/r/Zaregoto

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A series of nonsense; written by NisiOisiN

This subreddit is for the discussion of the Zaregoto Series and its spin-off series (Ningen Series, Saikyou Series, etc) written by Nisio Isin. You're free to post fan art, pictures, merch, and news relating to Zaregoto.

Just have fun with it. It's all nonsense anyway.

Suggestions for posting

  • Mark NSFW appropriately
  • Tag your spoilers with "[Spoilers]" in the title
  • Try to source any fan art or cosplay that you post
  • Do it in the comments if you can't do it in the title/link

Header art used with permission by 真田ジューイチ & edited by /u/adinel_

/r/Zaregoto

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Strangulation - reason for leaving x over y at crime scene?

I understand that it was Mikoko's birthdate reversed in the mirror but I fail to understand why she would do this anyways. It's one thing that she wants to leave a clue at the crime scene, even if it's not really helpful, but why her birthdate? It's neither useful for detectives nor achieves anything for herself. Is it simply nonsense???? Is this one big Zaregoto inside pun intended prank???

1 Comment
2024/04/20
15:37 UTC

4

What's the read order for the ningen series and the zerozaki mangas

1 Comment
2024/03/30
15:00 UTC

9

Rank the zaregoto series volumes by worst to best

18 Comments
2024/03/28
13:51 UTC

9

Are there any plans to translate the 10th volume

4 Comments
2024/03/26
12:11 UTC

1

Where to read zaregoto for free ?

I readed vol 1 and 2 but i cant find the other 😭. Pls help

5 Comments
2024/03/25
20:22 UTC

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Jun is unironically Nietzsche ubermensch.

Nisho said before that he wrote Jun with the the question of "who is the strongest" in his mind which might have brought him to a similar personification to Nietzsche's Idea ( I doubt it is intentional)

Beyond good and evil.

He who climbs upon the highest mountains laughs at all tragedies, real or imaginary.

The Übermensch shall be the meaning of the earth.

There are more simlters between the two texts but I'm busy and not gonna go over the books now.

2 Comments
2024/03/19
22:36 UTC

4

Psycho Logical part two reference

Anyone knows what Ii refers to as “ la benshing case ” and “ button of a white blouse was ripped ” both being about cadaveric spasms upon death. Researched some but couldn’t find anything

0 Comments
2024/03/17
15:12 UTC

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First person pronoun used by Kunagisa Tomo in Japanese

Re-watching the anime adaptation of Kubikiri Cycle, one random thing that stuck out to me was the first person pronoun used by Kunagisa Tomo. I haven't come across any discussion about this aspect which is understandable since the LN is much more popular than the anime and this nuance gets lost in the English translated version of the novels because every first person pronoun in Japanese gets translated to the English pronoun "I"

Anyway, in the anime adaptation Kunagisa Tomo uses "Boku sama chan" as the first person pronoun when referring to herself which feels weird to me on multiple levels.

My knowledge of Japanese is extremely basic so please correct me if I'm wrong but from what I understand a) boku is largely used by males or tomboyish females and Kunagisa fits neither of those. b) She uses two honorifics (sama and chan) which is also unusual because as far as I know only one honorific is usually used. c) The two honorifics that Kunagisa uses convey almost completely opposite sentiments. -sama as an honorific for a first person pronoun is usually used by people who are arrogant or have a very high view of themselves while -chan is used to refer to oneself in a childlike or cute manner.

Can someone explain all of this to me? Also, can we derive any deeper meaning into Kunagisa's character and how she views herself based on this?

4 Comments
2024/03/12
20:25 UTC

2

Volumes 7 and 8 suck

After reading Cannibal Magical last year, I tried really hard the volumes after. I ended up finishing volume 7 and getting half way through 8.

Nisio succumbed to his weird writing quirks, stepping down from the psychological and murder mystery aspects, and focusing on giving his characters weird powers.

Volumes 6 and 2 were by far my favorites and I just can’t help but think how great Zaregoto could’ve been if he just stuck with the formula he had with the first 3 volumes. Do you think it’s worth it for me to finish Uprooted Radical?

5 Comments
2024/03/11
21:33 UTC

11

Whats your favourite monologue from strangulation?

6 Comments
2024/03/07
05:40 UTC

6

Random Question

What was the deal with x/y mirror thingi? I didn't get it at all

2 Comments
2024/03/01
10:37 UTC

24

I made a video reviewing volume 3 of Zaregoto! Part 3 of the video series.

1 Comment
2024/02/24
19:13 UTC

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Is Kubitsuri High School generally not well liked within the fandom?

I've read it twice now, from what I can tell it seems to be a bit of a black sheep within these novels, but I think it's really fun. Definitely different, not as good as Kubishime that's for sure, while the "mystery" of this one was kinda weak and very predictable. It succeeded at being a very funny novel that's easy to read and has great character interactions. Definitely further developed Aikawa and Ii's friendship as well, and I really like Hime as a character.

But what does the community as a whole think about it?

4 Comments
2024/02/24
12:18 UTC

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Ningen volume 1 almost became lost media!

For those who don't know, the ningen series is a spinoff from Zaregoto focusing on the zerozaki family and various other criminals causing havoc in the world. Chapters 1-8 of volume 1 were translated by tarable translations on WordPress but have since been deleted for no reason and with no warning. Luckily, I downloaded these chapters before that happened! The rest of the volume can be found translated on translations. Anyone let me know if you want to read them and I will give you the Google Drive link.

I swear Nisioisin is cursed to have abandoned and neglected translations.

4 Comments
2024/02/15
10:53 UTC

6

Audio drama's

So are the audio dramas on YouTube official? Does anyone know the story behind them

1 Comment
2024/02/08
19:22 UTC

56

Thank you Isin

6 Comments
2024/02/02
19:16 UTC

8

Question about Kunagisa + Ii

I was just wondering if any of you guys have theories about their backstory and the "event" of six years ago they keep talking about. I just completed the novels, I loved it, but I just want to satiate that curiosity a bit. Also anything about Ii's backstory would be appreciated

6 Comments
2024/01/24
07:22 UTC

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new Monogatari...

here's me hoping that the new Monogatari anime announcement causes a domino effect that leads to those book seasons getting official English translation which leads to more NISIOISIN attention which somehow leads to the rest of Zaregato getting official translation so i can keep filling up my NISIOISIN bookshelf : D

unlikely as hell but plz...

2 Comments
2024/01/20
09:44 UTC

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Re: Zaregoto v4 re-translation full release

Hey again,

Right after publishing v4, I read it again and noticed multiple errors. I fixed them up and re-uploaded it to my WordPress. If you downloaded the previous version in the meantime, I suggest you download the newer version. Everything's in the same place on my site.

Cheers,

Dutch

4 Comments
2024/01/17
12:01 UTC

3

Subs Not Dubs, Iichan! by Z. Salieri (Z-chan Presents: Sugarpunk Apocalypse!)

Inspired by the narrative style of NISIOISIN and the brilliance of the Zaregato murder mystery style. With some extra influence from Alan Wake and Sam Lake~ second song from Z-chan Presents: Sugarpunk Apocalypse! https://open.spotify.com/album/18GgWUIjqJLzX5vqqcQBB6

0 Comments
2024/01/01
23:43 UTC

7

Why is the final line missing? (Kubishime Romanticist)

Ordered the first couple books a few days ago, they finally arrived, but I noticed that on the last page of the Kubishime Romanticist, It just ends with "Don't be so spoiled" and then the afterword. My Del Ray ebook copy ends with the easy love, easy no line. I haven't seen anyone else mention this. Did Vertical not include the line? Am I just fucking stupid?

2 Comments
2023/11/30
00:46 UTC

0

Would anybody be interested in a machine translation of volume 10?

I was thinking of trying a bunch of different translators and methods to make a good english translation of volume 10, would anybody be interested?

12 Comments
2023/11/06
01:13 UTC

2

Question about V1

For those who know, is rigor mortis really stiff enough for a body to be able to serve as a stepping stool to escape through the window?

Basically, how possible is it that rigor mortis is used the way it is in Decapitation?

2 Comments
2023/10/29
11:11 UTC

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Some more Ningen translations, v10 extras

https://zhhtranslations.wordpress.com/

It includes the final few chapters of Ningen 1, the first two chapters of Ningen 7 and the precepts from Zaregoto 10 and its bookmarkers. No plans for other volumes so far, while Ningen 7 should be getting around a chapter a month.

6 Comments
2023/10/25
18:26 UTC

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I HAVE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION LOL

ok, so i just finished volume 5, i’m currently sitting on the floor and contemplating, and i think i got everything but there’s something i want to know;

WHAT WAS THE BLACKMAIL ON TOMO??? was it revealed in the text subtly and i missed it because subtext isn’t something i’m great at catching? will it be revealed in one of the future novels i haven’t read yet? will it ever be revealed at all? if anyone knows, or has any fun theories they want to share, please do let me know!!

my two main guesses would have been:

  • some kind of affair scandal, being that she’s from a prominent family a detail like that getting out would likely be pretty big.
  • ok i know this is probably just me speaking from the lens of a trans person, but i was picking up on some stuff that led me to maybe think she could have been born a boy? being that the nonsense user talked several times about “the time before he knew tomo was a girl”, and having messed up and referring to her with male honorifics, plus the blackmail being something specifically to do with her birth? being that i know there’s another character in the series who isn’t aligned with their sex @ birth i don’t think it’s completely impossible, but i’m also not great at character interpretation especially since nonsense user’s narration tends to be kind of mysterious and vague lol.

ANYWAY thank you in advance for any replies and theories, and if you ever want to talk about zaregoto feel free to hit me up!

2 Comments
2023/10/24
23:21 UTC

2

Does Zaregoto has manga?

I have seen some panels, but Idk if these are part of the LN or are something else?

I haven't read the novel yet, only finished the anime. I'm waiting to end first Monogatari novels to start zaregoto.

3 Comments
2023/10/19
16:09 UTC

4

Broken Nonsense

hey so I’m currently reading zaregoto’s 7 volume and I have a moment that caught my attention. When II first meets with Noise, guy says that II’s nonsense won’t work because Noise ain’t got no specific name just like Akane from volume 1. Will this moment be explained later or it just erases there?

3 Comments
2023/10/06
14:53 UTC

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