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For context, whenever teams and sanctioning bodies disagree, there is a high likelihood they split. It happened with CART and the Indy Racing League, they never recovered, even after merging into IndyCar. It also happened with IMSA/American Le Mans and Grand-Am/Rolex Sports Car Series, but they managed to bounce back. And there were threats arount the late 2000s/early 2010s of an F1 split.

link to post: https://www.instagram.com/share/p/_vSdRKbuJ

I did a thing to celebrate Lewis career and his move to Ferrari. Interactive visualization: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/vivif/viz/LewisHamiltontoFerrari/LEWISTOFERRARI

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TRASH TALK 101 FOR ANYONE NEW HERE - BEACAUSE. TRASH. TALK. IS. A. GENERATIONAL. THREAD.

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STEP ONE: LURK ON THE SUB VERY REGULARLY, MAKING SURE TO SORT BY “NEW”.

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STEP TWO: GET INSPIRED BY WHATEVER MAD NARRATIVE OR TREND GRIPS THE SUB THAT PARTICULAR DAY / WEEK. OFF SEASON IS QUITE SLOW BUT RACE WEEKS / WEEKENDS SHOULD YIELD A LOT OF SUBJECT MATTER. THE MORE INSANE AND UNREALISTIC, THE BETTER QUALITY SUBJECT MATTER IT IS. WATCH PEOPLES' OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR VERY CLOSELY - IT WILL YIELD SOME FASCINATING INSIGHT.

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STEP THREE: AT THIS STAGE YOU MAY BE FEELING SICK WITH THE AMOUNT OF NONSENSE YOU HAVE FORCED YOURSELF TO VIEW. FEEL FREE TO STEP OVER INTO r/f1circlejerk AND MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER BY POSTING A MOCKING IMITATION OF THE NONSENSE.

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HOWEVER AS YOU BUILD YOUR TOLERANCE, YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF ABLE TO WAIT FOR MONDAY, THE HOLIEST OF DAYS. PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU RACE DAY SUNDAY IS THE BEST DAY, BUT THOSE PEOPLE ARE UNENLIGHTENED SAVAGES.

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STEP FOUR:

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(A) AS SOON AS THE TRASH TALK THREAD IS POSTED, UPVOTE IT. THIS IS IMPORTANT.

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(B) [REDACTED]

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(C) THEN - UNLOAD YOUR MOCKERY AND SCORN OF ALL THE VILE RUBBISH YOU HAVE WITNESSED FROM SUB USERS AND "RESPECTED" "JOURNALISTS".

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(D) SIT BACK AND WATCH THE UPVOTES GATHER. CLEVER PHOTOSHOPS AND META REFERENCES WILL YIELD MORE UPVOTES.

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STEP FIVE: REALISE THAT TRUTH AND SENSE ONLY EXIST IN THIS THREAD AND MAKE IT YOUR WEEKLY MISSION TO POST HERE.

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AND REMEMBER: FLAIR UP AND SMASH THAT CAPS LOCK! AAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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GOOD LUCK AND MAY THE TRASH TALK BE EVER IN YOUR FAVOUR.

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/r/FORMULA1 [POSTING GUIDELINES](/r/formula1/wiki/userguide#wiki_posting_guidelines) STILL APPLY.

I recalculated the entire 2012 championship where drivers would only be able to win a single race.

How this works is we take a race winner, see if he won a race, if he did we take 2nd place, if 2nd place also won we take 3rd place etc. And everyone ahead of our SIMULATION WINNER is demoted a place...

Unfortunately I could not do the constructors standings, very sorry for that...

I included a graph of points history and the entire excel spreadsheet, if someone's name is gold in the spreadsheet that means they won a race in the simulation. Hope you like it!

BRZ is brazil by the way I did not want to put BRA

Full Standings

Points History Line Graph

Ever since 2022 I have been buying the checkered flags from F1 Authentics for every different GP I go to. I like them because they instantly take me back to how fun those weekends were. Last year they reduced the size and some went up in price but I still do the effort to get these (Miami was the priciest one but still nothing like how expensive Vegas/Silverstone are).

I am going to Monza this year, and I see a lot of different advice and opinions. Some websites say it is different from race to race? The website I booked the tickets from says you can bring a camera (I have an apsc with a detachable lens) and similarly some reddit posts say they have brought professional cameras to races like SPA. But other booking websites and I believe the official f1 website as well say it is not allowed. So does anyone have experience with bringing cameras to an f1 race/Monza and can tell me if it is doable or not? Also, if I bring it and it turns out it is not allowed can I store it anywhere?

Due to the success of the Netflix show Drive to Survive, Formula 1 has become something of a household topic in recent years. But growing up in my household... it was always there. For as long as I can remember, motorsports have been a big part of my family. Instead of watching football together on Sundays, we would watch races. School projects involved studying aerodynamics as they relate to Formula 1 cars and making huge posters so that I could break down components like how front and rear spoilers and downforce contribute to the car's overall handling. As a family, we would discuss the logistics of getting a go-kart and hitting professional tracks, going on tours, and someday making it to IndyCar or, fates-willing, the illustrious Formula 1.

I was 7 years old when Ayrton Senna died, and to hear my mother reminisce on the topic one would think that a member of the family had passed. A distant one, to be sure, but someone that the entire family loved and would miss dearly. My dad had a Senna shirt since before it was popular. Okay, that's probably not true. It was certainly popular then too, obviously. I had a couple pins we had gotten at the Long Beach race. One was of Schumacher in his Benetton, but the other was a Senninha pin that represented Aytron's outreach to children during his career. My favorite driver was Michael Schumacher because... well he was a winner and I was 7. If you think that's lame, just look at how many Chicago Bulls fans suddenly spread like a plague across the nation in the 90s. Or look at how many fans Max Verstappen has today. I also loved Schumie because we shared a first name and that meant that automatically he was cool, right? Schumacher also continued racing, and continued winning, for years after the death of Ayrton Senna.

Senna's death didn't have much gravity for a 7 year old. This is what they all risk going into the sport anyway, right? But as the years went on, despite the amount of wins that Schumacher piled on, and then his successor in Lewis Hamilton, the name Senna is always brought up in a compare and contrast. The question remains. Who is the greatest of all time in the Formula 1 world? Now Netflix's miniseries does not seek to answer that question, but they do give us insight into someone who would almost be akin to a savant in the racing world.

The Good

Senna is a solid miniseries that explores Ayrton's life from the time when he was a small child right up until his death. The first episode explores how he functioned as a child and his overall obsession with vehicles in general. His father builds him a go-kart and its off to the races - pun intended. I'm not sure that Milton had Ayrton's future obsession in mind when he took him down that path, but his son ending up making a huge impact before and after death in the racing world and beyond.

The second episode continues with Ayrton's return to the junior circuits in the hopes of moving up to Formula 1. His marriage is dissolved, and although he's a bit depressed about it... this is his calling. He moves quickly into the Formula 1 scene and from then on in the series we see his upward trajectory. It is fraught with issues because of his nationality and assertive personality, but ultimately Ayrton makes a splash wherever he goes. He's a natural leader and continues to build the credentials to prove it. It should be noted that this is especially true at McLaren. Okay, maybe that doesn't need to be noted specifically, but I would just like to point out that my boys are back on top.

The acting in Senna is superb. Gabriel Leone does a fantastic job in his portrayal of the late driver in much more than simple appearance. He walks and talks like Ayrton, and it's easy to get lost in the episodes and not think about how you're watching a fictional portrayal of a real man's life. Netflix sticks to the facts, usually, and they nail it. The portrayals of Niki Lauda, Alain Prost, and James Hunt were all true to form for who they were at the time. Well... Prost's portrayal might give the old man a bit of a raised eyebrow, but what can you do?

Pacing is also well done in the series. The fact that it's only 6 episodes works in the show's favor. It never overstays its welcome. There are times I wish that it had spent a bit more time on certain years... but I understand that they had to propel things forward.

There is also a good amount of anxiety laced throughout the show. While you know that he is not going to die until the final episode, Senna's fight for wins and championships becomes your fight too. All from the safety of your couch! No, but seriously. The way that races are shot, and the focus on shifting gears and revving engines... the adrenaline builds.

The Bad

While most of the show is great, that doesn't mean it's without its faults.

I think one of the main things to remember is the perspective that the show is giving us. It's Ayrton's story, and thus he is never going to be in the wrong. At least, not completely. He fulfills his obligation to his father and wife in the beginning, so seemingly keeps his promise about returning home to Brazil, but finagles a way to get what he wants by ultimately leaving. The show does not really give us the perspective of how emotionally crushing this is for his wife and father... but like I said, it's not their story. There's a bit of bias in the interpretation, and that's really just a single example.

The bias will be found throughout all of Ayrton's story, especially for those who remember that he was a bit of a womanizer. It should be noted that none of these women came forth with allegations of any kind, he was very popular with all of them, but they kind of skirt over that in the show to show that sure he has a good time sometimes but there's always a steady girlfriend. That was certainly not the case. Xuxa probably would not have been too thrilled to hear about the other women on the side. This could also be a key reason behind some of the time jumps.

While I admitted early that the time jumping is necessary in some parts to propel the story forward, it can be a little jarring when you're suddenly hit with a three-year jump right in the middle of Ayrton's F1 career. Maybe a bit more exposition could have fleshed out some of those moments for the audience, but I'm sure they had their reasons for delivering it the way they did.

In the earlier episodes, there are times when the focus on the driving can take you out of the show a bit. The only reason for this is because of the heavy use of CGI. A lot of it isn't done too well, and the vehicles in these moments can look a bit fake. In contrast, when they focus on archival footage of Senna actually driving everything works perfectly, but it could be that Netflix was limited with the minutes of actual footage they were able to display in the show.

My last big complaint with the series has to do with Laura Harrison. Laura is a fictional character for the series. She is meant to act as an amalgam of journalists throughout Senna's career, which is probably why she speaks both Portuguese and English fluently, but I did not like her. Her character displays the tumultuous relationship that reporters had with Ayrton, a do they like him or do they not kind of thing, but when its piled onto just one person it makes her come off like a treacherous witch. Is there a typo at the end of that sentence, or not? You decide. Either way, I did not like her and I also thought it was annoying when she would pop into certain scenes. The dynamic wasn't fleshed out properly, for me, and I thought she also came off as obsessive. I kept turning to my wife and saying, "Does this woman want to sleep with him or... what's the angle here?"

The Glory

In spite of its flaws, Senna was great. Glorious, as I like to say. While it has moments that could have been better, the entire thing is done with love and respect.

Incredibly human moments are abound in the series. Not everything is behind the wheel of a car. We get to see the man sing karaoke... only slightly better than I could. I would also like to point out that his choice of Tears for Fears's "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" could not have been more apropos. Great scene. Excellent overtones.

At the end of the entire thing they show real clips of Ayrton and those closest to him. He shows his inspirational side to those who are willing to listen, and there's a profound sadness in the loss for all of us. As his mother tells him in the series, he is more than a racing driver. I think it's easy for all of us to get caught up in that line of thinking. We see celebrities of every avenue and only know them as that specific thing they do, but there are layers to all of us. That must be true for them, too.

Senna goes into the category of must-watches for those who are just now getting into the sport. After all, there's a reason that F1 is so popular now. This show would not have been made 10 years ago simply because the market was not there in America. For once, we're a little late to the game. But... better late than never. Unless you're racing, that is.

8/10 - Glorious

Olé, Olé, Olé Ola

Senna

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Not sure if this has been discussed on here before, this is just a shower thought I had, I'm not saying this would ever be logistically possible to implement.

I'm thinking a league with 3 formula divisions all using the same technical regulations for fairness. Obviously this means that F1, F2 and F3 would have to run the same spec car as each other, which constructors can then tweak based on the regs, so that if an F1 constructor dropped into F2 they wouldn't just absolutely dominate the F2 season, and if an F2 team got promoted to F1 they would actually have a chance to be competitive. I can see it boosting F2 and F3 viewership but obviously there is a lot wrong with this idea too

Welcome to the r/formula1 Daily Discussion / Q&A thread.

This thread is a hub for general discussion and questions about Formula 1, that don't need threads of their own.

Are you new to Formula 1? This is the place for you. Ever wondered why it's called a lollipop man? Why the cars don't refuel during pitstops? Or when Mika will be back from his sabbatical? Ask any question you might have here, and the community will answer.

Also make sure you check out our guide for new fans, and our FAQ for new fans.

Are you a veteran fan, longing for the days of lollipop men, refueling during pitstops, and Mika Häkkinen? This is the place to introduce new fans to your passion and knowledge of the sport.

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