/r/Emo

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The largest online community for all things regarding emo music.

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A Brief Introduction to Emo & its Various Forms

Emo is a genre of cathartic punk/alt rock music derived from hardcore known for its personal lyricism, loud/soft dynamics, and occasionally twinkly guitar work which all follow a distinct history and lineage. Resulting from its punk and hardcore roots, emo has a strong sense of DIY ethics, modesty, and authenticity. Aside from a handful of examples, emo has not experienced much mainstream exposure.

To clarify, Emo is NOT a style of fashion, a product, a feeling, or a demographic. Despite popular misconception, the following bands are NOT emo: My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, Pierce the Veil, Black Veil Brides, The Cure, Copeland, Linkin Park, Twenty One Pilots, Green Day, Blink-182, AFI, The Front Bottoms, Paramore, Teen Suicide, Pinegrove, Phoebe Bridgers, Third Eye Blind, etc. Furthermore, appealing to fans of emo, carrying similar characteristics, citing minor emo influences, and/or touring with emo bands does not necessarily equate to a band being emo. Emo is decided by scene involvement, history, significant influence, aesthetic, lyricism and musical style.

Outside Influences: the following genres and bands are NOT EMO but have had a strong impact on the sound and scene. These are sometimes referred to as Emo Adjacent. Genres: hardcore punk, post-hardcore, post-rock, slowcore, post-punk, math rock, pop punk, indie rock, college/slacker rock, and power pop Bands: Husker Du, Buffalo Tom, Weezer, the Smiths, Fugazi, Modern Baseball, Slint, Nation of Ulysses, Unwound, Modest Mouse, Death Cab for Cutie, Built to Spill, Codeine, Seam

The Waves The breaking up of emo into waves is a common, yet controversial, method of labeling different eras of emo. Not every wave is all one style or sound, although certain waves typify some more than others. The years of the waves, roughly speaking, are:

1st wave: 1985 to ~1992 (emocore/DC/Revolution Summer)

2nd wave: 1992 to ~2002 (Midwest emo/screamo/Skramz)

3rd wave: 2002 to ~2009 (Emo pop/basement emo/proto revival/screamo)

4th wave: 2009 to ~2018 (Emo revival/Twinkledaddies/Midwest emo/skramz)

5th wave: 2018 to Present (Emo pop/Sparklepunk/Weedmo/Emo Revival 2.0)

Emocore, the original form of emo, began approximately in 1985 as an emotionally charged and progressive form of hardcore punk, centered in Washington, DC, as a response to the machismo of the larger hardcore scene. It's short for emotive hardcore. Whereas hardcore before emo was often more nihilistic or political, emocore made the political personal and the personal political. These bands are often tagged "Revolution Summer" bands, and include artists such as Rites of Spring, Embrace, The Hated, Moss Icon and Fuel (not to be confused with the 90s alt rock band) and later on Native Nod, Navio Forge, Indian Summer and Still Life. This is the most pure distillation of "emo," although far from the only iteration. The term fell out of use in the mid 90s but was revitalized years later as a way to denote modern bands who still adhere to emo's hardcore roots, as opposed to a more indie rock approach. This included bands such as Life at These Speeds, Lumber Lung, End Of A Year, Overo, Feels Like Heaven and Jade Dust.

Midwest Emo is a style of emo that originated in the early 90s that takes from the song structure (and occasionally vocal style) of previous emo bands, but imbues it with more melodic sensibilities and broader influences. Bands started to experiment more with loud/soft dynamics, intricate melodies, heavy build-ups, and twinkly guitar work. At the core of these bands lies a commitment to the DIY ethic and an embrace of sincerity. Cap'n Jazz is often cited as the first midwest emo band, although bands like Gauge, Friction and Sideshow predate them. Perhaps the most influential band to this type of emo at the time, while ironically not being from the Midwest, was Sunny Day Real Estate. There are two trains of thought when concerning Midwest emo: The original concept was that it was a scene in the 1990s and early 2000s, not a sound. This would include only emo bands from the literal Midwest such as Cap'n Jazz, The Promise Ring, Boys Life, Braid, The Get Up Kids, Gauge and others. Sound and style didn't matter as much as geography, although the sound was often similar. This was the prevailing thought on Midwest emo until sometime in the mid ‘00s, when the association was widened to any bands who were perceived to have a similar sound, even if not from the Midwest, such as Christie Front Drive, Mineral, Texas Is The Reason, Jimmy Eat World and Sunny Day Real Estate, as well as later bands like Algernon Cadwadaller and Snowing. There is still much debate today over which definition is more accurate, usually drawn along generational lines. Also, while not originally a hallmark of the sound, Midwest emo eventually began to be associated with "math rock" around the 2010s due to the delayed influence of bands such as American Football. Today, many people informally use the term "Midwest emo" to mean anything that's not "mall emo" or "skramz," regardless of geography.

Screamo is an aggressive offshoot of Emo which began in the early 90s and is characterized by yelled or screamed vocals and dissonant guitar work. Screamo bands usually shy away from conventional song structures and often play around with loud/soft dynamics. Because screamo is often used as a catch all term for all genres with unclean vocals, many screamo fans often refer to true screamo as "Skramz", which began as a tongue-in-cheek joke in the mid 00s that nonetheless gained popularity as a term. Saetia, pg. 99, William Bonney, Orchid, L'Antietam, I Have Dreams, and the Kidcrash are a few examples of screamo bands. There are also screamo bands that experiment with post-rock and progressive rock tendencies, such as Gospel, Circle Takes the Square, and City of Caterpillar. The origins of screamo can be traced to many of the early 90s Gravity Records bands such as Heroin, Antioch Arrow and Clikatat Ikatowi as well as bands from other labels such as Honeywell, although these bands don't usually get called "Skramz".

Punk emo is a style that is usually considered more emo-adjacent than true emo due to the sound being closer to punk rock than traditional, hardcore influenced emo. Some of these bands, while not truly emo, were nonetheless wildly influential to emo, even sometimes more than "true" emo bands. These bands were punk rock bands who didn't share all the sonic similarities of most emo bands, yet had very emotional lyrics. This includes Jawbreaker, Samiam, Leatherface, Pegboy, Gameface and early Alkaline Trio.

Emo Pop describes various styles of emo with a tendency for poppy song structures, brighter/softer guitar work and a heavy use of hooks and anthemic choruses. Pioneered in the late 90s by The Get-Up Kids and the Promise Ring as they incorporated pop punk/power pop into their sound, the style would rise to prominence in the 2000s. Emo Pop often receives the most commercial success as well as diehard fans, notable examples include Taking Back Sunday, Free Throw, Dashboard Confessional, Tigers Jaw, Charmer, and The Early November. Emo Pop is a term that only gained use with the rise of the internet and is not a mutually exclusive term. For example, a band like The Promise Ring can be considered emo pop and Midwest emo at the same time, even if not all Midwest emo is emo pop.

The Emo Revival saw renewed public interest in emo, especially midwest emo, throughout the 2010s (despite existing prior). These bands were heavily influenced by Cap'n Jazz, Braid, American Football and Mineral; while having a strong bent towards math rock, indie, and pop punk in their song structure and guitar work. A few examples of these bands are Marietta, Brave Bird, Snowing, Prawn, Algernon Cadwallader, The World Is A Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die, The Hotelier, and Glocca Morra. As this scene grew in popularity, The emo revival became a near-mainstream style of indie rock and created various new subsets in the genre. This includes Twinkledaddies, which refers to bands with prominent math rock riffs and melodies; and Sparklepunk/weedmo, which combines noodly college rock guitar work, built around a base of pop-punk/power pop and playful lyricism (examples include Mom Jeans, Charmer, Oolong, and Equipment).

Want to learn more about the history of emo? Check out this site.

There is also a tree of Emo here to read up on the most important albums within its numerous subgenres. Click here.

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/r/postrock

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/r/Emo

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What is this song?

It goes "wake up! Wake up" blah blah blah, "get up! Get up" and its an unbeat tune. Suddenly the tune and those words are stuck in my head but I can't remember the lyrics in betwee. Kinda sounds like simple plan or Yellowcard

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2024/05/12
23:21 UTC

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Looking for Songs About Being Happy and Loving Life!

I'm happy as a clam and stoked to be in a long-term relationship that's fulfilling and loving. Pour some emo on me! All the hits that build you up and give you a lift, share your favorites!

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2024/05/12
22:30 UTC

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Lyric help!!

I’m losing my mind. I don’t know if it’s my OCD in full flare but I cannot get these particular lyrics out of my mind and cannot place the song.

They’re something along the lines of “everything he cannot give himself.” The singer is referring to love, care, positive emotions etc and the fact that he might be giving/showing those to other people but cannot give these things to himself. I’ve googled, wracked my brain incessantly, asked my fellow emo peers and it’s simply just not coming to me.

I want to say it’s in the tone of brand new, not a high pitched vocalist but at this point I couldn’t tell you one way or another. If anyone has any clue, please let me know!!!

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2024/05/12
22:22 UTC

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songs about breaking up a relationship ?

title, yeah, I just broke up a week ago a 8y relationship that I didn't love the person anymore, and need some songs for my feels, which ones you guys recommend?

in the style of sunny day real estate, mineral, title fight, the appleseed cast, christie front drive, hum, citizen, elliott...

can be some shoegazy stuff too like wisp, nothing, starflyer 59..

yeah i know emo has a fuckin lot of songs about this, just give me some recs

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2024/05/12
21:19 UTC

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Was anyone here at the Camping in Alaska show in LA last night?

God that was awful — not the band's fault though. The crowd was super disrespectful and full of annoying teens. I can't believe they had to call the fire department cuz people got injured in the mosh pit.

The mixing was also some of the worst I've ever heard. I literally paid $35 just to hear Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 4 live and I couldn't even hear Austin's voice because it was mixed so low.

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2024/05/12
21:07 UTC

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Hi :) I’m Sweet Pill’s FOH from their first headliner tour. AMA production/BBQ related

Just in case any of y’all are like me, constantly on the lookout for more knowledge on the technical side of a tour. I’d be happy to share what I know and what I learned on the road.

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2024/05/12
18:59 UTC

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When your bands too emo and Reddit gets concerned 🤔

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2024/05/12
18:49 UTC

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question about emo nite

Went to emo nite atl on the 10th and it was definitely a vibe and would recommend it. My question is do they go to like one state a year? is this a yearly thing?

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2024/05/12
18:47 UTC

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plan medico - me muero

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2024/05/12
18:13 UTC

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favorite emo releases lately?

so much good music coming out this year. some of my favorites:

riley! - keep your cool / oolong - self titled / gramma - eat

drop some of yours! emo or emo-adjacent idc

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2024/05/12
17:52 UTC

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Emo Zine

Hey! I run a zine called “Sabotage” for DiY alternative art and music, and have some really cool interviews! The Others Like Us, Oolong, and Ben Quad are already posted on our page, and we have more lined up! I’d love to see you guys there! Thanks so much!

https://www.instagram.com/sabotagezine?igsh=dzRwNzQ5bmphMnAy

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2024/05/12
17:45 UTC

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How are you?

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2024/05/12
17:32 UTC

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Hi there. Our band Brighter Days released a debut album 2 years ago this day. I remember some of you kinda liked our music in this thread, so if you wanna celebrate this day with us, here's the link to remember.

https://open.spotify.com/album/0wQLTBHluEAqHC3qQEeYrV?si=cxvYD1fcS_SrI3Fr7yMm7A

Thanks to everyone for listening and your support. <3

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2024/05/12
14:25 UTC

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Any love for the band “Wow, Owls!” ?

“Wow, Owls! was a screamo band hailing from Richmond, VA, who existed from 2003 to 2006. The band played their last show on 10/29/10 at the Fest in Gainesville, FL. Discography: "Pee Sout" CD-R (self released; February 2006) "Pick Your Patterns" CD/LP (Perpetual Motion Machine & Life In A Box; April 2005/February 2006) Split 7" w/ The Setup (Perpetual Motion Machine & Life In A Box; October 2005) "Mind Explosion" Demo CD-R/Cassette (self released/Goembessa; 2004) Members went on to be in Mouthbreather, Best Practices, and Sea of Storms.”

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2024/05/12
14:19 UTC

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Looking for a band…

Female fronted band (found on here so considered emo by some) with an amazing record with overdriven guitars, their follow up is more poppy and produced. Any ideas? Thanks!

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2024/05/12
13:37 UTC

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It really is like this though.

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2024/05/12
12:42 UTC

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Is the Midwest Emo intro thing something they actual do in some songs? Anyone have examples?

The midwest emo intro meme thing is super popular but is it based on truth? Anyone have some songs that have a melodramatic intro?

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2024/05/12
06:59 UTC

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Decade-Old Records

Now that’s it’s getting closer to the 1/2 way point of 2024, I decided to look over some records that are/have turned 10 this year. Which one is your fav? Did I miss any?

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2024/05/12
06:11 UTC

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similar artists to la dispute

ive been listening to a lot of la dispute recently and i was wondering if anyone knew some similar artists are were willing to share their playlists with similar music :)

17 Comments
2024/05/12
06:03 UTC

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JamisonParker - Best Mistake

One of the most overlooked emo bands of the 2000s.

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2024/05/12
05:03 UTC

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Saosin does Sunny Day's Seven

Holy fuck. It's so good.

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2024/05/12
04:45 UTC

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is it just me or does these lyrics not sound right with the song?

the song is Waking Up Never Felt So Dizzy by Marietta the “it’s getting tiresome” sounds right but the rest doesn’t

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2024/05/12
03:25 UTC

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What is an emo band that you consider to be emo that others don’t?

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2024/05/12
00:19 UTC

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Manners For Husbands - Camp Song

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2024/05/11
23:31 UTC

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Does this count as emo?

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2024/05/11
23:20 UTC

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What are other bands like Suis La Lune and State Faults?

Particularly the atmospheric post rock elements both have

3 Comments
2024/05/11
22:59 UTC

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The Plot To Blow Up The Eiffel Tower- One Stab Deserves Another

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2024/05/11
22:12 UTC

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Verkuylen - Another Try

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2024/05/11
22:04 UTC

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