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Thank you for taking the bait title I put out for you, here are some of my thoughts on the magic system of Type-moon.

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One of the biggest parts in creating a fantasy world is the world building. And in most fantasy worlds magic is a part of it, and is broken down into either a SOFT magic system or a HARD magic system. How certain things like magic works and affects the world as a whole. What can and can’t it do? World building also has certain rules that a creator or creators have in place that has to be adhered to to a certain degree.

 Such as in Avatar; the bending and how they counter each other and the differences in utility of each element, and how it comes from a person's personality; FMAB is another great example of a HARD magic system and how it is a fantastic way to challenge your characters and create a compelling narrative I have a bit of bias in terms of this type of magic system called a HARD magic system. 

A SOFT magic system is one where there are no “defined” rules. Or if there are rules it is either constantly being broken or isn’t fully realized by the characters in the story. On the flip side you have a HARD magic system that has explained rules that the characters interact with and have to find creative ways to utilize to its fullest. 

Type moon is a mix of the two (as most are) but it is on a sliding scale of what it is. It’s more of a HARD system that is TRYING to be a SOFT magic system. You do get explanations and how mage craft works and how it is a degraded version of magic and what the different magics can do, but it is constantly breaking those very rules they set up, Over and over and over again.

Now there isn’t anything wrong with that, it's just a very weird thing to do. The biggest reason a SOFT magic system is a very slippery slope is that it is just full of Deus ex Machina’s and Ass pulls (Which Nasu has done a few times). In saying that, one of the things about the modern Nasuverse (2015 - now) is there are so many ass pulls just because of “It’s cool”. 

The main offender of this is FGO as it is constantly breaking established rules and goes by the rule of cool. With this actively happening I’m pretty much asking myself “Since the rules are constantly being broken, why care about it?”. It's one of my (Many) gripes I have with the Nasuverse as a whole that I just wanted to have a discussion about.

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I love the Nasuverse and all of the characters in it (Most of them, fuck Shitsuka), and I just wanna critic it as Nasu is FAR from a perfect writer, but he is a damn good one.

What are your thoughts on the Nasuverse, and how he handles his rules and how magic works in type-moon?

Proper as in more accurately conveying Shirou's character to the audience. Also I haven't read the VN yet, I'm still reading Tsukihime, so I'm in part expecting to learn some more about the differences between the VN and the anime aside from how Shirou was portrayed, simply because I find the subject interesting.

From what I've heard most of Shirou's exposition is within internal monologues so the most direct approach would be simply adapting his internal monologues but doing so would severely hurt the pace of the anime and tbh at that point it'd be better to simply read the VN.

You could add elements to the story or smaller arcs that are better suited to expose Shirou's mentality to the audience, however I believe that doing this properly could end up making the story diverge a lot from the VN. I personally wouldn't mind this since VNs and anime are pretty different media so it would simply mean that watching the anime wouldn't spoil the VN.

I'm sure I have some misgivings about the reasons people dislike the anime so much as to say ufotable butchered the story, however I want to learn more about this subject since going with what I currently know the issue is within F/SN not having been written with an adaptation in mind.

It’s honestly such a fun time I don’t really care for the whole bazzet and avenger plot so I just skip those bits but the slice of life stuff is absolutely fantastic also something I never see brought up is how hollow ataraxia is a lot more “animated” than stay night

And by animated I mean the the character pngs change and move a lot hell there are even some scenes where the models become goofy badly drawn chibi versions of themselves it’s hilarious but it also has a lot of really nice moments as well

Like shirou visiting illya and spending the night in her castle where they end up sleeping together and it’s a really sweet scene since illya can actually be happy for once and I love it.

Also yeah this visual novel is actually really funny as well if you’ve played it you’ll understand what I’m talking about with this:

Saber hiding her lion

And Saber learning to swim

These two are some of the funniest but also most adorable scenes I have seen in fate.

But yeah give hollow ataraxia a try we’re not likely to ever get an anime for it given how the story is told so go out and give it a try it’s not a massive visual novel like stay night it’s far shorter and is made up of mostly slice of life stuff so you can read a scene with a character close the game and come back later with having not missed anything important since it’s very light hearted.

Basically if you like the stay night cast and just wanna see them happy then give it a try I promise you won’t regret it.

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What does he mean when saying "it's falsely similiar to strengthening"?

You learn something new every day

I've already played F/SN, literally anything relating to fate that has good Rin content I will consume it all

I found this really cool fate DIY setup board game which uses python to summon servants. Me and my friends have been playing it a lot recently and it is genuinely so fun. They have like servant stats based on each servant with legendaries being the strongest. I suggest you guys also try playing it with your friends.

Link: https://www.glasswebstudios.com/fatebattlefront

So I believe that Foreigners are beings connected to Outer Gods, but what specifically makes one a foreigner. Could any alien be counted a foreigner or do they specifically need to be connected to an Outer God? Because I don’t think Mysterious Heroine XX is the servant of an Outer God, but I don’t know.

And is very skilled martial artist

So after going through both fsn and fha vn i decided to watch f/zero and saber character seems to be heavily butchered. First saber felt very defensive but if you have read the vn saber would rather strike first and not bother giving introduction, but here she seems too extremely naive trying to be mr gud knight.

2nd saber op instincts seems to be completely absent, throughout the series we have learned that her sense of danger is extremely busted but here it feels completely absent, her deciding to tank hit with her armor to go for an killing blow she completely ignores the possibility of his red lancer having any form of special ability.

3rd her taking her armor of in the middle of battle felt so stupid, wtf is this writing Did the author read the vn? What did lancer mean the benifit of taking her armor their is deadass zero benifit for her to not have armor she would rather waste mana and maintain armor hefore a fight then do in middle of it, while we are at it she never relies on her armor to tank through, throughout the series she would always repel/block with her sword first or nuke the enemy with her mana

4th her forgetting lancer dropped spear or the location where he dropped it sounds so stupid, while we are at it why is master of lancer not bothering to strike irisviel with his magic skills who btw is standing in the middle of the road in the front of the battlefield he is definitely far superior then irisviel but instead he will rather wait for his servant to kill over getting rid of saber master

have been thinking of a male oc with wolf motif who would be a good person and magic user or he recently learnt about the world of magic etc

https://www.tumblr.com/art-of-manliness/143356362576/how-to-really-be-alpha-like-the-wolf?source=share

""So an alpha wolf can indeed be violent and assertive when the situation calls for it. Yet for the most part, he leads not with noisy brashness and teeth-bared aggression, but steady strength, mettle, and heart; as McIntyre told another wolf researcher:

“The main characteristic of an alpha male wolf is a quiet confidence, quiet self-assurance. You know what you need to do; you know what’s best for your pack. You lead by example. You’re very comfortable with that. You have a calming effect.”

The gray wolf’s proclivity to roam and i"ts prowess as a predator has for thousands of years made it a powerful symbol of the warrior, and of the freedom, wildness, and ferocity of masculinity. But that’s just one side of the wolf, and one side of what it means to be a man.

Yes, alpha male wolves are wild, aggressive, and savage. But they’re also protective, nurturing, and tender."

the fact that when you get close to the root you see a woman in a red cloak which reminds me of little red riding hood who gets eaten by a wolf so I thought about a scenario with a guy with a wolf motif ( the noble wolf ) ( I was looking up stuff on internet about how the actual wolf behaves for a quote and this is the best I could)

what would be the impact for him discovering multiple magics(maybe he is someone born with a connection to root etc)

and he took a big risk etc ( the oc is also born with a large amount of magical energy like ciel and McDonell Trambelio Elrod magical energy restoration rate

what type of enemy would be dangerous enough to need that would he be able to face a servant ( maybe while to shirou who can do only one thing while the oc can do many different high feats of magic

So I'm a big fan of the Garden of Avalon light novel. I remember reading it back when it was fan translated. I also enjoyed the drama cd through aniwave/9anime, it was very well put with special images that fit the scene and subtitles that made it feel like I'm watching an anime.

Recently aniwave has sadly shut down alongside other anime sites and I can't seem to find it anymore. This sucks because I was hoping I could show my friend this since she was intrested in the drama cd. The only one I could find in youtube is one that's in Russian, I can't seem to find one in English.
If you do have it I'd appreciate it a lot. Thank you.

like say if the mage was someone shirou trusted and he gave permission would they be able to replicate his reality marble's abilities via creating a replica of his mind ( which is possible see add) what if he gave his permission that after his death the magic user coudl take his brain and utilize it to create a replica.

say the magic user is among many things a very talented blacksmith and he with access to it can use it to forge weapons.

and this is needed to defeat a powerful foe/enemy to save people