/r/whitecollar
A subreddit for the USA Network television show "White Collar", which follows FBI agent Peter Burke of the white-collar crimes division and reformed(?) con man Neal Caffrey, who helps Peter solve cases and catch other criminals in exchange for staying out of prison.
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So recently I got into white collar again and started reading fanfictions. I was very happy to see that a still active subreddit existed for a pretty old show
Btw: this is totally unrelated but i have believed for a long time that matt bomer would make an awesome superman. Maybe even a better one than henry (sorry henry you are awesome too)
This has been an idea of mine ever since I watched Person of Interest.
In season 2 episode 5, the main protagonist Reese is forced to date the latest person of interest (POI), Maxine Angelis because he can't risk revealing his secret identity as a vigilante to her. Unfortunately, she is only into Nerdy guys and Finch creates a profile that tries to make Reese as nerdy as possible. In canon, Reese was able to pass off enough to get a date with Maxine and was able to do a good job of protecting her, but what if someone else was able to get to her first?
Here's what happens:
Despite Finch's best efforts, Maxine ends up falling for somebody else much to his disappointment. Although Finch is unable to determine the "real" identity of Maxine's date, he does figure out where she will be meeting him and Reese goes undercover as a restaurant patron in order to keep an eye on her. The next scene cuts to Reese asking if they should be worried about Maxine's date, Finch says that although is unable to determine his identity he seems harmless enough. The next scene shows us why. Because as soon as Finch finishes his sentence the soundtrack stops and turns goofy as a shot of a man coming out of a modest car reveals that Maxine's date is none other than .... >!<... in an ascot.
Although Reese is confused over what Maxine would see in Mozzie, the two bond almost instantly. Mozzie is a great admirer of Maxine and her dedication to her profession and Maxine's is charmed by Moz's intellectualism and witty quotations. That said no one knows who Mozzie really is or what his real name is. They only know him by his alias: Dante Haversham or whatever alias Moz uses on his University of Phoenix law degree.
Unfortunately before the can continue their date, Maxine gets a call that Zambrano isn't the Head of HR. Realizing, that she made a mistake she asks Mozzie to drive her to Zambrano to try and save him. Reese follows them both and protects them from the Toreros Caretel but they are all too late to save Zambrano.
The next scenes cut to the police station, where Agent Donnelly is grilling Maxine for information and berating her for getting Zambrano killed. Mozzie, being the loveable rogue that he is comes to Maxine's rescue by declaring himself as her lawyer, and fire off a bunch of legal chicanery and some anti-govt stuff warning Donnelly that if he continues with his line of questioning he will sue him for harassing his new client. When Donnelly threatens to arrest Maxine, Mozzie warns him that he has friends in the FBI. They leave and Mozzie drives her home.
After Max threatens the Head of HR, she gets a call from Mozzie inviting her to a bar to let off some steam. Knowing Mozzie, it turns out to be a wine bar. As Mozzie comforts her, Maxine asks for Mozzie's help through his FBI friends. Naturally this takes Mozzie for a loop and he leaves the bar in a panic. Max goes after him and begs him to help her. Just as Mozzie is trying to make up his mind he sees a laser site on her chest and shoves her behind a car before she gets shot at. Reese manages to provide covering fire without being seen and Mozzie grabs Maxine and drives away. When Maxine asks Mozzie where she is taking them, Mozzie says they are going to a friend's. After Reese fends off the shooter, he follows them to Cobble Hill, Brooklyn. When they get there Mozzie reveals his true identity after he knocks on the Burkes door and pleads for sanctuary.
In the next scene, Peter as usual is irritated with Mozzie at the mess he's gotten himself into. To top it off Mozzie has been passing off Satchmo as his dog in order to score some points with Maxine. Despite Mozzie's aggravation Peter is willing to put Maxine in protective custody and let her stay over night. When Mozzie quips that they will take separate bedrooms, Peter says that the offer only applies to Maxine not him, which leads to Mozzie being kicked out.
As Reese tries to follow Moz home to figure out exactly who he's dealing with, Moz manages to spot him and lose him.
The next day Peter and Neal are confronted by Agent Donnelly. Apparently he and Peter were rivals back in Quantico, and he is infuriated that Peter is butting into his case. They take it up with Peter's boss boss Kyle Bancroft. Bancroft lets Peter take the lead on this case for two reasons, one is that despite Neal and Peter's unorthodox methods they do have a good rate of success. The second is that Agent Donnelly's ineptitude and pursuit of the urban legend the "Man in the Suit" hasn't won him many friends with the Top Brass in the agency.
Diana and Jones go over the Pub's security footage and run the gunmen's faces through their facial recognition system. They discover that they are Bogle and Pitt, ex-FBI agents that were kicked out for harassment and malicious prosecution. They were also suspected of working for HR but they were never arrested for it. Neal suggests that he and Peter visit an old friend of his to figure out where they are working for.
The next scene cuts to Peter and Neal waiting a cafe for this "friend" of his while Reese is keeping an eye on them. Finch fills him in on both of them and confirms that Mozzie is an associates of Neal's but he is unable to determine Mozzie's true identity. While they are talking Zoe shows up behind Reese. While Reese is glad to see Zoe he is curious on why she is here. He gets his question answered when Zoe goes up to Peter and Neal. It turns out Neal used to help her at least 3 times. There was also a fourth time but that was between them. Anyway Peter asks her if he knows who Bogle and Pitt are working her, and she says that while she is unsure she suggests looking into the Mayoral candidates based on that disposable phone number Maxine got.
After their meeting Neal calls Mozzie to bring him up to speed. Unfortunately, Peter also gets a call from the Agents protecting Maxine saying that she was released into her "lawyer's" custody. When they figure out who that is Peter snatches Neal's phone and demand that he return Maxine to protective custody. Mozzie assures them that his "client" is much safer with him, than with the FBI. He hangs up and tosses his burner cell phone.
Reese is back at the library and Finch informs him that he located Maxine and Mozzie's location based on her blue jacked phone. Apparently, Maxine has been taken to one of Mozzie's safehouses. Reese is planning to storm the place, but Finch talks him out of it by pointing out that Maxine is probably safter with Mozzie given his ability to stay off the grid. That said they decide to listen in to Mozzie and Maxine's conversation to make sure she is okay. They discover that Maxine has been looking into Bogle and Pitt and she has discovered that they have been harassing Griffin's opponents. However, she's not going to publish anything until she gets some hard proof, namely Zambrano's ledger.
Until then, Mozzie opens a bottle of wine and tells Max about his past and how he became a con man, (though he leaves out that he was the "Dentist of Detroit"). When Max asks her why he chose to be a con man, he tells her that she doesn't want to live under anyone's time or dime, he wants to be a truly free man. When she asks if that why his partner Neal was a con man too, Mozzie tells her that Neal prefers the attention and notoriety while he is content to stay out of the limelight. That's when it dawns on Maxine about Zambrano saying that no one looks at the good things he does.
The two of them go to Zambrano's carousel and discover Zambrano's ledger. Unfortunately, Bogle and Pitt also discover the two of them and plan to kill them both. Reese wants to intervene but Finch insists that he stay down and let Carter and Fusco deal with this. Before Bogle has a chance to kill him, Mozzie launches into a soliloquy buying him and Maxine enough time for Carter and Fusco to rescue them. The rest of the episode play out like it does in canon only this time Carter and Fusco are the one who take down Bogle and Pitt instead of Reese.
The episode ends with Reese looking after Maxine and Mozzie during their first "official" date. However, Maxine breaks up with Mozzie saying that her work is too important right now, but she wishes Mozzie the best.
I am addicted, it’s official. And I am not sure what I will do when it ends. I will miss these guys so much. All of them but specially Mozzie. 😥😥😥
S4E3 the mean agent daddy says Peter has to do extra work on his lunch break bc "you were 30 minutes late this morning."
I'm sorry but short of El having a stroke, in what universe is Peter EVER 30 minutes late?
- "just a couple of working stiffs" while helping Cindy change clothes as a distraction
- "Fate has a way of putting in front of us that which we most try to leave behind."
"Dostoevsky?" "no, me during my blue period"
I didn't catch any of this when I watched it the first time.
Just came here to say that. 🤭❤️
It was brought to my attention that Angus MacGyver and Moz are geniuses in the same aspects. So if you had to chose, who’s the man for your team?
Man I was really enjoying the show up till the ending. Its surprising it ended like that. I honestly had to double check that there's only 6 episodes... and it just ruins it for me. It's pretty expected that Neal survives but goddamn, just leaving mozzy behind like that? to be depressed and suffer? I get that its hinted that mozzy has seen the container and is probably otw to see Neil but damn its cruel. plus your bestfriend ends up naming his baby after u because he thinks you're dead?
also whats with the relationships in this show, Elizabeth feels like a dead character in the final season. plus what the heck happened to everyone else? wtf happened to sara ellis? it's like she dropped off the face off the earth, right after Neil fake proposes to her too? which seemed to show they had feelings for each other. The setup of Jim liking the receptionist in season 6 for it to just end with her slapping him? that's it? that seem like such a nice turn for real. and what happened to Alex? she just disappeared and is never brought up again. even thinking back now, the stuff with Kate feels so forced, especially with the retcons.
goddamn man, after all the shit that he went through, cadres decides he rather be a con man, i don't mind it but they could have written it better. also ffs, this ending has really ruined the show for me. what a depressing end to something that had me glued
Neal and Mac are both geniuses. They both can find themselves in shitty situations and escape. I am leaning more towards Neal, not only is he a genius but he’s got amazing people skills and can read a crowd and a person to get what he needs. Mac is also a genius. But could he outsmart Neal??
As a fellow coder this dialogue only made sense to writers who knows nothing about hacking. But still love this episode!
Wondering how they’re going to pay homage to Willie Garson (Mozzie). He was such an integral part of the show, and imo, Neal would not be able to pull off half of his schemes without him.
I would love to see the reboot actually happen but I love the original so much😩
new series but still being evil
So it occurred to me today that Alexandria Daddario ("Kate Moreau") was also in San Andreas (2015), where she played the 18yo daughter of the Dwayne Johnson's character.
AD was 23 in season 1 of White Collar (and 29 playing an 18yo in San Andreas).
Now, AD seems to be one of those actresses that could maintain that late-teen look well into her twenties, but I do find it interesting that "Kate" occurred six years before San Andreas. I'm curious how old "Kate" is supposed to be in White Collar, given that I read elsewhere that Neal Caffrey's birthday is supposed to be 1977, meaning that he was 32yo in season 1. At most, "Kate" doesn't seem to be much older than about 20, and that's really a stretch in my opinion.
Any thoughts?
it contains all random things like Mozzie looking at "33 steps" then at the ceiling having a hexagon and then a flagpole on top of hexagon where they measure "33 degrees" from the north direction and find the gunpowder room. suddenly 33 became THE number for Masons when CH in an earlier episode mentioned 13 as THE number for the Masons.
and Masconi coded "Latitude and Longitude" of a Castle accurate to 7 decimal digits in 1886? really? were the makers high? did they have some alien tech GPS with them in 1886?
I just finished the 3rd season and I'm at a loss, how could Neal fall for the manipulation of tha DC agent. And the face of Peter while expressing his trust on Neal before the judges (idk how to call them xd) meanwhile we see Neal escaping, it was so sad. Furthermore, Neal's expression on the plane trying to contain his tears... It all left a bitter taste in my mouth:(
That's it, I just wanted to banter a little bit.
I love this show so much. I have just started watching it and it blows my mind how the authors could make up such brilliant plots and dialogues. However I couldn’t help but seeing a lot of inconsistencies. The first one is when Burk meet Mozz ( love him so much) for the second time but he acted as if it was the first. That was odd. I forgot about the others. Anybody else noticed? Anyway glad to be here and discuss. 🤗
Caffrey Confessions is series of posts I make on tumblr about White Collar and Neal Caffrey...Lol
There is this scene in S5E10 where Neal tells Hagen "If anything happens to her or him, you'll see what I'm capable of" and I really want to know what Neal would've done to Hagen if Rachel hadn't killed him...don't know where that would've gone...
Also the fact that by the end of the show, Neal has been through enough shit that an already smart Neal becomes so smart that he didn't even have to lay his fingers on Keller to get him killed...and it always blows my mind...if he wanted someone dead, he could have them killed. 🤭🤭
keller searching for neal in hell...lol.....damn when keller realises neal pulled one over him and is roaming in paris while he is dead...bahahaha
I was searching for actors that have worked on suits and white collar. In season 4 episode 12 Terrance Pratt played by Titus Welliver also played as Dominic barone in suits
I just finished the series. I have to say Neal letting Mozzy think he is dead is horrible. Mozzy was always there for him and losing Neal devastated Moz. and even in the reboot Neal can never make amends to Moz because the actor passed away. It really puts Neal in a not so flattering light imo.
Try to vote independent of which season has individual episodes you liked and focus solely on which season long arc you enjoyed the most!
I am now watching this show for the first time and am on S4E15 (the one with the dubois fake statues).
neal mentions the chicken sexers with the male and female chicks having no differences.
fun fact: I worked at a hatchery for two years and they actually sex them by the length of the "feathers/hair" the chicks have after hatching.