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I’m laughing my ass off at the opening.

Starman is dying and in his dying words,he’s being shady as hell.

Starman tells his sidekick, who’s tried to save him and wants to carry the legacy now the JS has fallen, only to say to his sidekick..

“No. Not you. Someone with grace and heroism. You can’t do it. Definitely, not you.”

I was like, what in the Disney-millennial-diss-narcissistic-asshole line is this?

Is this one of these shows where anyone who’s given birth is an idiot and everyone over the age of 7 has the maturity, intellect, and wisdom of… oh. As I type this. Yes, yes it is . It is a Disney superhero show.

So far I've been really loving the show. But I couldn't help but notice that about halfway through the episode Courtney is in class and the math teacher is talking about proper and improper fractions. She's in high school and he's teaching 3rd grade math. Seriously? I find these kinds of errors so obnoxious. Especially since the episode prior they said at the open house that the kids that graduate from their school are the top 1%. Uhhh sounds like they're a little behind... 🤔

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1. Why did the JSA Band up together again to fight the ISA in Christmas of 2010?

The Chemistry for the JSA had already been gone, and the show never mentions why they even had to come back together.

It’s not like they Knew about Project New America in 2010.

And 2. Did Artemis not get into college to become a starting Quarterback? If Shade Mentioned her as a Member of the JSA, how could she have had a star Football Career?

And just a small headcanon on my part. I believe that Jakeem eventually wished for the location to Sylvester’s brain, so they could bring up out of his comatose state.

So in an effort to justify a 45 year old man hanging out on a sub for teen superhero show I thought I'd share some of the comics that the show draws from in case anyone not familiar wants to check them out. The show does condense a couple of decades worth of comics so obviously things change in the adaptation, like Starman in the show is actually a mash up of two different characters from the comics (but we'll get to that), but some stuff is lifted whole cloth from the comics.

Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E (Geoff Johns 1999-2000) - So this is the comic that the show borrows its whole premise from. Courtney moves to Blue Valley with her new blended family, stumbles on a secret plot, finds out that her step dad is a former supehero and becomes the new Star Spangled Kid. The plot's different, a lot of the supporting cast is different, but it's the backbone for S1 of the show. It's fun and a pretty short read (it only lasted 15 issues).

JSA (James Robinson, David S. Goyer, Geoff Johns 1999-2006) - This is one of my favorites, the JSA comes out of retirement with a mix of older and younger heroes and it was one of their strongest selling books at the time. Courtney's a prominent character throughout and this is where she graduates from Star Spangled Kid to Stargirl after getting the staff from Starman Jack Knight, Jakeem Thunder plays a big role as well. It also functions as a kind of secret history of the DC Universe (at that time) as it sorted out the continuity after the reboot event Zero Hour. Also it contains the Black Reign story arc, which was a much better version of the Black Adam movie. It does continue on in one form or another after 2006, but that's the run you really should read.

All-Star Squadron & Infinity, Inc. (Roy Thomas, Dann Thomas 1981-1988) - I'm going to kind of count these as one series because they tie into each other closely. Squadron is a re-telling of DC's Golden Age, the premise is that FDR essentially federalizes the JSA and all the other superheroes/vigilantes into a mega-group to protect the country during WWII. The book mostly focuses are round lesser known heroes, but where it really ties into the show is the villains. Ultra-Humanite is a prominent baddie in the book, along with Brainwave and some of the other ISA members. Otherwise it doesn't relate too much to the show. Infinity, Inc. is where most of the show's supporting cast comes from. Basically the children and inheritors of the original JSA, now college aged, decide to start their own superhero team and it goes...not great..eventually they start getting things together under the tutelage of an adult Sylvester Pemberton, now going by the name Skyman. It also introduced Helix, Mr. Bones and an updated version of the ISA. I have a soft spot for these books, but admittedly the writing is pretty dated (actually even for the 80s, the writing is pretty dated) and they both got screwed over by 1986's Crisis on Infinite Earths but they're fun classic superhero stories and provide a lot of supplementary lore.

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Starman vol 2. (James Robinson 1994-2001) - Admittedly this book has little do with the show, but it's honestly one of the best superhero comics ever published and worth a read. Like I mentioned Starman in the show is mash up of two characters, Sylvester Pemberton and Jack Knight. This is Jack's story. Son of the original Starman, who invented the staff, it also prominently features The Shade and some other Golden Age characters, explores the legacy of the name Starman and the various heroes who've used it, and further dives into DC lore and history of the time. Like Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E it ties directly into the relaunched JSA series in 1999.

I came in with low expectations but now binged to season 2 and its insane how violent this show with kids is or am i tripping? Small ville would allude to peoples death but it would always be kind of a lie cause they would come back mostly but damn kids get murdered alot .

Anyone else find Ricks unfounded beef with Cameron to be crazy? It starts with him hating Cam out of nowhere, maybe its protectiveness over Court, but tbh that wasn’t set up with any prior scenes. And then progresses so him ignoring that Cam is very much a dark reflection of himself, a son of villains whose parents are taken from him inexplicably, without knowing he is related to a hero/villain. And it was especially crazy to me that with no prior beef or reasons set up, Rick just pulls up beside Cam, a guy who just lost his dad and already lost his mom, and decides the best thing to do is mean mug him while he is sad and painting a mural for his lost dad. I mean, just felt so wild wondered if it felt out of place to anyone else?

This is kinda a joke, kinda not but during S2 i started just thinking about Dr. Mid Nite's owl, like he was just chilling in the JSA headquarters in S1 but like who fed/feeds him and did Mcnider pick him up off screen after he returned? I NEED ANSWERS!!!!

The show is fun and just the right amount of corny, sweet and dark as a lighter fare show based on a comic character, but does the twist work or make any sense to you?

Why would a league of notorious murderous psychopaths who killed their own family members and the Justice League Society hatch such a ludicrous plan?

Stargirl and crew even thought it was a joke. Could you imagine the two villains sent to kill Courtney's mom as environmentalists and humanists?

Every time Brainwave (in costume) walks in or out of a scene I swear he has the gait/pose of a literal runway model

Has anyone noticed this or am I just seeing things???

(Genuine question, I am curious if anyone knows if the actor has any modeling history or something like that lol.

I actually think it's kind of an amazing juxtaposition between the "evil scientist" archerype he represents, and his costume just being the most amazingly fabulous one on the show (so far), bar none.)

I'm re-watching and just finished season 1, episode 11, in which Courtney's awful biological dad visits. I was once again reminded of the contrast between him and Pat, as well as Barbara, both of whom are just great parents to both Courtney and Mikey. Given how, at the series finale, it seems as though the identities of the JSA are publicly known, I would've like to have seen what her dad would've done once he found out who she really is. I mean, he got Courtney to give him her locket, the only she'd ever gotten from him. What would he have tried to get from her once he found out she's Stargirl?

So, I was wondering if any of you had a google drive link or mega link to watch Stargirl? I quit my Max subscription a few months ago due to the price c:

In the third episode of season 1 when Courtney saw Doctor Mid-Nite's owl, Pat said that the owl would immediately fly right to his arm, I thought that was going to have significance in the future, at least symbolically.

I really wanted to see Beth, after doubting herself as the new Doctor Mid-Nite, enter the JSA Hall for the first time and have the owl fly directly to her.

Would have been pretty cool imo. Or at least a reunion between Charles and his owl.

I just Read Jay Garrick issue 3. She has a very large role.

Just saw that Tubi added the entire series if you haven't watch it yet.

Sassy. Reckless. Impulsive.

The slow and low warbling sound it makes when it feels guilty. When you can tell it is at attention with the quick high warble.

This show man. Sad to see it go.

One thing I've noticed about the show is its tendency to randomly name-drop heroes from the comics as "former members of the JSA". While it may be endearing in the moment to some hardcore fans, every time they do it, I'm just always left asking the same question, how the heck did that JSA lose to the ISA?

Based on all the mentions, the past JSA had at least 20 members, including all the past versions of the current JSA, Dr Fate, The Flash, The Spectre, Green Lantern, The Atom, Sandman, etc. Clearly they were stacked to the brim, and you'd think they'd be unstoppable. Yet somehow, they lost to the 10 or so Injustice Society of America members at that time.

As far as we know, and according to the picture in the ISA lair, the ISA's roster was limited to: Icicle, Brainwave, Dragon King, Sportsmaster, Tigress, The Wizard, The Shade, The Fiddler, Solomon Grundy, and the Gambler. Now by no means are these people weak, but the Crocks should be fodder to some of the stronger members, the Gambler is fodder, and The Shade was playing both sides. And given that Stargirl's JSA managed to beat an ISA with 7 out of 10 of these people, the old JSA should've had no problem.

Now I know that not all of the referenced past JSA members were at the battle, and that some died earlier or later. But many of them are explicitly stated to have died in the battle between the JSA and the ISA (admittedly I don't know which ones exactly but most of them). Meanwhile the ISA had just 1 casualty, the Fiddler, which just doesn't add up.

Back in Season 1, it made sense that the ISA won, but then they retconned so many superheroes into the JSA, without considering the implications.

When Cindy Burman stabbed her dad did he really die? Because Courtney blasts Cindy in the face with Cosmo in season 1 during their first hero vs villain fight and Cindy healed so did Dragon King die or was it a fake out like Jordan's death was since Jordan came back in season 3. It's just something I've been wondering about after rewatching Stargirl for the 100th time.

I'm only a couple of episodes in but so far I'm finding the writing to be pretty bad. For example, roughly halfway through episode 2 Courtney questions why everyone is so willing to see the good in Jenny and says that she's skeptical because Jenny broke in to their house, to which everyone acts like it's an unreasonable stand to take. It's a god awful, ham-fisted way of drawing out some of Courtney's backstory. It's hard to take things seriously when they position a rational and logical point of view as being childish and mean.

Now, I'm not expecting Shakespeare or Scorsese here, hell I enjoy the arrowverse, Titans and Doom Patrol, so I'm willing to give this a chance, but I could do with the reassurance that it DOES get better.

https://youtu.be/J9QltpNZNLE?si=ulrT6_lALGs2MrK4

Review at (10:17) in link. What did you think?

She is in both the cover and synopsis for issue 2, and it comes out on Tuesday.

It's a real shame we've been in the dark for so long. The past couple of years it's been released on Amazon Prime around October time, but it's mid November now. There's not even a DVD release. It's a shame really.

(I want to watch legally, we also don't have Superman and Lois S3 or Doom Patrol S4 yet)