Is this some kind of allusion to most powerful Sith Lords that Jedi encountered in Old Republic era?

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When you think about it, in the legends, apart from Valkorion, no one had such power to create life. Or at least not that we know of. Sol saying that Aniseya is so powerful that only a few other beings were more powerful means that the Jedi must have encountered probably Sith lords who manipulated life (for obvious reasons Sol is not aware of Darth Plagueis). This example of lore brings a smile to my face and reminds me a bit of what George Mann did in Dark Legends. I mean, all the powerful rituals that Darth Noctyss or Caldoth were able to perform.

It looks like he has nowhere to keep it other than his backpack. There are scenes though when he’s in his sith robes but doesn’t have his lightsaber like before the sol vs the stranger right on brendok. Where does he keep it?

And I am so disappointed that season two is cancelled since I enjoyed the show very much. The characters were great and the dynamics between them even greater. By far one of my favorite Star Wars show ever.

I saw an edited clip/gif of Jecki’s death where instead of being stabbed three times, she just keeps getting stabbed in a circle around her chest. I’ve seen it a couple times but can’t find it anymore.

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Disclaimer: went in the show excited, came out disappointed. Personally felt there were a myriad of issues and Manny Jacinto and Lee Jung Jae’s brilliant performances as well as the awesome saber fights did not make up for them. Season 2 getting cancelled didn’t surprise me in the slightest, but I am disappointed we won’t get to see more of Qimir’s story on the screen.

So I made a post here right after episode 7 saying in my eyes episode 3 felt completely useless and unnecessary and I thought it was a stupid waste of resources when I felt like they could’ve used the runtime for something else. It was received pretty mixed here, in the sense that people very strongly agreed or disagreed with me not everyone had lukewarm opinions.

In the time since: the last episode aired (meaning we got to see how they concluded the season as well as how much more they could flush out the characters and story in the time they were allotted), most critic reviews (not aggregators of normal people who can review and therefore bomb it READ NOT AGGREGATORS) panned it and season 2 was cancelled. No matter how much you enjoyed the show, objectively one has to admit that with whatever combination of issues it had ultimately led it to fail to deliver its full potential.

The biggest issue to me was how they utilized their runtime. They had cool characters, concepts and a lot of cool potential storylines that could’ve been explored but they failed to deliver. With 30 million spent per episode I am hoping it was Disney that locked them into the 30 minutes per episode. But with the knowledge that they had that relatively little time to work with, why the hell did they waste an episode on episode 3? From my perspective, episode really doesn’t add much to the story or general world building. Establishing that the kids are being loved vs actually abused, the growing divide between Osha and Mae, the witches perspective of the force (I mean this one really could’ve been a line used anywhere) and the existence of spice creams are all things that could’ve been put in a few different shots in episode 7 to get the point across without cheapening the story. You could’ve taken a few scenes out and distributed them through later episodes too. Don’t want the viewers to know for sure that the Jedi were responsible for massacring the witches at episode 3? Focus up on a dead Jedi at the end of episode 5/6 and hit a transition onto a dead witch’s face and zoom out until you see one of the 4 in the background with their lightsaber on. Show the fight sometime later too. Episode 3 itself was already a big issue for the show. The biggest fall off in viewership happened after it and in my personal experience most people I know in real life had no interest in watching the show after it. Take out the “power of many” bit that just accomplished giving hate YouTubers a theme song and just give us the Jedis perspective at that time. Not knowing what the ceremony is makes it so much more interesting in my opinion.

I say all this because if they had made the combined Brendok flashback episode, imagine what the other episode could’ve been now. Fine, maybe everyone here thinks we’ve seen enough of the 4 Brendok Jedi and Jedi side characters. Maybe you all really truly feel like the Qimir and Plagueis bits HAVE to be in season 2 for whatever reason. But you know what would’ve been a cool episode? A flashback on both Osha and Mae’s life after the incident.

Yeah I’m not even saying don’t do two flashbacks, I’m just saying don’t waste two episodes on a flashback of the same thing when one would be just as effective. Imagine an episode of seeing them side by side. We see Osha dealing with losing her entire family but getting her dream, meeting Yord, being a problematic but well meaning student and whatever led her to leave the Jedi order. With Mae, we see her meeting Qimir, becoming an Acolyte (because you know, she was kind of the titular character for 7 1/2 episodes) and so much cool unseen shit from the dark side of the force. I have no idea what yall expected going into the show but I was really hoping this show would’ve had so much more in the perspective of the sith than it ended up delivering. This would’ve completely delivered on that, even just seeing glimpses of Mae’s training by Qimir and why she’s so terrified of him. And I don’t think anyone here would complain about seeing Osha more fleshed out as a character either.

Do I think my idea would’ve saved the show? Fuck no even ignoring the fact the show had a lot of other issues I don’t work in the industry and I’m sure there are a ton of people with better ideas on what to do with the episode. My point is though, that they wasted their runtime when they had so much potential to do so much more with the show. I think it would’ve been so much more interesting otherwise. Do you guys think having episodes 3 and 7 were necessary?

If the show had been renewed for a second season, what would you have wanted to see? I think it would've been interesting to see how Mae adjusted to being the Jedi hostage/'guest'/prisoner. And of course more amazing fights, especially anything between Qimir/Osha and Vernestra if she'd managed to track them down.

I wonder why Manny Jacinto would be a guest for SWC2025 if his show got canceled? I mean, obviously he and Lee-Jung were the best part of the show and maybe there’s a specific representational reason why he’d go but part of me hopes he gets his own show 🙏

I absolutely do not understand that scene

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Why did sol kill mother Aniseya?

Why did she turn into that black smoke when Mei wanted help because of the fire and why did Sol feel it was nescessary to kill her?

So I just finished the acolyte today (I also started it today I was building my Lego ucs at at while I watched).

For context as to my Star Wars preferences, I loathe the Sequel trilogy for many many reasons, I love the original and the prequels, I love andor, I very much like kenobi and ahsoka and book of boba fett, the mandalorian is my glistening jewel of modern Star Wars and Rogue one was just the best :). I also am indifferent about solo, and love rebels and the clone wars. I’m not sure what I’ve missed but in general I am a superfan and while not everything is perfect in some of the stuff above I said I love (looking at u mini leia under a trench coat) I think all of the above are pretty good stuff. Except for the sequels, they are just unredeemable.

I loved the acolyte all the way through the watch, I was hooked by the mystery of it, don’t get me started on the fights they were just orgasmic. I liked the way that like the nightsisters and the Sith this unknown witch coven’s magic was their interpretation of the force. I like the way everything was set up and revolved around the tragic incident at the beginning of the sisters journeys and the idea of a vergence being the cause of their birth. In my own headcanon all though I don’t think it was shown, I imagine it wasn’t these witches that were wholly responsible for the girls creation and I suspect that plaguis was testing his life creating abilities before the main event of anakin years later. The witch mothers were just none the wiser and assumed they were the sole reason for this. I suspect that was also why he was on the island with qimir.

There were actual stakes and characters I liked died and it felt real (poor yord he was annoying at first but he grew on me).

It was perfect up until the aftermath of the introduction of qimir. Following the fight I was so excited to see him try and convince osha to let him train her and I knew it would make perfect sense since all he wants is freedom and an acolyte to share his freedom with. However I do not understand why she went along with it so easily. He had just murdered so many people, something she was incredibly mad at her sister for doing lol and I think it’s fair to say in general murder bad. But these were her friends, people she laughed with and enjoyed the company of like Jecki and Yord who got especially brutal deaths. We were even reminded of these in a fantastically chilling way in the next episode. It just doesn’t make sense why she wouldn’t try to escape at the first opportunity but instead they flew a ship together and had a bit of bonding time?

That doesn’t matter too much however as my real grievance is the second half of the final episode. Previously in the series the reveal of the truth of the disastrous event was amazing you could see the pain in sols eyes as he realised his mistake in killing the mother in that moment. It was tragic and it was goooooood. He was still my favourite character, it was clear he wanted the best for everyone but did a terrible thing in the heat of the moment and then let that grow into a worse lie that led him to a strained relationship with osha and his past that eventually led to her leaving the order. Even still it was clear they were very close and shared many memories together.

OSHA killing sol seemed mildly forced especially since she has such a long history with him. her bleeding the crystal was so cool how it happened in the moment as it was clear all the trauma and sadness and betrayal was current as she had just learned about the truth of what she remembered of her family’s death. (Btw both the Jedi and the coven were in the wrong back then, also bit confused how all of them just keeled over and died but sure we can chalk it up to witch magic tho I would’ve liked a better explanation. I’ll get over that tho it’s not too important).

But how could the second half of the final episode frame sol as the bad guy? And mae osha and qimir as the good guys??? She had just murdered sol and qimir has murdered countless, and mae murdered 2 other Jedi as well (we don’t have to count Tobin but talking someone into suicide is still pretty grim even if he was a bit of a dick, plus the only reason she decided not to kill another was her sister was alive so she didn’t want revenge anymore, not because she suddenly became moral, mae has not been redeemed and no one I. The final scene with the three of them at the tree was a hero anymore, I couldn’t root for them at all but the music and way the end was going made it seem like I was meant to? That confused me a bit.

I made sure to look at absolutely nothing prior to watching as Star Wars fans have gotten petty toxic at points they’re a passionate bunch sometimes haha. I went in blind and my final thoughts are I loved the first 7.5 episodes (would’ve liked the interaction between osha and qimir to be wayyyyy more strained considering what he had just done but oh well) and the last bit made me confused and hoping that osha and Mae and qimir are captured and put on trial since they done a bit of murdering (if sol was alive I’d include him in that but I consider him far more forgivable since he was acting in defence at the time as the mother unleashed her magic and it was clearly an accident, still he needed to face judgement for the cover up and in a following season I so would’ve loved to see him come to terms with that and redeem himself alongside mae while osha tried to reconnect with them both following their actions).

Ooo also I rly liked the setup of the Jedi not always being perfect cos that was the whole thing in the prequels and was a big part of anakins fall as well

So my final rating is

First 7.5 episodes 8/10

Including the last episode 6/10, it rly spoiled it for me a bit kinda sad cos I loved it up until then :(

Please let me know what you all think I’m interested to see if any of my opinions are similar to other peoples :)

It looks like he just carries it around or puts it in his cool backpack. Kinda different for a sith. He’s so unique and lowkey seems kinda chill. I would hangout with him and train on his planet (Bal Demnic)

Am I missing something? In ep 4, it's mentioned that the bugs were attracted to light, but then Yord acts brand new about it in ep 5 when Osha tells to turn his lightsaber off because the insects were attracted to light. He was there in ep 4 when the bug attacked.

Tessa Gratton has been doing fantastic work on High Republic lately so I am incredibly hyped for this!

I love both these shows lol. Couldn't help but notice that none of the panelists even looks like they enjoy... anything 😂

Definitely think The Acolyte question was product placement from Disney, as they sometimes do on this show for their other shows and movies, since the topic has become so hot over the past month

I totally think that series should get a second season. But not because S1 was a masterpiece (it really was not), but more so that this series can have the possibility to grow and become better.

I'm not going to lie, but I was disappointed with many things about S1- the writing, acting/directing, filming sets... the potential of these characters (Osha, Qimir, Plageuis, Vernestra) is too big, but I never got the impression from S1 that the writers understood this or successful put into their writing.

It definitely think it didn't deserve the immense hate it got, but I still hope the writers will not turn an blind eye to valid criticism because of that.

But I really hope that The Acolyte gets a chance to be renewed.

Krista Carter is an author and novelist. And she seems to have a good eye in her critics of the series through a couple of videos…

https://youtu.be/RFV3QCe5x-8?si=8_W5Z84w9L2_mAz7