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A subreddit for survivors of destructive cults, ritual abuse and brainwashing/mind control to collaborate, share information and inspire.

A subreddit for survivors of destructive cults, ritual abuse and brainwashing/mind control to collaborate, share information and inspire.

A subreddit for survivors of Destructive Cults, Organized Abuse, Ritual Abuse, and Mind Control. We hope to create/foster a space where survivors can collaborate, connect, share information, and inspire while learning about free will and personal autonomy. It is one thing to talk about cults and another to live it. This sub is for survivors and ONLY SURVIVORS

Related subs: r/adultsurvivors r/CPTSD r/Cultishinfluences r/DID r/exchristian r/exlldm r/exmormon r/exorthodox r/mindcontrol r/OSDD r/ritualabuse r/spiritualabuse r/gangstalking

(Please send recommended sister subs to mods so that it can be added.)

RULES

In order to ensure a safe and sensible environment, please respect the following rules/guidelines:

1 – No flaming, spamming or trolling. – Pretty basic. Spamming also includes overwhelming self-promotion in which removal and potential ban is based upon mod discretion. Feel free to message the mod team if you disagree with a post removal and have good reason why it should remain.

2 – No invalidation of a survivors experience. – No matter how big or small, how relevant or understood a survivor is; invalidating a survivors trauma and experience by saying what they experienced is “not relevant to a cult” is NOT acceptable by any means. If you feel a post is a trolling attempt, feel free to report a post so that it can be reviewed by the mods and appropriate action can be taken.

3 – It’s all about respect. – Stay mindful of another person. Having a differing or controversial opinion and expressing it boldly is accepted and encouraged. However name calling and belittling a person could be grounds for potential post and comment removal and/or ban. Consequential action is at mod discretion.

4 - Recruitment of members of this community for a media production requires mod permission first. - If you are seeking to recruit survivors and members of this community to engage and be interviewed in your media production, Mod permission MUST be provided first or else your post will be removed.

Pretty basic.

WANT TO HELP? Please help keep the sub safe, healthy and quality by reporting posts and comments that you feel are concerning. Don’t hesitate to contact mods via PM as well.

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Cult family members

There is a crazy man in my apartment He starts saying that I have to eat medicine And that I have to repent to God and Jesus And he hits my head when I started to pray according to his command He would not let me sleep until I pray He holds my head and hands tightly and rays to a non existing God and Jesus He starts uttering non sense that I would go to hell if I do not repent. He is a scary cat who doesn’t have the courage to even tell neighbors that they are too loud at 1am which fking irritates your sleep. He is such a harasser to his family he is a fanatic who thinks that they have to believe in Jesus who he cannot even see and live out his love.

He forces me to spread the word of God and work at places that I do not want to because he is not financially responsible for his family and he doesn’t fking care to find a regular job. He says he’s a missionary, but honestly, he doesn’t fking love his wife. His wife is crazier than him. There’s a fking crazy woman who also lives with me. She is always cursing whenever she has the opportunity She doesn’t have respect to the people she meet She is a hypocrite She acts like an angel in the outside But in her inside, she is a representative of a devil. She always have something to pick on someone no matter how good they are. She is never really satisfied or thankful. She is always threatening the people around her. She had a bad experience and aweful childhood which she thinks is a result of her presence. She says that exercise is not the will of God, but you ought to listen to Gods voice more. What she only has in mind is to eat. She eats like a pig munching before she swallows. I have never seen her stick to one profession but she always change her opinion on things. She is not stable but like a raging fire. I never felt peaceful with her.

I’m not even trying to runaway Because I know there is no point in running away. They are on my back. I’m not sure how to leave because they have gotten me hospitalized illegally and I was too stupid to let them escape from family abuse under the name of sympathy and respect, but they have crossed the line of care and that has trespassed my emotions toward them.

I have been suffering because of their treatment and have had enough of it. I still feel furious but at the same time habitual about the religious rituals they are performing.

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2024/11/03
03:53 UTC

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Was this a cult?

TW: abuse, csa, religious abuse

Note: We have DID, so I'll be referring to ourselves in plural and single pronouns of and on. I apologize for confusion.

I don't if it counts as legitimate cult behavior but it feels relevant here. It wasn't a group of people, just one man. No one knew...no would have believed had anyone said anything because he was a "good family man."

From age 6 to 11, the man our mother was married to was religious zealot. While we always went to a pretty "standard" Baptist church, but he had his own rules for how Christian families were supposed to behave. He was very controlling and demanding. I had to be homeschooled, bible verses were written as a form of punishment, and being involved with the church was mandatory. However, we never really had friends or visitors to our house. I didn't know many children my own age outside of church or my cousins for several years. But at the time, I knew no other life so I didn't see where there was anything wrong with it. I became so devout as a Christian, he ended up forbidding church as a punishment. I have since uncovered that he also molested and groomed us in secret. Again, something we didn't realize was happening at the time. We are slowly piecing all the fragments together now that we're in our 30s.

I know not all Christians are cultists, but would this be considered cult-like abuse? There are so many distorted beliefs I remember having thanks to that part of my life, and some of us still actively struggle fighting against them at times.

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2024/10/31
21:50 UTC

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[VIDEO] Is Cognitive Warfare & Strategic Communications The New Way To Manufacture The Creation Of Cults??

As cult survivors, I wanted to raise awareness within your community of contemporary communications tactics used across all sectors for everything from marketing & advertising to warfare applications.

If you have ANY questions at all, I would love to talk to you

For understanding, this is the only video on the internet explaining exactly how Cognitive Warfare (CW) is waged, its distinction from Information Warfare (IW), its DARPA origins, its dangerous effects on mental health, etc.

Many of these themes are connected between cults, extremism, and even terrorism - with the current military tactics used to counter violent extremism online having the capacity to be inverted to cause extremism & terrorism. And hence, potentially cults as well.

I have conducted numerous interviews with cult survivors and I believe there to be a connection between the conditioning process (fear, anger, anxiety, etc.) Doing so comes down to narratives; and constellations of narratives weaved in to one another that serve to strengthen, vindicate and validate one another.

I've made the conclusion that because of the backfire effect (Nyhan & Reifler, 2010) and psychological perseverance mechanisms like confirmation bias, the only way to reach those who may fall victim to political & religious cults and/or violent extremism or terrorism is raising awareness (in an extremely healthy & non-conspiratorial way) of contemporary capabilities used to condition someone towards those ideations. Because, at the end of the day, if someone were to ask them if they were being manipulated cognitively to perceive reality differently, how could they possibly know? After years of studying how to reach people in extreme states of mind, I know now that raising awareness of certain communication tactics (and how they're executed online) is the only way. With that comes media literacy, and with that comes deradicalization. Because at a certain point there is no deradicalization, only de-escalation.

Thanks for the subbreddit community on the subject!

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2024/10/30
20:28 UTC

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any Ex-Mormons here? Joseph Smith DIDNT die as a MARTYR

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2024/10/29
15:23 UTC

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One Year Ago I Left The Seventh-day Adventist Church

One year ago on this day I quit my missionary position and shortly after I had my name removed from the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Today I reflect on that choice and the impact the church had on my life and the freedom that I now feel being away from an insatiable institution that never could have enough.

For ten years my wife and I began work as unpaid missionaries teaching English in Ukraine. From that point on, we took various calls in places like Nile Union Academy in Egypt and the Quinault Indian Reservation. In Queets we served for two two year terms. The second two year term was unpaid. We were given housing, however.

During my time in the SDA church, I was told to “never question, never research, never read anything that could be perceived as negative towards the prophetess known as ELLEN G WHITE.” After twenty years and after training at Adventist Frontier Missions, I started to question the things that I was learning about her and the church. When I came up with questions, I was told to be silent, keep my head down, and continue the work. My job was to reach into other Christ-following churches and bring them to the remnant church, which was said to be the Seventh-day Adventist church. The one that had the truth as proclaimed by ELLEN G WHITE.

When I looked into www.nonegw.org I was horrified and elated by what I saw. For years I used to read about how I was supposed to eat, how I was supposed to dress, compose myself, what I was supposed to watch, how I could not read fiction (because it would lead to insanity). I was not supposed to have too much sex or masturbate as if I did those things God would not hear my prayers. I was to make sure to give everything left over to the church, avoid amusement, carnivals, not play chess, not vote. My food could not be spicy, too delicious. Sensation of any type was to be avoided because if I did not avoid such things God would not hear my prayers and I would not survive the “time when Christ stops interceding for us.”

When I saw that ELLEN G WHITE could not follow her own rules, ate unclean meats, ate cheese and duck, ate oysters and herring, ate butter and eggs, wore fancy clothing, traveled first class, lived with servants, and traveled the world, I was elated because it meant that I could do those things without feeling intense guilt. When I brought these things up to the pastors and leaders of the church, including Native Ministries Director Steve Huey and Conrad Vine of Adventist Frontier Missions, they made excuses. I was told to keep believing and play the game. When that did not work I was threatened by Steve Huey and Monte Church. I was told that my views had bothered the local Forks Church, ran by Jay Coon at the time. As punishment, Jay Coon stopped paying the electric bill on the Queets SDA church (which was under his jurisdiction as pastor) and instead had us, unpaid missionaries, foot the bill. He would also no longer speak to us or answer our emails. Instead, he diverted Queets funds to pay for his Creation Park in Forks, WA. 

I finally had enough and left the work at this point. We were never worth paying or supporting in the eyes of the church. Rather, the name of the game was to make us stop asking questions. If you are a Seventh-day Adventist and start to question ELLEN G WHITE, you will be thrown out. Many people do not follow the Bible and “TEST THE PROPHETS” but instead are complacent because the SDA church says that ELLEN G WHITE is a prophet of God. No. She. Is Not.

Prophets don’t plagiarize. Prophets do not say over and over again that Jesus will come back in their lives. Prophets do not live lives that are the opposite of what they say to do on everything. Reading fiction leads to insanity (no it doesn’t), but Ellen White could have a library of such books that the rest of us were not supposed to read. Hypocrisy! 

Dear SDA church. You DEMANDED perfection from me in every aspect of life, yet you can’t even support your workers. You are one of the richest churches in the world, yet you hoard money like a dragon. Dear SDA church, you can’t stand someone questioning. You hide child and s*xual abuse. You only care about protecting the image of your institutions. You recruit people from other Christ-following churches claiming you are the remnant church. NO YOU ARE NOT. 

The Seventh-day Adventist church is a death cult. It is a racket made to get certain key figures wealth and power. It is hungry and insatiable. It never knows when to stop. There is little good, and nothing heavenly about this dark church.

Since leaving the SDA church I have been totally free to live my life as I choose. I am now far healthier, ironically, since I was breathing the miasma of ELLEN G WHITES health rules. ELLEN  G WHITE loathed entertainment and fun of any type. My child is now happier than ever. My relationship and marriage is now better than ever. Steve Huey and Monte Church of Native Ministries can not find a single person to put in that parsonage and run the Queets Church. Last I heard Adventist Frontier Missions was an internal mess! Adventism is a wreck!

Dear Seventh-day Adventist CULT, I am so happy to be free of you! Never again cult!  Never again! ONE YEAR FREE!!!!!

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2024/10/29
09:55 UTC

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Inside the Mind: Understanding Cult Psychology for Students

Hi I was just wondering if there were any former cult members that would be okay with me interviewing them for a school documentary? It would be really appreciated and I can blur out your face if needed. It’s not going to be seen by a lot of people just my teacher and peers.

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2024/10/29
02:56 UTC

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Very Hard disjunctive

I find myself in a very hard position as I feel family (mostly extended) are trying to influence my decisions in term of life choices. I have to say that I come from a Latin/Mediterranean country background and that in this countries family ties are very strong for good or for bad. I have been out of the cult for almost 13 years now, but shortly after returning back home for about 8 to 9 months I had to go abroad due to economical hardships. And it has been almost 12 years now, and I feel tremendous pressure from different family members, to make a come back. To put it in perspective, I almost feel the toxicity I used to experience while on the group, all this obviously is very subjective., but is my life Wich is on the line here. Anyway. Need help advice, thank you in advance Edit : Trauma /abuse /shame showing its ugly face 🙄🎊🔔

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2024/10/26
20:24 UTC

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Got my brother out

My family, including my siblings and me myself to some extent for a couple of years, were all in a cult for over 30 years. It's called Landmark, and destroyed our family. Basically, if you weren't in it, you weren't deserving of empathy or support. You were on your own. If you were in it you were subjected to endless jargonisation and coaching. 😩😩😩 Not to mention judgement around whether your life was up to par or not. So my dad died a few years ago, and my brother was still half in it. He was ramping up to get his kids into it. I knew I didn't want him to subject his kids to it, so I subtly tried to steer him away from it. I talked about the benefits of team sports, scouts etc. It's been 8 years but I just realized he hasn't spoken about Landmark for a good 2 years or so. Without going full-force I seem to have managed to get his mind off it. I have to take a bit of credit for this, but there are other factors at play too (his partner wasn't in it either). So I hope this is a seed of hope for those of you trying to get thru to, and save their loved ones.

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2024/10/26
03:16 UTC

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Help! I’m being Gangstalked by a Christian cult

Can someone please help me. I’m being Gangstalked by a Christian cult and the police won’t help. They are paying people in which I believe to go along with their psychopath issues. I believe they are responsible for the recent death of my best friend, my brother’s best friend and his stepson and two other people. They are having multiple people follow me around. They somehow know what I’m doing in my iPhone, they have hacked and compromised many of my emails and Instagram accounts. They know every conversation I have with people and then talk about it in their Sunday serums. It’s so creepy and there is nothing I can do. I have followed multiple police reports but because I don’t have actual proof no one will help me. It’s like they spread a nasty rumor about me and everyone believed them. I know they have to be paying people because why else would people get involved. Can anyone here give me suggestions please or advice?

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2024/10/24
16:56 UTC

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Psychological research on religious cults

Hello everyone, I have recently joined this sub and have been reading through everyone’s posts. I am a Master’s student at a university in the UK studying Forensic Psychology. For many years I have had an interest in religious cults and religious trauma stemming from crimes that have been committed in a religious context. For my thesis, I would really like to research the long-term mental health effects on cult survivors. I really believe this to be an important topic of research, as it is relatively new to psychology and we still do not know enough about the effects of being in a cult. As I’m sure you’re all aware from first hand experience, many therapists are not educated in this area and not equipped to handle clients who desperately need help in dealing with their trauma. Back to my thesis, I am not conducting any research yet but I wanted to post in this sub to see if there would be any of you willing to share your experiences with me as part of my research. It would be completely anonymous, and I would be happy to do it over text rather than over a zoom call if people are more comfortable with that. I just really want this area of research to be more developed because I believe the danger of cults should be taken a lot more seriously by professionals than it currently is. Thank you!

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2024/10/22
18:55 UTC

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Any Beta kitten program survivors?

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2024/10/21
04:11 UTC

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For those raised/born in. Were you made a “true believer” by your “true believer” parents?

Curious how many are there as only recently I discovered much to my shock, rage and despair that not every family in a cult are true believer type.

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2024/10/18
13:07 UTC

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Someone is spreading harmful rumors about me to isolate me from friends and family. HELP?!

My family and friend's are asking me odd questions and speculating. I don't who or what it is? or what's the motive. What can I do about this?

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2024/10/17
04:11 UTC

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Curious about, The Big House Family Cult Organization and Affiliated Organizations.

The Big House Family Cult (Bethany Joy Lenz)is all over the media right now. I Can’t find any info on the org. Any info on the org/orgs that they are affiliated with? I’m curious if they are affiliated with YWAM/Bethel/IHOP or others.

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2024/10/17
02:59 UTC

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Big House Family Cult (Bethany Joy Lenz)Can’t find any info on the org. Any info on the org/orgs that they are affiliated with? I’m curious if they are affiliated with YWAM/Bethel/IHOP or others.

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2024/10/17
02:52 UTC

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Is anyone familiar with this symbol?

When I was younger for ritual purposes the cult had carved this symbol into my genitalia using a blade which is still there to this day. My cult was satanic, if anyone is familiar with such a thing even if it’s similar I’d like to hear.

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2024/10/16
20:48 UTC

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Leaving today instead of becoming the leader's heir.......

Instead of being groomed to be Leader 2.0 I am Leaving!

I've lived here for 1.5 years been involved for five, since I was 25.

It feels surreal to be leaving. I thought it was my duty to stay forever. Between my unpaid "job" as main coordinator for this group, and my actual outside job... I am constantly working or on call, I never even had time to step back.

My whole life is centered around this group. I've met all my friends and my girlfriend here. It is the first place I experienced true acceptance and friendship, even family.

My girlfriend and I are struggling so much mentally. We are leaving together.

When I told the Leader that I was leaving she said "the whole community will collapse now" and implied that now she won't be able to die in peace (she's in her 80s.) she said now there is no one to leave the property to. I love her so much, she is like a grandma to me, so that cut me like a knife.

I have felt so much responsibility for this place and keeping it running and it feels very hard to relinquish the control and power I had and just be at peace with however it will be run now.

I went to a People Leave Cults support group the other night and it helped a lot. But it was hard to be around people 5 years out when we are literally leaving right now and just beginning to process what happened. We were just at very different places. (And we had to play the radio while we Zoomed because we worried about being overheard even in our cabin!)

We found affordable and beautiful housing -- a trailer on really nice land -- through someone who has no ties to the group. We will only be 20 min away because I wanted to be able to check on the groups property and still volunteer. But the more I reflect the more I want a clean break.

What should I be doing or considering in these early days?

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2024/10/15
14:33 UTC

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Assistance with moving forward

This is the first time I'm publicly speaking about my case, bare with me as I can't put all the details I want to. Happy to discuss in PMs

For reference I'm in Australia

I was victim to CSA and RSA 2002-2010

When I was in my late teens I found thousands of "childhood pictures" I never knew existed, I remembered the days the photos were taken (most of them) but I didn't ever recall being photographed the way I was. Some of my earliest memories are of being abused or given sleeping tablets. I had a constant throat infection until I was 5 but never taken to the doctor. My first doctor visit after getting my needles was when I was 8-10

In 2020 I spoke out about what happened to me to law enforcement and found out I had evidence that would contribute to (at the time) open cases both national and international. About a week after I had made my report my flat was broken into and I had family pictures stolen alongside a few other things

Over the past few years I've had to deal with people coming in and out of my life who I recognise from my abuse. Some of them have mocked me in passing and others have been frightful I might do or say something to expose them

So far 4 of my abusers have been convicted and put away, one is currently working for NSW health and has had access to the department since 2019. To me this proves the network they've been working with are connected enough to make space for convicted abusers to work in government departments and/or rebuke records from police checks

Some things I've been through -

Procured weekly for men and women 2003-06

Procured bi monthly for a large group in rural NSW 2006-08

Procured for "you drink the cup is empty, you pour the cup is full" "escape from carnal desire" ritual at abandoned barracks 2007 (completely unsure if this is prelevant to Plato's Cave Allegory of the Freemasons as a few older survivors have outlined to me. It could've been a copycat ritual)

Photographed in a studio set in Balmain NSW 2008

These are some key highlights from what happened to me. I know there are hundreds more victims who went through the same things I did because I wasn't the only child present

It's getting harder to move through acceptance the more I start to realise the extent of the network that I fell victim to. It honestly feels like you squash one cockroach and a million pop up elsewhere. In the back of my mind I'm thinking what if my whole country is in on the bid and I'm just a piece of game they can hunt? It's not how I feel, my anxiety more like. It's frustrating talking about this with my friends because no one can offer support, just ohhh that sounds so horrible

Every time someone talks about how they miss being a kid I'm immediately taken back to the memories of abuse and I become withdrawn. It's annoying the shit out of me

Any and all help is appreciated A message from god would be if someone similar contacted me and let me pour my heart out to them

Thank you in advance

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2024/10/15
02:08 UTC

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What symbol/sigil did the cult you were in use to represent themselves?

I know not all cults use one and then some cults use more than one. I’m also curious about how they used it, if they did. And whether they kept it secret or used it publicly?

Only if you’re comfortable sharing any of the details, of course.

4 Comments
2024/10/14
23:54 UTC

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Christian Nationalism?

Hey everyone. I need to know if my experience classifies as a "cult". My mother was a "Christian" and decided to go the way of Christian Fundamentalism. This label covers a lot but within our household we were homeschooled all outside in fluences were driven away and told we had to reproduce as many children "to be the lords soldiers" as we could. If you didn't fit the mold you were punished and tortured for it.

Does anyone else have any experience with Christian Nationalism?

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2024/10/14
12:29 UTC

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Ammon removes videos for damage control....

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2024/10/13
15:23 UTC

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Trigger Warning."Children Of The Cult", ITV (UK) "Exposure"/Dartmouth Films, 13 October 2024 - 10:15pm [90mins] (Links to reviews in comments)

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2024/10/12
09:46 UTC

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Research looking at the psychological well-being of former members of cultic groups

The University of Salford is hosting this important research. We are, however, reaching the point where we will be closing the research, at least for a while in order to analyse the data. So if you are thinking of doing it this is your chance. It is, of course, completely anonymous and confidential. Your responses will be pooled with hundreds of others into a data set and then uploaded into a statistics package for analysis.

This is the link where you will find more information https://app.onlinesurveys.jisc.ac.uk/s/salford/health-wellbeing-former-members
And as a few have had a few problems with the survey platform I created a short video to help you avoid them - see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swAzWiq7a6E

https://preview.redd.it/eh17nkz5jaud1.jpg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e000e08387ca2bb0a41aadeef95ddce5320d3699

Finally here is the poster. Many thanks to the many who have already responded

5 Comments
2024/10/12
09:02 UTC

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How to support a friend recovering from a cult

My best friend was in a cult when she was younger but is displaying cult mentality in a new group she’s a part of. I can’t say for sure this new group is a cult esp bc i don’t think she ever fully recovered from her first cult experience.

As a friend tho, I am wondering how I can support her through this? She is starting to isolate herself with folks from that group only and shuts down when outside friends question anything. It also feels like it’s always her vs. the world even when we have calls. Her and I have very different views in general and anytime I share mine, she shuts it down.

I am doing my best to not have any opinion about the group she’s in bc I realized that will cause more harm than good. Any advice would be appreciated!

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2024/10/11
21:32 UTC

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Non-religious cult experiences and help

Trying to find any stories or help on where to go to help with deprogramming from non religious cults. I rather call it a high control group. Didn't have an official center just teachers. I was only there 3 months but I feel cracked open and broken.

It wasn't even supposed to be something it was just a social club.

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2024/10/11
12:19 UTC

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A Bottomless Cesspit: Ammon Hillman's Lady Babylon Cult

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2024/10/10
14:35 UTC

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23:18 UTC

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