Shooting from Cover: A Primer

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Shooting from cover: a useful primer

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Another case deal at Harbor Freight

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>A federal appeals court upheld large portions of an expansive New York state gun control law on Thursday, saying the state can ban people from carrying weapons in "sensitive" locations such as schools, parks, theaters, bars and Times Square.

>In a 246-page decision, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan also let licensing officials prevent people they consider dangerous from using guns in public, by requiring gun applicants to show they have "good moral character."

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<p>A federal appeals court upheld large portions of an expansive New York state gun control law on Thursday, saying the state can ban people from carrying weapons in &quot;sensitive&quot; locations such as schools, parks, theaters, bars and Times Square.</p>

<p>In a 246-page decision, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan also let licensing officials prevent people they consider dangerous from using guns in public, by requiring gun applicants to show they have &quot;good moral character.&quot;</p>
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New York state can enforce many gun restrictions, US appeals court rules

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In October 1774, Britain banned the import of weapons to the American colonies in response to the Boston Tea 

British Regulars under orders from Governor Thomas Gage confiscated firearms and gunpowder from colonists and local governments. The British used violence to carry out these confiscations. 


<div class="md"><p>In October 1774, Britain banned the import of weapons to the American colonies in response to the Boston Tea </p>

<p>British Regulars under orders from Governor Thomas Gage confiscated firearms and gunpowder from colonists and local governments. The British used violence to carry out these confiscations. </p>
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This month is gun history 

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Democrat Lucas Kunce injured reporter while shooting. Gun safety experts had these concerns

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Gun Companies Gave Customers’ Sensitive Personal Information to Political Operatives

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After Covenant, Tennessee Elections Will Gauge Possibility of Gun Control

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City: Police had no constitutional duty to protect murder victim

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I left reddit for a minute and started new after having some creepy shit go on with someone and came back forgetting this place was the free speech version of LGO. 

I made a post there that was so harmless and it was removed in the sneaky way that you just dont know it is gone. What do they hope to achieve being so ridiculous? Just felt the need to share that. Thanks for keeping it going and keeping it real. 

<div class="md"><p>I left reddit for a minute and started new after having some creepy shit go on with someone and came back forgetting this place was the free speech version of LGO. </p>

<p>I made a post there that was so harmless and it was removed in the sneaky way that you just dont know it is gone. What do they hope to achieve being so ridiculous? Just felt the need to share that. Thanks for keeping it going and keeping it real. </p>
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LGO is still a cesspool of censorship

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Federal appeals court weighs Florida gun law

Well... This is where it begins

Sacramento proposed gun control measures: Impact on gun owners

Wyoming Man Trying To Get Federal Machine Gun Ban Overturned

Michigan And Hawaii Launch Tip Lines To Encourage Anonymous Snitching On Gun Owners - The Truth About Guns

Statehouse may consider stricter gun storage, reporting bills next month (IL)

New Mexico governor rescinds emergency health order that suspended gun rights in playgrounds

The case is  PA STATE POLICE V. LARA, MADISON M., ET AL.


<div class="md"><p>The case is  PA STATE POLICE V. LARA, MADISON M., ET AL.</p>
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US Supreme Court orders new look at Pennsylvania youth gun restrictions

Basically “no one needs to lose their guns, if gun owners just give up more of their rights, and call it a compromise.”….

<div class="md"><p>Basically “no one needs to lose their guns, if gun owners just give up more of their rights, and call it a compromise.”….</p>
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Opinion: No One Needs To Take Your Gun

>Im a hunter..

Just as meaningless as “I’m a veteran , but……”

> But these debates miss a lot. Owning a gun for the purposes of hunting is a fundamentally different thing than owning one for the purpose of killing another person.

The 2A isn’t about hunting. 

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<p>Im a hunter..</p>
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<p>Just as meaningless as “I’m a veteran , but……”</p>

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<p>But these debates miss a lot. Owning a gun for the purposes of hunting is a fundamentally different thing than owning one for the purpose of killing another person.</p>
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<p>The 2A isn’t about hunting. </p>
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I’m a Hunter. I Study Mass Shootings. Here’s What the Debate Over Gun Ownership Is Missing.

> “At least as to private property open to the public (the subject of this motion), New York’s restriction is unconstitutional,” wrote U.S. District Court John Sinatra, Jr., a Trump appointee. 

>”Regulation in this area is permissible only if the government demonstrates that the new enactment is consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of sufficiently analogous regulations,” the judge wrote, citing recent Supreme Court precedent. “New York fails that test here.” 

>The judge also denied a motion from New York for a two-week stay in the ruling while the state Attorney General’s office filed an appeal, reasoning that the state is unlikely to succeed on the merits. 

>Sinatra said that property owners have a right to exclude legal gun owners from carrying firearms on their property. “But the state may not unilaterally exercise that right and, thereby, interfere with the long-established Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens who seek to carry for self-defense on private property open to the public.” 

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<p>“At least as to private property open to the public (the subject of this motion), New York’s restriction is unconstitutional,” wrote U.S. District Court John Sinatra, Jr., a Trump appointee. </p>

<p>”Regulation in this area is permissible only if the government demonstrates that the new enactment is consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of sufficiently analogous regulations,” the judge wrote, citing recent Supreme Court precedent. “New York fails that test here.” </p>

<p>The judge also denied a motion from New York for a two-week stay in the ruling while the state Attorney General’s office filed an appeal, reasoning that the state is unlikely to succeed on the merits. </p>

<p>Sinatra said that property owners have a right to exclude legal gun owners from carrying firearms on their property. “But the state may not unilaterally exercise that right and, thereby, interfere with the long-established Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens who seek to carry for self-defense on private property open to the public.” </p>
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New York gun control regime handed defeat in court

Jon Stewart Claims Americans Don't Need Guns To Protect Their Constitutional Rights

“Proposition KK would levy a new 6.5 percent excise tax on gunsellers for all sales of ammunition, firearms and gun parts. The money would fund programs for crime victims and behavioral health support for veterans and youth. Democratic state lawmakers referred the tax to the ballot during the spring legislative session.

Here’s the language you’ll see on your ballot:

Shall state taxes be increased by $39,000,000 annually to fund mental health services, including for military veterans and at-risk youth, school safety and gun violence prevention, and support services for victims of domestic violence and other violent crimes by authorizing a tax on gun dealers, gun manufacturers and ammunition vendors at the rate of 6.5% of the net taxable sales from the retail sale of any gun, gun precursor part, or ammunition, with the state keeping and spending all of the new tax revenue as a voter-approved revenue change?

How would Proposition KK work?

The state would collect the new excise tax on sales from gun manufacturers, dealers and ammunition vendors with annual sales over $20,000. That tax would come on top of an existing 11 percent federal excise tax on those products.

While merchants could absorb the tax or pass it on to customers, the state estimates it would raise around $39 million annually.

Sales to law enforcement and active duty military would be exempt, as would private sales which occur between people who aren’t licensed as firearms dealers, or ammunition vendors. 

The tax would go to fund a number of different things.

The largest portion of the money, estimated to be $30 million, would go to grants for local governments and nonprofits to help crime victims with everything from counseling and legal advocacy to emergency financial assistance. 
Five million dollars would go to mental health support for veterans who have exhausted their federal benefits. 
Three million would go to support services for youth in mental health crisis.
The remaining $1 million would be dedicated to public schools to increase school safety. 

Who’s for Proposition KK?

The Democratic measure cleared the legislature with no Republican support and two Democrats opposed. It’s backed by a coalition of victims’ services organizations. The yes campaign has raised $73,000 according to the latest campaign filing report from the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office. 

Supporters argue the tax is needed because funding for victim services is dwindling. 

Organizations that serve crime victims are supported by the federal Victims of Crimes Act, which gets its money from court fines and fees paid in federal cases. But that fund has seen a drastic dip in recent years, with Colorado providers bracing themselves for a 40 to 50 percent drop in support next year. 

Backers say this new tax would help provide dedicated and reliable funding to help crime victims and those dealing with behavioral problems. And they argue that firearms are linked to all sorts of ills, from domestic violence and suicide to violent crimes and the lasting mental health impacts of trama, so it makes sense to tax firearms to help mitigate some of those impacts.  

Who’s against Proposition KK?

The National Rifle Association and other Second Amendment rights groups, including Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, opposed the proposal at the legislature. The official group opposing Prop. KK, Stop Tax Increases, had not filed any information about its finances as of Oct. 1 and is being penalized by the state for missing disclosure deadlines.

Opponents argue that while they support the goal of more funding for crime victims, taxing firearms and ammunition is the wrong approach because it forces law abiding gun owners to foot the bill for the actions of criminals. And they note these products are already subject to a federal excise tax.

Many opponents also see this as essentially a sin tax, an effort by the government to make it more expensive for people to use their Second Amendment rights, and thereby a backdoor effort to discourage them from buying and owning guns.

<div class="md"><p>“Proposition KK would levy a new 6.5 percent excise tax on gunsellers for all sales of ammunition, firearms and gun parts. The money would fund programs for crime victims and behavioral health support for veterans and youth. Democratic state lawmakers referred the tax to the ballot during the spring legislative session.</p>

<p>Here’s the language you’ll see on your ballot:</p>

<p>Shall state taxes be increased by $39,000,000 annually to fund mental health services, including for military veterans and at-risk youth, school safety and gun violence prevention, and support services for victims of domestic violence and other violent crimes by authorizing a tax on gun dealers, gun manufacturers and ammunition vendors at the rate of 6.5% of the net taxable sales from the retail sale of any gun, gun precursor part, or ammunition, with the state keeping and spending all of the new tax revenue as a voter-approved revenue change?</p>

<p>How would Proposition KK work?</p>

<p>The state would collect the new excise tax on sales from gun manufacturers, dealers and ammunition vendors with annual sales over $20,000. That tax would come on top of an existing 11 percent federal excise tax on those products.</p>

<p>While merchants could absorb the tax or pass it on to customers, the state estimates it would raise around $39 million annually.</p>

<p>Sales to law enforcement and active duty military would be exempt, as would private sales which occur between people who aren’t licensed as firearms dealers, or ammunition vendors. </p>

<p>The tax would go to fund a number of different things.</p>

<p>The largest portion of the money, estimated to be $30 million, would go to grants for local governments and nonprofits to help crime victims with everything from counseling and legal advocacy to emergency financial assistance. 
Five million dollars would go to mental health support for veterans who have exhausted their federal benefits. 
Three million would go to support services for youth in mental health crisis.
The remaining $1 million would be dedicated to public schools to increase school safety. </p>

<p>Who’s for Proposition KK?</p>

<p>The Democratic measure cleared the legislature with no Republican support and two Democrats opposed. It’s backed by a coalition of victims’ services organizations. The yes campaign has raised $73,000 according to the latest campaign filing report from the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office. </p>

<p>Supporters argue the tax is needed because funding for victim services is dwindling. </p>

<p>Organizations that serve crime victims are supported by the federal Victims of Crimes Act, which gets its money from court fines and fees paid in federal cases. But that fund has seen a drastic dip in recent years, with Colorado providers bracing themselves for a 40 to 50 percent drop in support next year. </p>

<p>Backers say this new tax would help provide dedicated and reliable funding to help crime victims and those dealing with behavioral problems. And they argue that firearms are linked to all sorts of ills, from domestic violence and suicide to violent crimes and the lasting mental health impacts of trama, so it makes sense to tax firearms to help mitigate some of those impacts.  </p>

<p>Who’s against Proposition KK?</p>

<p>The National Rifle Association and other Second Amendment rights groups, including Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, opposed the proposal at the legislature. The official group opposing Prop. KK, Stop Tax Increases, had not filed any information about its finances as of Oct. 1 and is being penalized by the state for missing disclosure deadlines.</p>

<p>Opponents argue that while they support the goal of more funding for crime victims, taxing firearms and ammunition is the wrong approach because it forces law abiding gun owners to foot the bill for the actions of criminals. And they note these products are already subject to a federal excise tax.</p>

<p>Many opponents also see this as essentially a sin tax, an effort by the government to make it more expensive for people to use their Second Amendment rights, and thereby a backdoor effort to discourage them from buying and owning guns.</p>
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Colorado Vote no on proposition KK firearms and ammunition tax

Harris may own a gun, but she doesn’t want you to (OPINION)

> Jillian Peterson, a professor of criminology and criminal justice at Hamline University, explained that it's hard to pinpoint just one root cause for gun violence in the U.S.

>”It's a very big, complex question," Peterson said. "I can talk about it at different levels."

>Peterson, who is the co-founder of The Violence Project, a nonprofit violence prevention research center, said that one source of gun violence is the culture around and access to firearms.

> "We have a long history of that culture of guns. It's very embedded in our societal identity," Peterson said. "And then just the sheer number of guns – having more guns than people in this country just means there is more opportunity."

It’s mainly the guns, says an anti gun activist, not a biased opinion in any way.. 

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<p>Jillian Peterson, a professor of criminology and criminal justice at Hamline University, explained that it&#39;s hard to pinpoint just one root cause for gun violence in the U.S.</p>

<p>”It&#39;s a very big, complex question,&quot; Peterson said. &quot;I can talk about it at different levels.&quot;</p>

<p>Peterson, who is the co-founder of The Violence Project, a nonprofit violence prevention research center, said that one source of gun violence is the culture around and access to firearms.</p>

<p>&quot;We have a long history of that culture of guns. It&#39;s very embedded in our societal identity,&quot; Peterson said. &quot;And then just the sheer number of guns – having more guns than people in this country just means there is more opportunity.&quot;</p>
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<p>It’s mainly the guns, says an anti gun activist, not a biased opinion in any way.. </p>
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America's gun conundrum: The root causes of gun violence

>In an interview with the Herald Wednesday, Leary said he was surprised when the citation arrived and had several theories, including a thought that it might be an “expert-level troll.”

> “I mean, you should have seen my face when I got it,” he said. “The irony of it is she’s acknowledging that I’m doing tireless work to preserve the rights of the people, which is literally the opposite of what she is doing, the Legislature is doing.”

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<p>In an interview with the Herald Wednesday, Leary said he was surprised when the citation arrived and had several theories, including a thought that it might be an “expert-level troll.”</p>

<p>“I mean, you should have seen my face when I got it,” he said. “The irony of it is she’s acknowledging that I’m doing tireless work to preserve the rights of the people, which is literally the opposite of what she is doing, the Legislature is doing.”</p>
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Say what!? Gov. Healey formally commends Cape Cod gun store owner leading repeal campaign

During a 60 Minutes interview, Kamala Harris tried to appeal to moderates by making clear she owns a handgun and she has used it. Honestly, it's deceptive at best. She stands up there and says, "I'm a gun owner" which somehow makes her Second Amendment-friendly.

60 Minutes Challenges Kamala On Her Gun Ownership Claims

> The event is scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. EDT.

Anyone who wants to hear the arguments, here’s the link. 

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<p>The event is scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. EDT.</p>
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<p>Anyone who wants to hear the arguments, here’s the link. </p>
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LISTEN LIVE: Supreme Court hears case on ‘ghost guns,’ kits that can be assembled into firearms

Misinformation and emotional manipulation all rolled into one article. 

<div class="md"><p>Misinformation and emotional manipulation all rolled into one article. </p>
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America, don't be the neighbor that fuels gun violence in Mexico (editorial)

> It's the second lawsuit filed in recent months opposing the major new law Gov. Maura Healey signed in July, which seeks to crack down on untraceable ghost guns, prohibits firearms in some public places, expands the state's "red flag" law and more

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<p>It&#39;s the second lawsuit filed in recent months opposing the major new law Gov. Maura Healey signed in July, which seeks to crack down on untraceable ghost guns, prohibits firearms in some public places, expands the state&#39;s &quot;red flag&quot; law and more</p>
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New Mass. gun law faces second legal challenge, plus a push to repeal

Any advice for wrist soreness. Been shooting more consistently lately, I workout often enough(I’m a personal trainer) but I’m having some new pain soreness in my right wrist…any thing yall experienced folks can think of. I’m assuming it’s grip shit and some grip/forearm work could remedy it but I’d rather ask yall folks with more time in this game then me especially if some of yall are fellow gym rats as well.  

Thanks. 

<div class="md"><p>Any advice for wrist soreness. Been shooting more consistently lately, I workout often enough(I’m a personal trainer) but I’m having some new pain soreness in my right wrist…any thing yall experienced folks can think of. I’m assuming it’s grip shit and some grip/forearm work could remedy it but I’d rather ask yall folks with more time in this game then me especially if some of yall are fellow gym rats as well.  </p>

<p>Thanks. </p>
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