Were their tests totally different, maybe not even trying to measure the same thing as crinacle does now, or did the sound of those headphones degrade over time or must they have got damaged at some point? I get zero relevant results for "Sansui" "false advertising" so presumably they weren't just making things up.

i wanna use my trn redchains mic on pc and have a nice dac as well. the jcally jm11s worked for this until i lost them. i watched the dongle madness video on these and they seem to be really great value for the price.

Looks like the AirPods Max tuning was quietly updated at some point, now measuring closer to the new B&K 5128 target curves like those of Soundguys and the JM-1, with better upper mids and treble extension. Adding in the Balanced Tone accommodation on “slight” (in Settings/Accessibility/Audio & Visual) should fill out the rest, and sounds fantastic.

Pretty stoked about this new, more accurate, and engaging tuning! Haven’t used them much in the past few years except for travel, and am now really digging them. Hopefully their headphones to come will keep up w this, the AirPods Pro 2 also sound excellent.

Check out the measurements yourself in their updated review at https://www.soundguys.com/apple-airpods-max-review-44975/. Would be great to see somebody measure the Headphone Accommodations options with the new B&K system!

Unreal headphone. My impressions are in another thread in this subreddit.

This one is special.

I bought them because i found them to be incredibly pretty and because they got some praise online

And i fell in love with them pretty quickly because of their very unique sound (imo)

They sound quite neutral, tend to lean on the warmer sound

They also come with some acoustic foam, some o rings and another pair of nozzles to tune the sound further

the default is silver nozzle with red o rings, which sound amazing imo.

They sound very clean, with a strong bass (but far from overwhelming in this setup) and the soundstage sounds way bigger than what i know from other IEMs and the imaging is absolutely incredible. Voices sound amazing. I love them in this setup. The mids are present in a really nice way and the same goes for the bass, really tight and there if it’s needed.

The gold nozzle makes the sound way more generic (imo) it still sounds absolutely incredible, but the harman sound is way more pronounced in that setup. With a stronger, but less refined bass, the treble doesn’t sound much different imo. But in general they sound less refined overall and the mids and voices get a massive hit, losing their richness. (They still sound absolutely fantastic and a lot of people may prefer that tuning, they just sound a lot different).

I prefer the Silver nozzle setup because they sound really unique that way, with very rich voices, more balanced and the bass is way tighter. I haven’t tried other simgot IEMs, so i’m not sure if the other models have similar sound.

Driving them shouldn’t be a problem, they don’t need much power, but with the Moondrop Dawn Pro they do sound a bit fuller.

So I don't understand something. Are my ears broken or ar the Denons that good?

I have: Meze 109 pro, Meze Alba, Steelseries Nova 7X, Skullcandy Crusher Evo and OFC the Denon's.

Alba best for gaming, Nova 7X best for compatibility (Got PS5 Xbox and PC), 109 Pro when I want to get serious and Crusher for..well crushing my head.

Lately I started watching a series again whilst playing TFT and sometimes on Alba sometimes on 109 pros (those 2 + Denons being recent aquisitiona)

Then I go to bed and put on the Denons and holy s***t. I can hear so much more and I don't understand why...

Scene in a bar, I can hear people talking in the background far away. Outside scene, I can hear the wind, the birds etc. Police station, I can hear people in the background, printers and many many more sounds.

And I just don't get the why?

I need to do some more, proper, testing tomorrow tho.

• a bit of bragging with my BF aquisitions (plus a Fio k7 on it's way)

I just got my MG Clears (hifi version). Cable with two cables. The one with the 1/8 jack is way too short for my needs. It came with another cable which is XLR.  I'm guessing I should buy an adapter for the XLR? Anything I should know about choosing an adapter?

edit: or maybe I can buy a 1/8 extender?

As tittle says one of the drivers on my SR325e died and I already tried fixing them by resoldering and trying a different cable to no avail, I honestly like these headphones but not enough to get another pair, so my question is what should I do? I was checking for custom drivers but I am afraid I will end up with something that do not sound like Grado headphones, what is the closest custom driver I can get to the sound of the SR325, where can I get OEM parts for this hopefully not to expensive, anything more than a 100$ is beyond my budget, heck I would say closer to 50 is preferable (I live in Colombia and usd doubled in value in the last 10 years) so to me 100$ is like 400$ for someone in America.

I needed a decent pair of earbuds with a microphone on them for music and calls at work. Raycon ads are all over the place so checked out their website and saw a sale, got them on a whim. After the fact I decided to browse this sub and see what’s up and looks like yall aren’t big fans.
It took these damn things so long to get here that I settled on a different brand, purchased them, got them, had them for about a week, and am happy. Huawei FreeBuds Pro 3.
Question is, are these Raycons worth it to even keep at this point, or should I ship it back at no charge?

Shanling HW600 is the real deal.. Just unboxed and began feeding it tunes. The TLDR is this: sweet mids, pristine bass and inoffensive, tastefully done treble. This headphone seems like a home run in this price range. And oh.. the build is CLEAN. They feel wonderful in the hand, worth every penny if not like they cost a good deal more. I will add more thoughts as I continue to listen..

First album: DJ Shadow’s The Mountain Will Fall—

I use this album to test bass accuracy. HW600 hits it out of the park. Every type of bass is employed in tracks throughout and this headphone can do them effortlessly. The bass and mids stand out as just sounding right. On the track Three Ralphs the low bass is the star and HW600 executed here w aplomb going low w no bleed into the mids or bloat. With the track Ghost Town the sounds just envelopes you. There is adequate depth and instrumentation layered beautifully here. It’s a kind of hauntingly good sound on offer with DJ Shadow. This headphone is like a bass/mids surgeon. Again, no bleed in to the mids whatsoever and it can easily portray every kind of bass note accurately.

I should add I swapped the stock cable out immediately for a Custom Cans ultra capacitance cable at 4.4mm term, and I’m listening from an Xduoo X10T connected to an iBasso DC-04 dongle.

Workingman’s Dead from the Grateful Dead —

Guitars have a palatable crunch and the timbre is high quality. These headphones sound so natural. Like i know it’s planar drivers I’m hearing but they sound a lot like dynamics w rock. Attack/decay is on point but there’s this well executed note weight and some trailing ends to notes that make the mids sound very sweet. Male voices are up front and meaty. Everything is just clean sounding, but not clinical..definitely more musical in tone, but really clean.. HW600 sounds similar to the HEDDPHONE one in this way, but more clear and vivid. Here’s a comparison: if HEDDPHONE one and Hifiman HE500 had a baby that was lighter and way better built than either of those it would be HW600.

Beck, Mutations —

We Live Again, the instrumentation is weighty, vivid and enveloping. Beck’s vocals are at center and up front. The sound image is a deep wall of musical bliss. You really get a sense of the quality of the production on offer here. My senses are being attacked and overwhelmed. The sound is amazing. I do not have a critical note for this level of execution. Dead Melodies is a similar fair. I’m captivated. Bottle of Blues, just wildly good. I can’t say enough about the layering/imaging. Instrumentation sweeps in all around the head stage with accurate timber, power and musicality. The overall presentation is so musical and gives the listener emotions.

Beethoven - Eugen Jochum composing —-

The DC-04 dongle is being pushed to its max potential. Classical needs power it cannot provide. I can see i need to go to my bigger amp, DAC, but the potential of these headphones is clear. The dynamics swings heard on this humble set up are captivating nonetheless. I need to go in the house to hook the HW600 up to the Gustard H26..

Listening from the H26 and SMLS DO400 DAC. I don’t even know what else to say. This headphone does not put a foot wrong. Beethoven sounds stunning. The pairing w H26 leads to slightly improved soundstage width and better instrument placement. Listening to Leonore No3 Overture the powerful dynamic swings are some of the best I’ve heard. Louder sounds contrast w softer notes so beautifully and effortlessly. It is a feast for the ears and just sounds right. This is not a headphone you can put on and do other things with, (or at least I wouldn’t) work or whatever else. The presentation pulls you in and you are held captive.

Ergonomics—

HW600 wears nicely and doesn’t move at all on the head. The clamp is firm but not tight at all. It’s just right. There’s plenty of room in the cups for my ears and no hotspots on the top of my head. I think these are around 450 grams. They feel light on the head. Fit/comfort is excellent.

That’s all for now. I think Shanling really did great with this headphone, especially for it being their first stab at this. I’m excited for what comes next for them in the segment. Happy to answer any questions. Apologies for the confusion about the name of the headphones. I was moved to give impressions and rushed here lol.

Peace ✌️

I saw these support Bluetooth and 2.4 ghz connectivity but can these be used simultaneously?

I see a lot of threads on here about replacing the pads on these headphones, but mine seem to be glued or non-replaceable, so I was just confused if somehow my version of these were different than others. Mine also started rattling like crazy in the right ear (super noticeable when running bass test), and I'm wondering if I should just buy new ones or try and fix them myself. I've had them for longer than 2 years, so warrantee will not be an option.

I have had the HD620S for 2 weeks now and wanted to share my impressions to everyone who is interested in buying them or closed back headphone in general.

It is my second "audiophile" headphone ever, before I had the HD558 as well ( open ).

Beside that I've used the Sennheiser Momentum 4, B&W PX8, and I tried the Sony XM5, Sennheiser Accentum and TWS like The XF5, Bose QC Ultra TWS and right now I own the Momentum 4 true wireless as well.

So I am not able to compare the 620s to other wired closed backs like DT770/700 pro x and other competitors but I am sure that I have a good feeling about the strengths and weaknesses of the HD620s ( especially because the B&W PX8 should be comparable to even good wired closed backs).

So let's start:

Comfort 8/10 The HD620s do fit very well and I can wear them for a long time without it starting to hurt. Of course they are really large and the contact pressure could vary from head to head but in general I am satisfied.I feld like the B&W PX8 were a little bit more comfortable to wear, because of that the score is 8 and not higher.

2.Build Quality 9/10

I have not noticed any problems, they seem very robust. Maybe a bit much plastic especially compared to the PX8 but that's fine ( consider the uvp of the px8 of 800€)

3. Scope of delivery 4/10

A hardcase and balanced cable included would have been nice.

4. Isolation 10/10

I've traded my PX8 for the HD620s because I wanted a more neutral and "better"sound quality. I use the HD620s at home and on the go so a good isolation is really important to me. I am really impressed how good the isolation of the HD620s are! It feels like an ANC headphone and I don't miss ANC at all so it's clearly a really good isolation.

5. Amplifieing/Dac compatibility ( no score because that doesn't make sense in my optinion)

I use the hd620s with a FIIO KA17 Amp/Dac ( with iPhone 15 pro max, Amazon Music HD/Qobuz) and I tried them as well just plugged into my laptop and Apple dongle. Caused by the 150ohm I tought that it will not make any sense to use them without amp but I have to say that it gets loud enough and the sound is also great with the Apple dongle/laptop, but with the Fiio KA17 it gets much louder and the sound is cleaner(more to that in the sound section). So it is definetly a good idea to use a decent Dac/amp. I tried the Fiio with different modes ( desktop, non desktop, balanced with 4,4mm and 3,5mm). The hd620s gets more dynamic while using a balanced cable because the Fiio ka17 has a higher power output while using balanced cable. But I don't think that balanced is necessary.

6. Sound Quality 10/10

In terms of sound I have to say that I am really impressed with the HD620s.

Sound signature:

In my opinion really neutral. To me it doesn't seem like any frequencies have peaks. The Momentum 4 are v shape to my ears and the PX8 clearly warm. I really like the more neutral sound signature. With the balanced cable / higher power input it gets even more neutral/ more clinical. I haven't compared them to other audiophile headphones but I've read on Reddit that many people say that they are really neutral, some people say they are a little bit warm but compared to premium anc headphones they are neutral to me.

Soundstage:

The soundstage is so wide compared to the B&W PX8, Momentum 4 and even wider than my HD558 which are open. I haven't tought that it is possible to create such a wide soundstage with a closed headphone. I have not compared it to the competitors but I can't imagine that there is a sub 400-500 Euro closed back that has a soundstage like the HD620s. I can't compare it to the HD600 or comparable Opens but in the future I will :)

Bass:

The bass is precise and tight, with a dry character that avoids being overly voluminous, especially when compared to the PX8 or Momentum 4. The sub-bass is more restrained, which, for me, is not a downside but simply a different approach to sound presentation.

Mids:

The midrange is absolutely beautiful and natural, with vocals sounding perfectly balanced and full, as well as instruments like guitars. Combined with the wide soundstage, the separation of voices and instruments is truly a joy to experience. In my opinion, the midrange is perfect for genres like ballads, pop, classical music, and similar styles. To me the HD620S are a true Allrounder. With the momentum 4 I really don't liked female voices in ballads but classic was great, with the PX8 I liked pop and vocal heavy songs, but they were a little bit weak in classic. The HD620s can do everything.

Treble/details

The treble and overall detail retrieval of the HD 620S allow me to hear an incredible amount of nuances that I couldn’t notice before with ANC headphones. The instruments are clearly distinguishable, making the listening experience much more engaging and immersive. With the balanced cable and more power delivery ( Fiio Ka17 desktop mode with balanced cable) the sound gets a little bit more clinical and analytic. In some songs I even prefer to use the 3.5mm cable with less power input because the highs are a little bit more enjoyable for a long hearing session.

Conclusion of the sound 10/10

Really love the HD620s in terms of sound quality, they are neutral, detailed, have a very wide sound stage but have enough bass to be entertaining. If you prefer a warm sound or more laid back than i would maybe pick another Modell.

It is my first review and I gave my best, of course I am not an expert because I haven't tested other audiophile headphones.

Feel free to ask questions :)

hello, I wanted to ask you guys if you had any solutions to headband strain, I've been rocking a pro x 2 lightspeed for about 9 months now and It's been great but idk for the past month or two I've been experiencing pretty bad strain on the top of my head. I wear headphones for over 8 hrs a day if that matters, this has been killing me though makes working on anything or playing so much harder. >_<

Looking at black Friday deals for new headphones. I never looked for the beats, but they're marked down a larger percentage than many others. For the lower price, are they the better option?

I've looked at many of the main options: Sony XM4 / XM5 Sennheiser accentum, accentum plus, and momentum 4 Bose qc

They all seem to have their pros and cons. I'm willing to spend up to 200, which is what the xm4 and bose are currently at. If the beats are that good of a deal at 159, I'd be down to grab a pair.

I have a pair of ATH-M50x, and wanted to know that if I EQd them to have a perfectly flat frequency response, would they benefit while making music?

Can you EQ to a wider sound stage? How?

After years of flirting with the idea of getting my hands on a pair of HD 800s, but always being hesitant due to it‘s infamous treble peak I finally got my hands on a pair through a friend and his corporate benefits program that includes Sennheiser. Coming from a background in live sound engineering of jazz, gospel and soul + a love relationship with Sennheiser‘s 600-series and the 560s, I was really sceptical regarding the before mentioned treble situation. Somehow I never got the chance to actually try the cans with colleagues or anywhere really.

But let’s do this in order. First things I realised fit wise: The ear cups are massive in diameter, even more than expected. That for me lead to a minor issue. If the headphones aren‘t place perfectly on my ears, their sound signature will change so much so that they sound more like slightly more spacious HD600 with lowered high mids. However, when they’re placed perfectly, they will deliver a sound that fits most people’s description of the headphones. I would like them to have a bit more clamping force so they stayed in place better in my head.

As for the sound: Yes, they are spacious and yes, they are crisper in the highs, but - the base tuning isn’t that far away from my beloved 600-series. The treble works very well with the more grand soundstage. Taking beyerdynamics whole tesla driver range as a comparison, it’s less tiring and cold. As for the bass response, while being slightly subdued especially compared to any planar drivers (as it is subdued in the 600-series headphones) it is still dynamic and quick. I also feel like the balance between the lower bass range and the higher bass range is tuned more balanced (some might say neutral) as in the 6X0s. With the right amp the HD 800s are also as precise as a scalpel and work very well for analysing music. It was easy for me to detect cuts in vocal- or guitar lines or looped drum beats in reference tracks. Timbre wise, to my ears they sound natural and warm enough to fall in love with them as easily as with a HD600.

Overall, the HD 800s almost render my other Sennheisers redundant, because other than on the vocal intimacy end, they do almost all the same things just slightly better.

This is coming from someone who listens to most genres from classical and jazz to hard techno and black metal. As for the headphones in that regard: there is a time and a place. They do everything well enough for me, but if I am craving thumping bass, I‘ll opt for speakers. In the end these are just my two cents anyways.

I usually use my headphones almost everyday, like I put it on when I walk home from school and will switched ear to ear sometimes , and sometimes I will listen to music on for an hour or so as well

don’t get me wrong, i know that music is basically surround and stereo

but i always think about how cool it could be if we had music professionally mixed to emulate an environment

like a live stage where the music is in the front and a few meters away and you feel like you’re on a concert

or a nice bar with a live performance

would be cool when you’re studying and want to feel like you’re in a bar with live music or a venue in general

why is this not a thing??

Hi I play guitar in a rock band. I’m currently running my Kemper into the mixer at rehearsal studio. I just started using in ears (Shure SE 535) and a Xvive U4. I feel like the in ears make my distorted sounds more distorted and harsh on the high end. Is this just the nature of the in ears? Is it the Shures? The mixer? Or the transmitter? I did try EQ’ing the mixer which definitely helped but I couldn’t dial out the harshness.

My uncle gave me them and out of curiosity I wanted to look them up online but I can't find them for sell on the site

I was wondering what is the highest level of the DT 900 Pro X that is plugged into a HyperX Quadcast.

I know that when It comes to iems, the term "soundstage" doesnt really apply but I Hope you understand what I meant. Some iems have a bigger more spaced out sound. I own both the Tangzu zetian Wu Heyday and 7hz Timeless AE and I love their tuning and sound signature, they feel "correct" but what amazes me the most on any audio gear is always the soundstage and How big and 3d the sound can be. And in the iem realm these two are the best that I have heard. Im wondering what other iems could be an upgrade to their sense of space and wide "soundstage"