Thawne being in prison should only affect Cisco's powers, not threaten his life, right!? It's not like Thawne was responsible for Cisco's birth, only for making him a metahuman. And how does Thawnes presence affect just one person, and why is that person Cisco?

I’ve approximately watched this show for 19,710,000 minutes or 328,500 hours. Is this insane?

This show could have been so much better if they didn't pad it out like crazy with talking and Team Flash being morons. Could have been such a good setup for a 8-10 episode format.

It feels like a lot of the fights and capturing meta humans is set up to make Cisco seem useful. Like the fastest man alive with increased strength and perception cant beat just a regular sized guy who punches him, or has a cold gun, so now we need SCIENCE MAN TO SAVE THE DAY.

Defending bad writing and bastardization of characters with narrative and extending the plot can only go so far. CW Flash is somehow at the same time, the most powerful version of The Flash, but also the weakest and slowest, but then the fastest when he feels like it.

This is weaponized stupidity.

There are like, maybe 5 people in the entire 9 seasons who can canonically beat or go toe to toe with the flash, and its not some malnourished dude who makes clones of himself that just punch Barry. The amount of plot armour he gets through the show to fix the absolutely idiotic mistakes he had made, some of it can be put down to "he is learning" but come onnnnnnnnn.

In season 3 he threw a lightning bolt, then ran to the other side of it and got hit, but then season 8 he just stands there while a bolt of lightning, he threw flings into Iris. There is no doubt that he could have saved her, and if the writers had any spine they would make the death permanent to teach Barry a lesson for once in his life.

Many, many , many occasions he's allowed people to die, millions in property damage, or people to get really hurt, because he just YAPS too much. Canonically accurate Flash could beat 90% of the CW Rogue category, in maybe an hour, if he was feeling lazy. I know that doesnt make for interesting shows, or means that he just shows up and finishes fights with no action or narrative, but then you write to support that, create villians and scenarios that actually work, not just Barry forgetting he's a speedster

Caitlin and Eddie are the only two people of the original cast who didn’t get a happy ending (or the ending they deserved). Caitlin lost her husband, was unsuccessful in finding romantic love but then found sisterly love in Killer Frost. Then lost her too. Eddie killed himself to be a hero and erase Thawne from existence; only for his sacrifice to be made moot by Thawne to come back every single season. Then he gets brought back to life to become the Negative Speed Force Avatar. He eventually breaks the negative speed force’s influence, but is now forced to watch the love of his life live out her happily ever after with someone else. That…sucks. I would have rather stayed dead. None of his misfortune was a result of his actions (the same can’t be said for Caitlin because Frost would never had died if she’d just listened to the team about the black fires). At least Caitlin knew she was the most important person in both Ronnie’s and Frost’s lives; Eddie was brought back to life only to be told by future Iris that she was always in love with Barry, even when she was with Eddie.

Everyone talks about how the writers did Caitlin dirty (and they did), but I think Eddie got screwed over the most.

I can think of one. The hot one I can think of two people who will be in the discussion the two most major.

Im unsure when I’ll actually post because the answer was pretty obvious

This dude kidnapped earth 2 Barry locked him up and then when earth 2 joe on his death bed this bitch wants to be there instead of giving earth 2 Barry a final chance to say goodbye and make things right with Joe, his joe is perfectly safe on earth but this greedy self righteous hyp0crite always wants every moment for himself, fk u earth 1 Barry Allen

Watching on the itvx player at 33:36 minutes there is a noise sounds like an old woman grunting, did anyone hear that too or am i just going insane XD

Is it just me or was them bringing back reverse flash abunch of times just cw telling us were running out of ideas and yall like seeing tom cavanagh like I would have liked to see lobo or more king shark or even beast boy or teen titans that one a dream but was cw really running out of ideas.?

A while ago I started to think about which leads to Barry replacing himself by traveling in time, for example in Flashpoint, after Flashpoint, on his first time travel and when he traveled after the explosion created by vandal savage. In all those trips Barry replaced himself.

At first I thought it only happens if you go back to the exact moment you left, for example after Barry saved his mother and returned to the "present" there was not a Barry from Flashpoint and a pre-Flashpoint one because he returned to the exact moment when he left, regardless of whether it was another timeline. Or when he He undid Flashpoint, when he came back he also replaced himself, and it's because he didn't come back at the time when he created Flashpoint, He came back 3 months later the time he lived in Flashpoint. If he had come back right after the kiss with Iris (which never happened post-Flashpoint) maybe there would have been 2 Barrys because technically he went back in time.

But then I remembered his time travels when he tried to stop the tsunami and the Vandal Savage explosion. Perhaps the time to replace yourself is limited to one day and not exactly the moment where you left, because on both occasions Barry traveled one day back.

It would make sense if time remnants didn't exist. You can create remnants by traveling back a few seconds or even months (as in the case of zoom and "jay garrick")

Maybe the case of Vandal Savage and the tsunami was because since on both occasions he traveled in time accidentally, somehow the speedforce fixed that by eliminating the past version of Barry, and not cause any problems in the timeline, This can be seen by seeing how at the beginning there are 2 Barry and then you see how the other one is eliminated, in both cases the same thing happens.

That's my theory, what do you say?

Sorry for the spelling mistakes, I don't speak English

In episode 1 of season 3 flash is losing his memories or whatever and thawne tells him he now has to kill his mom. But why couldn’t Barry just write down a bunch of super important memories super fast on a paper with a note reminding himself of who he is and why he’s losing his memories, that way he could still know everything about his present and his past and literally do whatever he wants. There would be no cons to time travel

That quotes kinda related cuz Jigsaw and Savitar have the same voice actor anyway. I thought this would be a fun game to do so I’m curious who you guys will pick. So let the games begin! Who’s the fan favorite? I’ll give my pick at the next post and one with the most people agreeing win. Let’s start!

The Cicada of the comics is much better, it would be surreal to see a villain who absorbs people’s vital energy while setting up a cult and killing people that Flash saved

They threw everything away this season

I’m down with the idea that the Flash meets a future version of himself wearing a version of a suit that he will later wear. I get it, it’s cool. My problem is mainly that the effect it lessens because it’s only a couple episodes before he gets that suit anyway so it’s not really that “future” at least in terms of the audience. Like if we saw that in episode 3 that’d be a pretty satisfying amount of buildup, this is just a bit underwhelming.

I think a way to counteract this would be so have a different suit for this episode. Not like major changes but just maybe instead of gold accents it’s silver? Just something to be like “this is a dark timeline suit that you’ve never seen before and won’t see again” and then when he gets his suit in season 4 it’s like “oh cool this is the good timeline version of that suit”

I think it would’ve been pretty sick to have this alternate timeline Flash suit

Was the crisis Red have moving faster than the speed of light across the different universes?

Whe doesn't he have blue lightning?? His name is cobalt blue and they gave hin red lightning like some generic speedster villain of the week. They litteraly had Nora get blue lightning from the negative speedforce in the previous episode, so why couldn't he get it. I'm bothered by that till this day.

Season 2 spoilers. In the beginning of season 2, when thawne leaves Barry a confession, would that work? How would a dead guy’s one sentence confession to a crime related to someone he didn’t know until recently, with no discernible motive, be enough to overturn Henry’s conviction?

Thawne says he discovers they're supposed to be enemies when he time travels trying to find out who the Flash is. Okay but at some in the larger omega timeline, like all separate universes have their own timelines but the multiverse as a whole only has one, when time first happened and everything happened for the first time, before the very first instance of time travel, these events all played out chronologically. So what Thawne saw was just POSSIBLE futures, not set in stone, even though most of what he saw was in the past it was still future events for him. If he truly admired the Flash, if he truly wanted to help people. He would have helped Barry save that crowd, they would have worked together, we all know Barry would have and Thawne did too. but what he really wanted, even before he became a Speedster, was to be worshipped. Because he's just a pathetic, narcissistic, jealous, psychopath with a god complex. Also he thinks he's the smartest in the world in every timeline, yet was so stupid as to not think of the fact that going back in time to stop Barry from becoming the Flash would stop him from becoming the Reverse Flash, which by the way is what actually makes him a paradox, not Eddie killing himself.

She was scary, perfectly acted and the story line was awesome!

After Frost sacrificed herself in the Season 8 finale, it felt like a big moment. Her death was emotional, impactful, and a fitting conclusion to her character’s arc. But then, Season 9 comes around, and suddenly we’re being told that Frost’s resurrection wasn’t even really Frost. It was Khione, some nature goddess entity with vague powers and no real connection to Frost’s actual character.

It feels like the writers completely undermined Frost’s sacrifice by turning her death into a plot device to introduce a completely new character. Khione had zero emotional buildup, and instead of exploring the grief and fallout from Frost’s death, we get this bizarre, overpowered, and disconnected character.

Not only did this undercut the emotional weight of Frost’s farewell, but Khione also didn’t really contribute anything meaningful to the story. She didn’t have any real stakes, and we never got to see the old Frost — the character we grew to love — back in action. It was like they were just throwing out all the development Frost had gone through and replacing her with a different character entirely.

I get it, the show needed new characters and power-ups for the final season, but this felt like a lazy cop-out. Honestly, Frost deserved better.

Hi? I started up on watching this series and so far? Pretty good! Crossovers were a little shaky, but I've enjoyed them. I've made it up to Season Three, hence the spoiler tag.

Although I'm a little confused. Flash altered the timeline and caused Pide Piper to switch sides (loved that part tbh) yet he keeps altering it repeatedly in this season despite knowing of Time-Wraiths & Remnants. So what I'm asking is, when do things get back to 'normal' and why (out of universe) did the writers decide to go this route?