Of all the reasons I'm out now (and will never turn back), there was one little bit of info I convinced myself was pretty significant. Looking back now, I realize I was grasping at anything, desperate not to shake up my comfortable life.
The faith-promoting thing I held onto was a thought I had once: In Abraham, it's explained that one day on Kolob, 'the star nearest to the throne of God,' is equivalent to a thousand years of our time. Something like that.
At the time, I had a rudimentary understanding of the theory of relativity. Basically, people traveling at super fast speeds, or in extreme gravitational fields, would experience time at a different rate than someone in lower gravity or not traveling so fast. In my mind, Smith had cracked into some great scientific truth 63 years before Einstein came around with his theory.
Then I learned about the Book of Abraham and the made-up nonsense, which finally snapped me out of it.
It's no longer faith-promoting for me, but I do still look at this and think it's a cool coincidence. You know what they say about a broken clock though—it's right two times a day.
Curious if anybody else built up the significance of something like this (or this specific thing) in their minds while they were in?

I’ve been getting this guy randomly on my feed and I know that he is a member. He said that he walked out because of how bad the movie was. I was wondering if anyone on here saw the movie and whether they thought it was a good representation of LDS culture or if it was really as bad as they are saying. I’m a big fan of horror and as an exmo this looks right up my alley.

My friend hasn’t attended TMFMC in 1.5 years. Neither have her children. Her husband still goes, but is struggling to make it make sense. Unfortunately about 8 months ago she was diagnosed with an aggressive breast cancer. So big changes are off the table for now. Her Nevermo friends have set up meal trains during chemo. Very few Mormons signed up (my friend didn’t care). Most if the time the meals arrived late (one was 3 days late), there wasn’t enough for the family or it was gross. My friend and her kids have been active in a Protestant church and have received a lot of support. Plus neighbors and friends have been super supportive. Her one request? No visitors. Chemo made her super sick and she had no energy for visits. The Mormons would say things like “we will drop your meal by at a time when you can visit”. WTF?! So then she would just have her husband meet the person at the door and say “Sorry, she fell asleep”. So she just has a mastectomy this week. Most of the meal sign ups were not Mormons. Yay! Her sister (not a member) is visiting and said she would not let them in if they tried. Unfortunately that didn’t work (see text). She’s super self conscious about people seeing her without a cap, sleeping, etc. what is it with Mormons and issues with boundaries?!!!

So I'm PIMO and mainly just go to church to see friends and keep my MIL from nagging me.

Yesterday was a stake temple trip and the nearest temple is quite far away so it's very much a commitment to go and involves a lot of work and time. A few if the sisters in my ward went (including my MIL). I'm at relief society right now and many of the sisters are talking about their experience at the temple this week and its importande and blah blah blah.

Someone brought uphow their kids thought the endowment ceremony was so weird after receiving their personal endowments and and how their kids thought the church was a cult. All the women are literally sitting here joking about it and giggling about how their children have admitted feeling betrayed by family and the church because the endowment is so weird and they had absolutely no preparation. One sister also said that basically her kids made peace with it because it's the church that their parents attend and their trust for their parents was enough to turn a blind eye. I feel so uncomfortable right now. :/

If anything, as an ex-mo it kinda made me mad that it seemed to be so supportive. The kid saying he didn't care if it was wrong because it gave him a happy family/life was irresponsible to the ways in which the church ruins lives. Is it weird that I'm mad as an ex-mo and I was also mad as a TBM that it even existed? Am I just a Karen for South Park?! Do I need to speak to the manager?

Bart Ehrman is the author of Jesus, apocalyptic prophet does a podcast episode where he talks about Jesus saying that God was about to return and he thought he would see it before he dies. Really interesting.

Podcast was on 25 Apr 2023 and called was Jesus a false prophet.

Let me know what you think!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4BNJBXrvAGxTMnFQ7Qm8WW?si=ELFdOAykTICgh4l4BwHaFw&t=2339

Both exmo, although his side of the family are and mine still don’t know if that info helps. I know growing up that watching porn was a major no no, but I was okay with it in our marriage. However paying for it? It’s a big no for me. We have a toddler and am currently pregnant with our last one. I don’t know if it’s the hormones, Mormon upbringing, etc but I feel betrayed and hurt.

To preface: I was on his phone looking for the Roku remote app when I found it. I didn’t mean to snoop but we have free rein to each other’s phones.

Printed and ready to go to the Notary Tuesday morning first thing. At what point do I show my TBM hubby that I’m fucking serious, before or after! I’m getting a little nervous and nauseous. This decision is a Half-Century of turmoil.

I totally bought those two as missionaries because their dialog was so perfect. I kept waiting for them to say something super cringe no Mormon would say. They never did. Very authentic.

Like can I just join a Mormon church group for a month and do some volenteering?

We moved after leaving the church so they don't know us here. Today at the gas station I saw the missionaries as I walked in to buy a coffee. As I walked by I said, "Hey thanks guys! Let me get your coffee this morning." They kindly just said, "no thanks" My reply was, "alright, next time then!" It made me smirk to offer them coffee and knowing that they wouldn't say yes.

If not, is there an amount that would make you consider it? Sorry if that’s a dumb question
By 'active,' I mean fully believing and accepting everything the church and the 'brethren' teach—essentially being 100% TBM

Somebody once told me that Utah used to vote Democrat until a prophet gave a speech during Conference that the church recognized the ideals of the Republican party. After that, Utah started voting Republican. Can anyone confirm if that is true?

“these feelings are not sinful— they are sacred”….. that’s not what i was taught but okie dokie :)))

I’m still in an LDS book readers group because my friend runs it. Dare I respond to this question the way the Holy Spirit tells me to? 😈 I’d also like to add I met the Tennis Shoes author and he was a huge jerk. Stared at my rack the entire time of our business meeting. 🙄 wouldn’t let me answer any questions and spoke trash about my friends and boss. 🖕🏻

I (23M) was going through old storage and it was healing. My mission was fucking traumatizing and I haven't been the same since. I've had so much fucking trauma to work through.

I was cleaning out old boxes of stuff and found little things to remind me of my childhood. Points throughout my childhood when I felt loved and safe. When I felt secure in the world. It was nice to be reminded of times when I felt that way. And to see what stuff I kept mean anything to me now.

There was a medal I got from baseball when I was 7 that I kept. Just a little participation trophy. And 3 other medals that meant nothing to me. Straight to the trash.

Just got this email. Whah a joke. Darn right they make sure to see who shows up. What a worthless meeting. They will talk about the same stuff they’ve talked about for decades. I’m embarrassed to say I used to go to these.

Be sure to write on the gift card “Notice the date! How cool this came out just before Joseph Smith translated the BOM! Love getting a glimpse into the early church time period. Happy reading!”

I was just thinking of this: isn’t it known that the wheel was not used in the Americas until after European colonists visited the continent?

If the BOM were true….

Wouldn’t they have brought this technology with them from Israel?

When I was at the age of questioning I had certain secular songs that spoke to me in a way that reinforced my decisions to leave my way of thinking and consider other ways of life that weren’t in the direction of the church. For me the song that spoke to me was Shout, by Tears for Fears. It was about 1984. I had just turned 14 and realized the world was a much bigger place than I was lead to believe and that I could protest, that I could be upset about my place in life, that I could change for the better.

What is a song that woke something in you that you couldn’t deny and led you to let go of the iron rod.

Side note: I’m 99% certain she killed her brother.

I don’t currently live in Sydney, but would love to have attended. This coincidentally comes off the backhand of the mass email that was sent regarding church history.

At 42, on the high council, and my wife young women’s president, 5 kids (16,14,11,9,8)we found ourselves in the midst of Covid and a faith crisis (thank you Jermey and John D.) Jan 2, 2021. A sleepless night reading the CES letter. Never went back.

We found ourselves longing for the Sunday routine, we started a “Sunday Shit Show” we have brunch at 10:30 and our SSS at 11:00.

We watch Ted talks, The Chosen,(I still admire the Jesus story: he left his Church to tell them they had it wrong, and was willing to die for that. I can still find beauty in that, even if it’s bull shit)? Mormon Stories, anything etc.

This past Sunday my wife threw photos of various characters, actors, each family member on the tv. The assignment was to list in as few words as possible what your first impression or feeling comes to mind as you see this person. What feelings/characteristics do you “feel” for them?

It was beautiful! My children shared their thoughts about: Stitch ( Leo and Stich) Maleficent, Tom Cruise, and so on. With each of our family members mixed in. I have to tell you “lazy learners” it was a beautiful moment. We had our kids exploring how someone makes them feel, we had our kids, rationalizing why someone makes them feel a certain way, and ultimately how a member of their family makes them feel.

It was a proud moment for me, a father struggling to find a path, a purpose, and meaning, to see that not everything is lost, that there is no hope, nor future. It was the opposite. T$CC only has the power we grant it, it is an evil organization, founded on greed, lies, and control. It was able to deceive us, but not forever. Truth prevailed!!

I wanted to share with you, my friend, that life is more, Mormonism held a lid on our growth, on our knowledge and on our potential.

You have purpose, you have beauty, you are enough. You might be a God already. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Don’t allow T$CC to seal a moment more of your life!

Amen ❤️

I am a 28 F who left the church at the beginning of this year with my 28 M spouse. It took my years to deconstruct Mormonism and it really started in earnest around 2020 while I was a student at BYU and came out as bisexual.

2023 was a peak anger and feminine rage at the church which ultimately led me to finally leaving January 1 2024. Since then it's felt so right and I've found so much relief. My mental capacity has expanded because I don’t have to do mental gymnastics everyday. It's been overwhelmingly positive for me. There are still tears and lots of hurt and healing that needs to happen but I can say I will NEVER go back there.

After the election results this week I find myself thoroughly devastated. My immediate family are mostly liberal, but my extended family and my in-laws all voted for Tr_mp. I knew this was what they would do, but I was hit with a very hard truth this week: my Mormon family members do not have the same morals that I do.

There are no lines that they will not cross in the name of the church.

Between electing a r@pist, homophobic, racist, sexist president and sending their money to an institution that is actively sending hush money to sexu@l assault victims, spreads hate about LGBTQ people and does it all in the name of Jesus and God.

How do I look these people in the eye now? I see them differently and I don't know what to do or how to act around them? They all know I'm queer and have left the church, but we don't talk about it. I feel betrayed by their actions.

Advice?