/r/thevenusproject
The place to talk about The Venus Project.
This subreddit is NOT officially affiliated to The Venus Project organisation, but it does subscribe to the concepts Jacque Fresco promoted through said organisation.
The Venus Project offers a comprehensive plan for social reclamation in which human beings, technology and nature will be able to coexist in a long term, sustainable state of dynamic equilibrium.
reading
Designing the Future (short, 73 pages, in 13 languages) by Jacque Fresco.
Looking Forward (121 pages) by Kenneth Keyes and Jacque. Free e-books
movies
Jacque Fresco's 1974 interview with Larry King
visit
*[Resource Based Economy NPO](www.resourcebasedeconomy.org)
Note: This is fan created conversation space. It was not made by TVP or run by TVP representatives.
/r/thevenusproject
Anyone who’s had an experience with Jacque Fresco or the Venus project please share.
https://youtu.be/sgGiW1Tdzeg?si=TbjI_cVT9EMANeHG
This is the second part of the podcast with prominent people from TVP and the talks about the development in the future. In particular, Simon Michaux is the highlight of both parts. Go give it a look!
https://youtu.be/gQSwjwx0quw?si=SDZyY0I_pj8BH0Lh
Here we have a new podcast episode which discusses the plans for new ambitious project of TVP. Keep in mind, this video can be found both on World Beyond Capitalism, and Moneyless Society.
Just as the title says ive got a approximate vision how to build a better society for all the people living there, its not a solution for the world but for the people living there, if anyone is interested, here is a discord link https://discord.gg/svjqM4xs or if you dont want to directly join the discord, feel free to write a comment i will answer to them
Last time i checked didnt find any simulation of the project, since i am into city building games and the venus project, i always wanted to try it together making for example round cities in cityskylines and other experiments but that misses the point on the econnomy aspect. And i was thinking i could make a mod for CitySkylines(1) although I wouldn't know where to start because I miss some key points particularly on the project transition from regular economic society to the idealised vision.
For example:
This are just some issues i am not sure how are handled, althought i can figure out some solutions i wonder what are the project official stance on these.
Anyone would be interested helping in solidifying the concept, programming or test playing?
Can we talk about early transition problems and solutions?
Also anyone have any updates on the new zeitgeist documentary?
Hey all, I thought I had found a suitable replacement for myself but apparently I was wrong. I don't know how long the subreddit was locked due to the replacement mod getting himself banned but that's now been addressed. Please accept my apologies.
We need to buy a huge plot of land somewhere in the middle of planes USA where land is cheap. Maybe a couple thousand acres to start. The first people to live there will basically be living on a homestead. They’ll learn how to grow their own crops and be self sustainable. From their small home you expand out building homes in circular fashion around the center plot. All roadways and pipelines are connected in this circular fashion as to economize space. The next row of buildings will again be in circular fashion at a wider diameter, and always leaving enough space in between so each home can grow its own crops and manage the land.
Initially it’ll be a farming phase, but once we get any surplus we can export crops out of the city to supplement for other amenities. Basic raw materials for building, satellite internet, water treatment plants, waste management, solar and wind energy; all these things start coming in at this point. We’ll need land surveyors, engineers, architects, and some modern machinery (backhoes, cement trucks, etc.)
We continue adding rows of buildings at a wider diameter as the population grows. Remember the point of these city designs is not for centralized planning, but to initiate a city with the most efficient, sustainable growth and living standard based on physical mathematical laws. We can crunch the numbers and arrive at what the best layout is not because I or Fresco say it is, but because thats what the math says.
When possible we backtrack the center buildings with newer materials and the better technologies. Eventually even a magnetic rail system. If the city manages to become self sustainable then we do away with the monetary system. We focus heavily on education at this point, educating the people of this city and of the rest of the world. Anyways theres obviously more, but ill leave it there.
I have a channel in this server for all things related to The Venus Project. Here’s the link:
I’m paraphrasing from Fresco but TIL what evolution really is. We always hear about people coming up with reasons why different species act or look the way they do, specially in nature programs. Rhinos have horns to kill or defend, we cough to get rid of infections etc. These are ridiculous claims made by people who are ready to accept anything. Where is the rabbits horn? What if coughing is to infect other people?
A real example on evolution is this: a long time ago butterflies had random patterns on their wings. The ones that didn’t get eaten by predators where the ones with patterns looking like eyes or something that would scare off the predators. So these continued to survive and after many years you would have many butterflies looking like they had eyes on their wings and not random patterns.
If a fish can change its color for camouflage, its not something he specifically learned to do. The other fish with worse camouflage were eaten so it looks like this fish learned to camouflage, but in reality it just was the one that survived. Or else every other species of fish would learn to camouflage as well..
I’m sorry for my english, but I get so annoyed when I look at nature programs and they come with all these stupid claims about why a specific species “learned” to grow eyes on their wings..
https://www.energy.gov/articles/doe-national-laboratory-makes-history-achieving-fusion-ignition
For First Time, Researchers Produce More Energy from Fusion Than Was Used to Drive It, Promising Further Discovery in Clean Power and Nuclear Weapons Stewardship
WASHINGTON, D.C. — The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and DOE’s National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) today announced the achievement of fusion ignition at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL)—a major scientific breakthrough decades in the making that will pave the way for advancements in national defense and the future of clean power. On December 5, a team at LLNL’s National Ignition Facility (NIF) conducted the first controlled fusion experiment in history to reach this milestone, also known as scientific energy breakeven, meaning it produced more energy from fusion than the laser energy used to drive it. This historic, first-of-its kind achievement will provide unprecedented capability to support NNSA’s Stockpile Stewardship Program and will provide invaluable insights into the prospects of clean fusion energy, which would be a game-changer for efforts to achieve President Biden’s goal of a net-zero carbon economy.
“This is a landmark achievement for the researchers and staff at the National Ignition Facility who have dedicated their careers to seeing fusion ignition become a reality, and this milestone will undoubtedly spark even more discovery,” said U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm. “The Biden-Harris Administration is committed to supporting our world-class scientists—like the team at NIF—whose work will help us solve humanity’s most complex and pressing problems, like providing clean power to combat climate change and maintaining a nuclear deterrent without nuclear testing.”
“We have had a theoretical understanding of fusion for over a century, but the journey from knowing to doing can be long and arduous. Today’s milestone shows what we can do with perseverance,” said Dr. Arati Prabhakar, the President’s Chief Advisor for Science and Technology and Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy...
"Only observing humans under Capitalism and concluding it's in our nature to be greedy is the equivalent of only observing us under water and concluding it's in our nature to drown."
Taken from Second Thought YouTube channel
What are some of the conversational roadblocks you get to when you are discussing the Venus Project and resource-based economy?