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Now that the Acolyte has ended and we know more about the characters than we did during the show, who is your favorite character? Did they change by the end of the show, or did they stay the same? My personal favorite stayed Master Sol. Rewatching the show with what happened in mind has let me see how it (with great acting by Lee Jung-jae) foreshadowed and built up his guilt and internal conflict.

he still subservient with the Sith Rule of Two under his Master Plagueis also for those get behind after massacring innocent Jedi that's the exact thinking that put Palpatine into power also traditional Sith like Momin hated that Palpatine skewed there cult Ideology.

I’m working through Out Of The Shadows (having read LOTJ, ITD, TRS and the first 5 Marvel HR comics).

Way back when Acolyte first finished, I had a conversation with some guy who was complaining bitterly that Acolyte used nothing at all from the established High Republic canon. And up to now, I’ve not encountered much to argue against that. But with the introduction of Vernestra, her light-whip, her issues with padawan training and her issues with hyperspace already on this book - I’m starting to wonder if this dude actually had read anything from THR himself or if this introduction to Vernestra is pretty much all there is and he’s hand waved it away.

Edit: I’m starting to realise that I’ve already passed a ton of stuff in the previous books that I just hadn’t realised were mentioned in Acolyte because I didn’t know to look for them. Thanks to everyone who’s responded - giving me a compelling reason to prioritise a rewatch!

Pretty much the title. I’m looking for any books (even Legends, I’m fine exploring non-canon timelines/events) that give us a good glimpse into either: political intrigue during the High Republic era, or general stories about the Sith and other Dark Side users at that time. I need more Qimir, but in the absence of that I love very much the exploration of the Jedi as actually-not-good-guys.

It’s better than the REBEL MOON shit. It showed some imagination. I watched every episode of the acolyte and couldn’t make it through the Zac Snyder second movie. Hollywood is a real drought.

As you can see is isn’t carrying his helmet at all. No reason for him to use it if his mask magically appears on his face on brendok

Completely wrong, in fact. Let's look at what he says:

Rayencourt: "I think the Jedi are a massive system of unchecked power posing as a religion. A delusional cult that claims to control the uncontrollable."

Vernestra: "We don't control the Force."
Rayencourt: "Not the Force. Your emotions. You project an image of goodness but it's only a matter of time before one of you snaps. And when, not if, that happens, who will be strong enough to stop him?"

I get that is meant to be some sort of 'gotcha' moment where the flaws of the Jedi are called out, and certainly it's very well acted by David Harewood, but it's just not correct.

The Jedi are not an unchecked power. This show states outright that the high council are obliged to inform the senate of certain dealings, that they're always transparent with the senate, Vernestra can't keep investigations internal if there's a greater threat, and the senate is perfectly able to do an external review of the order. How is that 'unchecked'? And how will bringing the Jedi under more political bureacracy from people who don't understand them help in any way?

The Jedi are not a cult. Cults are insular, secretive, disconnected from the outside world, and most often led by an autocratic leader who uses the cult for their own benefit. The Jedi are heavily connected to the Republic, talk to the senate face-to-face, frequently help out in the galaxy, let outside volunteers work in the temple, and are led by a meritocratic council who try to determine what is best, not just for the order but for the Republic and the galaxy at large. And above all, cults do not let their members leave. The Jedi are a monastic religion who's spirituality happens to be literally real, calling them a cult is incorrect and calling them 'delusional' is just maliciously bad faith.

Emotions are not uncontrollable. A lot of people think this because they don't really know how and think it involves repression, when in fact there are several ancient philosophies that teach it and it involves nothing of the sort. The Jedi's brand of emotional self-control is directly inspired by Buddhism's (and similar to Stoicism's), which is about letting your emotions exist within you but not being controlled by them, to allow them to pass through you as, like all things, they are temporary. And it works. In this very scene, Vernestra demonstrates her self-control. She clearly dislikes and is annoyed by Rayencourt, yet is able to control her annoyance to maintain a modicum of politeness in the face of his rudeness.

When he talks about one of the Jedi snapping, this is clearly meant to be foreshadowing to Anakin. But when you think about it, Anakin snapping wasn't really the biggest problem. The real danger was Palpatine. Anakin on his own could never have killed every single Jedi in the temple, let alone the whole order, and certainly couldn't have overthrown democracy. That was all Palpatine. It's ironic that Rayencourt is harping on the danger of a Jedi turning evil when it's his senate that ends up harbouring the real evil that ends the Republic.

In fact, one Jedi snapping isn't even as serious of a problem as Rayencourt is suggesting. When it comes to who might stop a fallen Jedi, there's an easy answer to that, which is any of the other 10,000 Jedi. Any single fallen Jedi could easily by taken down by the numerous other masters. Anakin, even being the chosen one, was stopped by Obi-Wan. Only another great schism would be a serious problem, but the order was never at risk of that in this period. And when you look at the numbers, the number of Jedi who snapped in the thousand years in between Ruusan and the Clone Wars is a miniscule fraction compared to the likely hundreds of thousands that lived in that time and didn't snap. Percentage-wise, the Jedi actually had a fantastic track record with keeping their members stable.

To be clear, I don't think Rayencourt being wrong is bad writing, it's fine to have characters who oppose the Jedi or are misinformed. But I don't like that the show seems to take his side and expects us to agree with him. Indeed, the number of people who do seem to think he's right just shows how far the Jedi's reputation in the fandom has fallen away from the reality. Anyway, thanks for coming to my Jedi apologist TED Talk, discussion is welcome.

The themes of this show are exploring the fallibility of the Jedi (that contributed to the fall). The exploration of an individual fall to the dark side and if that always results in evil or not.

Qimir is not Sith. When asked what he is by Sol he says “I have no name, a Jedi like you would call me Sith.”

Because the Jedi are judgmental, not because he is one.

If he was he wouldn’t be trying to train Osha or Mae because the rule of two would prevent him, or plagueis who is a follower of Bane would kill Qimir to prevent it.

Edit: people have pointed out that acolytes don’t break the rule of two, my other points still stand though.

Like why say "I have no name"? Why not say "I'm Sith."

Night sisters also aren’t inherently evil and they are dark side users.

Mae by comparison was only morally grey, she killed the Jedi that killed her family and by the end put vengeance aside. So she wasn’t evil either.

The mystery of the show was going to be if Qimir was evil and if Osha would become evil and there would finally be some dramatic tension in the Star Wars franchise because we’d have characters that could go either way, or do immoral things for moral purposes or vice versa.

Like that was the point. If you are a super Star Wars fan but only watch the show through the lens of (fallible) Jedi teaching you’re going to have a bad time.

Also it didn’t break canon with the creation of the twins using the force. Anakin was created organically, the twins were not.

Also Osha is an emotionally repressed character because of her time with the Jedi, if I hear one more person say Amandla is a bad actor because they need to be spoonfed subtext…

Anyway, I’m not saying you had to like the show, it did have storytelling issues.

This show had so much potential and all the Star Wars dude bros who shouted the loudest were wrong.

/rant

Set aside the story and looking at the feel of the series, the acting, the film grain, how this captures the buck Rogers feeling better than the actual movies.

Story is good as well, lots of moral ambiguity, guilt.

It's really a shame that it was basically review bombed by racists who prejudged the show based on the identity of the people creating it. I admit I was taken in by this smoke too and skipped the show when it came out. But it is easily better than any number of star wars shows. Better than ahsoka easily. Also it is better than Andor by a significant margin.

Anybody theorising what Qimir’s real name & identity is? I know lots of people suspect his real name is Ren, and that he’s the founder of the Knights of Ren.

I personally like the theory that he is Imri Cantaros (Vernestra’s former padawan that dabble in the dark side) from the High Republic novels. I know Imri’s illustration shows blonde hair and blue eyes, but I think him being adapted to a show means it’s possible that his appearance is different from the books?

made all the designs myself i love these so much <3

& Honestly, it feels good. Star Wars was never just one persons’ version of events, as has been proven through the EU and Legends media.

Leslye did something incredibly new and brave with this show, never could we have imagined we’d see the story of the Sith told so masterfully; and Leslye’s crafting of the series is an almost mirrored reflection of the Sith novels. Even so far as dropping one of the pillars of the Sith Code, in “Peace is a lie…” she truly understands the nature of the darkside, how falling to the darkside is not a singular choice, but a repeat and conscious decision to choose the self over others.

This show deserves a season 2 more than any other Star Wars IP in my opinion.

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This is my 3d printed version of Pi. Designed with Fusion360, like the original, using multiple screenshots and promotional photos for reference. I programmed an @arduino.cc Nano and some MG90S servo motors to give life to the neck and added an SG90 servo to give life to the rotating antenna on his head. This week I added LEDs to the head. An important improvement to boost battery performance was to use 3 mm Water Clear LEDs. They consume much less current than their 5 mm peers. The source code and electronic circuit can be downloaded freely from the following link: 

https://github.com/therebelagent/Pip-Droid

and the visual assembly guide can be seen here:

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBQb5a

Is this some kind of allusion to most powerful Sith Lords that Jedi encountered in Old Republic era?

https://preview.redd.it/b19owg948cyd1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc2e0de77015e856fa1aff92ea9a9567ec959c4a

When you think about it, in the legends, apart from Valkorion, no one had such power to create life. Or at least not that we know of. Sol saying that Aniseya is so powerful that only a few other beings were more powerful means that the Jedi must have encountered probably Sith lords who manipulated life (for obvious reasons Sol is not aware of Darth Plagueis). This example of lore brings a smile to my face and reminds me a bit of what George Mann did in Dark Legends. I mean, all the powerful rituals that Darth Noctyss or Caldoth were able to perform.

It looks like he has nowhere to keep it other than his backpack. There are scenes though when he’s in his sith robes but doesn’t have his lightsaber like before the sol vs the stranger right on brendok. Where does he keep it?

And I am so disappointed that season two is cancelled since I enjoyed the show very much. The characters were great and the dynamics between them even greater. By far one of my favorite Star Wars show ever.