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Lutheran Music

Episcopalian here. I'm auditioning for a musical director/organist Position tonight. I've already met and played for pastor and his welife the deacon and they like me. What should I play for the music committee? I was going to do win Feste Burg mashed into a modulation to Crown Him with Many Crowns as my showy piece and play some stuff from their playlist with which I'm super familiar .

It's a suburban NJ congregation if that helps

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2024/12/02
13:02 UTC

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Does anybody have any pdf files of works by Bo Giertz?

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2024/12/02
04:30 UTC

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Do Lutherans believe in the intercession of the Saints?

Why or why not?

Edit: have you ever tried praying to Saints yourself?

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2024/12/01
16:40 UTC

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Reflections on Scripture with Dr. Curtis E. Leins. “The sorrowful Savior,” (Lk 19:28–40.) American Lutheran Theological Seminary.

URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZrfuc4vnE

Gospel According to Luke, 19:28–40 (ESV):

The Triumphal Entry

And when he had said these things, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. When he drew near to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount that is called Olivet, he sent two of the disciples, saying, “Go into the village in front of you, where on entering you will find a colt tied, on which no one has ever yet sat. Untie it and bring it here. If anyone asks you, ‘Why are you untying it?’ you shall say this: ‘The Lord has need of it.’” So those who were sent went away and found it just as he had told them. And as they were untying the colt, its owners said to them, “Why are you untying the colt?” And they said, “The Lord has need of it.” And they brought it to Jesus, and throwing their cloaks on the colt, they set Jesus on it. And as he rode along, they spread their cloaks on the road. As he was drawing near—already on the way down the Mount of Olives—the whole multitude of his disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen, saying, “Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord! Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!” And some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, rebuke your disciples.” He answered, “I tell you, if these were silent, the very stones would cry out.”

Overview

Introduction: A word of judgment

Point two: The savior wept

Point three: Blessed is the king

Conclusion

References

Gospel According to Luke, 19:1–27 (ESV):

Jesus and Zacchaeus

He entered Jericho and was passing through. And behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus. He was a chief tax collector and was rich. And he was seeking to see who Jesus was, but on account of the crowd he could not, because he was small in stature. So he ran on ahead and climbed up into a sycamore tree to see him, for he was about to pass that way. And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, hurry and come down, for I must stay at your house today.” So he hurried and came down and received him joyfully. And when they saw it, they all grumbled, “He has gone in to be the guest of a man who is a sinner.” And Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor. And if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I restore it fourfold.” And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, since he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”

The Parable of the Ten Minas

As they heard these things, he proceeded to tell a parable, because he was near to Jerusalem, and because they supposed that the kingdom of God was to appear immediately. He said therefore, “A nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and then return. Calling ten of his servants, he gave them ten minas, and said to them, ‘Engage in business until I come.’ But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’ When he returned, having received the kingdom, he ordered these servants to whom he had given the money to be called to him, that he might know what they had gained by doing business. The first came before him, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made ten minas more.’ And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant! Because you have been faithful in a very little, you shall have authority over ten cities.’ And the second came, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made five minas.’ And he said to him, ‘And you are to be over five cities.’ Then another came, saying, ‘Lord, here is your mina, which I kept laid away in a handkerchief; for I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man. You take what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’ He said to him, ‘I will condemn you with your own words, you wicked servant! You knew that I was a severe man, taking what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow? Why then did you not put my money in the bank, and at my coming I might have collected it with interest?’ And he said to those who stood by, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to the one who has the ten minas.’ And they said to him, ‘Lord, he has ten minas!’ ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

Acts of the Apostles, 4:11–12 (ESV):

This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Gospel According to John, 3:16–18 (ESV):

For God So Loved the World

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Second Letter of Peter, 3:9 (ESV):

The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

Gospel According to Luke, 19:41–44 (ESV):

Jesus Weeps over Jerusalem

And when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it, saying, “Would that you, even you, had known on this day the things that make for peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. For the days will come upon you, when your enemies will set up a barricade around you and surround you and hem you in on every side and tear you down to the ground, you and your children within you. And they will not leave one stone upon another in you, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”

Book of Zechariah, 9:9 (ESV):

The Coming King of Zion

Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your king is coming to you; righteous and having salvation is he, humble and mounted on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Gospel According to John, 12:13 (ESV):

So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, “Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!”

Book of Psalms, 118:26 (ESV):

Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD! We bless you from the house of the LORD.

Gospel According to Matthew, 24:1–2 (ESV):

Jesus Foretells Destruction of the Temple

Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

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2024/12/01
16:07 UTC

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New church member

How do I learn more about Lutheranism, read my Bible, grow in my faith with God, and participate more in my local congregation?

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2024/12/01
09:43 UTC

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Liturgy

Could anyone point me to the liturgical appeal of the lutheran church? I am anglican, do you have anything comparable to our book of common prayer? Do you have collections of beautiful prayers? Is there a lutheran hymnal?

12 Comments
2024/12/01
05:31 UTC

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Do you pray the Jesus Prayer?

Repeating:

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

or,

"Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me."

Some people simply repeat "Lord Jesus" or just "Jesus."

17 Comments
2024/12/01
00:48 UTC

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What to expect at church

Hello! I am going to a Lutheran church for the first time this Sunday, what are the services usually like? I know absolutely nothing about Lutheranism, so I don’t know what to expect.

Also, how should I dress? I am 21f, grew up pentecostal, converted to the LDS church a 3 years ago but am since regretting that decision and an looking for a new church

Edit: also could someone give me a rundown on what separates Lutheranism from other denominations? Or what the core beliefs are?

25 Comments
2024/11/30
06:31 UTC

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Pouring vs sprinkling difference?

Hello!

I've never understood what is meant by "sprinkling" in baptism. All baptisms I've witnessed have been with the priest cupping his hand and laying his hand on the baby's head, kind of pouring it over. How is it done when sprinkling? Or if what I described is sprinkling, what then is pouring?

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2024/11/29
20:36 UTC

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Hi, im a fellow lutheran and i have a serious question. Can i date my godmothers son or is that in some way against our belief?

Please let me know because i really like him and were not in any way blood related or anything like that my mother was just a good friend of his mother.

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2024/11/28
23:49 UTC

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Is there any reason not to pin a palm cross to the wall at home?

I still have the palm cross from Palm Sunday. It's been on a pile of books on my nightstand since Holy Week. I'd like to use it as a wall cross while I weigh my options for acquiring a more permanent wall cross.

My question, more specifically, is whether there's any reason I can't pin it, tape it, or whatever it takes to get it to stick to the wall for a few months.

15 Comments
2024/11/28
19:49 UTC

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I was misunderstood in a previous post

I wrote earlier that I was hoping to be accepted at the local congregation I attend, but that it seemed that worldly politics had too much grip on the family gathered there. I mentioned I was a Kennedy Democrat. Please note that I'm a "John and Robert" Kennedy Democrat, not the individual who is currently active in politics by the moniker of Jr.

I will try to determine how to keep myself from being misunderstood. That's all I can say about that.

I look in politics and social action for those votes, elections, folks, and issues best representing at least a shadow of the Biblical Model represented in Jesus' Kingdom. That's all I'll say about that too. Unfortunately at my congregation, they find it most easy to just ignore God of the Old and New Testament about values, living in faith with fellow children of The Father, and more.

Evaluating a church over the past 4 decades I've followed the following 3 criteria: Do they actually Love. Next, do they worship the God of Scripture, not just their own favorite version. Finally, How do they explain how to act within #2. Thus Love, Theology, Doctrinel Most churches I've been to start with #3.

The peace of Christ to all who are disciples of the Suffering Servant.

love in Him,

gregory

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2024/11/28
06:12 UTC

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Struggling with sin

How do we know we have true faith snot are not fakers if we struggle with repeated sins?

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2024/11/28
04:47 UTC

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Im so conflicted on why Martin Luther made such a heretical statement that Jesus was having intercourse with Mary Magdalene like ive been a Lutheran all my life and I just cant bring myself to believe that luther would say something like this is there truth to this?

Is it true?

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2024/11/28
01:35 UTC

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An idea...

So I'm looking for friends who are of a Lutheran persuasion. I live in western Pennsylvania, USA (just north of Pittsburgh), and am curious how many Lutheran young adults there are around me. If any of you lovely people are also from the Pittsburgh area, would you be interested in forming a group for fellowship? Lmk if you're interested!

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2024/11/27
21:06 UTC

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What was Lutheranism called during Martin Luther’s time?

I can’t imagine he would’ve accepted it being called “Lutheran.”

31 Comments
2024/11/27
15:55 UTC

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Prayer request.

Pray for me, my brothers in Christ, for i have sinned once again. Lust has consumed my heart. After months, once again, i went along with the pleasures of the flesh. How can i gain courage once again to pray? Feeling totally destroyed.

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2024/11/26
13:19 UTC

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Concordia Publishing House Black Friday Sale

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2024/11/26
03:52 UTC

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Happy (Belated) Reformation Day

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2024/11/25
00:48 UTC

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Advent Devotionals

Are there any old Christmas/Advent devotionals that I could find online in the public domain? Short devotional readings from the Lutheran tradition for each day in the advent season?

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2024/11/24
01:29 UTC

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Reflections on Scripture with Dr. Curtis E. Leins. “Be on the alert,” (Mk 13:24–37.) American Lutheran Theological Seminary.

URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHavMWTNkQw

Gospel According to Mark, 13:24–37 (ESV):

The Coming of the Son of Man

“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then he will send out the angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.

The Lesson of the Fig Tree

“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates. Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

No One Knows That Day or Hour

“But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come. It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to stay awake. Therefore stay awake—for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or in the morning—lest he come suddenly and find you asleep. And what I say to you I say to all: Stay awake.”

Overview

Introduction: Santa’s coming

Point one: These are the facts

Point two: The fig tree

Conclusion: Therefore be on the alert

References

Gospel According to John, 1:14 (ESV):

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Nicene Creed (From: The Commission on Worship of The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod. 2006. Lutheran Service Book Pew Edition. St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House):

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of His Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried. And the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures and ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. And He will come again with glory to judge both the living and the dead, whose kingdom will have no end.

Gospel According to Mark, 13:10 (ESV):

And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all nations.

Gospel According to Mark, 13:25 (ESV, Interlinear Bible):

and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken (saleuthēsontai).

First Letter of John, 4:9–10 (ESV):

In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

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2024/11/23
11:21 UTC

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Young Pastor and Family with No Young People at Church

I am a young lutheran pastor (in a more traditional stream) with a young family. One thing I notice is that in my denomination and in many other Lutheran synods, there is frequently a young pastor (under 35) and his family in a church made up almost exclusively of people 68+. Most young pastors are discipled and sent into ministry from some of the few larger multi-generational churches, but there are few positions at such churches after seminary, so most are placed in these smaller churches that look like they will die in the next 10 years unfortunately. People always talk about a "pastor shortage," but there is actually a shortage of healthy multi-generational parishes. While there are many older churches, there appears to be many more seminarians/pastors than actual multi-generational churches in many places. There is definately a certain challenging reality of working in a church where there are no other families or young people. Was it always like this in Lutheranism or is this a new phenomenon in the last 15 years as many churches lost the Gen-X and Millennial generations and now the only ones left are the boomers? I know that this problem is not nearly as acute in evangelical free or baptist church traditions. It simply feels like people are brought up in this amazing church community and then placed in really challenging circumstances that are nothing like the church communities that gave them a call in the first place.

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2024/11/23
04:13 UTC

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Did Luther ever repent in his later life?

I have catholic mates who constantly tell me he never did for his anti semantic views on the Jews and other things he did I've read from some people he did and others he didn't.

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2024/11/21
22:25 UTC

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Lutheran kids program

Does anyone know if there are any Lutheran podcasts or YouTube video series that do Bible stories for kids?

I’ve found some non denominational ones, but want to be careful about the theology before I let me kids listen to it. Thanks in advance!

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2024/11/21
20:12 UTC

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As someone who, without a better word, "flirts" with Lutheran Theology, am I wrong in thinking this? (Question in the text below)

Hello everyone, I currently find myself picking at some things that I thought were true for me (I'm a Roman Catholic), but as I researched mainly the Lutheran Reformation, it became more complicated. That said, one of the things that is evident to me, and that years ago made me become Catholic, is that: The Holy Virgin Mary should not be as despised as she is in Reformed churches today. I don't know what it's like around the world (I'm from a city in Brazil colonized by Lutheran Germans, so there is no shortage of churches of that denomination) because the Virgin Mary is rarely mentioned, I understand that she is not necessary for the salvation of men, the 5 soles (Christ alone, glory to God alone, etc...) but it seems to me, again personally speaking, that there is a certain aversion to this figure who, as Luther himself says: Is the noblest jewel of Christianity after Christ. I hope I spoke with respect and, again, regardless of the theological direction I acquire, I cannot help but love the Mother of My God and Savior. EDIT: I understand the limits (I believe I do) regarding your veneration: Not asking for your intervention, without honoring it to the point of taking away the place of worship due to Our Lord, these differences are now clearer, I would like to understand if it is correct, or rather, if it is beneficial and if it pleases God to understand and have her as an example and with special affection

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2024/11/21
19:24 UTC

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Help looking for Table Talk of Martin Luther

Hello, I'm looking to find a book version of the Table Talk of Martin Luther (Ideally in Europe). I've been having trouble finding an actual good publisher of it online as half the ones I've found seem to be only portions of it, or printed versions of a pdf file. I want to find a complete, unabridged authentic copy of it. I was hoping someone here might own one and could share the name of a publisher or distributor.

Thank you in advance!

8 Comments
2024/11/21
17:58 UTC

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Assurance

So, I’m interested in becoming part of the Lutheran church specifically the LCMS or WELS branch. I’m struggling to find some doctrines on whether one can have assurance even though they struggle mightily with sin. I struggle a lot especially with anger, pride, lust, and I’m certainly way too lazy. I’ve heard about the comforting doctrines of assurance in Lutheranism, but I’m wondering if that applies to such a wretched sinner like myself. I still don’t really understand repentance to be honest. I’ve seen so many different definitions. I confess and run to the Lord for mercy that is only available through Christ’s finished work, however, I’m hoping I’m not deceiving myself due to my sinful habits. Lord have mercy on me a sinner.

10 Comments
2024/11/21
14:28 UTC

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