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Welcome to /r/SupermanAndLois, a subreddit about the TV series starring Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch. Discuss anything and everything about the show here.

Welcome

Welcome to /r/SupermanAndLois, a subreddit about the TV series starring Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch. Discuss anything and everything about the show here.

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Rule 1: Spoilers Mark submissions with a Spoiler Tag if it contains spoilers. Titles of posts cannot contain spoilers. Posts that do not comply with these will be removed. We consider any Superman & Lois episode aired within the past two weeks and a month for season finales spoilers, including other Arrowverse shows. Future leaks & content are considered spoilers, as are spoilers for other recent shows & movies.
Rule 2: No Low Effort Content Threads that are considered low effort are subject to removal at the mods' discretion. We will remove content completely unrelated to Superman & Lois and posts that are just to gain karma such as "Literally just a picture of...”. Shitposts that do not contain any substantial Arrowverse material fall under this, as do reposts and any sort of spam.
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Rule 4: Be Civil Any harmful, harassing or derogatory comments to or about other people, including usage of vulgar slurs will be removed. Inflammatory/offensive comments and stirring up drama are not allowed. Continued uncivil behaviour may result in a ban. Please remember to discern the difference between actors & their characters.
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9

Secret Identity in Season 4

When the residents of Smallville found out that Clark was Superman, why didn't he just kiss everybody in town to erase their memory?

8 Comments
2025/02/01
01:46 UTC

29

Made this collage of Tyler’s Superman from his time in the Arrowverse to Superman & Lois season 4. Can’t believe we’ve had him for 8 years.

I’m excited for what comes next for the character but I miss his Superman so much!

11 Comments
2025/02/01
01:05 UTC

22

Clark Forgives (spoiler)

The act of Clark forgiving Lex is not talked enough. It's so beautiful and soulful, showing truly what Superman is about.

4 Comments
2025/01/31
17:36 UTC

15

What is happening in episode 2 season 4 (SPOIL)

I just binge watched the whole show until s04e02. It was until now better and better, it never disappointed me too much. The characters are smart, make the right decisions, and I clearly had a good time. Plus, the writors put all their heart in the whole 3rd season, the five first episodes are.. Great. So here I am: starting from s04e02, everything just crashes so hard, to my mind. Why don't Nat and John help Superman, or even the boys after Supes is gone? It's like they don't exist anymore when they totally should be there. Then, why is it possible for Lex to keep that monster in an underground and just look after him through a metro wagon glass? Why are the rhythm and most of the lines soooo weird and off? (See the scene where Lois tells gramps about Jon having powers, who wrote that, who validated such a poor acting from Sam?) Am I the only one thinking this series died at this very moment? I'm expecting It to go back strong any minute now. It reminds me of Misfits, s04e01 when the show suddenly makes no sense anymore after reaching a state of the art season 3. I will conclude with that scene in which Jon gets his power. I am sorry it's doesn't work. The show was good to establish things slowly, surely, in a cohérent way. Okay "he's a natural" but getting all the powers in 15s. is too much for my small brain. I'm not in the show anymore, for now, and will continue watching it... Now ! I would be happy to have your opinion about this. 🤝🤝🙏🙏

26 Comments
2025/01/30
16:54 UTC

230

Facts

43 Comments
2025/01/28
21:07 UTC

53

They should've saved throwing Superman into the Sun for the final fight

At the end of season 2, in order to regain his powers and defeat Ally, Clark has Tal-Rho throw him into the Sun. It was an insanely badass moment, especially when he came speeding out. But I don't think that it was the right moment.

I get it. He got his powers taken away. The writers needed some way to let him regain them, and, honestly, I don't know what else he could've done.

He HAD to go INSIDE the Sun to regain them. He couldn't just wait and it would happen.

But when he can't beat Doomsday. OR Luthor. AND HE HAS A 60 YEAR OLD HUMAN HEART.

HE CAN JUST STAND THERE. AND HE'LL POWER UP AGAIN.

It felt like lazy writing, at least on the part of the S4 writers. I just think they should've waited to have him Sun-Dip until the finale.

32 Comments
2025/01/28
20:59 UTC

23

Season 3 appreciation post: refreshingly raw and realistic, and my wife and I can relate

Let me start off by saying that although the cancer subplot seemed overly long and drawn out at times, that's the way chronic illness is as well, and I'll tell you why we can relate.

My wife has a genetic illness (a type of ataxia) which not only gives her many seizures a month, but over the coming years will eventually cause such uncoordination that she will slur her words, have trouble with movement, and have difficulty walking that would require a walker and/or wheelchair. She's only 41. I myself have my own physical, mental, and emotional issues as well.

All that being said, the cancer subplot, although different to our situation, is very raw and had me super emotional, and my wife as well since she also lost her mom to cancer back in 2016.

It can be so frustrating to deal with chronic health issues even as a caretaker and feel powerless, even if you are Superman, and for me made Bruno Mannheim and Peia some of the best and most complicated superman villains I've seen to date because of how much I could relate, and while I don't agree, I can understand.

When Superman had Lois wear her red dress and they slowly flew up above the farmhouse, when they cuddled on the bed, when he was sitting beside her as she threw up in the toilet; all the small tender moments that I've had to do similarly with my own wife; it is had us both hugging and cherishing each other as we watched.

I've had to pick my wife up off the floor many times after she's had a seizure to put into a couch or on the bed Superman style after I've heard a thump of her passing out across the apartment when I've left her side for just a moment, or caught her before she's fallen if I've been near, and the feelings of powerlessness as she seizes and takes many minutes to recover made me really relate to Clark and Bruno, and Peias last moments where she couldn't control herself and Superman had to help her.... It was so raw and realistic.

To leave my wife to go to work is heart wrenching on the days she's having more seizures (it waxes and wanes with her cycle). No medication has worked perfectly for my wife (after 8 different meds), and Bruno's desperation to find a cure for Peia really resonated with me.

We haven't even finished the last few episodes of Season 3, which I'm guessing are Lex/Bizarro related, but if the season ended there it would have been a great wrapup for me.

1 Comment
2025/01/28
04:26 UTC

1

Question about season 4 ending

I want to first say the last 10 minutes of the finale is some of the greatest series ending television I've ever seen. It was perfect and I wouldn't change anything. My only question is could Superman had taken Bizarro's/ Doomsday heart? For some reason I thought when they brought him back for the last fight that Superman was going to end up with Bizarro's heart. Is that something that could've happened? Im also not as familiar with comics. How long does Superman and his sons live in the comics?

1 Comment
2025/01/28
07:25 UTC

57

Can we agree that this show is elevated from the typical CW fare because of the music, among other things? Now I'm wondering why only season one is on spotify....

Does anyone know if or when the additional seasons would be available on Spotify?

10 Comments
2025/01/27
01:16 UTC

0

Luthor

Why did they make Lex Luthor a biker, and give Bizzaro, Doomsday’s storyline? Besides that it’s a solid show. That dude from 2 and a half men was way better as Lex.

8 Comments
2025/01/26
23:16 UTC

0

Powers?

So I'm new to the show but I've been binge watching it and I'm on season 3 episode 12. 5 Minutes and 33 seconds in and I think I'm finally fed up with this show. Is there no one else in this universe that has superpowers? why do they keep on jumping whenever someone mentions anyone else with superpowers. This is getting very annoying it's like everyone is solely relying on Superman when there's so many other superheroes like where's my brother batman at. Speaking of batman Manheim really annoyed me when he just somehow some way just knew irons was the man of steal? He's acting as if batman couldn't make a suit for someone. If you're reading I just needed to vent 😭

10 Comments
2025/01/26
19:12 UTC

39

Am I the only one who loved season 2?

Season one was a bit meh for me, but steel made it interesting. It wasn't until bizarro's season though that I truly got invested in the show. I loved the inverse world, characters and bizarro. I wish we got to explore the world more.

19 Comments
2025/01/26
11:48 UTC

77

The finale... WOW!!!!!

The final season was a bit blah.... The re-use of Doomsday over and over and then Lex bored me tbh.

But the final scenes aka "The first time I died"... wow man! I'm a grown ass 45 year old man and I sat there crying my eyes out. When Lois passed I had to pause and walk away for a few mins cos I knew what was coming... And the red dress scene OMG writers bro you're killing me. Well done. I will miss the show! Tyler was an incredible Supes. In a few years will be a great re-watch. I tried to watch Supergirl but I just can't handle how campy and cheesy it is.

11 Comments
2025/01/26
02:27 UTC

41

Appreciation post for this show from a long-time Superman fan

FYI: SPOILERS BELOW!

I'm sure many people here feel the same way, but I think this show is terribly underrated. As someone who grew up on the Christopher Reeve films, loved Lois & Clark during the 90s, and enjoyed most of Smallville, Superman & Lois is my favorite depiction of these characters (sorry, really disliked Snyder's take on Superman). I can't remember the last time I felt this fulfilled and satisfied after a series finale.

I don't think this gets discussed enough, but it's refreshing to see Superman/Clark and Lois beyond their dating and "honeymoon" phase. We've seen plenty of stories of them flirting with each other, the sexual tension, the dating, the falling in love, the reveal that Clark is Superman, etc. (not to mention the dilemma of "does Lois love Clark or Superman"). I love how the opening 3-4 minutes of the pilot episode (one of my favorite scenes in all of television) beautifully captures the history of their relationship and establishes that we're going to see Superman and Lois in the next phase of their lives: Married and as parents of teenagers. There may be some personal bias here, but as a husband and father myself, I was able to resonate with many of the family themes this show touched upon. I'm also a therapist, so I appreciated the healthy parenting styles and emphasis on open and honest communication as well.

While the show didn't portray Lois and Clark dating (aside from flashback scenes), I thought it did a great job at showing the challenges that marriages can go through and how it's not always glamorous, yet still so precious and beautiful making choices to be there in solidarity with one another. There's an emotional maturity that this show promotes. One of the critiques I had about the Lois & Clark TV show is that the writers didn't seem to know how to write Lois and Clark after they got married (which is the case for a lot of TV shows). They only knew how to write them effectively when they were dating. Superman & Lois succeeds masterfully in giving these characters so much emotional depth and complexity post-marriage and as parents.

Would love to hear if others felt the same way! Btw, Tyler Hoechlin is my favorite Superman/Clark/Kal-El by far.

9 Comments
2025/01/25
20:12 UTC

6

Before "Superman and Lois", anything I should know?

Hi everyone,

I'm about to start Superman and Lois for the first time. I haven't watched any previous CW shows.
I actually thought this series wasn't related to those.

In preparation for this series, is there any show recaps I should watch online? Or anything I should read about to understand where the show is starting?

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks!

Edit: Question answered! Besides John Diggle (brought up by "jordanblueman", TY!), I don't need to watch any other CW show or their recaps.
I appreciate all the answers! I'm excited to get started :)

27 Comments
2025/01/25
05:50 UTC

12

I need more of this show

I finally finished the show and I gotta say, this has gotta be one of the best superman adaptions in recent years.

The show has so many great and likeable characters what with Clark, lois, jon, lex, john henry, and many more. Theres plenty of great hype moments and actions scenes too, they really managed to make the most of what they had imo.

It has its low points and share of bad writing (cough season 2 cough) but even at the worst of times the good far outshines the bad.

I dare say Tyler hoechlin has become my favorite actor to play the character even over the fantastic and legendary christopher reeves. I think he balances the strong and confident superman well with the dorky and kind clark kent. The show really understands how human he is and though he isn’t perfect he still tries his best which I really appreciate with so many evil supermans out there nowadays.

I just wish there was an extra season or 2 though I’m ultimately glad it ended on a high note with a great final season.

The series really did go by so fast.

5 Comments
2025/01/25
05:25 UTC

10

Sarah Season 4 episode 1 - SPOILERS

I don't hate her, but damn, she gets on my nerves.

Just like when she left out pertinent information in season 3 when her mom slapped her, she complains to her mom that Jordan was bragging about being a super hero, when she just stood there letting everyone make fun of his goggles.

6 Comments
2025/01/25
17:40 UTC

37

Why does nobody kill Lois?

I'm on 302 so be lenient with spoilers, please.

Every time Lois is investigating someone/some company, they have the capabilities to kill her. Edge, while still caring for his brother in some way, had the chance to kill Lois. Mannheim, in the episode that I'm on, has this interaction with his right hand man

Henchman: "The judge won't be a problem, sir."

Mannheim: "And Lois Lane?"

Henchman: "She's got nothing."

Why not just kill her? I get that she has relations with Superman, but, with the resources that Mannheim must have, it should be pretty easy.

Every time she's infiltrated a facility in some way, people have had the chance to kill her, but don't.

I'm just curious as to why, aside from "It's a show, it needs her to function"

71 Comments
2025/01/25
14:14 UTC

62

i just finished the show

and idk what to say the ending made me very emotional and it was so beautiful and it left me fulfilled which most shows don’t because there endings normally always suck but this ending i’ll never forget or this show in general it was such a masterpiece there wasn’t any seasons i didn’t like all the characters were amazing and it’s just one of the best shows i think i’ve ever watched

20 Comments
2025/01/24
11:24 UTC

42

It Went By So Fast S4E10

Lois actually lectures Luther‘s girlfriend Yvonne about not understanding what Luther was up to. She actually tells her “I told you so” he was out to destroy us. Isn’t that exactly what Bruno Manheim and his wife Peia told her, before she released him from prison. Lois was so arrogant and stupid and she put her family in harms way. Bruno and Pia saved their whole community from Lex Luther, and their reward was imprisonment and death. Seems as though Lois made so many bad decisions.

15 Comments
2025/01/24
02:13 UTC

9

Does anyone know what this hairstyle is called or what I should tell my barber to get this? Like, how long are the top and sides? "Asking for a friend"

2 Comments
2025/01/23
02:58 UTC

31

Just A Regular Guy S4 E7

I loved this episode. For the first 35 minutes it felt so uncomfortable watching him lie. Because that’s not what Superman does. But it led to a great ending.

2 Comments
2025/01/23
01:27 UTC

5

Confused, did he destroy the whole cube planet?

Season finale of S2. It looks like superman punched through the cube planet. Did he destroy it?

4 Comments
2025/01/23
00:17 UTC

211

Got this poster to celebrate the series, it truly went by so fast!

I decided to get this 11x17 poster to celebrate the series! This is one of my favorite comic book TV shows ever and I'm planning to get this signed by Tyler and Elizabeth at my local comic con in March (Knocking on wood that they don't cancel😭).

13 Comments
2025/01/22
19:20 UTC

38

i will miss this show

Dam i will miss this show i remember the first ep i watched i was so excited to watch another cw arrowverse show and this show was really good giving superman's personal life story , just wanted to say how time flies and shows come and go just like arrowverse came and went

6 Comments
2025/01/22
10:27 UTC

6

Fortress of Solitude

Doesn't it seem like Superman could at least scrounge up some second hand furniture to spruce the place up a bit?

0 Comments
2025/01/22
02:17 UTC

93

Sign

Benefit of having a wife who owns a sign making business. Like a lot of you the last episode hit me really hard, and I wanted something to remember it by. Going up in my home office.

4 Comments
2025/01/22
00:49 UTC

0

Giving Jonathan Powers was a big mistake.

People might have issues with this because they’re “ooga ooga I hate Jordan because he has realistic teenage mental health issues, this shows so over cw-ed!!” brained but factually I think this was an issue.

Issue 1: Jonathan. So much of Jon’s development was him learning to stop craving the powers like he did in season 2 and realise that he was still important without them.

Issue 2: Jordan. So much of his development in season 1-3 was him learning to handle his powers and be a hero, finally stepping out of his brothers shadow and his reputation as the “weird”, awkward kid he had been his whole life up to that point. This was lessened in season 3 due to the writers back peddling how capable they really wanted him to be.

Issue 3: The most in your face issue was the immediate manifestation and mastery of Jon’s powers. I would’ve been THRILLED to see him develop powers in a moment near the end, firing a loose laser off at doomsday similar to how Jordan developed his in season 1. But nope, no no. Because we’ve written Jordan into a difficult place and don’t have the time/budget to write a fulfilling character arc, lets give Jon all the powers all at once and show that its his “destiny” to be some hero so we can have him do all the things we want a Superboy character to do without dealing with any complex emotions.

26 Comments
2025/01/21
18:29 UTC

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