring)
• Precious Achiuwa - Out (Strained Left Hamstring)
• Mitchell Robinson - Out (Left Ankle Surgery)

Yes, after 9 games we do need to trade our All NBA point guard. We do need to fire a top 5 coach in the league. We do need to blow it up and completely rebuild. What in the world is going on in this sub?

And this is with being Carlisled for two games Mans would be easily a 20 PPG scorer right now

Make T-Hog great again!

Is it an injury - which he says he's fine. Did he get the bag and not put in the work? Is he in his own head?

I hope he's working his ass off like a super max contract depended on it. Probably only the front office or players could reveal that. If he's working, he will get right but this length of a slump is concerning.

With his very poor defense, the distribution and offense needs to click.

We are driving in from Iowa (big ISU/Hali fans). My 10 year old got to do a pre-game court side experience 2 years ago to meet Tyrese (he knows that’s a once in a lifetime experience).

We are planning to go to the 11/27 game - he wants to sit somewhere that he can potentially see/say hi to Tyrese, but I can’t fork out $600/ticket for our family of 4.

Any ideas??

I’m so tired of Al of the doom and gloom posts. We’re fine. It’s like no one read the injury report. Quit whining. Thanks.

Im so tired of this low effort shit in winnable ball games. This team is way too talented to be getting blown out by 20 to the Hornets. I could understand if it happened every once in awhile but this happens almost every time that we play a bad team. Somebody on the team needs to start getting in players faces.

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As others have pointed out, we can't do anything, even simple things like hit layups, box out or hit free throws with any consistency. No one seems to be happy and I don't think it's just because of the record. Sure looks like Rick either can't get through to them or they have tuned him out. With all the blame to go around, and there is plenty, the fish always rots from the head.

TL:DR Walker has now deserved more minutes.

I've had my doubts about him and have been sympathetic to coaching not playing him, but, c'mon. This guy is showing he is everything they hoped when they drafted him and MORE. Only 17 minutes when they are playing rookies and g'leaguers? One of the big knocks for him is turnovers and he's had 2 in the past 4 games. He just needs to see the floor and grow, gain reps, gain confidence. PLAY HIM!

That’s it. That’s the post.

There are a lot ways to assign blame on this loss. Hali shot terribly but so did the whole team outside of Siakam and Benn. We cannot play small ball anymore. We need a C who can rebound because that has never been Myles’ strong suit. No way we can be a competitive team when other teams can get twice as many possessions as us.

People want to get hung up on Hali underperforming but the season is very very long so I rather worry about more pertinent issues

*yes this is an overreaction, but there is like 5% of me thinking it right now.....

Pascal Siakam has been really dam good for us this year. To the point where I'm not sure we deserve him. With the gross amount of money we are paying Haliburton, we can't trade him, so might as well get the young guys rolling and start again.

2 harsh truths about Haliburton

1. He’s mentally out of it and doesn’t play like the same guy he did the past 3 years.

I don’t know if it’s the back issues, playing SG to Nembhard, or fear of getting re-injured. Every shot he takes feels forced and uncomfortable. He barely touches the ball anymore and is always looking to immediately get rid of it as soon as he catches it. He’s checks out of entire stretches of the game for no reason at all, even when the offense is playing awful. No star player does this.

2. He didn’t improve anything in the off-season.

Any sort of promise he made about getting bigger to handle physicality or defense was never delivered upon and he didn’t improve handles, and seemed to revert in shooting and playmaking. Instead, he spent his summer cheering from the bench as players superior to him with a better work ethic represented their country and won a gold medal. Instead, he managed to go to WWE matches and talk shit to Knicks and Magic fans.

There should never be a time when TJ McConnell is a better option than our Star player, but Tyrese has shown no incentive or fire to play better. In fact, his fearfulness to absorb even a little contact on offense and defense makes me less confident in him being a franchise basketball player for this team going forward.

Please roast me in the comments ( or not idc) - pissed and embarrassed Pacers fan

Because clearly these guys didn't play basketball at all there

Title says it all. I love him

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Pacers Odds: -7, ML -270, o/u 235.5

TV: FanDuel Sports Network

#Projected Starters Pacers
• PG - Tyrese Haliburton
• SG - Andrew Nembhard
• SF - Bennedict Mathurin
• PF - Pascal Siakam
• C - Myles Turner

Hornets
• PG - LaMelo Ball
• SG - Brandon Miller
• SF - Josh Green
• PF - Miles Bridges
• C - Taj Gibson

#Injuries

Pacers
• T.J. McConnell - Out (Illness)
• Aaron Nesmith - Out (Left Ankle Sprain)
• James Wiseman - Out (Torn Left Achilles Tendon)
• Isaiah Jackson - Out (Torn Right Achilles Tendon)

Hornets
• DaQuan Jeffries - Out (Right Hand Fracture)
• Nick Richards - Out (Right Rib Fracture)
• Mark Williams - Out (Left Foot Tendon Strain)

That seems fair. We don’t have anyone playing at all star level right now. It’s fine. Let’s just keep having 8 guys playing good.