I think now we are at the stage where Quin has had enough time to really implement his game, regardless of who’s on the roster.

Offense: No problems, with Trae we are usually a walking top 10 offense

Defense: This is where the concerns start to get real. I understand we don’t have the personal, and getting a guy like Dyson Daniels is a step in the right direction.

But it’s been over 2 years since Quin has joined and I’m seeing the same old simple defensive habits again and again. Once a team successfully screens it’s chaos on our end and the opposition either get an open layup or open 3.

We ask why teams are shooting the lights out against us but you can see watching the game, the open looks they get is just awful from us. The scramble on switches is atrocious, and don’t get me started on our fast break defense.

Like today, giving up that many points to the wizards is unacceptable, regardless of who’s injured. They had a series of rookies and guys who had under 82 games experience, and they were slicing their way around our defense for open looks everywhere like they were seasoned vets. If we’re losing to a Jordan Poole backcourt, what are the other teams gonna do to us????

I’m not on the Quin out train or anything but I’m seriously starting to question his defensive ability as a coach, aswell as any of the coaching staff that has responsibility on the defensive end. I understand we aren’t magically gonna turn into a top 10 defensive team but what bothers me is that there has been zero improvement. The bad habits I saw 2 years ago are still occurring today and that makes me scratch my head.

Is it at the point where this core of players are never gonna cut it defensively regardless of the coach? Maybe quins defensive scheme heavily relies on a big anchor (like Gobert) and obviously Clint can’t produce that anymore.

What do you guys think? I’ve just never seen a group of guys give up so many open looks. They’re are better defenders then others but playing team defense and working as a unit can be coached and right now and for the past years as a unit the guys seem lost out there.

23% from 3 40% FG 66% FT (!!!)

It feels like he’s going to miss every time he’s at the line. It’s early, yes, but he’s one of the few dudes healthy right now and this type of slump to start the year after getting paid to be our 2nd star and showing so much potential last year really sucks.

Is this mental? Just small sample size? Can’t explain it but something’s way off with his game right now

Landry, you have to do something with that roster spot. This lack of depth isn’t gonna work.

Because I'm lazy. Anyways here's what it had to say!

"Quin Snyder’s Utah Jazz teams were known for slow starts in several seasons before catching fire in the second half of the year. Here's a look at some notable seasons:

2018-2019 Season

• First Half: The Jazz struggled in the early part of the season, going 18-20 by mid-January. Their offensive and defensive performances were inconsistent, partly due to a demanding early schedule and injuries.
• Turnaround: By mid-season, Snyder made strategic adjustments to emphasize transition defense and spacing on offense. The team surged post-All-Star break, finishing 50-32 and securing a fifth seed in the Western Conference.

2017-2018 Season

• First Half: Injuries to key players like Rudy Gobert contributed to an early-season slump. By late January, the Jazz were 19-28, and the season appeared bleak.
• Turnaround: With Gobert returning and Snyder switching to a defense-first strategy, the Jazz went on an impressive 29-6 run to end the season, closing with a 48-34 record and landing the fifth seed in the playoffs.

2019-2020 Season

• First Half: The Jazz hovered around .500 early on as new players like Mike Conley struggled to adapt, and the team adjusted to Bojan Bogdanović’s role in the offense.
• Turnaround: Snyder leaned into a strong small-ball lineup and defensive schemes that unlocked the team’s potential. Before the COVID-19 hiatus, the Jazz were on a roll, ending up with a 44-28 record and a sixth seed in the Western Conference.

Each of these seasons showcased Snyder’s skill in making mid-season adjustments, often focusing on defense and refining the team’s ball movement and spacing on offense. His ability to find roles for players and leverage team strengths was critical to these turnarounds."

Let's show a little patience this year and let the team gel/get healthy. The season isn't lost and there is no doubt that we looked much better when healthy a week ago.

It’s almost a guarantee a NBA will never win 80 games in a season. But 79? That’s a reasonable amount.

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• This many injuries will force JJ to step it up and will force him to be more of a focal point in our offense. We can just feed him while he gets comfortable in his new role and then sprinkle the other guys back in as they recover
• Same goes to Zacch, he is now playing on a team more similar to one that drafts #1 overall. He'll get the #1 pick treatment now if he wasn't before
• The defense could be worse
• Dyson is merely day to day, I bet he plays on Friday
• Deandre was playing well to start the season and his absence doesn't seem serious, he would help a lot on Wednesday
• Our 2 best players are still healthy and if you have 2 players playing at an all star level in the NBA it can mask a lot of problems in the short term
• This still isn't as bad as us putting our hopes and dreams on Saddiq after Deandre and JJ went down last season, our new depth this season is real
• Better now than 4 months from now
• Some of Quin's best teams start rocky/faced adversity and then ran off big win streaks in January/February

That is all

Not with team? He doesn’t add much and I could imagine better uses for his roster spot.

My son is ready to check in.

I think we need to realise this will never be at full strength

I would love to say let’s just wait until we get healthy but in reality that has never happened and I don’t think ever will. The chances that once Bogi comes back someone else or a couple of guys are already out with an injury is just too high.

And if even worse with our depth. Trae playing 38-40 minutes a game is gonna catch up to him. And unfortunately he has to if we have any chance of winning. If we lose Trae to injury our season is completely cooked.

Keep your expectations low in terms of health, because it’s the same story every year. This roster needs another shakeup in the offseason for sure.

Cody Zeller’s got a ransom on Hawks playoff hopes right now.

Whatever man I don’t deserve happiness

No words. Just sigh

Hi. Looking for 3 tix beside each other for Friday vs Sacramento Kings.

Thanks!

tl;dr, Opponents are getting extremely lucky from 3 against the Hawks, but we also allow a lot of 3s and open themselves up to high-variance swings.

So, after seeing the Hollinger tweet about our defense I decided to do some digging to see what's up. We're currently giving up the second most 3PA/game and our opponents are shooting 42.13% from 3, the best rate in the league. On one hand, 3 of the 4 teams we've played teams like to take a lot of 3s (by 3pt frequency, CHA is 6th, BKN is 7th, WAS is 10th, and OKC is 23rd), so the frequency issues might be explained by that. However, when you look at those teams' splits against the Hawks versus other teams, you start to see the issue (via pbpstats).

If you just look at the games our opponents have played against non-Hawks opponents, they're shooting the worst in the league on middle-of-the-pack volume. However, against Atlanta they're shooting the second most threes at the best percentage in the league. There's two explanations I see for this: opponents are getting extremely lucky against us, and our defensive scheme is leaving shooters open and makes us susceptible to these high variance swings.

Both of these explanations can be shown through how teams are shooting based off the closest defender. Looking at the Hawks' opponent's 3pt shooting by closest defender, here's what you get:

Two things jump out. First, opponents are shooting really well on their open 3s. If you combine the 4-6 and 6+ filters, the Hawks' opponents are currently 1st in open 3pt% at 43.4%. It sucks for us, but there isn't really that much influence teams have on open 3pt%. In theory that won't stay as bad for us as it has been, so that should help us a bit in the future.

On the other hand, we're also giving up the second most open (4+ ft) 3PA/game. That leaves us open to wide swings in variance, and until that gets fixed we're going to be really susceptible to opponents having a hot night from 3. On top of that, we're also giving up the second most second chance 3PA/game at 5.75. If I had to guess, these stats likely feed into each other, since 3 point shooters after an offensive rebound are more likely to be lost in the shuffle and be open. The good news is that as the team spends more time together (and once we get some players off the IR) our defense should be able to gel together more and respond to offensive rebounds more effectively. The bad news is that we're currently 22nd in defensive rebound rate, so if that holds then we're going to have to deal with those situations a lot.

One thing I'd like to caution is that all of these stats are working off of very small sample sizes. No team has played more than 4 games this season, so one or two games can swing these numbers wildly (especially the shooting percentages). I'm going to hold off on making any long term judgements on the defensive scheme until we get a larger sample, but it's definitely something I'm keeping my eye on.