So, in the flash Lois and clark had only Jonathan. I could swear I saw a scene where clark and Lois sent Jonathan off before the crisis, he got lost and when he came back Jordan was there too.

But I haven't found that scene again, and in superman and Lois she was pregnant with both? Idk I'm so confused

I have just discovered he plays Superman in other episodes of Arrow etc and Crisis Earth?

I want to watch only these episodes, so can someone tell me which episodes of which series to stream to do this?

Tyler is an exceptional actor, and his Superman portrayal is among the greatest, in my opinion. I'd love to see him join the DC Universe in some capacity. Notably, he'd make an excellent Bruce Wayne/Batman. Interestingly, he previously auditioned for the role in Batman v Superman, which ultimately went to Ben Affleck. Your thoughts?

Remind me how Bruno brought back bizarro

Why did Milton stage the car accident

I personally did not like that Lois was able to get through to Bizarro-Doomsday and convince him to leave the Kent family alone after he already killed Superman and Sam Lane in Episode 4. It, IMO felt anticlimactic to how threatening he is.

However, now that he’s back in Episode 9 and fighting an already weakened Superman in an even more powerful form, I really hope his defeat is handled with care and does not result in something anticlimactic.

From the trailer of the series finale, it seems heavily focused on Superman vs Lex, so I’d imagine Doomsday is defeated pretty early on in the episode. The most logical route seems to be he’ll be reverted back to Bizarro and sent home in some way, shape or form, given that it’s already been set up that there’s still a part of him underneath the monster.

I just think that would be really disappointing if that’s done. Or if he’s defeated in some other way, because obviously, Superman can’t beat him physically. I’m hoping there will be another solution than appealing to his inner self.

Thoughts?

I hope longer than 42 mins it should atleast be as long as the pilot episode in my opinion.

Grew up as a 90s kid with Superman The Animated Series and Justice League as my "Definitive" Superman take. The Donner films were in my lexicon but were much more-so my Dad's Superman. I enjoyed Superman Returns, but it didn't feel quite right. I didn't think a "Legacy-Sequel" at that time was the move to make.

Possibly a hot-take...but I absolutely LOVE virtually everything about Man of Steel. It has aged like a fine wine. BvS: Dawn of Justice isn't perfect, but Snyder's Cut of Justice League is ALMOST as great as MOS.

I never was into Smallville, or any of the Arrowverse stuff(I gave it a shot, ultimately a little too cheap feeling, a little too hammy in execution, and far too much crossover/multiverse nonsense to track)

BUT I've consistently heard great things about Superman & Lois. Every now and then I'd catch a gif or small snippet posted showing off a really strong visual aesthetic(Production value is often where Superhero shows lack significantly)...and people kept praising the writing.

I'm 8 episodes in and I am REALLY digging the hell out of it so far.

I find MOS to be the ultimate "Cinematic Origin Story" for Superman in the modern era in terms of hitting all of those notes. I love that S&L neatly jumps into a "Married with children" Superman story, while retaining so many of the sort of modernized hallmarks laid out in MOS like an AI Jor-El and the overall vibe of the suit.

They've gently woven in the concept of a "multiverse" into the show already...which almost positions this series as this cool "alternate timeline" follow-up or complementary companion piece to the epic origin of MOS. Almost like you can watch that film as this epic introduction, and this move to this sort of "altered aesthetics" series as a follow up. I could picture Cavill and Adams acting out these scenes and scenarios.

I'm almost glad that the opinion of most is that the series hasn't been kept around long enough. I'd much rather see something end while it is still great than go one or two seasons too long and lose its quality, wearing out its welcome like 99% of most shows.

I think this series will age well and continue to be well regarded for years to come as one of the best modern cinematic portrayals of Superman.

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this is also the highest the viewership has been the entire season, what do u guys think the reason for this could be

Personally, I only have seven wants for the finale:

1. Bring back Tal-Rho somehow.
2. Mention Batman just once or have him appear

(I’M DELUSIONAL!). Maybe a Flash cameo? 🗿 3. Put Jordan and Sarah back together. 4. Jordan and Jonathan finally get their Superboy suits. 5. Clark and Lois retire and grow old together, while the Superboys take up the mantle. Clark could still get his powers back eventually, but not in the ending. 6. Have a time jump epilogue. 10 years later, maybe? 7. Introduce Krypto as the show’s final twist.

This story line has me confused. Maybe I missed something.

Lois wrote a story that indicated Lex was guilty. Wouldn’t there be a trial and jury which sentenced Lex. In which case Lois didn’t send him to prison directly. Why isn’t Lex going after the judge and jury.

Just to be clear, I don't hate Lois but I'm just so happy to see someone call her out.

So I just re-watched "To Live And Die Again", and words cannot properly express just how cathartic it feels for SOMEONE to call Lois out on freeing Luthor. I've been saying this all season, Lois and Clark share partial responsibility for Luthor's actions since they were the ones who exonerated him

Luthor was in prison where he couldn't really do anything to harm Lois, her family, or anyone. Yes, he was sentenced for a crime he did not commit, but he was guilty of a thousand other crimes he was never convicted for which they know for a fact, and yes Bruno did confess, however he confessed to every other crime as well, so they could have very easily kept quiet about the once specific crime and allowed Luthor to remain in prison, while also keeping Bruno to prison as well.

Luthor got out, because Clark and Lois decided it was unethical to send Luthor to prison for a crime he didn't commit, even though he was guilty of a thousand other crimes, and they knew first hand for themselves, and from Peia he is the devil. In all honestly their moral myopia is just astounding at this point.

What's worse is that Lois won't even acknowledge how idiotic a move this was, insisting it was the right thing to do. Lois even states in this episode that she, she, couldn't live with putting away Luthor for a crime he didn't commit. She cared more about easing her guilt, then she did about keeping a monster in prison.

Sorry about this rant I had a long day, and just to be clear again I don't hate Lois, but her freeing Luthor and not even being able to admit how moronic it was, is just so freaking aggravating.

What’s he been up to in Weird Smallville? It’s the only plot thread they haven’t finished. In 409 they mention Clark and the boys aren’t strong enough and the Doomsday was trying to get back to his Earth, so there’s setup to go there and bring him back. I really hope they bring back Tal for the finale, he’s my favorite character.

I just want to take a moment to appreciate how well Superman & Lois handled the setup for Superman and Lex Luthor’s dynamic. The writers could have gone the classic route of immediately establishing them as direct rivals, but they took a more nuanced and compelling approach. By having Lex target Lois, the series added a deeply personal and emotional layer to their conflict.

Superman wasn’t just defending himself or his ideals—he was protecting Lois and their sons from a very real and immediate threat. This shift in focus made their dynamic feel more intense, as Lex wasn’t just challenging Superman; he was threatening his family, his sanctuary, and everything he holds dear.

The writers deserve huge credit for not only honoring the core of Superman and Lex’s rivalry but also adding fresh stakes that kept me on the edge of my seat. Instead of the usual ideological battle between the two, we saw Superman’s vulnerability as a husband and father come to the forefront. It’s a testament to how well this series balances high-stakes drama with heartfelt family moments.

Kudos to the cast and crew for delivering such a gripping take on one of the most iconic dynamics in comics. What did you all think of the way Superman & Lois handled Superman and Lex this season?

In the new episode his mother tells him that because John and Jordan are half human they will not be able to become as powerful as him

But earlier in this series Jor-El said that they were scanned as babies and showed no sign of having any super abilities. Then we see Jordan does in fact have powers. Jor-El then says yeah but these are random occurrences and he will never be able to use these powers on command because his Human DNA is too limiting. This is shown to be false again after both Jordan and John develop their abilities much further than Jor-El said was possible and they have complete control.

Lois also mentions in the episode that they also claimed it wasn’t even possible for them to have kids.

They clearly don’t seem to understand how Human/Kryptonian hybrids work, yet when Clark’s mother tells him “they will never be able to be as powerful as you” Clark just says yeah they’ve been wrong every time but this time is different?

So I was playing catch up on the last two episodes and I saw the Jonathan and Candice drama in 4x08.

I’m sorry, he should have cut his losses. The girl has been more trouble than he deserves.

It’s only been 3 and a half years but it feels so long ago since watching the premiere. That was a fun time that night.

“It all went by so fast”

I’m thankful for this show. Happy thanksgiving everyone

Back in 2021 I didn’t hear anything about this show and only recently in the past few months, I had got clips showing up on TikTok and YouTube and I thought I’d give it a chance. Wow… so far so good, I can only imagine it getting better. Idk what the general idea of this show is as I don’t want to spoil too much more by reading the subreddit but when I catch up I’ll be here.

This is a CW show. It has no right to be as good as it is. The best representation of Superman since Superman:TAS

Spoilers for episode 4x03. So General Lane is in his office and then Jones walks in, shoots him in the stomach, and runs out. And Lane is left on the floor bleeding out. You telling me NOBODY heard that gun shot? People working for the US ARMY don’t know what a gun shot sounds like?! And the door was left WIDE OPEN!! Make it make sense!! Also why didn’t he scream out for help? I’m sure if you’re shot in the stomach, you can still talk (he literally talked to John Henry Irons right after) so why not scream out “I’ve been shot!!”

After watching the final trailer, here's a working theory on what is in store for the boys in the series finale.

Scenes featuring the boys in the trailer are as follows:

• Lois tells Clark that his sons live in the real world and he needs to learn to depend on them
• Clark flying off, leaving the boys on the track behind the football field
• The boys flying through a forest while Lex is in pursuit
• Lex strangling Jordan while calling him weak like his mother

Perhaps the most important part is a scene of Jordan hugging Jon and begging him not to leave and Jon promising that he won't. This is followed by a wide shot of them in what appears to be the Pomono hotel where Lex previously resided.

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While some have speculated that Jon sacrificed himself and is on the verge of death in the scene, it seems unlikely as Jon is sitting upright with no obvious sign of injuries. Additionally, Jon promises Jordan that he won't leave Jordan as opposed to saying that he'd "always be with him". This is how things will play out instead:

1. Jon and Jordan keep Lex occupied while Clark executes the plan formed with JHI and Lana.
2. Lex gets the upper-hand over Jordan and goes to kill him. Jon tries to save his brother only to get attacked and knocked through the wall of the hotel (as seen by the hole in the image above).
3. Jon initially appears to be grievously injured or even clinically dead which leaves Jordan distraught, but Jon is resuscitated by the sunlight which then leads to the scene from the trailer.