This is hardly touched on in the show. I'm rewatching it and it just occurred to me that for all the things that the main characters despise Malcolm for, the fact that he murdered Oliver's and Thea's father rarely, if ever, comes up.

I get he did a lot of much worse things like the undertaking and having Thea murder Sara. But considering team Arrow likes to take things personally, it's weird that this very personal murder kind of gets swept under the rug quite quickly.

Even Thea likes to throw it in his face occasionally that Robert was the true father figure in her life and she doesn't see Malcolm as her dad, but she never brings up the fact that he killed Robert as a reason that she hates him. Seems like a missed opportunity.

I don't know why this is stuck in my head. It feels like one of those Mandela effect situations, but I'm obviously confusing it with something else.

Does anyone know of another show or movie where the base of operations was called The Alibi?

I watched the show when it released so that was quite some years ago now. I didn't finish it, but I'm just watching through season 1 now after a long time so that's why it's stuck in my head from before.

Edit: 10 seconds after posting this it came to me. If anyone's interested The Alibi was the name Kevin's bar from the US series Shameless. Just got them confused.

I want to preface this by saying that I love the show, especially the early seasons. There's a few things that would have been rather easy for the producers to do and in my opinion would have made the show better:

-Don't get rid of Laurel Lance. She was a complex and multilayered character that deserved better. The villain from another dimension wasn't bad but they could have had Katie Cassidy playing both roles simultaneously (like Nina Dobrev in The Vampire Diaries), she certainly had the acting chops for that.

-We didn't need so many different Black Canaries. Sara and maybe Laurel substituting for her occasionally would have been enough.

-Keep Sara on the show longer. This one might not have been so easy from a producer's point of view since probably the network/production company wanted her in Legends of Tomorrow, but I really think Arrow would have been a better show with more Sara.

-Also keep Slade and Nyssa around for longer. Both characters were a great fit for the show.

-Keep things simple. I really think the early seasons were a hit with audiences and are so rewatchable because the show's formula was relatively simple, even if there were still twists and turns things were easy enough to understand for casual viewers and the ' villain of the week ' formula worked. Almost every show loses viewers as the seasons go on but I think more viewers would have stayed if the late seasons were not so different from early Arrow.

I watched the first like three seasons or so several years ago. Been wanting to rewatch and catch up for a while, and now I have Netflix so I’m going for it.

I completely forgot what an unreasonable bitch Thea is to Oliver (at least in the first season) “you have no idea how hard it’s been for me living in luxury while you were being tortured for five years” dawg WHAT?!?! “You’re so distant now after enduring unbelievable trauma” WHAT DO YOU EXPECT

I get that she’s like 17 or something, and probably not the most compassionate person ever… but they could’ve given her just one single ounce of empathy

She is a cop who works at the same precinct as Laurel's father. In this episode when Oliver met her again at the police station toward the end of the episode, she said that Oliver was a jerk during their date. Why would she say this? She was asking a lot of questions about the island which Oliver clearly didn't want to speak about. All he said was he doesn't want to talk about it. How does this make him the bad guy? Especially considering it is very obvious the island was a highly traumatic experience and a very sensitive subject. If anyone was a jerk, it was her for handling the situation with such little tact.

Again, it's not that I'm nitpicking on tiny meaningless and obscure plot details, I'm just trying to understand, from a writing perspective, how this character interaction was intended to be realistic when to me, it seemingly made no sense. I'm doing so because I have an interest in story writing, so I appreciate any answers.

Does anyone have a file where the flashbacks are cut out of the main show and you can watch them continuously?

He goes on a rampage of trying to destroy oliver and make him feel true despair because he chose a childhood friend (Sara) over someone he met a year ago(shado) and I'm just so confused because yea Slade lost shado but so did ollie and sara??? Like dude he didn't really have much of a choice he moved forward and ivo shot shado. I get that some of it is part of the mirakuru or wtv it's called hut drugs aren't an excuse for almost destroying an entire city with over 600k people

Why do people like S5 so much? Does no one else think the first half at least is pretty bad? I may get downvoted for that, might be a bad take, but I just personally haven’t enjoyed it the past few times I’ve watched it. It gets better at the end of the season with Prometheus, yeah, but I just didn’t enjoy the writing.

So the human target… christopher chance… does anyone feel like it was a pretty bad introduction? I’m getting a sense of some deus ex machina, they sorta abruptly were like “yeah he’s here now just roll with it” without any great explanation or introduction. Or am I missing something? Was S5E5 really his very first introduction into the Arrowverse?

I think, other than Oliver, Quentin suffered the most in the 9 years the show aired, and the last 15 years of Oliver's life (5 years on the island/ being legally dead and then the 9 or 10 years of him being the Green Arrow of Star[ling] City). In all that time, he lost both of his daughters more than once, his wife left more than once, and he lost an unexpected son he later had in the form of Oliver Queen, whose very being he loathed with a boiling passion for most of Oliver's life.

That's just a summary. What other times did Quentin suffer in the most unfair of ways?

I very rarely finish a show that’s this long, I generally tend to rewatch the same teen drama but I loved Arrow as a teenager when it first came out, so I told myself I was going to finish it this time. Some potential spoilers which I tried hardest to not say outright.

I was apprehensive about season 8 because of the flash forwards, but I was not disappointed. I LOVED the time loop episode (watch it while high, it’s such an experience lol). That’s the episode where things started getting really weird, with Lyla cartoonishly flashing away. I was like what is going on.

I cried when the thing happens at the end of the show…I really thought that something would surprise me and things would change.

I wish William was in the show more than just Mia, I wonder where he went.

I actually liked Felicity and I felt her absence so strongly in this season. The last episode felt so rushed to me.

I also liked how each episode this season was kinda a mirror to his life before his final return to Star City.

The crossover was pretty good, the only episode I didn’t care for was Batwoman, and I didn’t really care that Black Lightning showed up, that was really random. But I also don’t watch any of those shows.

I have so many thoughts but I guess the last thing is that I’m just a little sad that the Canaries show never happened, I feel like it wouldn’t be as good as Arrow but I’d still watch it. I love Stephen Amell!

I read that some of the open plot points from the back door pilot are answered in Flash. I don’t watch Flash, what episodes should I watch?

Did anyone else realize the extreme Irony in that Oliver's teammates are always advising him to not take up all the blame on himself, yet in S6 when things start going bad literally everyone starts blaming Oliver for absolutely no valid reason. John blames him for being stretched too thin but can't you see how much the guy is trying to do for the city as the Green Arrow as well as the mayor? The whole team talks shit about and blames Oliver, conveniently ignoring their own mistakes. Whatever Oliver did he had every f ing right to (IMO at least) given the actions of his teammates. The only people I like and root for in this season are Oliver and Quinten.

This is probably just a rant but completely justified one after rewatching the pile of sh that is Season 6.