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Everything pertaining to the technological singularity and related topics, e.g. AI, human enhancement, etc.

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A subreddit committed to intelligent understanding of the hypothetical moment in time when artificial intelligence progresses to the point of greater-than-human intelligence, radically changing civilization. This community studies the creation of superintelligence— and predict it will happen in the near future, and that ultimately, deliberate action ought to be taken to ensure that the Singularity benefits humanity.

On the Technological Singularity

The technological singularity, or simply the singularity, is a hypothetical moment in time when artificial intelligence will have progressed to the point of a greater-than-human intelligence. Because the capabilities of such an intelligence may be difficult for a human to comprehend, the technological singularity is often seen as an occurrence (akin to a gravitational singularity) beyond which the future course of human history is unpredictable or even unfathomable.

The first use of the term "singularity" in this context was by mathematician John von Neumann. The term was popularized by science fiction writer Vernor Vinge, who argues that artificial intelligence, human biological enhancement, or brain-computer interfaces could be possible causes of the singularity. Futurist Ray Kurzweil predicts the singularity to occur around 2045 whereas Vinge predicts some time before 2030.

Proponents of the singularity typically postulate an "intelligence explosion", where superintelligences design successive generations of increasingly powerful minds, that might occur very quickly and might not stop until the agent's cognitive abilities greatly surpass that of any human.

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4o using reasoning by default?

No button to toggle it and I don't know which model it's using for reasoning. I'm afraid it's using my daily limit's for o3-mini or o1-mini.

2 Comments
2025/02/04
09:56 UTC

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Scalable-Softmax Is Superior for Attention

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2025/02/04
09:39 UTC

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Universal Jailbreak Testing is up for Claude

6 Comments
2025/02/04
09:12 UTC

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How are you handling the rapid change AI is heralding? Here's my take.

It's fairly obvious AI improvement is coming to an endgame now. The improvement curves are accelerating across the spectrum. Improvements used to take years, then they took months, now we're looking at weeks. We're in for a wild ride. Not just you or me, but humanity as a whole.

I have put myself at ease knowing I, as an individual, can't do much about the impending changes, and have taken myself to enjoy day-to-day work life instead of waiting for the Singularity. There are people much, much smarter than me on the forefront of all this, and I'm simply not smart enough to put in my 2 cents.

It will happen, it will happen soon, and we might even find ourselves missing the pre-singularity era; we do have a habit about romantiscizing the past and seeing it through rose-tinted glasses. All previous generations believed they had it so much better than the current generation, after all.

I see many posts on this sub talking about "omg how can we prepare" and "AI will cause the rich to cull us all to live in their secluded AI paradises", but why bother? It'll happen wether we like it or not. I kinda became apathetic and just take my time enjoying the little things and staying on top of AI news. I believe the best way to experience this revolution is to stay informed without being consumed by anxiety, and just enjoy the little things before our lives change forever. In the end, what matters is how we choose to live while it happens.

GPT-4o put it like this: "Ultimately, history suggests that we will adapt, as we always have. Some will resist, some will embrace it, and some will find ways to thrive in ways we can’t yet predict. But in the meantime, enjoying the moment, staying informed, and not letting fear dictate your life seems like a solid strategy."

DeepSeek had this comment: "The singularity won’t be a single event but a cascade of shifts. This stance—grounded yet open—echoes the Japanese concept of “wabi-sabi”: finding beauty in transience and imperfection. Whether AI brings utopia, upheaval, or both, anchoring yourself in curiosity and small joys is a rebellion against despair. As the poet Rilke wrote, “The future enters into us… long before it happens.” How we meet it begins with how we live now."

Claude responded like this: "The focus on individual powerlessness over macro trends, while potentially unsettling, can paradoxically be liberating. It allows for a shift in focus to what is within our control - our daily experiences, relationships, and personal growth - rather than being paralyzed by anxiety over inevitable large-scale changes."

Thanks for reading this, it's nice to finally post my thoughts. And it's nice to write something without directly using ChatGPT or other AI to cohere my thoughts.

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2025/02/04
08:48 UTC

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DeepWeep

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2025/02/04
07:42 UTC

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This is a fascinating take from “Prey - Michael Crichton”

Please note I am not posting this to hold a view on AI, I just started reading prey and found the following snippet from the book fascinating and relevant to the world we live in today

Within fifty to a hundred years, a new class of organisms is likely to emerge. These organisms will be artificial in the sense that they will originally be designed by humans. However, they will reproduce, and will "evolve" into something other than their original form; they will be "alive" under any reasonable definition of the word. These organisms will evolve in a fundamentally different manner. . .. The pace . . . will be extremely rapid.... The impact on humanity and the biosphere could be enormous, larger than the industrial revolution, nuclear weapons, or environmental pollution. We must take steps now to shape the emergence of artificial organisms.... -Doyne Farmer and Aletta Bellin, 1992

4 Comments
2025/02/04
06:23 UTC

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Deepseek vs ChatGPT Plus Image uploads

Hello, I don't want to make this long. Is ChatGPT plus worth the $20 for image uploads to help with my homework? Basic calculus, computer science, chemistry, or can I save the $20 and just go with deepseek? I don't have enough experience with the latter to make a decision.

ChatGPT plus vs Deepseek for basic homework questions using image uploads?

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2025/02/04
06:16 UTC

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AGI is basically replication of thought processes & memory retrieval humans do when doing their jobs right ?

I mean isn't that as simple as it gets ?

OpenAI defines AGI as "a highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work" - and to get there , I feel the most important thing is :

Replicating those incredibly complex, often indescribable metacognitive processes that humans use while doing their jobs/work. And these abstract thought processes are uniquely diverse across different job domains. But it goes deeper: Even within the same profession, individual thought patterns vary dramatically. Two programmers might approach the same problem with completely different cognitive strategies. Their unique way of thinking is what sets them apart - what makes some exceptional and others merely competent.The abstract thinking in each domain is so nuanced that it's almost impossible to fully articulate. It's like trying to describe how you know something intuitively.

And

Memory is another crucial frontier. Right now, AI's memory capabilities are a joke compared to humans. We don't just store information; we recall long horizon contextually rich memories that subtly inform our current tasks. Current AI? Nowhere near that level.

Am I missing something? Agency and motivation can be packaged into 1) no ?

11 Comments
2025/02/04
03:32 UTC

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Just how likely

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2025/02/04
02:57 UTC

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2025/02/04
02:07 UTC

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I used Deep Research and here are my thoughts:

So I write an economic/investing/global trends blog for some finance folks and generally I'll spend 1-4 days researching whatever topic, adding notes and references, and then at the end it will take me 30-120 mins to write the blog adequately, not including possible editing time.

In this case, I was about to post a new blog that I was researching since last Tuesday and spent Saturday-Sunday writing.

I got a little annoyed at reading the half baked reviews of Deep Research and I have disposable income so thought fuck it, I'll get it and do a review:

So I entered the original prompt:

I am writing a blog called "Investing ~ The Future is Female" The blog is about the changing financial trends whereby women now have more money than men and are more and more entering the investment landscape in the US and globally. It would be supposed that women will invest differently and with a more ethical goal than men. Can you write me a blog article for this that will take about 5 minuets to read with data to back up your points, as well as visualisations of data if possible.

I didn't go into great detail in this prompt, just wanting to see what it would come up with.

It responded with:

That sounds like a fantastic topic! To make the blog as impactful as possible, could you clarify:

  • Do you want a US-focused analysis, or should it be global?
  • What specific types of investments should be highlighted? (e.g., stocks, real estate, venture capital, ESG funds, crypto, etc.)
  • Should we compare female vs. male investment behaviors with data, or focus mainly on women’s rising financial power?
  • Do you have a preferred tone? (e.g., inspiring, analytical, journalistic, conversational)
  • Would you like the article to include expert opinions or quotes?

Once you provide these details, I’ll get started on a well-researched, data-driven blog with visualizations!

I highlighted my desired focal points and away it went:

Stage 1

This process took about 3-5 mins. I didn't time it. That's approximate.

It delivered an exceptionally analytical blog drawing 25 sources in the end. It was deep, educational, concise, and in every way except layman understandable nuance, better than the blog I had written as far as data was concerned.

It totally lacked emotive tone, which was clearly to do with me not requesting one in the beginning.

https://preview.redd.it/z0arigwn31he1.png?width=1053&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9800f36cf002051c7dd500d57f627374c240926

https://preview.redd.it/e3z0qgap31he1.png?width=1230&format=png&auto=webp&s=c3a982329168762d6a25cdc8b28a9323140a757b

The result ended up being intermixed with accurate bar charts of changing trends and the tone of the text was fun, conversational, and most importantly it was accurate.

The entire process from start to finish, including me editing a few minor points, took about 30 minutes as opposed to a multiday effort that I was accustomed to.

I am not using this for monetisation purposes, and if that were someone's intent, I could see no reason why you could not to make your workflow infinitely more efficient and potentially far far better than you may have been able to produce otherwise.

I don't think the average user at all needs this Deep Research tool. But if you are seeking education, genuine research, and possible business applications, I think it would be a wise purchase.

44 Comments
2025/02/04
02:00 UTC

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Humanity's Last Exam creator thinks the benchmark won't even live for one year, and expects superhuman mathematicians in 2025

78 Comments
2025/02/04
01:01 UTC

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Just imagine.

37 Comments
2025/02/04
00:38 UTC

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Deep Research is Awesome (Chat Link Included)

I am a pro user and I'm super impressed with Deep Research so far. I haven't had time to review all the info here so it will be interesting to hear your impressions!

See and judge for yourselves.

Prompt: "Give me a comprehensive report of the AI news from the last week and our progress on AGI, ASI, and humanoid robotics."

Here's the link to the chat: https://chatgpt.com/share/67a13d3a-6db8-8006-8ba9-4f92d808b310

16 Comments
2025/02/03
22:13 UTC

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Sam Altman says the leap from GPT-4 to GPT-5 will be as big as that of GPT-3 to 4 and the plan is to integrate the GPT and o series of models into one model that can do everything

192 Comments
2025/02/03
20:56 UTC

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Deep Research is just... Wow

Pro user here, just tried out my first Deep Research prompt and holy moly was it good. The insights it provided frankly I think would have taken a person, not just a person, but an absolute expert at least an entire day of straight work and research to put together, probably more.

The info was accurate, up to date, and included lots and lots of cited sources.

In my opinion, for putting information together, but not creating new information (yet), this is the best it gets. I am truly impressed.

224 Comments
2025/02/03
20:21 UTC

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Exponential progress - now surpasses human PhD experts in their own field

277 Comments
2025/02/03
19:22 UTC

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Best model for creating a language?

Which LLM is the best for creating a new language according to you? Can it one shot it or does it do step by step?

3 Comments
2025/02/03
19:16 UTC

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People tend to forget ASI will be thousands of orders of magnitude smarter than us

264 Comments
2025/02/03
19:14 UTC

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Let’s play devil’s advocate

For the first time ever I’m actually starting to believe an intelligence explosion is likely in the next few years and life will be transformed. It feels like more and more experts, even experts who weren’t hyping up this technology in the past, are saying it’s going to happen soon.

But it’s always good to steelman your opponents argument which is the opposite of strawman. To steelman, you try to argue their position as well as you can.

So what’s the best evidence against this position that an intelligence explosion is happening soon?

Is there evidence LLMs may still hit a wall?

Maybe the hallucinations will be too difficult to deal with?

24 Comments
2025/02/03
19:09 UTC

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the future is getting scarier

I've seen a growing sentiment of accelerationism in this community, which I believe is rooted in:

  1. a dissatisfaction in the way things are
  2. an idealistic belief about the way things will be

The future includes great beauty and tremendous pain, both amplified by AI. Be careful to advocate too aggressively for a future that does not necessarily prioritize you. There has never been a more turbulent time in human history, and again we approach a plausibly imminent disaster last felt in the Cold War's atomics fanaticism.

We are approaching the creation of an intelligence the like of which the universe has never known, and each of us, no matter how disconnected from regulation, have a moral imperative to advocate for and practice measured rhetoric around the issue to avoid the pitfalls of human psyche: impulsivity, fanaticism, overconfidence. We have to talk about this with gravity. The world will change in the next 5 years, and it is everyone's responsibility to ensure the world becomes the utopia everyone hopes for.

58 Comments
2025/02/03
19:08 UTC

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Spatial and Physical AI - far from AGI?

At this point it seems like AI can do anything to do with analysing text and maths and coding, but where is the same stunning progress with spatial and physical AI?

I remember a few years ago OpenAI had a bunch of robotic hands solving Rubik cubes which was interesting, nothing much since - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmp0uGtShk

I've seen all of the various humanoid robots stumbling around, but nothing much better than what Atlas was doing again 5 years ago.

I've not seen any of this AI stuff do anything interesting either in terms of digital spatial, like use a piece of architectural software to draw up a set of plans.

Is anybody here keeping track of what's going on in that side of things? A lot of people are saying "AGI is now" and yet until I've seen a pair of robotic hands:

  • thread a needle and make lace
  • bake a cake with fancy icing and decoration
  • fix any mechanical problem with a car
  • build and plaster a brick wall
  • fix a watch

....it ain't AGI!

I'd be interested if you've seen any good recent videos on progress in that domain as everything right now is about AI contained within laptops, which is cool but not as cool as physical AI.

10 Comments
2025/02/03
18:02 UTC

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Sam's AMA comment about fast takeoff

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/ma9y557/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

"i personally think a fast takeoff is more plausible than i thought a couple of years ago. probably time to write something about this..."

should this not be in the news? i think this subreddit is one of the foremost places on earth to have a meaningful conversation about this topic, which is frankly earth-shattering.

we are talking about a freight train. everything - agentic digital AI, agentic embodied AI, agentic autonomous vehicles - happening in 'fast takeoff' - eg timelines reduced every month. 1 year ago people talking about a 10 year horizon. 3 months ago people talking end of the 2020's. Now major leaders are talking 2026-2027. THAT IS NEXT YEAR PEOPLE!

how the hell do you plan for THAT?! society has a reckoning that is imminent here. it seems that we aren't stopping this - open-source, china arms race, recursive learning - its all happening NOW and compelling the result. at some point, you stop thinking about planning for something and just stare slack-jawed in awe at the sheer speed of what's coming.

so my question - rather than talk about 'planning' for this type of insanity, how are you 'being' with it? what are your spaces for conversation? how are you engaging with your nervous system through this level of change? what are your personal risk mitigation approaches?

IMO we do not have societal mechanisms to reflect on this level of change. to ask bigger questions to ourselves of meaning and purpose through this. lets not be monkeys with better tools - AI is asking us to level up.

66 Comments
2025/02/03
17:57 UTC

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