Cuando andan pasando cosas malas en familias o problems o como se portan ellos se lo culpan a los malos espíritus! Empozan a decir hay espíritus malos 😂 entre los hermanos cuando pasan cosas así y en su mente esos son malos espírituuuuuuuus cuando sabemos la verdad QUE NO! No quieren ensuciarse con las mierdas que hacen y ya se lo culpan a los malos espíritus para hacerse sentir mejor!

So my dad is a very big fan in the YouTube steaming like apocalipsis on YouTube so he’s like UP TO DATE with everything 😭 but sometimes it can be a little annoying due to the fact that we just wanna forget &

hes just going on today about how nasson is dead and that they killed him in prison but like I don’t know if it’s true but he’s telling EVERYONE in our family and I don’t know since I don’t see anyone talking about it so..

So I just talked to my fiancé and told her why I never seem interested in going to LLDM and she kept saying “that’s why my dad told you to go to the church in Boston, because there’s people there that can answer those questions because you shouldn’t believe everything that’s online”. It was a quiet drive home no words no music and now it’s silent in the bedroom. She believes he’s innocent and she’s known about my stance on this “church” because she went through my phone and saw conversations I had with a best friend but didn’t say anything. She has a family member who isn’t part of the church but still went once and she believes that naason is innocent. I can’t support the devil an if this marriage/engagement falls then maybe some here were right and that the cult evil and will push to destroy relationships and bonds to keep their members brainwashed. I feel sick an I think she’s crying. Part of me wants to go to my local Catholic Church and speak to the father and see what he says but I know for a fact that going to Boston and speaking with a minister will result in nothing but lies and rage. I feel lost an I’m praying that my relationship with this amazing woman doesn’t fall victim to this cult like many others have in the past.

Que hay de Azalia? Porque la familia Meléndez no la entrega? Seguro saben dónde está, porque si no como le hacen con la niña? De corazón es una de esas personas del círculo maldito que deseo que pague por todo el daño que ha echo. Siempre se creía la gran cosa, con una actidud de soberbia... se paseaba con aires de grande... obvio, porque era la puerca n. 1 consagrada a Naason. Ojalá la encuentren y que lo pague. Se murmura que a veces se parece en HP. Las demás secretarias? De lo último que sé es que Susy Oaxaca vive encerrada en casa de su familia (fuentes: su misma familia). Becky estuvo por un tiempo escondida en Tijuana en un templo donde se encuentra uno de los hijos de Felipe Medina. Que hay de Rosy, María José, Eunice Estrada Cuellar, Yareth Toriz (como me caía mal por hipócrita), Karina (era la secretaria más joven y nueva del grupo), etc??? Betsy Illescas allí sigue viviendo su vida de "fashion blogger" (lo único que sabe hacer... y le sale mal) y no se con que consciencia en capaz de dormir en las noches después de haber reclutado a jóvenes... que no sabe que la vida se lo puede cobrar con uno de sus hijos? Que me dicen de las hermanas Valenzuela? Anita y Alejandra también participaban en las porquerías? Siempre las veía bien metidas en los labores de Casa Apostólica desde los tiempos de jerico. Anita en los últimos años era la nutricionista de Naason. Y que se sabe de Schneider (Primo de Gadiel esposo de Azalia)? Circula el rumor que participaba en orgias con Naason. En fin, el punto es que todo aquel que haya convencido a jóvenes y menores de edad a cumplir actos ilícitos TIENE QUE PAGARLO! Yo sigo creyendo que existe de verdad Dios y estoy segura que tarde o temprano lo pagarán, pero para esto si se necesita levantar más la voz! No solo Naason tiene que pagarlo, si no toda esa gente que le lampeaba el trasero para hallar "gracia" delante de su presencia.

I’ve left the church for sometime I’ve was still in it from my 20s till a little after 23, I went on deep spiritual journey where if it wasn’t for my friends, also love what I do, I wouldn’t be who I am today, I’m very grateful. this past couple years it’s been the hardest I ever had to over come in my life, if I was in the church they would of takin advantage of me how venerable I am and would of said “ who take that in and put in the church they can help”. I’ve lost some really good friends that helped me at my worst, also to some it’s just a animal but I also lost my dog she was everything to me, she helped me out at my worst times, as now I’m this old, I’ve notice, I should of went to some therapy, I’ve never wanted to put myself through that cause I don’t want to seem like a pussy, or people looking at me off. I’ve been very emotional where I’ve been thinking about of being self destructive and self inflicted with out noticed. I don’t want to be a story or example where the church talks about “look see this what happens when you leave the church” I really want to be a example for my fellow pears, where you can say look see he left he loves his family and his doing awesome, I’ve really haven’t had the best encouraging in a couple of years now and it’s really destroying me as a person. I want to ask for help or some motivation, but how things don’t work out how you want it to. It’s good you left the church if you face your trauma head on, other then that if you don’t go to some therapy you’ll be contemplating like me.

Quien? Ya miramos el problema porque!

So I had a made a post below but couldn't finish what I started writing about her. Está disque hermana uso a mi mamá y le robó no nomás le robó le robó su tiempo. Y no nomás se lo hizo a ella se lo hizo a VARIAS hermanas. Es cierto se siente la gran cosa nomás porque su hermano es el ministro. Su hermano Gory se la paseaba y ella robando y usando a hermanas. Mi mamá fue unas de esas victimas y a mi me daba coraje como podía hacer eso y nadie hacía nada. Pero veo que ella no tiene PODER y estoy hablando de parte de mi mamá.
Lo siento mucho por Joram y Joshua y sus hermanitas de ellas. A la mejor joram y Joshua ya no asisten ala iglesia por esta Amargada y ratera. Espero que te arrepientes Azalia. Tu vas a decir descarada que no es cierto lo que hablamos de ti pero si hay otras hermanas hablen !!!! Aquí pueden hacerlo sin tenerle miedo!

Super quick, my fiancé and her family are very in tuned with this cult and her parents and even herself admitted that there’s been some stuff about the “church” but that I should talk to a minister before believing anything I see. Has anyone heard anything about the two LLDM locations in Massachusetts, one in West Springfield the other in Boston, those are their main ones, west Springfield during the week and Boston every first Sunday of each month. They want me to do an I just said I’ll think about it but I did my digging and watched the documentaries an I know monsters will lie to my face.

After years of back and forth on whether we can or can't celebrate Halloween, this year I'm emerged fully! I'll be wearing a silly bear costume, drinking with friends and overall being a normal person in their 20s. I'm so happy to be free to share moments like this with my peers. What will you guys be doing??

Does anyone from this community know if the teacher Luz Sagrario González Sánchez had any important position in the Light of the World? I know that politically it was important, but within religion it carried out some important activity.

I haven’t posted on here since forever and it’s been quite a while since the last time I went on a stalking hunt, but does anyone know where Efrain Bojorquez got moved to? It seems he’s not in Austin TX anymore. Recently read about someone having a bad experience with his wife too, any more victims with stories? It’s been so long I sometimes wonder what they’re up to at what used to be my local church.

De ellos no podemos hablar mal o bien. Tenemos que no decir nada de ellos. Especialmente de Adoraim y sus hermanas alado con su mama Alma.ni de sus tíos Benjamin , Atlas etc... pero ni la mayoría supo que Adoniram hijo de benjamín anda con los narcos y mataron a 2 de sus hermanos. No todos somos perfectos pero ellos viviendo la vida de lujos mientras el hijo de benjamín Joaquín tiene hasta antros en México y está envolucradoccon el narco. Con razón no podemos hablar de ellos.

¿Alguien sabe algo?

You don't remember me from Minessota Right? Well you're going to deny the facts that you were being an amargada and stealing from innocent sisters. My own mom will not speak up but I'm doing it for her because she got afraid of you but realizing you don't have the power to do anything about it to scare her off. I remember your nephews and the little girls Israel's daughters. The only problem is YOU! You make me sick to my stomach.

Yo salí de esa secta desde hace 12 años, pero me da curiosidad qué fue lo que les dijeron cuando Naason Joaquín se declaró culpable junto con sus cómplices. (Que aún una está prófuga)

¿Cuál fue la justificación que dieron para que se declarara culpable?

Y actualmente, se habla de eso dentro de la iglesia o cuál es la narrativa que manejan?

¿Saben o solo evitan hablar del hecho de que su lider esté encerrado?

Hello, I dont really have much to say so it'll pretty much just be basic, but to get to the point my boyfriend and his family is apart of LLDM. Now I didn't think much of it, I just figured it was any other religion. But I wanted to look more into his religion so I can understand him more, as I am not apart of it (I am simply just Catholic) and want to be more involved in things that are apart of his life too. I want to also mention that he's never really brought up his religion that much or even the name in general, I almost feel as if hes trying to hide it from me in some way? At least earlier on in our relationship, he would always turn off his location whenever he would go to the church, but I eventually found out when he was a little too late to turn it off. I started looking into it when he told me he can't be in a relationship with anyone outside of lldm, but he said he still wanted to be with me. Now while it did make me upset and I didn't want to pull him away from his religion, he protested and still didn't want us to break up, and I still can't stop thinking about it now. So I decided to look more into lldm, to see what else there is about it and just to learn more about his restrictions and as a way to respect him. While doing my research I stumbled upon the fact that lldm could be a cult? And now I'm a little concerned. Would anyone help? What should I do?

I don't even know why I'm still friends with her on Facebook after knowing what she did. Even though she's a good friend of mine I'm opening my eyes because some of my friends that know her,know. She's been around a lot moving accordingly where her brother Israel moves so I can say being a free loader living in las casas pastorales meant that?. She's best friends with Alisha. I know her from California. I always wondered how she payed her yoga classes and all that if she doesn't even have papers. She always goes to the Santa cenas in the United States but never to Mexico. So I assume.

So the other night I was with my fiancés parents and they talked to me about going to LLDM an asking why I haven’t gone yet, the other times they’ve asked me to go I simply said “I’ll think about it” but after all the dirt I’ve seen an uncovered myself they admitted that there has been some dark dealings but they told me to ask a minister before believing any of what I have seen, the monsters that protect naason would simply tell me not to believe it I know that. Her parents want me to go at least once to see if I’ll like it but after everything I’ve seen I don’t want to an i guess I don’t have the heart to tell them no, I’ve wanted to tell my fiancé everything and show her that it’s a dark and false “church” but others from here have said not to do that, I didn’t realize how deeply they loved this “church” until the other night an it kinda scared me but also made me disgusted seeing her parents support such a monster and the monsters before him and who are still out there. I don’t what to do, should I go once so they’re happy and they stop bothering me or should I just say no that it’s not for me, cause even as a catholic I’ve never gone to church besides weddings, funerals an the occasional baptism.

Como pueden cantar sea la paz? Cuando ellos han desatado un caos? Hasta en la vida de los que están y los que nos hemos salido! Un poco de coherencia. Por cierto, veo que todos están publicando que falleció un Medina, joven, alguien sabe que pasó?

Cuando no vas alas oraciones if you're still in the church they considered you as not active or they assume you don't go because you stopped believing in the SOG or te revelastes. They judge you either way if you go or not They treat you as if you're back from el mundo when in reality you're just working or living your best life! Because they see everything as a competition not because they want you to be active in the prayers! I know some close friends of mine that are from church that say when they don't go some members ask around y porque no va alas oraciones ? Being noisy with their relatives One mentioned to me that they don't go porque son bien chismosos en las vidas de otros .. no van porque quieren saber todo lo que uno anda haciendo whether good or bad .. Los andan cuidando en vez de a sus propios hijos que salen saliendo peores ! Instead of being united he said that they love to see when someone's life is going hell. And where's the unity in that?? También me comentó una vez que cuando fue ala iglesia el que dio la oración apuntó que y esos que no vienen donde están? Que pasa cuando el Siervo de dios sale de la cárcel mientras estamos en las oraciones y no están aquí ??? Y solo dicen eso cuando asisten cuando ven que no asisten.

They need to get a grip! They see everything as a competition whether you go or don't go. As in my experience being part of the church being born in I know that members wish things bad for your life. They make comments like wow you're probably getting rich not coming to the prayers. I'm from California and they always say this to me whenever I go to church. THINK! Maybe that's the reason SOME DONT GO !!!!

Who remembers back in the day when we had MySpace and Adoraim had a list full of girls on his friends list that he had this rule on there that he would share photos of the girls he had if they wrote "ADORA" or "ADORAIM" in black ink . And if the girls would write his name cute on their body like arms , wrist, legs , forehead, even their lips he would put their photo on the top of the posts and favorite them!!!!!! If you didn't do it right he wouldn't even acknowledge it ! But I definitely remember my cousin writing his name ADORA on her arm to be recognized by adoraim on MySpace because all the girls were all over him and I don't know what they would see in him because he always seemed like an asshole and a big ass jerk because he was the prince of lldm and I would be like wtffffff is this shit ??? And saw on his Facebook that all the girls would do it like if he was the king of MySpace in LLDM ! And he always would hang out with Gerson Lopez back in the day. I would hear adoraims dad would fight for him with Gersons dad Gerardo Lopez because he was bad influence on him.

He visto como la doctrina de los luzmundanos y todo lo que en luzmundolandia sucede; pasa como en el cuento del emperador que usaba un traje invisible (la santa elección) y que todos lo ven porque sino tu hermano hermana ( de carne o de banca) te juzgarian . Y si no tu padre y madre , en verdad te dirían pecador. Y cosas así.

Me imagino que su alteza panzón Joaquín si ve su elección porque en su santidad, es el ungido de dios

Hoy en detroit levantó y expuso a los jóvenes que no quisieron o no pudieron ir a trabajar a sus órdenes expeditas y ya muy aburridas sus dominicales que habla de diezmos y ofrendas El no sabe pero si hay una sola demanda de coerción y amenaza se lo llevan preso, los avergonzó y amenazo diciendo que se van a condenar en sus tres años que el este aquí Por favor dónde está el diácono humilde cuando llegó el primer día que se presentó ya se está quitando la máscara ojalá y sepa que está jugando con fuego porque aquí la coerción es muy penada

Que si das a manos llenas No te faltara nada ...

Vamos a traer a la memoria todos los atropellos y negligencia de luz mundanos.

Alguien sabe del caso del joven que cayó de la estructura interna del templo de hp por no tener arnes de seguridad y quedo embarrado en el lugar del coro de jóvenes?

Movieron todo para decir que murió en hospital pero la realidad es que murió en el templo, eso es para clausura temporal por que hubo un fallecimiento en el lugar no?

Que esta pasando en la Iglesia de Houston Central ? Abrieron otra pagina de Facebook diciendo que es oficial, y la otra que no es oficial, pero unos dicen Que la primera es oficial y la nueva no lo es, alguien sabe algo de esto ? Quiénes son los moderadores de las paginas? Habrá pleito entre los miembros/ministros?

Sucedió si no mal recuerdo en las últimas Santas Cenas de Samuel, cuando tenía cáncer y no tomaban su rostro.

Uno de los encargados/pastor/diácono, no sé muy bien quién era, pero en una oraciones de todo el día que hay en esas fechas, recuerdo que en Hermosa Provincia habló mal y se rebeló básicamente en contra de Samuel en la explicación que estaba dando. Muchos se escandalizaron y lo tacharon de hereje.

Esa vez cuando comenzó a hablar, afuera comenzó a llover y tronar muy feo y se oscureció y se sintió una vibra muy pesada y densa. Recuerdo que me dio miedo el ambiente.

Esto pasó en una de las Santas Cenas del 2012, 2013 o 2014 pero antes de que se muriera Samuel.

Me gustaría que compartieran los testimonios mas descabellados y fantasioso que llegaron a escuchar. Yo por ejemplo llegué a escuchar que una vez en la glorieta los encargados de la guardia en la noche encontraron un bebé abandonado en una banca, el cual cuando lo levantaron dijeron que tenia dientes, y el bebé volteó y les dijo "También hablo". O algo asi no recuerdo muy bien, porque asi como hay historias fantasiosas hay otras hasta de miedo, como el angel que estaba cantando en el sótano del templo jajajaja. Cuales han escuchado?

She is not a very Kind and calm person as some of you say. Azalia is fake and apparently it's sad to see how you guys will do anything to defend her without knowing who she really is behind the scenes. Or she hasn't shown that side to you just yet lol. Where does very kind and calm come From in HER LOL?? You have not seen her other side. Her brother Israel aka known as Gory was at the church of Minnesota when all of this happened! My mom is one of the victims of Azalia who she used and stoled from her. And my little brothers would be off activities and would see how sad he was when she would kick them off only because your mom or any sister would not buy from her? What kind of sister in church does that as in revenge to a kid ???She was using sisters and stealing from them and thats not a RUMOR my mom was robbed by her and she used her for her own benefit. I had seen the post of that person who was talking about Azalia and they are not rumors or chisme. I was seeing it and my mom had to deal with her! I can say that person did a good job to try and speak up about her because nobody will talk about the shady things these people do. Yeah she seems nice but deep down you guys don't know what my mom had to live with her experience of Azalia. I would kick it with her nephews I think he's name is Joram and he even knows she would do those things. I feel bad for him he seemed very stressed out having to live with her like it bothered him. But that's no my business. I would observe her many times and I can see where the fake part comes from. You can't trust her with anything. One of my friends from church had mentioned something to her and her brother Gory already knew about it and it was something private. She will backstab you that's for sure. I would be careful if I was you to not tell her anything. And I only know Joram I only met Joshua a couple of times and I also haven't met her other cousins but I don't doubt it if they talk bad about her because I've seen it all with her using my mom and getting away with it. Azalia if you are reading this I feel sorry for your now husband and I hope you feel guilty for doing that to my mom or any sisters that you did that with for your own benefit to get money or idk what was the reason for that but I hope you feel guilty for what you did in Minnesota and stop acting so innocent. I know you are not a sweet person and I know you are definitely not kind at all! Please let this be heard. Hopefully her cousins will come out because they know more of what kind of person she is way more behind the scenes. So what that person said about her are true none of it is chisme or rumors.